John Ireland
https://youtu.be/KYnLeXoPzG8
This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.
>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen
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This John Ireland guy looks like that dude who wrote a song about Ireland, called Luck of the Irish, they must be siblings or something
now playing
start of Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_8XbCMGWeE&list=OLAK5uy_m3OY9tb9eBtE7YCHOs7aghWrq9ZC24hF0&index=2
start of Brahms: Symphony No. 2 in D Major, Op. 73
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZJniJWTgM&list=OLAK5uy_m3OY9tb9eBtE7YCHOs7aghWrq9ZC24hF0&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m3OY9tb9eBtE7YCHOs7aghWrq9ZC24hF0
Jed Distler on classicstoday has this cycle at a 10/10 rating, so should be good.
https://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-15524
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I have no clue why I have been sitting on Walter for so long,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYSLJw3wSIc
Gotta check out his Mahler 9 when I get around to it, I believe he conducted the premiere did he not?
>>127338829>Gotta check out his Mahler 9 when I get around to it, I believe he conducted the premiere did he not?>The first stereo recording of the Ninth was made in 1961. The conductor was the man who had given the first performance in 1912 a year after Mahler's death and who had also been responsible for that first "live" recording in Vienna in 1938: his friend and disciple Bruno Walter. In his Indian Summer in California, Walter recorded the Ninth with the orchestra of Californian players assembled by Columbia and this is the version most Mahlerians of my generation learned the work from. In its present remastered edition on Sony (SM2K 64452) it includes the wonderful rehearsal sequences that made up the third LP in the original three disc set and which had disappeared in all subsequent LP re-issues. Narrated by producer John McClure, this is a crucial document in the recorded history of Mahler's music and should not be missed. The same can also be said of the symphony recording for it's the same grand tradition represented by Horenstein's though, of course, much better recorded.https://www.musicweb-international.com/Mahler/mahler9.htm
Hewitt's 2008 WTC just clicked :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRCWZO2syyA&list=OLAK5uy_mV2fKy2RwJhFxR0AoPf50U7lmDs6T78ug&index=65
Imagine being a classical music listener pre-2000.
>no wikipedia, reddit or 4chan to actually know what anything is to listen to
>no spotify or youtube to actually listen to that thing you didn't know about before wikipedia was a thing
>>127338870Yep. For recordings, you'd have to read reviews in magazines and the newspaper, and perhaps trust the word of the employee at whatever record store you shop at, and the selection would be limited to whatever they had -- though I suppose people were more willing to visit multiple shops and browse to find new and select desired recordings. This is how a lot of older recordings we now consider certified influential and high quality classics really gained their stature. Granted, a good amount of time, there was a correlation between supply, demand, and quality -- the shops aren't looking to carry shit recordings of Beethoven and Mahler, y'know? So they're gonna stock Karajan, Szell, Bernstein, Wand, Klemperer, the big names because they'll sell, so that was a good filter of quality. But sometimes whatever was being marketed wasn't so great and sometimes you could find obscurer gems.
And then of course there's the importance of the radio. Surely one of the dominant ways people discovered new pieces and recordings. So many community reviews on Amazon begin with some variation of "I first heard this piece/recording on the radio back in the 80s..."
If you didn't live in or near a major city, you were probably SOL for both recordings and live performances, though of course odds are your cultural upbringing would mean you were never exposed to classical in the first place so you wouldn't care, but still, it's a loss.
Internet really changed things.
I asked my kitty her favorite pianist and she meowed,
>ARRAUW!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTEN6Srs9c
>>127338928mildred or finster?
>There you have it. All the Brahms orchestral music including the 'cinderella' works - the Serenades - in surprisingly good readings. There are some moments where Homer nods but the coincident visions of Haitink and Brahms radiate integrity and often excitement. I have perhaps underestimated Haitink alongside Walter.
>There are some moments where Homer nods
Huh? Why the Homer reference? There's no previous comparison or mention of him in the review. Is Homer supposed to be some eternal judicious arbiter of music, some kind of patron saint? Is there something about the Iliad or Odyssey and the Homeric Greek spirit within Brahms' music? You might as well write, "Shakespeare nods". Bizarre.
Anyway, making a mental note to try Haitink's Brahms symphonies next, don't know how I skipped over them considering I love both of his piano concerto sets, one with each Arrau and Ashkenazy. His set also includes the too rarely well-recorded Serenades as well as a performance of the Violin Concerto with the esteemed Szeryng and the Double Concerto with both Szeryng and Starker. Sounds great. If the performances of the symphonies end up being good, it surely is an essential set to own with all it includes.
>>127339021https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/even-homer-sometimes-nods
anyone else love performances string arrangements of Bach's Goldberg Variations? Finally getting around to listening to this one performed by the New European Strings Chamber Orchestra, seems very popular and acclaimed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzuaAmQc1pk&list=OLAK5uy_ne1_G88zLw71Uv-4M7j-lfochWJpJL9uU&index=1
gorgeous
>>127339036Well I'll be. Fuck. Thank you. My bad -- even Homer sometimes nods, after all :p
>>127338928I asked my labrador and he said "Wu."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYaWND9n9h0
>>127338870In some ways it's better now, but in some ways it's worse. You don't have to go out, you don't have to go to concerts and meet likeminded people to discuss music (among other things) in person. If you're slightly shy and autistic, it's encouraged. Furthermore, with all the streaming and whatnot, it's easier to catch pop disease. I'd prefer to live pre 2000 (although I was born after).
