Alot of us are feeling this board has gone to absolute shit. We can all agree on a lot of the common problems that have plagued this board but most of us are falling into apathy and nihilism.

>Zoomers or "Zoomer Culture" depending on whether you are a Zoomer or not

>K-Pop general and Mod corruption

>Shilling and astroturfing

>Poptimism and the cultural displacement of rock music and traditional music criticism

>Low effort posting

>Irony poisoning

>Lack of new OC

>A lack of concentrated effort for curation and putting anons onto music.

I have a couple of ideas into we can improve the board so I'm wondering what you all think.

>A group commitment to shame or cease any partaking in "Zoomer culture" and the acknowledgement of as a destructive mistake

>More scene generals like the Australian thread to help kick starts localized scenes that haven't been formed elsewhere.

>Regular sharethreads

>The relentless bullying of shills and related music like Haunted Mound, the "2021 underground", Digighouls, Drizzybots, Sabrina The Teenage DJ along with the pop whores like Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter

>An effort to actually get inside the mod team and wead out corruption.

>the revival of board generals and bringing old obscurities like Memphis Tapes, rare emo singles and forgotten Soundcloud stuff back into the board consciousness. /core/ and /shugazi/ are up. good to see

>An effort to properly canonize Rock albums released in the 21st century

>Building foundations to eventually allow Zalphas or Gen Alpha to step in and drive board culture and what they decide to do with Zoomers.

>Efforts to facilitate high quality discussion

>An acknowledgement in how the last 8 years of intergeneration conflict come about and has still continued without holding back any bullshit. To maturely take losses where necessary on both ends.

I am a Zoomer to be transparent with all of you. Not pulling bullshit. I have sinned on this board many times.

Any ideas?

>>127346667 (OP)

Hang it up unc, 2010 was 15 years ago

>>127346667 (OP)
>on both ends.
on three ends. Gen Alpha have been getting brutalized on TikTok, Instagram and Youtube. They've got every right to get pissed.

If chasing us off the board is still an option then just fucking do it idk.

>>127346688
I was 6 for most of 2010

>>127346667 (OP)
then start banning taylor swift threads then

>>127346715
I don't have mod powers

>>127346715
Could try reporting them if they can be caught as off topic spam

The real cancer of nu-/mu/ is hot take ragebait threads. Serious musical discussion sinks to page 10 while shit like the "Godsmack is better than Alice In Chains" thread last night got loads of replies. It mirrors the cancer that has plagued professional musical criticism in the past 10 years. Critics say dumb shit to get attention. People on Twitter say dumb shit to get attention. People import this retarded outside culture to /mu/ to get attention too and it fucking works.

I will start doing more album appreciation threads.

>>127346739
it's a retarded attention economy. It's widespread on other boards as well. Clickbait is widespread because we are all acting like ruthless 3rd world capitalists. Instagram and Tiktok are some of the worst for this shit were engagement like viewing and commenting gives it more prominence.

>>127346750
good to hear

>>127346722
what´s her face has been doing the worst forced manufactured culture of personality shit since beyonce. on this board, wikipedia, every fucking social media. and dont give me indian bot farm that shitty spotify statistic.
call me a schizo, but i believe these "popstars" are spamming here themselves.

>>127346667 (OP)
I made the Australian thread, glad you liked it. I went out to a gig last night and then slept all day and it no one bumped it so it got archived. Should I make another? I had tons more stuff from that era to post and tons more from before and after I could post too

>>127346784
yeah it's uncanny as fuck. I refuse to believe it would just be her but It wouldn't surprise me if she had a hand in it.

>>127346804
yeah no problem. From Australia as well and posted Iron Sheiks in there. Just saying it could be a blueprint for other scenes.

>>127346804
>Should I make another?
go ahead

>>127346837
Ok maybe I'll make another one or two and see how they go. You could post more of your uncles bands. What do you think about combining with NZ?

>>127346881
It wasn't my uncle but yeah combining with NZ sounds like a great idea. He wasn't in Iron Sheiks but in others.

