Thread 127415964

Awaken the Guardian edition
Fates Warning - Exodus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razBtNN7ruw

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>>127415964 (OP)
Fates Warning are extremely overrated. As are Nevermore.

Dream Theater from 1988-1995 and Queensrÿche shits all over both bands. Fates Warning had some cool album covers though.

>>127415984
I think classic queensryche is relatively equal to fates warning, and i can't really comment on if DT is good or not since i've never listened to them. :p

>>127416015
>I think classic queensryche is relatively equal to fates warning
You think wrong.

>>127416036
ditto!

fates warning - pirates of the underground https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzT7Sbq5hgM
fates warning - kyrie eleison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBzJj61sIA4

>>127415964 (OP)
no year restriction now?

>>127416104
nope! as long as it's related to trad metal it's fair game. (though don't expect me to personally pick modern stuff lol)

trauma - scratch and scream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kUFFCd8BWE

>>127416123
nice. i've got trad revival bands in spades ova here.

my favorite of the bunch: Skull Fist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPh8EWRloTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ0pOmZLE8w

>>127416180
i'll give those two songs a shot after i'm done with this record. really like how scratchy the guitar tone is on this one, it reminds me a lot of let it loose by savage. very aggressive and raw

trauma - the warlock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkeViqj0PwU
trauma - lay low https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raUH6mJ8c8g
trauma - in the endhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJMje74eU-U

>>127416054
Pirates of the Underground makes my whole point for me.
Unnecessarily long intro that doesn't lead anywhere and is based on standard riffing with noodling upon it and 2 minutes into the song it might've been three different songs that has already passed through your ears. Stiff guitar, bass and drums and a vocal melody that is all over the place and you can't hear what's the verse, bridge or chorus.

Then you have Queensrÿche
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnj4jU_IGlQ

Intro riff building towards the verse with different layers, the verse is really catchy and goes naturally into the chorus and the whole song has a natural groove too it.

You hear Queensrÿche you hear how to write a song.
You hear Fates Warning you hear how to write riffs and solo parts and just stack them next to each other and on each other.

The songwriting are miles apart and the main reason why Queensrÿche was in the highest tier of metal and Fates Warning was a cult band.

>>127416280
I get all of your points and on an objective level I do agree... but I still really like Fates regardless of them not being as adept at songwriting. They're just enjoyable to me in a way Queensryche isn't. FW to me is more "aw hell yeah this is fucking awesome let's slay some fucking dragons to this shit!" whereas QR is more "sit down and study how the song is built" y'know? I respect both bands but due to the nature of QR I just like FW and listen to them more often. I'll post my favorite QR songs:

Queensryche - NM 156 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgeJilyRpfw
Queensryche - The Lady Wore Black https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kig5JYCCUo
Queensryche - Queen of the Reich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYX74wd6ff0

Why did Hashem kill him? Imagine how powerful Metallica would be if he had lived.

>>127416619
Metallica - (Anesthesia) Pulling Teeth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S002MadnlQs

This song demonstrates exactly why. His power level was simply too high and was borderline inhuman by '86.

A3 with its clusterfuck songwriting and awful chorus does quite a number on this otherwise very solid EP. A damn shame, because the B side is fantastic, well-written USPM that easily stands toe-to-toe with the other greats from 1986. Highlight is easily the title track.

Banshee - The Stranger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwKEmeK4pQ
Banshee - Cry in the Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpZqMHZ3aHY

>>127416280
Utterly shit taste, Pirates of the Underground is like a raucous journey on a turbulent sea, there's nothing generic about it

>>127418335
you explained it far better than i could lol. i think i'm gonna blast that record again

fates warning - orphan gypsy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiVrPuSpjkM
fates warning - the apparition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zl8vMM3eeU

bump, blasting this classic for the first time since last year

death angel - thrashers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIb3JPIOXw

Shame how this one just tends to get forgotten about. Okay fine, Zakk was probably a downgrade from Jake and as others have pointed out his playing here is very derivative of John Sykes on the Whitesnake '87 album, but there's some great songs and the production is a lot better than Ultimate Sin. The last album to have Daisley as the lyricist as well, which obviously was a blow to the songwriting going forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDpToN2M3ao&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50jw48zVCWk&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlCoc_OismQ&

>>127419850
oh god i fucking hated listening to this album! while it wasn't as poor an effort as the ultimate sin it certainly got close at points and was (to me) so much more unengaging and dull.