>>127339068>labradorIs this his favorite composer? Hugo WOOF
![71MvErvBJSL._SL1400_[1]](/thumb/mu/1750373268244983.jpg)
now playing, gonna link a random handful of the pieces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBe_LKngwys&list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaJLSlUYbxI&list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qypYyZLVKIs&list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGGVJcsLi98&list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8&index=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iktFHtFHrC0&list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mVXWXvQVF6TDFcLV1dRR4z5irWzTPBPj8
>Pianist Daniil Trifonov, whose playing the New York Times called "simply electrifying," plays Franz Liszt's complete concert etudes on his new two-disc album, Transcendental, released by Deutsche Grammophon. Trifonov recorded his visionary interpretations within the space of five days, a feat in keeping with the tireless energy and superhuman spirit of Liszt himself. In addition to the Transcendental Etudes, the recital includes the Paganini Etudes and five Concert Etudes.
>Daniil Trifonov proves himself an heir to Liszt --Washington Post
Any list of the greatest classical recordings of the 21st century so far has to include this one. Well worth listening to.
>>127339083He said that he finds Wolf's music "excessively sentimental and overlaid with late-romantic clichés". fucking idiot.
>>127339192See, that's why I stick to cats.
>>127339068Schoenberg's solo piano music is so comfy. I wish there was more SVS solo piano music in general, especially more Berg piano sonatas.
>>127339095Is his playing actually good or is it just human machine virtuoso slop?
Asking again from last thread if any anon knows the name of the piece in this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N4I9qEuZ3vY&pp=ygUeY29tbyBlcmEgZ29zdG9zbyBvIG1ldSBmcmFuY2Vz
>>127339432There's a lot of color, emotional depth, and sensitivity in his playing, yeah. Of course his playing isn't of the same anti-virtuosic style as Arrau's classic set of the Transcendental Etudes, but if you love Liszt, you'll love it.
>>127339384Imagine getting filtered by 12-tone music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYhQswP6hhY&t=480
Richard Ackerman is such a retard but that is to be expected from Abrahamic cucks.
>>127339445don't know. don't care. fuck off.
>>127339484o_o
Just smile and politely nod until they leave, kids...
>>127339445Did you try asking on /r/classicalmusic? They're usually better at this kind of thing.
>>127339491Quit being such a boorish malcontent, damn.
>>127339445I asked once, asking again, did you try Shazam and similar tools (google music recognition etc.)
>>127339461Okay thanks for the review. I'll check them out.
>>127339491>>127339503>>127339521/classical/ doesn't recognize a horn concerto by mozart lmfao
>>127339677Mozart is overrated.
>>127339692cope. /classical/ got exposed once more.
>>127339695even if I did recognize that piece I would still have replied with a shitpost or told you to fuck off. I have no obligation to answer the questions of any retarded tourist like you who waltzes in here.
>>127339728>even if I did recognize that pieceexcept that you wouldn't because you're a poser.
>>127339677I don't listen to all the miscellaneous Mozart concertos they all sound too happy and/or annoying. Piano and violin concertos is all the Mozart concertos I care about.
If you want to play games,gimme some Chopin and I'll pin it down in seconds.
>>127339799i didn't post the video. if you say you care about mozart's violin and piano concertos, you should have recognized mozart's basic style from the music in the video. the fact that at least three people (apparently the video was posted before) did not even recognize mozart at all tells me all i need to know about this general.
>>127339866>all Mozart sounds the same.
>>127339875most composers have a recognizable basic style. if you listen long enough you wil be able to pick out their works. if you listen to, say 30 bach cantatas out of his 200, you will immediately recognize any other of his cantatas as written by him, even though you're hearing it for the first time.
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>>127338928https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA_3M93v6Ok
>>127339677I am the original poster of that video and I ask for the answer to which concerto it is. I’m not trying to troll. I just wanna know
A stodgy, autismal, over-conservative music professor and fugue-fetishist was teaching a class on Johann Sebastian Bach, known lardass.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Baroque era and accept that it was the most productive period in the history of Western art music, even more than Viennese Classicism!”
At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.
”Professor, do you recognize this piece?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite Lutheranly as he leafed through the notebook. "Why, there's nothing in here but blank manuscript paper, you stupid pedophile. Is it 4'33"?"
"No. It's an opera. If J.S. Bach, as you say, is categorically the greatest composer of all time... then he should have written one, and it should be in this book."
The professor was visibly shaken and dropped his chalk and 80-disc Glenn Gould boxed set. He stormed out of the room crying Bach fanboy crocodile tears, the same tears all autismal fanboys cry when someone else's favorite composer is different from theirs. There is no doubt at all that our professor, an anonymous craven coward who balked at accepting responsibility for his 4chan posts by using a tripcode on /mu/, wished he had taken the time to appreciate music beneath its surface aesthetics and understand the incalculable grace and poise of the great Classical masterpieces and deep intellectual current which runs beneath their simple veneer. In the final moments before his suicide, he wished so much for a requiem mass to be sung at his funeral, but alas! The lazy Bach had neglected to write any of those, either!
>>127339866Apparently not.
>>127340286The students applauded and all finally "got" Mozart that day and the patricians among them split into groups to form chamber ensembles. A firetruck roared past outside and the plebeians in the class, mistaking it for their favorite Tchaikovsky pieces, rushed out into the street to listen and were flattened. A bird named Franz Schubert flew into the room but the meme didn't catch on and it left before anyone noticed. The Heiligenstadt Testament was read aloud several times and the Great Patrician himself showed up to congratulate everyone on their good taste.
I'm new to classical and have unconsciously developed a policy of avoiding all recordings with ugly/corny professional portraits as covers. Is this a good policy? Will it filter bad recordings at a higher rate than average, filter too many essential recordings, etc.?
>>127340345That's idiotic. Album covers are totally irrelevant. Many great albums have professional portraits, many mediocre albums have it as well.
https://youtu.be/e3RbWSfhlp4?t=247
Why is Shazam so fucking bad at identifying classical music? This is nearly 3 minutes of music of Shostakovich's "The Golden Age", but this shitheap won't tell me what movement it is. I've fast-forwarded through the ballet suite and found nothing that sounds like this, can anybody here identify it? The entire ballet's 2 hours.
