Thread 127373087

(Yes, I know it's not actually Monday, but I couldn't make the thread yesterday so this'll have to do!)

Please remember that this is for classic (1970-1990) traditional heavy metal and its sub-genres (speed, power, doom, progressive and thrash) only! Brutal thrash, death, black, and other forms of extreme metal fall outside of the scope of this thread, and if what you want to submit is heavier than Exodus then please go to >>127365096 or any other; more appropriate thread. Thank you!

Budgie - Breadfan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQdesb2vzRo&ab_channel=BudgieUnofficalFanPage

Old: >>127286110

Y&T - hurricane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkrfmA_P_i8&pp=ygUNWSZUIGh1cnJpY2FuZdIHCQmtCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
picture - eternal dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ri7eudUTkI&pp=ygUUcGljdHVyZSBldGVybmFsIGRhcms%3D
krokus - night wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImuXvvcjMDc&pp=ygURa3Jva3VzIG5pZ2h0IHdvbGY%3D

beowulf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oVMBOv8eNE

you could have called it Traditional Metal Tuesday

>>127374678
goddamn it you're right

for the next thread i'm also considering extending the cutoff to 2000 so we can get stoner and a lot more doom metal in here. however that would mean plenty of other genres need to be restricted to keep the spirit of /cmm/ intact. so if i do choose to extend the cutoff, these are the genres that would be 100% okay:

traditional/heavy metal
doom metal
stoner metal
speed metal
progressive metal
power metal
thrash metal

a few genres that depend on the song and or band:

alternative metal
glam metal/hair metal
groove metal (much as i don't like this genre, it's allowed if the cutoff is extended)
sludge metal

and genres that are NOT appropriate for /cmm/ (and i'd much prefer if they were posted somewhere else):

black metal
brutal thrash/death-thrash
death metal
industrial metal
nu metal

does this sound reasonable to everyone? or should some more tweaks be made?

>>127374956
I think the scope of the general should just be based on genre family rather than timeframe. NWoTHM fits much better than groove metal (which it and other "90's" genres I'd consider extensions of alternative or fusion metal)
Progressive metal that isn't also power/heavy metal should be a case by case judgement, if allowed. A lot of it has left heavy metal behind in the same way death metal left thrash.
Death doom, funeral doom, and drone metal shouldn't be included, but I'm sure you had that in mind. Maybe gothic doom too, and probably no gothic metal in general.
What do you think of death 'n' roll/black 'n' roll? Allow none of it, or only if it's heavy metal enough?

>>127375178
>I think the scope of the general should just be based on genre family rather than timeframe
So I initially had the timeframe for one main reason. I really, really don't like how overproduced a lot of modern heavy metal is, and in /metal/ (the main metal thread on /mu/) if traditional metal is discussed that's almost what it is. But, in order to have more of the genres that I want included, the timeframe just isn't really realistic. And I'd much rather put up with modern overproduced metal than lose out on having stoner (one of my favorite sub-genres) in these threads.
>Progressive metal that isn't also power/heavy metal should be a case by case judgement, if allowed. A lot of it has left heavy metal behind in the same way death metal left thrash.
Mmm. Admittedly I don't listen to a lot of prog-metal, so I suppose that this is reasonable. It's probably the sub-genre of trad I have the least experience with. :p
>Death doom, funeral doom, and drone metal shouldn't be included, but I'm sure you had that in mind. Maybe gothic doom too, and probably no gothic metal in general.
Absolutely none of these sub-genres would be allowed.
>What do you think of death 'n' roll/black 'n' roll? Allow none of it, or only if it's heavy metal enough?
None. If it has pronounced elements of death/black, I don't want it here.

So with all that being said... I think what I'm going to do is remove the timeframe, make it so these threads are not limited to one day (there's no point in keeping it limited to Monday if the floodgates are being opened like this), and create a proper FAQ like /metal/. Does this sound alright?

>>127375277
yeah sounds good

>>127375484
Awesome!

