Thread 127433593

What's /mu/'s thoughts on tom waits? I've been listening to bone machine and rain dogs and I think he's pretty cool.

he's pretty cool

i thought he was jay electronica at first glance

>>127433593 (OP)
Despise. Fat girl meme. Old.

>>127433635
>Fat girl meme.
what?

I used to dislike him. However I loved Goin' Out West so much that I finally listened to his entire catalog. Swordfishtrombones, Rain Dogs, Frank's Wild Years and Bone Machine are amazing, he has later some good stuff like Mule Variations and Real Gone, I don't care about his earlier stuff since it's too derivative and safe. I still think he'd be nothing without Beefheart's influence, but he's one of the best to ever do it really.

>>127433593 (OP)
I really like many of his records.

>buh buh he's fake with his gravelly voice shit
haters are insecure, nothing more. The dude makes good records, what more do you want.

>KILLERS
>THIEVES
>AND LAWYERS

>>127433593 (OP)
Eh whatever, if I don't have anything else to listen to I'l listen to his hits, maybe I should listen to one of his albums to get a better judgement.

Fedora music

Better than Nic Cave, I'll give him that

A lot worse than Nick Cave.

I love some of his albums but most of them do nothing for me. But he's cool

Who is he waiting for?

*spooky marimba plays*
*syncopated trumpet plays*
ARRUGGGGGGGGGHRURGUGRRUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGHHHHHHH

>>127436723
Nick Cave could never make songs like Goin' Out West or I Don't Wanna Grow Up.

The best thing he was involved in is Tommy the Cat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpaIVGn7Lo4&list=RDYpaIVGn7Lo4

>>127438512
sporkcore

>>127438471
based

>>127434806
Dude he's just not authentic, unlike my favorite [artist who is also clearly playing a character].

>>127433915
>I still think he'd be nothing without Beefheart's influence
He was an accomplished veteran artist well before coming under Beefheart's influence

>>127438521
Yup, that's Tom Waits for you.

>>127433593 (OP)
Wet noodles beefheart

he seems like a cringe asshole in interviews but he has some good songs.

>>127433593 (OP)
i've never listened to him but if it's equally as /mu/ as every other overrated, over-posted artist, im sure it's mediocre

>>127433915
It's funny, for years the Tom Waits cult was dominated by boomer oldheads who hated his later experimental stuff and preferred his early ballad style, while nowadays you'd be hard-pressed to find a Gen X or later fan who has even heard his 70s stuff or has any genuine respect for it if they have.

>>127438689
X'ers pushed Rain Dogs as his best era, so a generation of kids who read music blogs and p4k got into him through that. It fit pretty well into the quirky culture of the late 00s/early 10s.

>>127438689
As an Xer I prefer his early maudlin stuff. And his acting too.

Made the top one comfycore album.

>>127438938
Eggs and sausage and a side a toast
Coffee and roooll
Hashbrowns, over easy
Chili in a boooooowl
With burgers and fries what kinda pies
Yeah-

>>127433593 (OP)
The greatest.
And an underrated guitarist too. Whenever he plays guitar on a song it's so obviously him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbIi8ZiW5qI

>>127434806
I never understood people saying this outside of his very early 70s albums where he's leaning into a character a lot more. I never see people complain about someone like David Bowie for overtly doing different characters throughout his career either. Plus it's obvious that his voice has just become legitimately raspy from singing 'wrong' like that for years and years combined with smoking a lot until about 1980.

>>127438471
>Drunk piano and someone hitting a trash can with a broomstick starts playing
>There was a one armed midget sitting at the bar
>The midget had a wooden leg with a photograph in it
>That photograph was yellow because it was SO OLD
>Out of key guitar solo

>>127438938
This is such a fucking fun album. Probably my favorite album for putting on while staying inside on a rainy/snowy day. They really, really nailed the cozy atmosphere on this one.

>>127434806
>>127439026
So what does his "non fake" singing voice sound like then?

>>127439130
Jeff Buckley

I just realized I don't think I've listened to Tom Waits sober in close to a decade

>>127439130
Idk why you replied to me, I'm saying his voice isn't 'fake'. It's a weird criticism of a singer anyway since most singers put on a voice.

Unpopular opinion: Bad As Me was a great album and on-par with albums like Rain Dogs and Bone Machine. I love the higher energy and clean production. It sounds less like music from a rusted out shack or an abandoned barn than his other stuff from the past few decades and more like music from a night out on the town. It makes me sad that I hardly ever see its existence even acknowledged, I really don't get it.

>>127439130
Listen to his debut
https://tomwaits.bandcamp.com/album/closing-time-remastered

just by his association with Jim Jarmusch I consider him a talentless hack

>>127439372
Filtered, down by law is kino

Huh. He's not on here either.

>>127439228
I adore this album

>>127439543
Abbott and costello, they were always ordering pie and coffee.

>>127439228
hell broke luce is what got me into tom waits because someone compared to it to Luang Prabang by Dave Van Ronk.

>>127433593 (OP)
Make sure to also check out Swordfishtrombones

>>127438471
>>127439084
kek. accurate doe

So glad to see him getting more love around here. Frank's Wild Years is his best but I also love Big Time & >>127438938

Incredible performance here too
https://youtu.be/ArC0J94B3Xk?si=dfF3oMRYncPy_PlJ

He is reddit incarnate in one single person.

>>127435560
This but I will still listen to tom waits no matter how much reddit praises him.

I don't really care about celebrity deaths; to date the only one that really hit me hard was David Bowie.
But I don't know how I'll handle Tom Waits dying whenever he does. I don't know what it is about him, man. There isn't anyone else quite like him.

>>127440814
I don't get this frame of mind
Like the people who will say shit like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Lawrence of Arabia are the most reddit movies of all time while shit like Scott Pilgrim, Free Guy, and the entire MCU exists.

>>127440924
they're redditors that just got here and are trying to fit in by shitting on the site. there's a verified case of one schizo from /metal/ that actually had a reddit account. don't think anything more of it.

>>127440924
>S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Oops, I meant Stalker (the movie) not the game

>>127441311
Yeah. That's what I figured.

>>127438938
Yeah man I love this album so much. One of the most kino moments of my life was playing a poker game with my buddies while we spun this on the record player and got half drunk

>>127439228
Is this an unpopular opinion? I always thought this one was really solid. I started getting into his stuff right when this came out and I was like "Damn, this guy has been doing it for decades and still has good records" but then he basically retired.
Side note, there is a recent video of him playing Waltzing Matilda for some documentary on homelessness or something and for the first time I thought fuck man he looks so old. I'm probably gonna cry when Tom Waits dies

>>127433593 (OP)
I'm a Tom Waits enjoyer.

>>127438938
It feels weird that this was only his third album. He spent the whole 70s trying to nail down a particular arsthetic and testing what approaches worked, be they smoky ballads or jazz-poetry scenes, so something like this feels more like a culmination than a just step on the path.

>>127433915
Same but for me it was Hell Broke Luce and LowDown, the latter reminded me of Dr. John a lot so I instantly fell in love