>>127418359
There aren't many albums I would consider perfect, but this is one of them. Everything is brilliant. No moment is wasted.

Can't really say the same about Awaken the Guardian. Valley of the Dolls isn't that great, and I would totally skip Prelude to Ruin if it wasn't for the "time time time" part. The rest is excellent, though.

>>127419945
>Can't really say the same about Awaken the Guardian.
I actually think AtG is better than TSW, mainly because I just think the first song off Spectre is a cut below (it's still a great song) the rest of the album. But other than that they're pretty much identical in quality to me, and both records have astronomical highs. It's not until No Exit and its overlong final song that I think the band makes its first outright mistake.

>>127415964 (OP)
I think it's a bit sad how Jimmy Page apparently lost any desire to play heavy music ever again after this, since he still clearly had some gas left in the tank based on the songs here.

This is a great one for fans of early Fates Warning, Queensryche and Crimson Glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFlxGDH31w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1xe8xb4mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeWQFS6eI7g

>>127420023
>Jimmy Page
>Led Zeppelin
Metal, damn it! METAL! Jimmy Page's riffs are rock and boulder, not steel and iron.

>>127420055
I remember really liking this one, and yeah early Queensryche is the best comparison to it. (Although why's your file a .gif? Is it supposed to be animated?)

>>127420086
>Although why's your file a .gif? Is it supposed to be animated?
No idea, it was just the first result when I searched up the album cover.

>>127420096
Bizarre, but I've had it happen to me a few times in the past.
>when I searched up the album cover.
I'd recommend sourcing your album covers off Metallum, that's where I get all of mine unless they're distinctly low quality. At which point I just use RYM or Discogs.

Screamer - Future World https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1xe8xb4mk
This is the one song that I remember really liking off that record, if my old ranking of it is anything to go by. : j

>>127420136
If I had a million dollars for every time a heavy/power metal band released a great song called Future World in the late 80s, I'd only have three million, but it's weird that it happened three times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ozEjfhcN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1xe8xb4mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiX_931OCog

>>127420178
Dude that song by Pretty Maids is soooo fucking good, one of my personal favorite riffs and use of keyboards in a metal song. It's a damn shame the rest of the record absolutely pales in comparison, though. Had serious potential to be on par with Red, Hot and Heavy if it kept up the same level of quality throughout as its title track.

>>127420178
>>127420210
This one is good. Listen closely and you'll hear Graham Bonnet on backing vocals in the chorus

https://youtu.be/CukzaxWbgNI?si=zQkYx3HfCQTLaUM2

>>127420136
>This is the one song that I remember really liking off that record, if my old ranking of it is anything to go by. : j
It's my favorite from the album. It takes some real talent to make a song that's barely four minutes sound so epic. The ending in particular is fantastic. "Beyond destruction life goes on..."

>>127420221
Actually on the topic of Graham Bonnet, I'll take a chance to shill the first Impellitteri album. Good Rainbow/Yngwie worship with Pat Torpey from Mr. Big on drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3lCoNub-oU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwHOnmBs5Kw

>>127420221
Wow, I forgot about this one! Reminds me a LOT of early Scorpions-circa Blackout but heavier and with keyboards. Anyways I'm listening to it and it's a pretty dang good song, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the title track. The only one that I think gets close to those standards is maybe Rodeo or Yellow Rain.
>Listen closely and you'll hear Graham Bonnet on backing vocals in the chorus
Honestly I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't told so, it's not very distinguishable from main vocals.