Candlemass - Demons Gate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prs94rwlFms&list=PL6ogdCG3tAWg5j2pDQuSzlfgGLJ6eCTdv&index=2&pp=iAQB8AUB (finally listening to this album after holding it off for months, it's fucking flawless so far)

>>127373087 (OP)
Really digging this

>>127375500
I listened to that album a while back, but I just didn't get the appeal. Thought the sophomore record was a lot better.

Currently writing out the guidelines, choosing to allow trad-influenced alt metal like AiC and Soundgarden, but banning all groove metal. (Outside of CFH I can't name any trad-influenced groove metal.) Sound reasonable, everyone?

https://pastebin.com/KnwVzhQ3 Alright, I just finished laying out the guidelines. Take a look and let me know if there's any mistakes/stuff that needs adjusting. :)

Scorpions - Lovedrive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7EpCb8Ojw&list=PLsT9douBcx98EuQq8AvV9h0O5McDNhteX&index=7&pp=iAQB8AUB

>>127374678
like taco tuesday except it's trad

>>127376433
steel sunday lol

>>127373087 (OP)
I recognize Roger Dean art from anywhere.

>>127376457
from what i'm seeing, he did the album covers for both squawk (1972) and never turn your back on a friend (1973)

Virgin Steele - Children of the Storm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-vSC9YL5VA&list=PLBfoeChxFPLCe0vvQRgHEsuOfFslrXN0g&index=3&pp=iAQB8AUB

Saint Vitus - Born Too Late https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTsrE0Lbtc&list=OLAK5uy_m5mxxwhA7tk9YM7RFgErjbGg3g0uPlufw&index=1&pp=8AUB
Saint Vitus - The War Starter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqaWZ5A0zY&list=OLAK5uy_m5mxxwhA7tk9YM7RFgErjbGg3g0uPlufw&index=6&pp=8AUB
Saint Vitus - War Is Our Destiny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k96dE4055bI&pp=ygUec2FpbnQgdml0dXMgd2FyIGlzIG91ciBkZXN0aW55

>>127375500
YOU'LL ALL FA-A-ALL
OOOOOON YOOOOOUR KNEES
AND HAIL TO OUR DAWN

CRA-A-AWL OOOOOOON YOOOOUR KNEES
THE SLAUGHTER IS OOOOOOOOON

Soundgarden - Smokestack Lightning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4lWd4yVe6o&pp=ygUgU09VTkRHQVJERU4gU01PS0VTVEFDSyBMSUdIVE5JTkc%3D
Been obsessed with this song lately, the groove is so... so fucking good.

I wanted some delicious cheese tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2az2Vxl0hjE

>>127377870
it's a good song, but it's too produced for my tastes. pretty sick album art though

riot - desperation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix4camkYS8g&list=PLX_ZUCaed_xfTLNjk2pQ8ZUFhsz5608B5&index=1&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
riot - overdrive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qojx-2xWQk4&list=PLX_ZUCaed_xfTLNjk2pQ8ZUFhsz5608B5&index=4&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
riot - heart of fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHZpg5aX77c&list=PLX_ZUCaed_xfTLNjk2pQ8ZUFhsz5608B5&index=7&ab_channel=Riot-Topic

rock city is an amazing album, one of the best metal records of the '70s

>>127377944
Yeah, that album is from 2002. Riot is a good band. I haven't listened to them in a long time.

>>127377959
>I haven't listened to them in a long time.
they're a phenomenal band! riffs for days and some of the catchiest choruses in classic metal. they hit a bit of a slump with their output immediately after fire down under due to the lineup switch, but for thundersteel at least they completely rebounded in quality (though i haven't listened to that record in a while.) i'll post some of my favorites from their classic period