>>127346931
Ok I made a thread:

>>127347120
>>127347120
>>127347120

Decided against nz cause I couldn't be bothered specifying aus or nz next to every post but I'll drop some kiwi tunes in there anyway time to time if this works out

>>127347181
No problem. Will post some shit soonish

>>127347203
Cheers cobber

kporn genocide now

>>127346688
DONT BE DEMORALIZED! /MU/ WILL RISE AGAIN!

>>127346667 (OP)
/mu/ has had most of those problems even when it was "good" (read: alive).

>>127346667 (OP)
HEIL MANGUM

>>127346667 (OP)

/mu/ has been one of the worst boards on 4chan for as long as I can remember. Wtf are you talking about?

>>127346667 (OP)
have you all noticed how k-pop threads never talk about the music?

>>127346804
I am American and went on a two week surf trip to Australia before COVID. Driving up to Kirra I was impressed with the Aussie indie rock bands on the radio. Bands were pushing themselves trying new things. Some was crap but most was good.

>>127347633
Based surfer. If you remember any of the bands share them in the thread >>127347120

>>127347553
Yep

>>127347510
It's the difference between shit and lung cancer induced shit

>>127346667 (OP)
>OP image is full of (c)rap
>OP complains about the state of /mu/
Eat shit and die motherfucker.

>>127348185
Hip Hop has always been on this board. Fucking nigger

>>127348229
The secret is to not engage with obvious bait, even if it makes you seethe.

Has anyone noticed that either the weekends or late at night is when the most reasonable people and actual decent discussion comes out? Almlst as if its like reddit where a bunch of retard normies working work at home or office jobs fucking around here because theyre bored more than discussing anything

>>127346667 (OP)
The whole internet is fucked, not just mu. Good luck fixing anything, although well done for trying.

>>127350389
Yes, that's the time I get baked and start posting threads that everyone seems to hate.

you've gotta define "zoomer culture". A lot of users are going to be zoomers because we're in the prime demographic of people using imageboards. Yes, this is still the case even when imageboards have fallen out of fashion. Do you just mean slang? then yeah, sure. But do you mean "zoomer culture" as in "music that zoomers make"? Like it or not gen z is capable of making good music and it will keep getting discussed.

>>127351950
I'm talking about the slang, post irony, the mocking and anything spilling over from Tiktok, Reddit or Instagram, The AAVE talk and the memes.

>>127346804
Thread got slid overnight. New thread

>>127353055
>>127353055
>>127353055

>>127354217
You don’t have to keep making the same thread over and over. It got slid because its ran its life. You aren’t helping

>>127352763
The mocking is part of the site’s DNA, you aren’t going to be able to get rid of people being contrarian assholes for fun.

>>127346667 (OP)
>make /mu/ great again
just produce OC you dumb faggot make music pick up an instrument and play and learn to sing. write lyrics.

Original Contant is the only thing that can set /mu/ apart.

>>127354242
I didn't make the new thread. But if there's little or no interest in australian music on /mu/ outside of australian posters then of course the threads will get slid by kpop and hayley williams while we're sleeping

>>127354331
Australia sucks. We don’t need a constant Australia underground thread. We don’t even have a constant American underground thread. And the bbl beatnik namefag fucking sucks

>>127354348
Gonna cry? Gonna piss your pants? Maybe? Maybe shit and cum?

>>127346667 (OP)
100% need to ban all of the K pop (and normal pop) fags to whatever containment board they're normally on. I think /s/.

>>127346667 (OP)
There is little we can do when mods are deliberately allowing shit threads and spamming, this is the case for almost every single board

>>127354498
This. One of the jannies here deliberately makes the board worse and allows their friends to troll and spam and shill while banning others that they don’t like personally. The other jannies only watch over their K-pop/metal fiefdoms while ignoring the rest of the board, and those are the better jannies we have

>>127346667 (OP)
What do you make of this?
>>127328858

>>127354707
Another obsessed schizo that should be permabanned, like the Emily Armstrong/linking park fag and the Hayley Williams pedophile and the MCRtranny and the Addison spammer

>>127354756
At least she's an adult.

