Thread 127440229

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Sister thread over at /g/
>>106262617

music is my life

>>127440404
same it kinda sux being like this tho

>>127439856
thx i'm completely re-writing it xd

>>127440468
Nah I think its pretty cool you can just make some whenever.

>>127440545
no i HAVE to make it whenever

imma do it imma quit weed

>>127440700
you should quit posting instead

>>127440700
I believe in you

>>127440229 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1jF6lMM3Ps7B
https://voca.ro/1iVIJaKYENoo

Random things. Some jank, but that's fine by me

The instrument in the second one is harsh and ugly, but written with the distortion/feedback in mind so it loses its charm by changing instruments. Fun as an experiment.

>>127440724
nah
>>127440777
thanks nice digitys

https://voca.ro/12kVRRCEjUTM

>>127440700
>2025
>still smoking weed

I thought we used plugins to make our tracks louder. Does everything need to be gain matched? Why not just put a limiter on everything?

>>127440915
bro?

>>127440931
Yes? Is there a problem?

>>127440700
I had my first day of moderation smoking and I gotta say I may just stay sober. I stayed sober until about 9pm today. I bought weed at 7pm, was gonna smoke before my walk like usual but just didn't do it. I smoked heavily since I was 17. Being sober just to learn music then going back to being stoned a lot but knowing what I'm doing will make life a lot easier. Give it a try

>>127440954
What is the purpose of making your track louder?

>>127440966
So people can hear it

>>127440966
louder = better, everyone under the age of 65 knows this

>>127440966

You don’t make it louder, you make it the same volume as everybody else’s song.
That way when somebody plays a playlist of songs they are all the same volume.
There is no logic to leaving your song quieter than everybody else’s song.

>>127440954
what are you asking?

>>127441029
It isnt 2003 anymore, nobody listens to radio. Streaming platforms apply their own algorithms to every upload and most people use volume normalization. The whole idea of "competetive loudness" or "industry standard LUFS levels" is just a waste of time.

>>127440801
I liked the second one.

>>127441082
unless you're brand fucking new to making music there is no excuse to be this ignorant in current year

a song mixed "loud" does not sound the same even with "volume normalization" applied

>>127441123
>a song mixed "loud" does not sound the same even with "volume normalization" applied
Fucking hell I'm dealing with children.

>>127441197
>inb4 anon thinks we're talking about literal normalization

>>127441197
I would not be trusting that shit, just make your song the same volume as everybody else’s and don’t have to worry what some inbuilt platform preset is going to do to fuck up your song.

>>127441197
And you're the adult who thinks volume and loudness are the same thing. lmfao

>>127441205
You're the one mixing up percieved loudness and measurable loudness. The reason I asked "What is the purpose of making your track louder?" is because it seems like everyone is on a wild goose chase of -6 LUFS without really knowing why, just that they "have to" to be professional. The loudness war is over m8, died with the radio. You can make your song song percievable loud without slamming every buss into a clipper to hit -3 db average.

>>127441265
so you just asked a question to give yourself the opportunity to make a series of confidently wrong posts?
nobody cares about your stupid opinions anon

>>127441288
No I was just trying to get someone to ask themselves why they are slapping clippers and limiters on everything without really knowing why.

>>127441294
great nobody asked for you to jerk yourself off under the guise of unsolicited "help"

What is the name of that instrument that rap producers sample that sounds like a horror instrument or a choir voice? It’s almost like a high pitch organ or something

>>127441323
do you have an example?

>>127441347
https://youtu.be/djtJ3VmMEQw
the sound in the beginning

>>127441427
Just staccato choir samples.

>>127441466
>>127441427
give me a couple of minutes maybe I can whip up some choir stabs for you

>>127441427
https://vocaroo.com/14O2PZHK8qjD
I dont know if this was what you had in mind, but there ya go.

>>127441048
When i throw an insert onto the track ie a guitar track, it might become louder due to the effect of the insert. Isnt it sometimes the purpose of an insert to make things louder? Or must it always be gained matched, no matter the nature of the processing being applied?