riot - warrior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFALiKln3I&list=PLX_ZUCaed_xfTLNjk2pQ8ZUFhsz5608B5&index=2&pp=iAQB8AUB
riot - kick down the wall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaAsBS-tMog&list=PLkROH3Eqs0T8_kH92gE-gpSl2TzUuXAIj&index=3&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
riot - road racin' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6h7Pk1XX4&list=PLkROH3Eqs0T8_kH92gE-gpSl2TzUuXAIj&index=10&pp=iAQB8AUB
riot - swords and tequila https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4lKJ0pdTg&list=PLkROH3Eqs0T-zAYJdAxAKB_Qk-6uxKG6o&index=1&pp=iAQB8AUB
riot - fire down under https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVXi0OMIqW8&list=PLkROH3Eqs0T-zAYJdAxAKB_Qk-6uxKG6o&index=2&pp=iAQB8AUB
riot - altar of the king https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucPuzoyWLFs&list=PLkROH3Eqs0T-zAYJdAxAKB_Qk-6uxKG6o&index=7&pp=iAQB8AUB

TURBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87QwCpVXX8I

>>127377870
That manowar album is from 2000's .

Blasting some glam heavy metal that was in my slsk wishlist for a long time. These guys were on the 1986 Transformers soundtrack under the name Spectre General.
First two tracks are good catchy heavy metal tunes, but Stay on Top leans into glam a little more, and that vocal scatting is testing my patience.

>>127373087 (OP)
What the fuck are these vocals

>>127373087 (OP)
Based

>>127376042
Aic and soundgarden have absolutely nothing, nothing to do with traditional Metal.

>>127373087 (OP)
>Budgie
>>127382355
>soundgarden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9td6GRE-g9c

>>127380997
OP here, the cutoff's been removed and it's effective as of this thread

>>127382355
AiC is maybe a bit debatable (only their first album I'd say is mostly okay) but soundgarden had a lot of trad influence early on, have you listened to their debut or louder than love? the sabbath/doom metal influence is undeniable in their early output

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va9BIPt6_-o&list=PL6mpyAioMZGh6gyrIfdYkv2P9LQ3Kft_L&index=1&pp=iAQB8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpMJenVV1hs&list=PL6mpyAioMZGh6gyrIfdYkv2P9LQ3Kft_L&index=4&pp=iAQB8AUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcND3uM2YU&list=PL6mpyAioMZGh6gyrIfdYkv2P9LQ3Kft_L&index=9&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zky7hbW-upk&list=PL6mpyAioMZGh6gyrIfdYkv2P9LQ3Kft_L&index=10&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7qNoFwvKSc&list=PL6mpyAioMZGh6gyrIfdYkv2P9LQ3Kft_L&index=12&ab_channel=Soundgarden-Topic

>>127381590
oh shit i've listened to this record before! off memory i thought it had a few good songs, but the rest was very run of the mill heavy glam. this is the only one i remember really liking off that album

kick axe - cause for alarm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usohwBLKWOg&ab_channel=KickAxe-Topic

>>127385390
Yeah I was a little disappointed, but the metal songs like Cause for Alarm were good and even some of the rock/glam ones were alright.

>>127381843
A Welsh guy who sounds like Geddy Lee trying to imitate Robert Plant.

>>127386111
>even some of the rock/glam ones were alright.
some of them i suppose were alright, but nothing i haven't heard done better. the metal stuff was easily the best material on that LP

lizzy borden - me against the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qjTN53Cf7I&pp=ygUhbGl6enkgYm9yZGVuIG1lIGFnYWluc3QgdGhlIHdvcmxk
this is one of the best heavy glam songs i know of. hook's excellent, guitarwork's outstanding and the melody's really memorable. (also the reissue album cover on this upload has so much less personality and charm than the original which i posted alongside this. why'd they change it?)

>>127386111
>even some of the rock/glam ones were alright.
some of them i suppose were alright, but nothing i haven't heard done better. the metal stuff was easily the best material on that LP, and even then... it wasn't particularly outstanding.

lizzy borden - me against the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qjTN53Cf7I&pp=ygUhbGl6enkgYm9yZGVuIG1lIGFnYWluc3QgdGhlIHdvcmxk [Embed]

this is one of the best (and also underrated, man this song should be more well known) heavy glam songs i know of. hook's excellent, guitarwork's outstanding and the melody's really memorable. i am kind of bummed about the reissue album cover on that upload, though. i think it has a lot less appeal and charm than the original from 1987, and lizzy's eyes being blacked out is a bizarre choice to say the least. you have an idea as to why they changed the album cover for future issues?