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>>127340345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGJFWVUx2xg&list=OLAK5uy_kU5zOXM-griFECDLHdJPQ5HLUjsHxniAs&index=6
no
>>127340345those are obviously the best.
>>127340368I am well aware that some great recordings will be missed. That is not an issue per se. I can't listen every great recording anyway. If the proportion of bad/good recordings with these covers is equal to or greater than overall, then it's fine.
>>127340378>>127340412These are actually funny and endearing though. I mean cover like this
>>127340345most recordings have multiple alternate album covers if you check discogs.
>>127340286One of my favorite copypastas. I'd help construct a fresh /classical/ version but there aren't enough people here to appreciate it so it's not worth.
>>127340426Just four musicians having a good, comfy time, don't hate.
thoughts on Medtner's lieder?
https://youtu.be/tOozn5IELAE?si=eZN8MXcTFb4cF69l
>>127340345yes that is a great policy
>>127340426That's a good ensemble
>It was Liszt who found the Ballade pour piano seul (1879) ‘too difficult’, referring to the version for solo piano before its later transformation in a more popular and lucid version for piano and orchestra. Presumably he meant that the writing was intricate without being virtuosic, that the material was too fragile and exquisite for public consumption. Even Liszt, a dazzlingly perceptive and generous critic, must have been baffled by the presence of so many difficulties in a piece unlikely to win prolonged plaudits. Meanwhile Debussy’s dismissal of the Ballade as ‘about as erotic as a woman’s loose shoulder-strap’ says more about his own insecurity than about one of Fauré’s most charming pieces: a reminder of halcyon, half-remembered summer days and bird-haunted forests.
H
now playing
start of Dvorak: Cello Concerto in B Minor, Op. 104, B. 191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1JBZKOe36E&list=OLAK5uy_mFewFRPWH4F3UBXvd5q5TZyaivp1u471M&index=2
Dvorak: From the Bohemian Forest, Op. 68, B. 182: No. 5, Silent Woods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHUYQMAnLo0&list=OLAK5uy_mFewFRPWH4F3UBXvd5q5TZyaivp1u471M&index=5
Dvorak: Rondo in G Minor, Op. 94, B. 181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4FZBbKoB-c&list=OLAK5uy_mFewFRPWH4F3UBXvd5q5TZyaivp1u471M&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFewFRPWH4F3UBXvd5q5TZyaivp1u471M
>>127341242>LisztThe only composer that can make the player feel like they're having a stroke from trying to read the piece.
...why didn't anyone tell me Wand has the best Beethoven 6, what the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBvvVbHIoBs
i kneel
>>127341386I'm sure Scriabin and Sorabji frequently have the same effect
>>127341408annd don't anyone give me that "too slow" crap, it's a Pastoral, it, the first movement especially, is supposed to be like that
>>127341408>why didn't anyone tell me Wand has the best Beethoven 6Because Monteux, Walter and Scherchen exist.
>>127341457anything recorded since the assassination of Duke Ferdinand?
>>127341472All those are in perfectly fine stereo sound.
>>127341484I kid, I kid
Walter's Beethoven 9 used to be my go-to for a longtime. I'll give his 6 a listen tomorrow.
>>127341443>SorabjiI consider him the mumble rap of the classical world. You can call it music, but it is mostly unintelligible.
Let's say my favorite pieces are:
Schumann - Fantasy op.17
Chopin - Ballade no.4
Fauré - Ballade
Scriabin - Fantasy in B minor
Debussy - Suite bergamasque
What kind of person do you imagine?
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Once again, Bach and Before, Ives and After. If you're listening to Mozart, Haydn, or Mahler you need to reconsider your life choices. To be based and Platopilled, you should immerse yourself in the gothic music of Perotin, Leonin, and Machaut, the Franco-flemish school of Josquin, the French Baroque music of Louis XIV and end it with Bach.
>>127341797Favorite composers post-Ives?
Late Beethoven and after
Parsifal and before
If your listening outside this timeframe exceeds 10% you are a lowbrow with lesser musical taste.
bach n after, b4 n not including ives
Shostakovich's 15th Symphony (1971) was the end point of classical.
Also kinda crazy that work came out only three years before The Godfather, you don't normally think of Shostakovich as contemporary to the 70s (he died in '75).
>>127341864whoops, one year before The Godfather, my mistake. Even more crazy then! There could have been a scene with the mafioso characters listening to Shostakovich's newest symphony and complaining about modern classical.
>>127341801Not a whole lot, Post WW2 judaism did a lot of damage to the psychology of the west, but ironically i have a lot of Jewish composers here on my list.
Messiaen
Ligeti
Reich
Part
Luther Adams
Feldman
Gleijo
Whitacre
Yoshimatsu
Murail
Grisey
Riley
Cage(His tonal piano pieces, and prepared piano pieces)
>>127341928What a bunch of garbage. Not surprised.
>>127341945Yep, but its garbage I like, the whole 20th century is trash, but what I posted in better than Stockhausen, Boulez, Gershwin, or any of the Jewish songwriters of the American songbook
>>127341972>the whole 20th century is trash,20th century is single best century after 19th. And it's just the first half we're talking about.
>>127341988Just the first half, Scriabin, Stravinsky Bartok, Debussy, Ravel and Ives are king, but Webern, Mahler, Prokofiev, and Shostakovich make me vomit. The period from 1880-1913 is the best single period since louis XIV reign up the 1750's
>>127342033Only Ives and Webern are trash. Mahler and Prokofiev are top tier along with Scriabin and Bartok, among other great 20th century composers, and there are quite a few.