>>127420234
Dude. If you want to shill something Graham Bonnet related do Desert Song off MSG - Assault Attack. Point-blank, one of the best heavy metal songs of 1982. That moment where the song transitions into that extended solo (2:38) is one of my absolute favorite bits of guitar playing. Just pure fucking magic, man. It's an example of painting a picture without words, and a DAMN fucking good one at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO-NOSlqLW8

>>127420228
>that's barely four minutes sound so epic.
Hear, hear. Like it's one thing to have a really long, adventurous epic like Epitaph by Fates Warning, but it's another to turn that into a bite-sized tune and STILL have the energy carry over.

>>127420291
I really like the title track and Desert Song but otherwise don't really rate Assault Attack that highly. It's a shame because Graham Bonnet is a much better singer than Gary Barden but I think the songs on the debut and MSG are a lot better than Assault Attack.

Schenker was a fucking mess during that period, it's amazing he put out anything at all. Robert Fleischman, who was in Journey briefly before Steve Perry and later sang on the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album, was auditioned to replace Barden and said that he was super excited because he loved UFO and really wanted to work with Cozy Powell, but got scared and went back home to the States as quickly as he could because the studio got raided after someone working there tipped off the police about Schenker's drug use. He says that he and Powell, who he got along really well with, went for a walk down to the pub one day during their lunch break and when they got back they saw Schenker screaming and yelling while being carted out by some bobbies lol

>>127420527
>but I think the songs on the debut and MSG are a lot better than Assault Attack.
Hmm... I guess it's half and half? I honestly think AA and the debut are pretty neck-and-neck in terms of quality. And as for the one from 1981, I still have yet to listen to it.
>Schenker was a fucking mess during that period
Just read this and wow, yeah you weren't kidding. Sounds like he was a living wreck (lol) at the time. Do you think that his downward spiral was maybe brought on by his involvement with the Lovedrive album?

Rat Attack - Reaper's Prey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aucs1802WqE [Embed] (REALLY FUCKING GOOD SONG.)

>>127420527
>but I think the songs on the debut and MSG are a lot better than Assault Attack.
Hmm... I guess it's half and half? I honestly think AA and the debut are pretty neck-and-neck in terms of quality. And as for the one from 1981, I still have yet to listen to it.
>Schenker was a fucking mess during that period
Just read this and wow, yeah you weren't kidding. Sounds like he was a living wreck (lol) at the time. Do you think that his downward spiral was maybe brought on by his involvement with the Lovedrive album?

Rat Attack - Reaper's Prey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aucs1802WqE (The definition of a hidden gem.)

Finally giving this band a shot. Looking forward to it!

>>127419850
>The last album to have Daisley as the lyricist as well
Wrong. He wrote lyrics on No More Tears as well.
>>127419864
Miracle Man is one of the best Ozzy songs ever.

>>127421197
1. Why do Shrapnel albums have production hallower than my soul, it's the exact same fucking shit Keel's debut album suffered from where the sound is strangely raw but lacks any sort of punch.
2. Good album but it blows its load with the first three songs + the beginning instrumental and the final song is pretty subpar.

Is the follow-up to this one any better? Because outside of the excellent guitarwork I didn't think this was all that great.

>>127421684
>Miracle Man is one of the best Ozzy songs ever
Good song on a subpar LP? I'd say so, although Zakk's guitar chicanery gets old by the end of the track. But one of Ozzy's best solo career songs? Hell no! I'm listening to the song right now and it's not even comparable to anything off the first three records. Even the weakest off Bark at the Moon (You're No Different) is better than this one.

>>127421684
None of his lyrics for No More Tears got used, per the man himself.

>>127421744
Nearly all of Varney's Shrapnel albums were produced by him and engineered by Steve Fontano. Add to that they were all pretty low-budget and recorded extremely quickly in the same studio (Prairie Sun in California), you get a bunch of albums that sound-wise are very similar.

The second Racer X album is worth listening to, they have a second guitarist on that one so while the songwriting is still very much that Priest-meets-Malmsteen sound, there's a lot more crazy harmony stuff. The reunion album from the late '90s, Technical Difficulties, is good too.