YOU CANT BRING ME DOWN
https://youtu.be/A9Ga0y7TrJM

blasting some japanese trad from the late '80s, haven't listened to this one in quite a while ツ

show-ya - out of limits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7DkQP0Xh9U&list=PLGtn14EC6cczESgwd_qjF3dwShcbyBOaM&index=1&pp=iAQB8AUB0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv

>>127386331
now that's an album i need to listen to sometime, it's been on my list for months lol

storm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7XBid1tEkY

>>127387520
interesting little song, can't say i've ever heard of this band. it reminds me of queen's heavier material from early on in the '70s

def leppard - getcha rocks off (EP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3Dw6oLqHs&list=RDU2HDpHBR_ag&index=5&pp=8AUB

shiva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdRDN2NzBo

pentagram - wartime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2b7NhUgjWY&ab_channel=Pentagram-Topic

revisiting some Blind Guardian

>>127389822
based, i just finished writing out the new template and now i'm cataloging what albums i'll choose for following threads.

and right now i'm listening to this fucking CLASSIC of an album. blackout is without question my favorite metal record from 1982 and one of my favorites period. (and undoubtedly one of the albums i'll choose for /trad/ in the near future)

>>127389859
I have actually never listened to Scorpions. Another band for the list...
As for favorite metal record of 1982, Accept's Restless and Wild.

Here's an obscure little classic.

diamond rexx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0FJw5rAKTg

praying mantis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAShX0zvGwE

ayo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k4wG4mTTQk

cloven hoof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kykd6PUqw9g

msg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuFFtkg4QLY

>>127376627
>>127377023
>>127377944
>>127378020

>>127385019
>>127386305
>>127386353
>>127387563
Jesus FUCKING christ man. Stop posting those fucked up links. Just copypaste the links to the first "&" then post them.

Fuck!

>>127391702
It does clutter the links but it's not the end of the world

>>127391702
>Stop posting those fucked up links
not that poster but how does it "fuck up" the links?
I can view them just fine

>>127390353
taken by force is an essential '70s metal album, and then listen to blackout and tokyo tapes.
>As for favorite metal record of 1982, Accept's Restless and Wild.
i really like the first two songs and princess of the dawn, but to me the rest of that record just isn't anything terribly special.

>>127393599
what he means is that i don't shorten links when posting them. blame my laziness ツ

uncle acid & the deadbeats - death's door https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbO5vDJFRI\
witch - changing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEXxnUEwjPQ

blasting thundersteel, still a phenomenal album and maybe even more so upon relisten. if any of you somehow haven't listened to this one, i wholeheartedly recommend it!

riot - thundersteel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjrhukAsi9I
riot - fight or fall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AvXPs93Hgs
riot - flight of the warrior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkALWbHqCI0
riot - on wings of eagles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMdR6FQ8dc&

>>127393995
I love Witch. RVW, Hand of Glory and Isadora are amazing ending, the second album is alright as well, though sonically different.

>>127394689
it's ALLL about the first song off of that LP for me. seer strikes the perfect balance between very trippy and very demented and is a pure joy to listen to. i still really like the album outside of that song, but seer is easily one of my favorite psychedelic metal songs.

>>127376391
I think most of the dependent/gray area genre section can be reduced to "if it doesn't overlap with traditional metal, don't post it" with a list of genres and a couple do/don't example bands each.

>>127373087 (OP)
There's an album that was recorded by Jeff Fenholt (worked with Iommi on what would become Seventh Star before reinventing himself as a televangelist) and Craig Goldy (Dio) that was shelved in the mid-90s. A few tracks have leaked out over the years, it's decent Purple/Rainbow kinda shit, hope it gets released sometime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk2vvAVzhyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cas7dCGcz70

Good, but not as good as I remember. There's some good could-have-been doom riffs tucked in the songs, but the songs are so smothered in 80's production gloss for a lot of people to stomach.