>>127342056>Ives is trashpleb take, maybe the modernist piano stuff is garbage
>Mahler and Prokfiev are top tierI can't wrap my head around the neurotic Romanticism/modernism these two, my ears hurt after hearing Prokofiev sonatas and Mahler symphonies
does anyone have this recording of Wand's performance of Bruckner 8 & 9 in Lübeck from 1988 they can upload and share? Wand has so many versions of these two symphonies it's difficult to find the correct one for download and near-impossible for streaming. please and thank you
Horowitz knows what's up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxQ4ZH5vCXw
I wish he recorded Rach 2 :(
>>127342108You like Ives but not his Concord Sonata? peculiar
>>127342116there's also this release of the standalone 8th that would be very helpful and appreciated as well
>who's your favorite
>this. no, this and this
>don't be afraid, say Rachmaninov
>>127341628I understand why you'd say so but I think there's a lot to like in his music, overly long as his pieces are.
>>127341797immediately disregarded once I read "based and Xpilled"
no one over 40 talks like this (and if you were around back in 2003 you're at least 40)
Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 12 is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MRADP5VsU0
>>127341864>was the end point of classicalthat last movement sounds like the end point of everything.
>>127342323>that last movement sounds like the end point of everything.tru, but I more attribute that to his String Quartet No. 15 (and 14), that's what they'll be playing once the singularity dissolves humanity
>>127342338that too. but with sq 15 everything is already over. he stopped fighting.
i'mma try and spend the next couple days listening only to female pianists
>>127342659not too much of a challenge, is it?
>>127342659>>127342714I'd rather kill myself.
i'mma try and spend the next couple days listening only to chinese pianists
>>127338870Imagine not being able to listen to 30 different recordings of the same Mahler piece. it would not be a world worth living in
>>127341928Most of these guys aren't Jewish da fuk
>>127343015most people in Israel aren't jewish
>>127341846obvious but i kek'd
>>127343026Irrelevant and factually wrong
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>I suppose the school that I've done the least is the Russian school. When I was younger I actually played Rachmaninoff's Corelli Variations and his second concerto but I'm more interested in music that somehow lifts me... moves me... music that has a great deal of color and imagination.
Hello it's me I shall be shilling Hindemith for the next few weeks as I do every time I really get into a composer for the first time; enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHo8igW6qb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iXUeUDEWvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAAmPNV_4B4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYUZccKkemo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRLf-0QWcXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIDixKWk5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttFjGOfqYgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA8BuCVBOW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_EfiES8_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGlaCmMmTEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Yx8DCbH-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgLkNM1NUkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDtEZp26AIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2XkjhWT90Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-bEs_6Y7AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkX9huvKw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6wK7BV0su4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpgYJhpcL8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7c8SFS9Lxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEDpcdx5ppk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS--K3dPHzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9itohCcBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vxqnnEwiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZP7raZ9cNw
I've grown quite fond of the viola d'amore. I wish it had caught on after Hindemith brought it back.
>>127341988>20th century is best centuryEdited, fixed, and corrected for you
>>127344074>concerto for birdslol what is this Oiseaux Exotiques
>>127344074>RautavaaraGet well soon
>>127344098Conductor: Leif Segerstam
Orchestra: Helsinki Philharmonic
Soloist: Coco the Budgie
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Wagner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nla6Hne39U4&list=OLAK5uy_lsj5wNP1bdpkmt-ZYIwRTNuT5Jwdzxk2E&index=5
>>127344389>Coco the Budgierip in power the greatest singer of his generation
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Bruckner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-rBIgNXWk8&list=OLAK5uy_l5rkkdOJNrIO550Pab506cbs1xP64OI2A&index=2
>>127344039wow he was so tiny
>>1273430153 is too much, and most of them are spiritually Jewish anyways
>>127344710oh my god how tiny is that man second form right
>>127341928>MessiaenOnly good composer on your list
>Cageoh, you're trolling, my apologies
>>127344731he's barely taller than a violin holy shit
>>127344741I wish I was, but I do enjoy dream, In a landscape and the prepared piano pieces
>>127344626>>127344710does anyone here know how tall Hindemith was? I tried searching on Google but I haven't found anything yet.
>>127340297>A firetruck roared past outside and the plebeians in the class, mistaking it for their favorite Tchaikovsky pieces, rushed out into the street to listen and were flattened.Lmao I'm stealing this
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>>127344851Well, here he is sitting next to Stravinsky who was of pretty average height. The chairs are the same, so going by shoulder height I'd say he was around 1.6? Of course they're both pretty old in this pic, which means they were all bent and shrivelled
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Thoughts?
>>127344965Not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
>>127344960>Stravinsky who was of pretty average height. He was 5'3".
>>127344991What's that in real measurement units?
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ0xT1530nIRZkq8POt9tcJGDxatJzjci
To the Stravinsky aficionados: the Moscow Philharmonic have set a goal for themselves to perform publicly every work by Stravinsky. They started 2.5 years ago and have gotten up to Les Noces in the most recent concert. Every concert (so far) has been posted on YouTube and is MC'd by a musicologist (with a specialty in Stravinsky) who speaks about the works and their history
>>127344965OST-tier touristcore pop music
>>127345002>They started 2.5 years ago and have gotten up to Les NocesExcellent time to stop.
>>127344988>>127345027>le it's popular so it's bad
>>127345084Beethoven's ninth
>>127345084>le butthurt people don't appreciate his fave tourist-trap pseudoclassical tripefuck off back to your john williams fan forum
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebRwG71Z8dI&list=OLAK5uy_l8MVY_ThaTlKcIAyzXauMppF9SizuJ568&index=10
>>127341928>a lot of jewish composersyou've got only three jews listed here. whether they're actually composers is debatable
>>127345002Very cool, thank you.
>>127345084i like the third movement, that's all i'm going to say. gorecki did better stuff than his 3rd symphony anyway.
>>127344965very good piece
>>127345232>gorecki did better stuffsuch as dying
>>127344398wagner sucks cocks in hell
>>127345250i've got an open mind. i can appreciate beauty anywhere.