>>127421820
>Nearly all of Varney's Shrapnel albums were produced by him and engineered by Steve Fontano. Add to that they were all pretty low-budget and recorded extremely quickly in the same studio (Prairie Sun in California), you get a bunch of albums that sound-wise are very similar.
Interesting, well this clears that up for me. Though I am curious, did Shrapnel have the same pretty piss-poor reputation in the '80s? I know nowadays their earlier stuff does (not sure about new material, or if they even still exist), but I wonder whether they did in their heyday.

>The second Racer X album is worth listening to, they have a second guitarist on that one so while the songwriting is still very much that Priest-meets-Malmsteen sound, there's a lot more crazy harmony stuff. The reunion album from the late '90s, Technical Difficulties, is good too.
Well, I was bound to check out their other efforts at SOME point, but to hear that they do guitar harmonies on their subsequent output is quite nice. That was one of my favorite elements of Street Lethal. That and the excellent riffs which (in my opinion) salvaged that otherwise mediocre LP.

>>127421820
Yeah, I remembered that wrong.

night

I saw this in a thread the other day and was intrigued by the spooky cover, so decided to check it out. Really good old school speed metal.

well that's a fucking opener

good morning everyone

>>127422195
looks sick, might check it out in the future!

>>127425308
if this album was cut by like... 3 (The Flame, B.A.D., School Daze) songs it'd be one of the best metal records from the '80s
>>41 years old
Want a real mindfuck? Shout at the Devil is gonna be 42 years old in a few months.

Flight. they're basically late 70s Wishbone Ash worship but they are ridiculously smooth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGscermYvOo

>>127425872
from the little bit i heard, it does indeed sound very '70s. this shit's right up my alley, reminded me of the little bit of Alkana's debut that I've heard

Kino album artwork like this?

>>127426602
that one of the bike cop with the mustache

>>127426706
has to be this one

>>127426763
>>127426706
>>127426602
I think this one matches the mood too. I can't tell if its a photograph or painting? Are they a mixture of both? Either way those kind of artwork are nice

>>127426834
I remember being really disappointed with that record. Not because it was necessarily bad, but because they didn't go full steam ahead with the speed metal that was on Heavy Metal Ears. Such a missed opportunity, and it would've put them at the forefront of the quickly burgeoning speed metal scene of the early-mid '80s.

We should have an faq with charts and recommendations. Trad metal is slept on by nu posers because it’s viewed as lame and overshadowed by more extreme and niche metal genres. We should change that. We have been blessed with actually good metal threads for the first time in a decade, now is our time to strike tradchuds.

>>127427171
>no deep purple in rock
>no rainbow rising
>no deep purple machine head
>absolutely zero scorpions
>no stained class
>no sad wings of destiny
>no metal church
Bad chart.

>>127427171
>>127427212
LLRNR is great but HOW does one pick it over Rising?

>>127427212
I didnt make the chart. Just chose a random one on my phone. Here’s a better one from the blog ride into glory about aggressive uspm. Also that just proves my point we should just make our own. Alot of the picks are questionable on this one.

>>127427256
>this one

I mean the previous chart not the uspm one

>>127427238
That's what I'm thinking. Rising has ZERO songs that are even remotely subpar, it's a flawless album. LLRNR is a fantastic album too, but L.A. Connection is noticeably below the rest of the record.

>>127427256
>Also that just proves my point we should just make our own. Alot of the picks are questionable on this one.
Hmm... I suppose. Someone else would have to do the chart for prog metal, though. :p

>>127427291
I agree. Though prog metal would be hard due to how it mixes with other genres. But maybe a chart on purely trad prog would be great!

>>127427291
>L.A. Connection is noticeably below the rest of the record.
Do You Close Your Eyes is pretty campy desu, but the B-side of Rising makes the album essential.

>>127425344
>hating School Daze
bruh

Master of Disaster should have been included tho, basically the original black metal song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOson6ZGNKE

I'll do the '70s chart since that's far and away my favorite era of metal.

>>127427316
Do You Close Your Eyes may be campy, but damn it! It's a really fun song and the chorus lives in my head constantly.
>but the B-side of Rising makes the album essential.
Tarot Woman alone would make Rising an essential album, it is the PERFECT beginning to a metal/rock album.