>>127441681
Depends on what the effect is. The sole purpose of a plugin isnt to make things louder, but that things can become louder is a biproduct of what the plugin is doing to the sound. Some compressors plugins have the gain output turned up by default so just turning it on makes the track 2-3 decibels louder even if you're not applying any compression to it.

Music production isnt a numbers game. if you think the track sounds better with whatever plugin you used on it, then do so, if it's just turning it up, just use the volume knob instead.

>>127440229 (OP)
>no /dmp/ link
rude.

>>127443278
kys

>>127443375
wow, telling me to kill myself, what a great contribution you make to this website

>>127443412
That guy's a bitch.

>>127443412
crawl back to that shithole and leave /prod/ alone, we don't need to pool together our worsts posters and ruin both threads equally

DMP? That snuff film from vtmb?

From now on every buss is going through a limiter

>>127439710
>Do you know about putting things in patcher and adding controllers for last tweaked parameter?
No idea about patchers, but I'm aware of the param controller options. I just never do it. I really should try and get more involved with FL's functions to make my life easier, but the main problem is I'm a chronic procrastinator and overthinker, so I don't actually open my DAW as much as I should to practice. Pic might be handy for other FL users.

>>127443900
>im a chronic procrastinator and overthinker
We all are, that is why we prod

>>127443900
Well, basically any parameter of any plugin including synths can be given an input controller and controlled by some other element of FL studio, so if you are using a VST and are ever like "man I wish I could set an envelope to control this" or whatever it is that the VST doesn't support natively(or even if you just dont like the way the vst does it internally) you can make FL studio do it for you. You can also use it to make control knobs for parameters and either control them with any actual controller you have or use an automation clip. FL has lots of features that aren't at all intuitive to find.
>so I don't actually open my DAW as much as I should to practice
Just play just do it grab a midi keyboard and play on a pad for a couple minutes and then switch to another sound and play some more. You'll have a track before you know it.

>>127443880
>anon thinks this is an extreme move
>anons will argue about this

am I gonna get sued using hit kit v3? supposedly royalty free but includes tons of samples used in or from very popular music.

>>127444131
dont try and stop me

>>127444482
yup, they already have eyes on you simply for talking about it.

>>127444131
I don't even use limiters, i just turn the volume down.

>>127444482
>>127444818
Most commercial sample packs have their files marked with a radioactive isotope that can be used to track any song they've been used in.
It's literally inescapable.

>>127444904
>he relies on volume
I mix with everything muted based on gut feeling, experience and eyeballing all the lines in each of my monitoring and eq'ing VSTs. My templates come muted so I don't get caught up worrying too much about how it sounds as I place my midis.

>>127443620
This guy gets it
>>127443278
go away

>>127443375
>>127443423
>>127444946
Stop replying to it. It's a fucking namefag, it's practically begging you to filter it. Pic related for imbeciles that don't know how. Just fucking do it and don't interact with it at all.

>>127445002
nta but you’re right i’m going to start doing this

>inb4 my catalogs are suddenly empty but ragebait free
fuck

>buy DJ deck on a whim to mix music.
>get jewed by Rekordbox
>get jewed by soundcloud
>get jewed at literally every turn.
>decide fuck it, download Cakewalk, start producing my own shit
i think im picking up a new hobby, anons, am i going in the right direction?

>>127440700
>I'm going to make a good decision and invest in my future
I certainly hope so, anon. I certainly hope so.

>>127445236
Yeah, sell the memeJ rig and buy a used keyboard, usb interface, and a cheap bass guitar. Done.

>>127445236
>anons, am i going in the right direction?
If you're having fun, yeah, didnt even know Cakewalk existed anymore.

>find that one good kick that just works
>nice and puncy, have a decent low end, but short enough that it doesnt muddy up the low end
>slap it on everything
>glues everything together just nicely
>makes my mixes better
thank you kick

>>127445276
i'm slowly figuring it out, though i will definitely need to dig into tutorials and go from there.
im very very new to music production, borderline retarded, but im giving it a crack.