>>127338829Not a huge fan of his Beethoven, but he was a top tier conductor of Brahms/Mahler/Bruckner before his heart attack. After his heart attack he lost quite a bit of energy, sadly most of his stereo recordings are after the heart attack. Still good, just slower and less vital. His Mahler 9 has one of the best tamtam crashes ever in the first movement, but I find it a bit lacking in virtuosity and flow at times. I wish he had recorded it with NYP rather than a pick up ensemble.
>>127341448We have Beethoven's intended tempo for that movement you know, we know what it's "supposed" to be like and it ain't this.
>>127345261that's so cool; you're so cool
>>127344965very good piece
>>127345275i'm just here for the (You)s
>>127345265>We have Beethoven's intended tempo for that movement you know, we know what it's "supposed" to be like and it ain't this.i'm talking platonically, ideally, not according to Beethoven
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>requests opinions
>is given opinions
>N-NOT LIKE THAT!!
many such cases
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Stanford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBG_VE3EFNw&list=OLAK5uy_m8tYChGlGAts6Zl1WfEvdvBElXfu2Ox2Y&index=3
>>127345298platonically/ideally WOULD be according to Beethoven
>>127345302>same L is used for both Luis and Livei like the personal touch, and for that, i will give it a listen
>>127345312my brother in Mazda that is some basicass graphic design decision there, and the font going down is a terrible match at that
>>127345305nope, he was merely a conduit for transcribing the music from the platonic realm of ideas, of ideal music -- but of course he's human and biased and got the tempo (and some other things) wrong, so it's up to conductors and musicians to re-interpret and do it better
>>127345322i like it because you can imagine whoever designed it was excited about the dual use L; it was designed by a human
>>127345328>everything else he did was correct but I will arbitrarily single out the tempo because I can't handle Beethoven's visionFTFY
>>127345339>it was designed by a humanTeen*
>>127345328Ooooh, you're insane. Sorry to bother you, do carry on.
>>127345328not even going to bother thinking about what you said I don't have time for weed-smoking pseudo-intellectual babble
>>127345328explain wellington's victory
>>127344965Undoubtedly the greatest classical work of the past 50 years.
>>127345392We already established Shostakovich's 15 SQ was composed exactly 50 years ago.
>>127345214They're not, more like pretentious pop music writers, But At least I can tell the difference betweem the 3 compared to the Darmadst school
>>127342284You're old(I'm old too)
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>Beethoven
>Platonic
>>127345707I don't have anything against this guy, but it's kind of surprising that someone that doesn't seem retarded could spend so much time pretending to be an intellectual and arguing for a pubescent's idea of Plato and Platonism. If you're post is implying that he believes Platonic is not a Platonic composer, then it's just more evidence for how ridiculous he is.
>>127345375Platonism is the most basic, beige, vanilla, utterly dryass serious teetotaling "system" out there. Not even stoicim is as up its own ass. Nothing at all "dude weed lmao" about it.
>>127345398>WeI don't fucking know you, slav
>>127341644Sensitive, feminine, kind, beta, emotions based, left-wing.
now playing
start of JS Bach: Goldberg Variations, BWV 988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tss2LNHP4K4&list=OLAK5uy_k6pt0hUWPnZwQa5LzUqDt_MHuz5zzDqpg&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k6pt0hUWPnZwQa5LzUqDt_MHuz5zzDqpg
>David Fray adds a landmark of the solo keyboard repertoire to his Bach discography: the Goldberg Variations. "The Goldberg Variations are a real test," he says. "They are the work of a lifetime, perhaps a work about life itself... a kind of rite of passage, a journey. Every element of human life is in them... When you play the theme again after the 30 variations, in it's original purity, it is as if you're at the end of your life, looking back over everything that has happened in the last hour-and-a-half. Few works give such a sense of eternity".
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Mussorgsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s4swv7k6Xw&list=OLAK5uy_kCalHozSdB-WrgV5tHFRRgDpeeZt0TFPY&index=17
>>127346454This is like Lang Lang's recording but actually good
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Reger - Inferno op.57
Alkan - Symphony for Solo Piano
Sessions - 2nd Symphony
Ravel - Scarbo
Penderecki - 3rd Symphony
>>127346603cringinganimegirl.png.exe
>>127346066the truly basic thing here is reading comprehension, which you fail at
>>127346454Sounds strange
Which instrument is that?
>>127346603>Sessions - 2nd Symphonythat's good?
good night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d0qn4BowPU&list=OLAK5uy_kH3wR6N4Cp6WYGaf2oKYl6UbK_IQv4OVs&index=1
>>127346966I included it in the list because the slow movement (basically 12-tone music written in Gb) has a reputation for being difficult to sight read.
Post some Bach organ music.
>>127347062Oh, I thought those were your five favorite pieces. Very eclectic selection. My mistake. Now I understand the relevance of your picture.
>can't sight read atonal counterpoint in Db?
>you will.
>>127344039Bumping for Hindemith Awareness
>>127344039Hindemith? carnival music I say.
>>127348563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3fhzZSGFlU
>>127347065Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTKo0Z-k1-E
Hildegard and before, Reich and after
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>>127348848Zarlino and after, Strauss and before.
nothing. else. matters.
who is The Beatles of classical music?
>>127348945Haydn but it's an unfair comparison because pop music is shit.
who is the most /x/ composer?
>>127345392>composed in 1976>Classical
who is the most boring composer?
>>127348979Mozart was a Mason. Bach was a devout Christian. Does they count?
>>127349039>does theysaar!
>>127349051I do the needful and delete later
>>127349039Bach was an atheist though
>>127349075may as well have been. Lutheranism is garbage.
>>127349085indeed.
Luther -> Kant -> Hegel vs Schopenhauer -> Marx vs Wagner -> Communism vs Nazism -> World War II
>done
>Joachim Raff - Symphony no. 3 "Im Walde" Op. 153 (1869)
liked this one for whichever mvt i said yesterday as i already forgot.