>>127427330
>basically the original black metal song
You know I laughed when you said this but upon listening to the song for a bit, I might honestly to agree. There's some blackened sound here for sure.

*have to
There is never a day where I don't fuck up a post. Never.

How's this so far? Any adjustments that should be made?

>>127427432
so 70s only?

>>127427512
I'm doing the '70s chart, yes. (And I'm only including Motorhead here because I know I'm in the minority that doesn't like their music that much)

Made a few adjustments and added the final row. I think this has the '70s essentials all set, but I'd like a few more opinions.

>>127427582
Hell bent for leather. I don’t necessarily know if it should be on there for its quality, but it was the start of the whole denim and leather era for metal so its culturally important

>>127427703
Mmm... you bring up a good point about the cultural aspect. Alright, I'll put that one in place of Rock City.

Favorite albums that turn 40 this year?

>>127428120
The Spectre Within, Hell Awaits, Love You to Pieces, and that Exciter record's a real hidden gem

Just finished the '70s chart! B)

>>127415964 (OP)
Any Symphony X fans here?

>>127428413
As in X Japan? Not sure, but I've been meaning to check out their classic output for months now. They've been on my radar for a while.

>>127428361
Great list! What are some eras/genres that you think should also be covered? I was thinking speed and uspm, but maybe also more eras, movements and decades of heavy metal would also fit. Or possibly one big list combining everything.

Oh and I thought of an idea regarding the charts. For the '80s (since that's when the vast majority of trad was released and there's so many godly albums from that decade) why not separate the charts into batches? So like you'd have one for 1980-1981, 1982-1983, 1984-1985, and so on. It makes sense from an evolutionary perspective as well, since 1982-1983 is when pretty much all of the core sub-genres were birthed/being formed and 1980-1981's metal is (for the most part) more rock-y.

>>127428489
>Great list!
Thank you!
>What are some eras/genres that you think should also be covered?
Thrash, USPM, and speed are necessities and I believe should come first. Then doom, stoner, and the movements (like the NWOBHM, NWOTHM, etc.)
>Or possibly one big list combining everything.
Hell yeah! When every single one is complete, I think it'd be a cool idea to take the best of the best from each genre and cram them all into one mega list. But we shouldn't have to worry about that for a while. =)

>>127428361
9gag tier, well done

>>127428544
I was debating using the colors from Master of Reality for the text+background but decided it wouldn't really fit for the rest of the albums there. (Might do that for a trad doom chart in the future, though...)

How well did you take his death? Personally, I laughed my ass off and sharted on my first pressing Black Sabbath s/t LP.

>>127421993
And he played the bass on all of those albums, except TUS. Ozzy never made another good record after finally parting with Daisley. A giant of a songwriter and musician.

Giving this >>127422195 album a shot right now. I'm curious whether it's melodic speed metal or the more rougher style Running Wild did on their first two LPs.

>>127428361
Chuck another row on, the Lucifer's Friend debut deserves to be there. Also depending on your criteria, the Montrose debut and Heep's Demons & Wizards too

You know guys, there is already a metal general

>>127428992
>Chuck another row on, the Lucifer's Friend debut deserves to be there
I'll try to. No idea if I'd have to redo the background, though.
>Also depending on your criteria, the Montrose debut and Heep's Demons & Wizards too
Neither of those I'd include (and Montrose's debut I'd never call essential), however I will include Look At Yourself since that one had a profound influence on the epic style of metal. (Just listen to the title track or Shadows of Grief, the influence those two songs had on bands like Mercyful Fate is undeniable.) I guess if I'm throwing in other albums, I'll include Scorpions - Lovedrive and Budgie's debut, too.

>>127429039
/metal/ sucks ass and is almost always useless for actual discussion. Additionally, this is a specialized general that doesn't accept any extreme metal.

>>127429039
/meal/ is mainly people who only listen to death and black metal

>>127429074
vince /meal/ lol

>>127429084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ElXNe6LQFs

>>127428361
Needs Riot - Rock City

>>127428120
So many incredible records here, my favorites are Love You to Pieces, Hell Awaits, Executioner's Song, and Walls of Jericho

>>127429089
I fucking love this video. The way he starts off semi-intelligible then goes almost immediately into drunken babble never fails to make me laugh.