>>127354856
All those people that get spammed are adults. What are you talking about? The Hayley Williams spammer constantly talks about her being with underage guys, it’s obvious pedophilia that is creepy and mostly ignored by everyone here

>>127354958
I assumed Hayley Williams was underage when you said pedophile.

>>127354958
Zoomers dont mean underage Hayley. The oldest Zoomers are 29 at this point.

>>127355311
Yea and the youngest are still illegal. That doesn’t make the hayleypedo any less creepy

>>127356091
Nigga stop being a faggot and roll with the punches. Its all in good fun.

I bet you are a faggot irl and support the lgbt. You need a beating in Christmas thats what you need. Bitch.

>>127356138
It’s not good fun, it’s creepy pedo behavior that doesn’t belong on this music board. Nice try pedo

>>127354331
Not a real country, just like Israel or UAE, vassal states with no soul or sense of identity.

>>127354348
Because you cunts have a million other threads about seppo bands retard

>>127356223
Almost every Australian band sucks

>>127346667 (OP)
>Irony poisoning
This is unbeatable sadly.
Once losers find the comfort of shelling themselves off from confrontation they never go back to actually being sincere.
IRL people who act like this get beaten into the pavement which is why it's so much rarer among actual people but that isn't an option for posters.
Personally I think duplicitous actors and bait should just become bannable offenses but that goes against the chaos that makes 4chan alive.

>>127356249
> bannable offenses
We have a lot of bannable offenses that are ignored, adding to the list would be nice but it probably wouldn’t solve anything. You need the jannies to react and they usually don’t even if needed

Music itself would have to be made great again for /mu/ to get better.
There's nothing going on in music anymore other than
>Retarded rapper gets shot dead
>Whore makes whore album
>Shitty country for shitty people.

>>127346667 (OP)
>Any ideas?
sound embedded videos and links
This way anons could post music without resorting to yt/sc/vocaroo or some other 3rd party site to share audio

>>127354348
alright fuck i'll drop the tripfagging lmao

>>127356317
This will become a necessary feature with how far south YouTube is headed. surprisingly the music threads on /wsg/ are usually alright so I think it will work pretty well.

kpop stays it was always a part of mu culture

>>127356229
This clown has listened to almost every australian band

>>127346827

I would take a bullet for my wife Taylor Alison. She can have as big a cult here as she likes!

>>127356229
>AUSTRALIA IS LE BAD
https://youtu.be/XfR9iY5y94s?si=RtvLXN4Qf45W8hLW

bring back /mu/ makes an album threads!!

>>127346784
You’re not a schizo. I’ve been saying labels come here a post about artist all the time. It’s free. It’s a targeted audience.

my niggas duscissng kpop, taylor swift, hayley williams etc is music. its about musicians.

what /mu/ needs is fucking OC just make music you fuckng fags.

1. Figure out what the new /mu/core is. The best of 2010s and 2020s should be compiled into more charts/infographics. Don't focus too much on pop, k-pop or rap, though. That obsession has driven almost everyone else off the board that isn't a mainstream zoomer. Find the best rock, classical, fusion, folk, metal, etc.

2. /mu/ has to have better and deeper recommendations that are actually good. The board itself should be an argument in favour of curated content instead of algorithms.

3. There must be a sharethread every day. Do it as consistently as those kpop single band threads that get posted every day. Make sure that it's always up.

4. If you come across these types of "save /mu/" threads and find yourself wishing /mu/ was better, commit to posting one thread a day with a bit of effort in it. If you want to do more, knock yourself out, but one a day for the several anons that feel this way would go a long way.

5. Bring back gatekeeping. Current day /mu/ is what a lack of gatekeeping looks like. The experiment was a failure, it's time to go back to what worked.

6. Stop making pepe threads. At least use a different picture. Try to use your imagination. Some new culture may actually develop as a result of it.

7. If you see chuddy or /pol/ threads, don't post in them. Just make a music related thread instead to help slide those into the archive.

8. Don't get discouraged if it doesn't work immediately. Keep posting good threads and the culture will shift to something better.

9. Make a Save /mu/ Discord server to coordinate posting if you need to. There are several Discord servers dedicated to making 4chan shit, so one that's dedicated to making it not shit would be nice.