>Siegmund von Hausegger - Natursymphonie (1911)
>CHAUSSON: Symphony in B flat major op. 20 / Munch · Boston Symphony Orchestra
>Franck - Symphony in d minor - Chicago / Monteux
>Mahler's 3rd Symphony (Audio + Sheet Music)
some parts i really liked, forgot to stop and note them down thoughever.
>Havergal Brian - Symphony No.1 in D minor ''Gothic'' [Score]
some parts i liked, but i forgot which.
>Sir William Walton - Symphony no. 1: André Previn conducting the LSO in 1970
very bombastic, especially first and last mvts. second-to-last mvt was sad; i remember liking that one.
>Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, Op. 125, "Choral": IV. Presto - Allegro assai - Choral finale on...
>backlog
none, back to listening to threadly symphonies...
>progress
well into Judges.
God just possessed Gideon to blow a trumpet (?) because peeps wants him dead from wrecking statues of the one, true god Baal.
>2¢'s
more long symphony reccs welcome. the longer, the better.
i'm so nauseous, i feel like i'm gonna puke, how do i get rid of nausea? any Classical that will help?
best classical symphony to listen to while beating off to hentai?
>>127349223Listen to Mass in B minor you will puke instantly.
>>127349227Silence, gooner
>>127349199you missed my post recommending Gliere's long symphony 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRpEt9FvTbU
>>127349199Schmidt - 4th Symphony
Shostakovich - 11th Symphony
Taneyev - 4th Symphony
Jongen - Symphony op.81
>>127349692We know you also like to goon, anon
now playing
Rachmaninoff: Morceaux de fantaisie, Op. 3: No. 2. Prelude in C-Sharp Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdDnIy0mHsI&list=OLAK5uy_nyjNOfRJtfWP9VwwLLgz-zIllB-pd_M3E&index=2
start of Rachmaninoff: 10 Preludes, Op. 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROibNZh-3fg&list=OLAK5uy_nyjNOfRJtfWP9VwwLLgz-zIllB-pd_M3E&index=3
start of Rachmaninoff: 13 Preludes, Op. 32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTf5CJCHLII&list=OLAK5uy_nyjNOfRJtfWP9VwwLLgz-zIllB-pd_M3E&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyjNOfRJtfWP9VwwLLgz-zIllB-pd_M3E
Also gonna try out his cycle of the piano concertos with the always solid conductor Sakari Oramo.
Beethoven's Emperor concerto feels like a chore to listen to. I know all the themes already, it's just boring and emotionally void except maybe the slow movement. It doesn't have the drama, emotion and bombast of his symphonies or his sonatas. That said, the Horowitz recording is pretty gud, right?
>>127350087You don't have to enjoy every acclaimed masterpiece. Your complaints seem kind of silly, but hey, if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work for you. I'd suggest trying a couple more recordings of it first before completely dismissing it however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY4wEBbn2Bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIuQi6eGYwQ
or for a more contemporary performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5YTNkiCrw
Sample those and if you're still not feeling it, then, well, is what it is, maybe come back to it in a year or two when the mood strikes.
>That said, the Horowitz recording is pretty gud, right?Can't go wrong with Horowitz/Reiner. That said, I don't really listen to Horowitz anymore.
for the sake of your spiritual health, remember to make time for listening to at least one of Beethoven's late string quartets everyday, or at worst, every other day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAyDU_nlw7o
>>127350087i only listen to the slow movement these days, and even that only sporadically. to say that the emperor concerto has no bombast is kind of puzzling to me, bombast is basically what it's known for.
>>127350118>That said, I don't really listen to Horowitz anymore.He has some of the best Chopin though(also Rach, Scriabin etc.) Specifically the 4th ballade in which he brings out the beautiful inner voices and almost no one else does it. Not as good as Hofmann, but pretty close along with Katsaris which I recently listened to. I'm starting to like Zimerman a bit less, but I still love some bits from his recording more than anyone else. The only perfect Ballade exists in my mind currently
>>127349972https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPU3kgr6W-k
According to HofmannScores, Horowitz was the last great pianist. Initially I couldn't agree, but now I'm starting to see it
One huge benefit of physical media, especially with an LP record, is the commitment made to listening to a given recording. By this I mean the effort of taking the release out of its packaging and placing it into the music player where it now occupies the machine as a temporary but exclusive and steadfast tenant. All of this combines to reduce one's hastiness in switching to something else.
Compared to digital media and streaming, you listen to a piece for a couple minutes and the moment you go 'meh,' you can click on something else which will begin playing instantly. No commitment, no effort, no hurdle, no exclusivity.
All of which is part of the issues of attention span in today's world. I hate how often I start listening to a piece and then end up changing it before even the first movement is finished. These acts develop into habits which result in the erosion of ones mental patience and attention span.
>>127350199nobody asked for your retarded and ignorant opinion.
>>127350217>where it now occupies the machine as a temporary but exclusive and steadfast tenantwriting like this could be a reason for suicide.
>>127350199Bit of a boomer take, no? Plenty of great pianists since and performing today.
>>127350223calm down, we're here for discussion
>>127350223>>127350231It's a hard redpill to swallow, I know.
>>127350236go back to >>>/lgbt/ and swallow a dick.
>>127350225Whereby I will then occupy the morgue's body container unit as a temporary but exclusive and steadfast tenant?
>>127350244>>127350223Who are your favorite contemporary pianists?
>>127350236I did come across a book at a bookstore titled Horowitz: The Last Romantic that I flipped through and found pretty interesting and full of great anecdotes. It did a good job of outlining his artistic stature.