>>127429100
Will add in the new row! It was there previously but I had to make room for Killing Machine.

Crossfire - Highway Driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MDtA1P24-4 THIS SONG IS FUCKING AWESOME

I'd never actually heard of Cloven Hoof until fairly recently. They're weird, they started as a pretty generic NWOBHM band and then by the end of the decade sounded like a proggy USPM band - lots of clear Queensryche influence on this album. Apparently their singer was one of the finalists to replace Bruce in Maiden, too.

https://youtu.be/fezyGCiS-xU?si=vQErpH9QO29ncEM1
https://youtu.be/aGhygOTmUUQ?si=GiQ_CcwYgKcdlRYa

>>127429203
Highlander is a great track of theirs and nightstalker is their best from their nwobhm era

>>127426763
Name of the girl?

A tale of two sides. Side A fucking smokes, Side B is overlong (Seriously do you really need a love ballad that's like 8 minutes long? It doesn't even go anywhere until around 6 minutes in.) and lacks much of the energy of the first half. What a shame.

>>127422991
Just listened to this yesterday for the first time. I think it's a really good mix of power metal with more thrash and speed elements. What is time is probably my favourite song on that record.

>>127428120
Hard to choose from but it's probably gonna be either Hell Awaits or Walls of Jericho

>>127429405
Nothing in the additional notes section for the album on Metallum, and a search yielded no information either.

>>127415964 (OP)
Is power metal accepted here?

>>127415964 (OP)
Any good examples of good modern trad records?

>>127421744
>Even the weakest off Bark at the Moon (You're No Different)
So Tired

>>127429501
Yes!

>>127429506
I like that one by Tailgunner, not much of a modern trad person otherwise.

>>127429546
I actually like that song. It's a charming little ballad, although for some reason on an original mix CD it has a lot of noise.

>>127429506
Visigoth - Conqueror's Oath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtc2Yn6WJQw
Angel Sword - World Fighter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dms0PctjVk
Satan's Hallow - Satan's Hallow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW58oBTuzvE
Sabire - Gates Ajar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MoVYqgOFo
Smoulder - Violent Creed of Vengeance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehddeStsmA
Aardvark - Tough Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2D_VuCKUzM
Amethyst - Throw Down the Gauntlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvkbaY7OKXc
Savage Master - Dark and Dangerous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tgzGVJ7t5E
Throne of Iron - Adventure Two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9ENF-FA50

>>127429585
holy shit that's a lot. O_o probably won't listen to any, I get tired of the pomp in EUPM very quickly and personally much prefer USPM. Early BG is also great, too. Perfect balance between thrashy aggression and melody.

>>127429506

Obligatory

>Satan - Life Sentence

>>127429506
fucking BASED beyond belief. one of the best heavy metal records in the 21 century.

let me follow it up with its ancillary that shares many members of the same band that's equally as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvjaVO4ws8

>>127429680
Excellent reminder that I need to listen to this one and stop putting it on the backburner. Will download it ASAP.

Only two and a half months!

https://youtu.be/BOpxBAeMuP8?si=W9el6rd3LSFTCLHX
https://youtu.be/vnRJ9JKEuwY?si=XxWV7uZ97g6EgWIs

>>127429746
Oh shit I downloaded this one a while ago. I remember really liking the first few songs but dropping it because I was tired at the time. :p

>>127429506
.

>>127429751
Obviously your mileage may vary with the Halloween-themed gimmick, but there's some good songs there. The vocals are pretty ordinary but I'd say the guitarist is well above average.

>>127429775
>Obviously your mileage may vary with the Halloween-themed gimmick
I'm a massive fan of Lizzy Borden and '80s horror stuff (namely F13) so that should tell you what I think about the Halloween gimmick, lol. Yeah for some reason I just never bothered to give it another shot, and just left it in a folder on my hard drive. Now I've already got the records I'm listening to today more or less lined up; but listening to DMWE is definitely in the cards for tomorrow.