>>127346667 (OP)
>>Zoomers or "Zoomer Culture" depending on whether you are a Zoomer or not
99% of this issue is aging balding milliennials upset that they are getting old and are no longer the center of attention. >>127346688 says it perfectly

speaking of making /mu/ great again. you guys should check out the cytube!
>>127356960
>>127356960

>>127356249
Once you point out that you understand the game they are playing they start to lose it. Nothing pisses them off more than you noticing and saying something. It inoculates others here against it. The patterns are repetitive, therefore easy to notice. So if you start making noise other people start noticing. You spoil their fun by making a lot of noise about what they're doing in their threads and denying them serious reactions.

>>127354323
Then people will tell you to buy an ad

>>127251262

>>127354323
>>127357235
Shill threads exist

>>127357267
I have better things to do than talk to that schizo Matthew Zazueta all day long

What about Op and the shitheaded mods bukkaking one another with camel sperm and suffering with some camel jizz to death?

>>127357309
nigger

>>127357191
>>127357267
bump

>>127357190
It's genuinely destructive though. Everything gets torn to shreds, people talk like niggers and cringe culture reigns supreme. It's cultural cannibalism.

>>127346667 (OP)
I disagree with all of these suggestions. I don't want /mu/ to improve. I just want to complain.

>>127357538
BASED

>>127346667 (OP)
Some 30+ year old faggot made this thread instead of getting a wife. 4cuck is dead. Get over it.

Make The Aquabats /mu/core.
This will fix this board. No I will not explain it, I did the math, it'll work.

>>127346667 (OP)
>>127357177
No one cares enough to do this shit except maybe 3 people. You can't force community, or excitement, and you can't save a dying body. Trying to unite modern mu is like trying to create Yugoslavia
Every month or so some new bright eyed Zoomer tries the same thing only to get demoralized by reality. >>127357190
Is somewhat correct. The only good thriving music community I've been in was a Discord server that went down in 2023.
Sentimental pleas might teach an anon enthusiasm for a day.
A healthy (typically young) environment will teach them enthusiasm for life (or until life happens)

Meta threads aren't actually allowed, I think the tranny jannies forgot that shit. Why this shitheap of a thread is still up?

I found /mu/ in feb 2007 after spending months on /b/. 4chan is 4chan. Sorry you're a zoomer OP, not my problem.

>>127357573
Lmao this zoomer thinks when he gets a wife he won't still come to 4chan to argue with gen alpha retards. The cycle will repeat itself I promise you. Once you're here you're cursed to frequent this place forever. The only way to break the cycle is to leave right now and never come back.

>>127358009
Hey get a load of this backseat janny crying for mod intervention. If you want to do it for free so badly why don't you fill out an application next time they open up?

>>127346667 (OP)
reddit and phone poster
just shut the fuck up poser

>>127357996
>>127357177
Yeah fair enough. Will both sides in mind. The effort it will take will be severe but it could happen. Depends on who we've got.

>>127354295
OK yeah fair enough

>>127346667 (OP)
Only the Americans and Aussies seem to want /mu/ to be better. As soon as eastern Europe and the middle east wake up, this place goes to hell.

>>127358458
Omar Souleyman general/Bashar Al-Assad anthems general lol

>>127357297
Thank you for the worthless cliquespam

>>127346667 (OP)
Was reading this like "you sound like a zoomer newfag poltard" and got to the end where you say you are one. Lol. Actual oldfag here, people like you "ruined" this board more than anything else. It's always been shit with cool threads and posts interspersed here and there. That's the way it is.

>>127359403
It's worse now than it was in 2018 when I first came here. It's like shit vs drowning in shit. People shilling for Grimes is only a step better than people shilling for Rodrigo but it's a low fucking bar.

>>127346667 (OP)
Noble attempt but there is quite literally no fixing 4chan. All of the jannies are newfags and have no semblance of knowledge on old 4chan culture, so they don't know how to enforce the old standard.
The actual population of 4chan has aged down -- most oldfags aged out and moved on, the ones remaining are massively outnumbered.
2016 did irreparable damage to 4chan, we are simply playing in the husk.