>>127445494
>borderline retarded
we're all retarded here, havent you noticed?

>>127445494
>>127445236
>chudy too stupid to figure anything out
yep, that tracks. can’t say you’ll make it far

>>127446174
>dickwad who's only talent is to layer splice loops on top of each other flaunts his misplaced sense of superiority
fucking hell you retards dont even know how to fucking torrent and have to download plugins off shady discord servers. I'm sometimes amazed you managed to figure out how to install a different audio driver without bricking your computers

i cant

>>127446818
yes you can

>>127446862
i suck

>>127446871
then suck and get better

>>127446966
:(

>>127447171
:)

>>127447183
i've listened to songs i made 3,4 years before
they sound so good
my newest shit is just kinda blergh

So I am trying to get a bass sounding like something like of "The less I know the better"
Any ideas on how to round out the sound?
https://vocaroo.com/19yQZovh1SGt

>>127441466
>>127441507
>>127441615
I wasn’t expecting that but thank you very much

>>127447818
https://youtu.be/3WmlbKoa7RI?si=25O1Qm8RMW4LCOrr&t=121

>>127447818
a metronome

https://voca.ro/14ktTin28pG8 can you guys like recommend me good cd's to experiment? since i cant make anything good at all i'll just work around with cd's. so far i got jungle warfare and the other one. genre wise i think i'd like some dnb and maybe something etheral sounding is fine but i am open to all kinds of stuff.

This is so retarded what the fuck was I thinking

https://vocaroo.com/1nlrJChcedBB

>>127449617
Now add vocals from linking park numb or crawling, just for that extra retarded

>>127438047
Yes only for a synth bass. If you’re in ableton operator, you make a bass with an octave second fundamental and using course to make upper harmonics, then you turn off the fundamental, can't do it with a recorded bass guitar

>>127450021
>can't do it with a recorded bass guitar
You can with EQ automation or multiband compressor but depending on the range of notes being played, it would be very time consuming because you have to draw up automation everytime the bassguitar change note.

If your bass guitar stays within half an octave, you can highpass it, apply some saturation and to get the harmonics out more clearly.

>>127449844
Sorry after listening to that I had to turn off the computer. I'm sure you understand.

>>127450283
we embrace retardation here
retardation is good
retardation is life

>>127450341
Mah windowlicka

>>127450429
spread that strawberry jam buddy
imma gonna lick it

>>127450096
>it would be very time consuming because you have to draw up automation everytime the bassguitar change note.
It would depend on what your sample actually was.
Like if you've got either a single note in a sampler or a multi sampled instrument VST being played by midi you could pretty easily set up keyboard zones to send higher notes to different EQs. Would require multiple instances of the sampler running but in FL studio I could probably get it together in a couple minutes. Of course I'm a silly bitch so if I were working with a single sampled note I was planning on pitch shifting around I'd put it in vital because making your filters key tracked in vital is a 1 second job.
But if you had a whole bassline sampled from somewhere else it would be pretty fiddly.

>>127450968
>Like if you've got either a single note in ..... it together in a couple minutes.
Or you can just take the sample in question, play it low, EQ out the fundamental and resample it.

I have a patch in serum just to get that low end rumble without bottoming out the lowend.
It's just a wavetable with alot of harmonics with a highpass at around 80 hz, then a sub oscilator one octave up that is routed directly out.

https://voca.ro/13P5ilqnAX55

I have no clue what to do with this track anymore. I have a lot of elements I like in it but it's just not clicking in my head. It's like I'm trying to bake a cake but all I've done is dirty dishes.

>>127452252
A couple things that stands out to me.
1. It's really sluggish, maybe increase the bpm like 10-15 bpm.

2. You've gone way overboard with the lo-fi.
If you're not going to have any high end, you need low end. If you're not going to have any low end, you need high end. Right now it just sounds like it's stuck in an eternal filter sweep because the dj nodded off, it's just all mids and doesnt sound pleasing at all. Decrease the Q (less steep slopes) on both your highcut and lowcut because it sounds like you're getting resonances at the cutoff points.