Savage Grace - Sins of the Damned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLbT-WSfYk (One of the best songs I've heard all week. Fucking insane shit right here!)

>>127428992
>>127429100
Updated! Had to redo the background so I took some more time to make sure the lines were properly aligned, and I also changed the pattern slightly as well.

let me know when we're doing a more modern trad chart, i will supply it up

No doubt one of the first bands to be inspired by early Crue, and the influence is especially obvious on Star Lover and Don't Say Goodbye. As it stands, this EP's decent but outside of its kickass title track it never goes above that.

Alien - Cosmic Fantasy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aKQx74rWRA

>>127430399
Shit, you can start it right now if you want. There's nobody stopping you. :1

>>127430497
The only thing I know about this Alien is that the bass player (I think?) shot a dude in a carjacking gone wrong and spent years on death row over it. Probably explains why their EP has never been reissued.

They shared the name with an AOR band from Sweden who had some success in Europe in the late '80s.

>>127430561
Wow, I didn't expect there to be a publicity shot of the band in circulation, let alone existence considering their only release is an EP; and an obscure one at that.
>The only thing I know about this Alien is that the bass player (I think?) shot a dude in a carjacking gone wrong and spent years on death row over it.
https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Damien_%22The_Beast%22_Bardot/514604 Yup, it's listed here on his Metallum bio, and I'm sure if I wanted to dig around I could find some newspaper archives from 1986.
>Probably explains why their EP has never been reissued.
Likely the explanation, but also compound that with the band breaking up only two years after forming, and the music on the EP simply not being anything that special, and it's clear as day why it's never been reissued.

Ohhh, my mistake. That's a pub shot of the AOR band you were referring to. Alien (the metal band) does at least have ONE image in existence though (sourced from Metallum):

>>127428361
No UFO?

>>127430688
Considered but I ultimately decided not to include them. For the sole reason I don't think UFO has... any essential albums, really. They have standout songs (Doctor Doctor, Rock Bottom, Can You Roll Her, Light's Out, Love to Love, etc.) but from what I've heard of their catalogue, I wouldn't call any of them essential. Maybe Phenomenon, and I almost included it in lieu of Rock City or Budgie's debut; but I think those two records are both a lot better quality wise. Now if I were to do a chart that was something like "The Roots of Heavy Metal" they'd without question be included, though.

>>127427171
I’ve always loved TANK.
https://youtu.be/RPB4wRQZGzg?si=4tARLTRAfyfDJ0C1

>>127430733
Filth Hounds is a damn good album, one that I really should listen to more often. Definitely on the more aggressive side of the NWOBHM.

>>127430745
I do like how fast they are for NWOBHM. Algy Ward continued the aggression he had while he was in The Damned.

In the mood for some more heavy glam, so what better album to choose then one I never fucking finished! :D

>>127430779
>Algy Ward continued the aggression he had while he was in The Damned.
Can't say I've ever heard of those guys. Are they similar to TANK?

In the mood for some more heavy glam, so what better album to choose than one I never fucking finished! =D

>>127430779
>I do like how fast they are for NWOBHM.
Raven's another one of the faster NWOBHM bands, and while I'm 100% sure you've heard of both Wiped Out and All for One... have you ever checked out their return-to-form (after the disastrous The Pack Is Back, god that album fucking sucks) Life's a Bitch from '87? It's a really aggressive record, lot of killer songs on it and some surprisingly advanced songwriting at points.
>Algy Ward continued the aggression he had while he was in The Damned.
Can't say I've ever heard of those guys. Are they similar to TANK?