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Noticing subtle details is extremely hard. But not if you're autistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd7-_KikKj0
I'll add in some George Pinto for this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-1km900dvI
horowitz probably is the last "great" pianist in the sense of stature and fame. performers from the dawn of hi-fi stereo recording just have a special status and it will probably always be that way.
are these gremlins from /metal/ so miserable and envious they really spend so much time and effort shitposting here in an attempt to harass classical fans and ruin the general? it's pathetic
>>127350295>in the sense of stature and fame. Along with delicate legato phrasing, bel canto, dynamic control, voicing technique etc. And not just in pianism, but opera too. Listen carefully and compare yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5sNTERGzkg
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speaking of contemporary pianists, now playing, gonna go through Arcadi Volodos' discography
start of Schubert: Piano Sonata No. 20 in A Major, D. 959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVEfPuaKSmw&list=OLAK5uy_l6vg6fr_4LbQq2b05Y-CGO38mZmk3uWYM&index=2
Schubert: Minuet in A major, D. 334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtshvkz-gJw&list=OLAK5uy_l6vg6fr_4LbQq2b05Y-CGO38mZmk3uWYM&index=6
Schubert: Minuet in E Major, D. 335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpOtqRc2uY&list=OLAK5uy_l6vg6fr_4LbQq2b05Y-CGO38mZmk3uWYM&index=7
Schubert: Minuet in C-Sharp Minor, D. 600 with Trio in E Major, D. 610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDL5XuA6hU&list=OLAK5uy_l6vg6fr_4LbQq2b05Y-CGO38mZmk3uWYM&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6vg6fr_4LbQq2b05Y-CGO38mZmk3uWYM
In fact, given my current solo piano music obsession phase, I should do this more often: instead of looking for recordings of specific pieces, going through the discography of great pianists instead and listening to whatever they've got. It's fun and a great way to hear familiar music in refreshing ways. Plus it's enjoyable to hear and become cognizant of a pianist's overall style and vision.
>>127350322>Along with delicate legato phrasing, bel canto, dynamic control, voicing technique etcyou forgot wrong notes.
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>>127350340There aren't many, if any at all in this particular recording
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QXz8-rQ2hE
let's start the day and enjoy the morning with Shostakovich's 24 Preludes and Fugues, Op. 87 performed by Melnikov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Oyr-ZpyFA&list=OLAK5uy_mfu3MVlN6p9WIK5eigJDDHOPp6DKE5GUY&index=32
>>127350322What are we listening for here?
>>127350296It wouldn't surprise me. Metal-tards are the most insufferable "people" to ever exist.
>>127350372Conducting, singing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EiAm-iEa0Q
>>127350322>>127350372Oh nevermind, I get it. I thought you were posting something involving Horowitz and pasted the wrong link lol.
>>127350354Nice, but surely there have been many recordings since which measure up? I just can't believe these older greats really did something that's inimitable and beyond the grasps of the generations since, even just contemporary pianists, especially because they have access to all of these classic recordings from which to learn and imitate and eventually overcome and surpass.
>>127349227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-yl4aI6xzU
>>127350399>Nice, but surely there have been many recordings since which measure up?Maybe, I just haven't listend to any that measure up.
>I just can't believe these older greats really did something that's inimitable and beyond the grasps of the generations sinceI couldn't believe either, and I'm not totally dismissing new recordings either, but I'm starting to see the differences. They don't (or can't) imitate, nor overcome and surpass older pianists, conductors, violinists etc. It doesn't matter why, how whatever, it's what I hear, and maybe you can hear it too. Or maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmyGfNs_RJI
>>127350296>Wayward Sisters…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FDeSalmqo
Mozart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKge6YMqfxE
What's your personal favorite non-piano concerto by him?
Bachish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkqBlwPBUlU
>>127350531sinfonia concertante.
>>127350531I didn’t mean to summon you O_o
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>>127350531the horny concertos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s2ffbfFknw&list=OLAK5uy_mFtuXMTYJvTRqonDrjYAMs2fWLLO8MTR8&index=2
>>127350531That one. I need to revisit the violin concertos tho
Whats your age, /classical/?
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71Y86Gyr
>>127350338One of the best D.959's I've ever heard. Highly recommended. Highly indulgent style though, so if you hate that kind of thing, maybe stay away, but I think it works well with Schubert's piano sonatas -- helps countervail the repetitiveness of the themes and spices up the long, symphonic structures with ornamentation.
>>127350596Kinda interesting question
>>127350596no option for my age.
>>127350623Wtf is your age?
now playing
start of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 7 in C Major, Op. 60, "Leningrad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyE-OYvM0qc&list=OLAK5uy_mz21tIDsT6sdSq2v4E-hIvls8FndAq3iA&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mz21tIDsT6sdSq2v4E-hIvls8FndAq3iA
>"Certain moments in history gave composers the possibility of saying something deeply personal", says LSO Principal Guest Conductor Gianandrea Noseda. "And Shostakovich speaks equally to us today". As Noseda and the LSO continue their journey through Shostakovich's symphonies, which span the composer's lifetime, they take on one of his biggest creations, the Seventh. Written during the siege of Leningrad in World War II, it is shattering in scale and impact. For Noseda, "you can hear the march of the soldiers, the obsessive repetition, a loop you cannot escape," in the relentless, pounding rhythms, the struggle towards a fragile victory.
Goddamn do I love this symphony
>>127350231Not really. Most pianists today suck
>>127350399Most modern pianists have poor discographical knowledge and the techniques utilized in the golden age have fallen to the wayside. It's no different from how orchestral standards and techniques have changed vastly over the past 100 years
>>127350705>It's no different from how orchestral standards and techniques have changed vastly over the past 100 yearsYou mean how every professional orchestra is good?
>>127350694>>127350705Based and GoldenAgePilled
>>127350705It's the same in every performing art. Theatre and dance have always declined in the exact same way. Great Shakespearian acting no longer exists but every still goes around acting like this isn't true.
>>127350815Everything in and outside art has declined to some degree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9k93ZBsm8&list=OLAK5uy_llRamLhe4evlr5Nxe9Gx_PxTBz4ApTe8Q&index=5
Downloaded two gigantic albums of Alfred Cortot (Chopin and Schumann). Gonna listen to it all for the next few days, he is the GOAT.