>>127398303
People often cite Hard Life to Love as the worst thing on the album but I never agreed, always thought it was built around one of Iommi's best latter-day riffs.

>>127397566
>"if it doesn't overlap with traditional metal, don't post it" with a list of genres and a couple do/don't example bands each.
this might not work in practice, because i can't picture in my head how to format this, and one of the genres specifically (alternative metal) I only listen to the two bands that I named before. AiC and soundgarden. i'd need some more examples for that sub-genre specifically.

>>127398074
first song's pretty good, and yeah it's like a strange hybrid of deep purple and rainbow, it's got elements of both bands.

>>127379944
That band is phenomenal and deserves way more recognition

>>127398315
Every song on that album is great, I don't know why people are so dismissive of it
I would go as far as to say that it is the most underrated Sabbath album

lizzy borden - give 'em the axe (full EP) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpQJUXDK4XE
this is a short, but very fun listen! just as awesome as lizzy's actual debut album from the following year.

white spirit - way before Janick Gers was in Maiden or Gillan he was in a NWOBHM band...
This is my favorite of theirs
it has a memorable keyboard riff sort of like Europe's Final Countdown..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxRPcUirJZs

more power hours

Krokus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5t9F-6aAns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvudmKJjZZc

>>127404171
>posts krokus
>doesn't post something off headhunter

krokus - eat the rich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwk0emLPZ5A

>>127398074
sounds cool actually

bomp
/meal/ has gone to shit again

>>127406824
>/meal/ has gone to shit again
many such cases. though i was kind of hoping for this thread to archive, so i can finally make a new one with the up-to-date template and name :p

budgie - forearm smash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pEL9puZvJs
tokyo blade - night of the blade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEJQwDj6n5g
witch cross - nightflight to tokyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2X7H309q4

>>127373087 (OP)
Why stop at 1990? Lots of good thrash (and other non-extreme) metal can be found in the 1990s and beyond.
https://youtu.be/6BOHpjIZyx0

>>127407717
>Why stop at 1990?
read the rest of the thread. also sepultura is pretty clearly the kind of thrash that ISN'T allowed here, it's got death elements and that's where the line is drawn

>>127407766
Fucking gay

>>127407799
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

blasting the best judas priest album, have some deeper cuts from the record

judas priest - white heat, red hot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5HPyjhq3ao
judas priest - saints in hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHHXLlChOgU
judas priest - heroes end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaiW6FNgdRc

>>127401112
I found out Janick Gers was in that Gogmagog supergroup with Paul Di’Anno and Clive Burr. Too bad they were only allowed to play knock-off Meatloaf rock opera by the producer.

>>127407943
didn't know about this. thanks. will need to listen

>>127407943
i've heard of gogmagog but never listened to it
>Too bad they were only allowed to play knock-off Meatloaf rock opera by the producer.
and this is why. haven't heard the best things about it lol

>>127407717
>>127407799
/xxr/ will take brutal/death-thrash if you like
>>127381216

>>127389859
blasting again, i love this album so fucking much bros

Bump. I'll try some more Blind Guardian since I've picked the first two back up and enjoyed them a lot. The lack of a speed metal primary genre tag for this album on RYM spooks me a bit though.

>>127410517
>The lack of a speed metal primary genre tag for this album on RYM spooks me a bit though.
RYM is fucking retarded with blind guardian, their second LP doesn't have thrash primary even though over half the damn songs on that album are voted as thrash.

powerlord - the invasion of the lords https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_FZ0ifoyj8

powerlord - merciless titans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqYchKM0o8

this is another really good one too, this specific song is very reminiscent of metal church but a lot thrashier and harsher

tygers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F7SYUOCGio

angel city aka the angels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PcHcE1cLr0