>>127430827
The Damned were a punk band. Algy Ward did bass and backing vocals on Machine Gun Etiquette before he left to form TANK. Lemmy also did bass on their cover of "Ballroom Blitz". It's how Algy and Lemmy became influenced by one another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gqxFAqCRYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14PKjhC9Fnk

>>127430827
You know what? This wasn't as bad as I thought it would be! While there are a few lesser cuts, there's some absolutely killer melodic metal on here. Gets surprisingly USPM-y at points too. Also goddamn, is this guy's voice pure ear candy. Here are my picks from the record:

Lion - Fatal Attraction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MQp0GjjWk
Lion - Armed and Dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUlX-fXuNt0
Lion - Never Surrender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMw_aHocMmc
Lion - Shout It Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWShRhqdRA

This was also the band that did the original Transformers theme from the '80s, and I can't really name a better band for the task. Incredible stuff, and honestly better than anything off of the original album except for Never Surrender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YetWm9zVi_M

>>127431190
>The Damned were a punk band. Algy Ward did bass and backing vocals on Machine Gun Etiquette before he left to form TANK.
I see. I don't really like punk, so I probably won't check them out. But it is nice to know a bit of history about TANK.
> Lemmy also did bass on their cover of "Ballroom Blitz". It's how Algy and Lemmy became influenced by one another.
I've never listened to the original Ballroom Blitz before, but what you did do is remind me of the godawful cover Krokus did of this song on The Blitz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CJ2TtKR4kU

>>127421877
Only just noticed this one, sorry lad. Shrapnel had a reputation for shitting out records cheaply and quickly, but Mike Varney was well liked and respected in the industry. He was the one who brought Yngwie to America and basically discovered most of the following '80s super shredders like Gilbert, Vinnie Moore, MacAlpine, Kotzen, Howe, Becker etc. via his spotlight column in Guitar Player Magazine. He and his brother also founded the Shrapnel's sister labels Tone Center Records (jazz fusion), Blues Bureau (post-SRV blues rock) and Magna Carta (prog metal).

>>127430827
>>127431225
Kal Swann was the singer in the NWOBHM band Tytan (he was a Scot who later moved to LA) and Lion's successor band Bad Moon Rising. He was also one of the singers who auditioned for Deep Purple after Gillan got fired for the second time.

https://youtu.be/5qScXtNsfQ8?si=tAGXK1HpL_wqdHxG

My primary thought when listening to that Lion stuff is wondering how the hell it took Doug Aldrich so long to get kicked up by a major band. He had a small cult following but even most people still into 80s metal had never heard of him until Dio and then Coverdale put him into the spotlight in the early 2000s.

>>127431298
>Only just noticed this one, sorry lad.
It's all good man! The thread moved a lot quicker than usual today so I can see how you missed it.
>Shrapnel had a reputation for shitting out records cheaply and quickly, but Mike Varney was well liked and respected in the industry. He was the one who brought Yngwie to America and basically discovered most of the following '80s super shredders like Gilbert, Vinnie Moore, MacAlpine, Kotzen, Howe, Becker etc. via his spotlight column in Guitar Player Magazine. He and his brother also founded the Shrapnel's sister labels Tone Center Records (jazz fusion), Blues Bureau (post-SRV blues rock) and Magna Carta (prog metal).
Ahh... yeah that clears everything up for me now. In all fairness I don't think Shrapnel albums sound "bad", per se, but the production on their output is definitely on the lower-end of the quality ladder compared to other labels.
>Kal Swann was the singer in the NWOBHM band Tytan (he was a Scot who later moved to LA) and Lion's successor band Bad Moon Rising. Tytan... I've heard about that band in passing but never gave them a shot. Maybe in the future.
>He was also one of the singers who auditioned for Deep Purple after Gillan got fired for the second time.
He should've gotten the role. Gillan's vocals got worse and worse over the '80s-'90s, and while I personally don't know why; what I do know is that his weaker vocals stick out to me every time I listen to Perfect Strangers.
>My primary thought when listening to that Lion stuff is wondering how the hell it took Doug Aldrich so long to get kicked up by a major band. He had a small cult following but even most people still into 80s metal had never heard of him until Dio and then Coverdale put him into the spotlight in the early 2000s.
You and me both. His leadwork on that record is incredible.

Goodnight everyone! =)

I CAME FROM FAR
BEYOND YOUR REALITY
THE OCEAN OF TIME, IT'S THE ODYSSEY OF MINE
I AM THE NARRATOR
AND NOW I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I'VE BEEN, AND WHAT I SAW,
AND HOW IT EEEEENNNNDSSSS

>>127428413
Yep, albums two through five are KINO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gem3FfkeLwE