Starting with his Schumann concerti (1927), already loving the 1st movement, unsurprisingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr3MKFcJRcE&list=OLAK5uy_nJ_wL6Fdkx7zBz8gnJcrADf3PhJSbUZtA&index=161
>>127350898sisterposter used to have a vendetta against this Reference Recording guy. Probably an inter-Asian feud. anyway, enjoy
>>127350898Oh, and the sound quality on that is better than I thought it'd be, not bad.
>>127351022>inter-Asian feudhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=giE0dyLD1jc
He doesn't look very Asiatic to me...
>>127350710Sure, but they all sound the same. You used to have orchestras had an incredibly unique sound profile to them. The techniques have homogenized to better suit the wide discographical output that artists feel the need to have. You're not just expected to perform a few composers well, you have to play everyone well. And they do. But they do so in a way that is remarkably similar to their contemporaries. Unfortunately this means that when compared to older pianists that had more a more personal and nuanced view of a piece, they tend to be quite a bit more boring.
Rachmaninoff's 3rd concerto was dedicated to Hofmann, and he never learned the piece. It was not an insult to Rachmaninoff, but rather a necessary concession that Hofmann had to make to keep up his standard of performance. He did not feel as if he could apply his individuality to so many notes without sacrificing something in his existing repertoire. Lhevinne studied and practiced Chopin's Op. 25/6 for a decade before performing it in public, and you can instantly hear how distinguished and unique it is from every other performance out there. There was a patience with performance of pieces back in those days, something that doesn't exist anymore. Bruno Walter has a famous interview where he complains how young conductors are too eager to play the classics so early, and that you need a decade or two of conducting experience to pull off something like Mozart's G minor symphony.
>>127351022His remasters are pretty awful, so Sisterposter wasn't wrong.
>>127351022>against this Reference Recording guyWho? Which guy?
>>127351027Now listening to his Saint-Saëns No.4, Cortot is legendary.
>>127351049Oh weird, maybe there was another guy too.
>>127351123The person doing the remasters. But I'd say better any remaster than none at all. I'm only peeved when his remasters replace those which are perfectly fine (eg Milstein's Bach on some streaming services).
https://youtu.be/LO9TRc2_sM0
Great video on Cortot
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it's not mozart or beethoven or brahms or bruckner or schumann or mendelssohn i enjoy listening to -- it's karajan
My Schumannmania dates back a long way-- even before I ever heard a single note I knew I would love him, thanks to his bio, with its forbidden love, marital passion, duelling with the Philistines, and of course the inevitable descent into madness. But Schumann was an irrepressible, if agitated, soul, as is borne out by the idiosyncratic fervor of his four symphonies. The "Spring"s opening movement is one of those endlessly exhilarating experiences in art that never fails to give the spirit a kick-- without being reductively a piece of "program music," it manages to suggest the fructifying power of incipient spring-- even to tickle the skin with the physiological symptoms of "spring fever." And this is a quality spread throughout Schumann's orchestral canon, from which the immortal "Manfred Overture" and the rich "Genoveva" are also included on these discs. All are glorious, but it would be a pity not to single out the extraordinary "Adagio espressivo" of the 2nd Symphony, a movement which rivals even Mahler at his most transcendentally expressive-- and Schumann is not a child of the Wagnerian era. Nor can I fail to cite the shuddering grandeur of the fourth movement of the "Rheinish" Symphony, an interlude of intense pathos in that galloping, impish, lighthearted, always loveable work. Schumann is still a controversial composer, but perhaps I love him for all the reasons Nietzsche did not (with all respect to the sage!). His music partakes of a very youthful, tender Romanticism, imploring and transparent, and he thrives on stirring dreaminess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U68c0G12bb8
>>127351190Fuck Nietzsche
>>127349034Mozart, but he is simultaneously the most exciting composer ever
>>127351190Schumann is somehow more of an incel composer than Brahms is.
Holy crap guys look what I found in the flesh
huh, Abbey Simon has recorded quite a bit of Chopin, didn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELR4oO_BK8Q&list=OLAK5uy_k-HTZfyTRuzrHCiLZ9dFHPZ76miwlarv0&index=8
>>127351701/classical/ hand reveal
>>127349034Bruckner (this is a good thing)
you guys don't know shit about dick
yeah, this Haitink Vaughan Williams cycle is flawed. such a shame. I standby that it has a great London Symphony though.
also does anyone actually like Vaughan Williams' 7th symphony?
gonna go through this set of Mozart's Piano Concertos. It contains all of them from 5 and up, sans 10 and 16
Normally I just skip up to 19, but fug it, I'll start from the beginning on this one. If anyone wants to join, well, here we go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSKVPa1WDxQ&list=OLAK5uy_neIuG-bsV3WQ4bcauiD_QIXEVM8SXK1mA&index=1
>>127348979Peter Warlock he was a real wizard
>>127353722yeah it's one of his symphonies I go back to the most, at least in Previn's recording. not the deepest symphony but it's as good as any attempt by orchestral composers to evoke the indifference terror of nature, especially in the 'Landscape' movement.
>>127353939Does Previn's have the narrative interludes?
>>127353939*indifferent terror
>>127353958yes, but I don't like them so I made a playlist that excludes them
>>127353779Mozart: I hate the composer, like I hate hell, all Uchidas and thee
>>127353722>does anyone actually like Vaughan Williams' 7th symphony?Does anyone actually like good music?
>>127354072I heard the spoken word interlude one time and have skipped the symphony altogether ever since.
>>127354107goddamn it, I was almost finished with my Vaughan Williams edition. gg, well played, Roussel is a fine choice
>>127354092yeah, they put me off too. just skip them.
>>127351022Sister-poster wishes he was Asian…
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