3. The bass and pizzicato is overlaping in the same register, meaning they sound dissonant because they're too close to each other, change a few notes up or down an octave so they dont meet in the middle and muddy things up.

>>127452330
Thank you anon. I threw chowdsp on it but I put zero effort into adjusting it because I was having issues with the rest. I see what you mean about the overlap I'm going to work on that now.

>>127452252
I like it. I don't know what you'd add besides vocals or like a bigger breakdown.

https://vocaroo.com/11YXXdIZ9aAO

Not the most exciting song right now, but I wonder how the mix sounds. If the kick is too boomy, low end is muddy and so on. Skip to 39 sec to skip the most boring part.

>>127452330
https://voca.ro/189lN15CPd2v
I moved the synth stuff to different octaves which did help open it up a ton. Also just took chowdsp off until I want to spend time to tune it in.

>>127452558
much better

Where do you guys put FL chan?

>>127452678
in the trashbin

So i started putting a limiter on multiple busses which yielded some decent results but im curious how much I should cut the peaks by. Is over 4db reduction too much? Ive got the release set to around 100ms for each buss with different thresholds for each group. Also input gain is tricky to figure out

>>127453591
and the purpose of this is?

>>127453591
I there a reason you can't just like listen to it and decide if you like it that way?

>>127453612
I'm experimenting
>>127453629
I want hard scientific answers

>>127453629
I fear he's been tutorial trapped. he cant do anything unless a tutorial on youtube or tiktok tells him he should do it

>>127453653
Tutorials always fall back on the "if it sounds good to you, then it's ok" which is what I dont like

>>127453642
>I'm experimenting
then why do you need us to tell you if your release times are appropriate or your gain reduction is too much. Use your ears.
>I want hard scientific answers
well you're not going to make music that way

Here's your scientific method
>does it sound like shit? Stop doing it
>does it sound good? Keep going

anything else is just a waste of time.

>>127453700
But i am an amateur and have no experience. I could think the shittest of the shit sounds good and I'd be going in the wrong direction for a very long time

>>127453642
>I want hard scientific answers
Then you're in the wrong fucking hobby.

>>127453742
There are plenty of standard practices and general rules in music production.

>>127453629
>>127453700
"just trust your ear bro" is such dogshit advice because as it turns out the vast majority of people don't have trained ears meaning they don't know what they're supposed to hear or how to identify it. but it could be applied to any production-related question and requires zero knowledge to give out so it became the default answer for idiots

>>127453732
>>127453683
>if it sounds good to you, then it's ok" which is what I dont like
Because you're rarely if ever going to find yourself in a situation where on set of rules will apply to another. One set of compression parameters will sound good on one song, but completely trash on another because the source is completely different. Some drums need compression, some dont. Some bass needs EQ, some dont. Some vocals needs reverb, some dont. You're not going to 'Do A-B-C-D' your way to a good song or good mix, every song and mix requires slightly or completely different approaches.

>But i am an amateur and have no experience. I could think the shittest of the shit sounds good
ear training and experience. This isnt math. You cant read a book on music theory and start farting out symphonies. It takes years of practice and failure. There isnt any shortcut to this.

>>127453751
>standard practices
Are not hard scientific answers.

>>127454083
My point still stands, I am not after the cliche "use your ears" answer because my progress is slow and I need direction

>>127454217
>because my progress is slow and I need direction
Well my advice would be to focus your attention on some other part of the music production process.

>>127452678
learn how to make your own custom animations

>>127453591
> Is over 4db reduction too much?
constantly? yes
volume match your before and after- is it better or just louder?

if it’s just momentary, that much gain reduction means you need to be looking earlier in the chain: can you saturate or clip something to avoid that (in a way that actually sounds good)? what’s overlapping? is it just a transient or is it your arrangement.

classic advice is 1-2 db

even if your aren’t going for BIG LUFS all of this is shit that you should be paying attention to if you want your mix to be MLG PR0

that said… pro-l 2 (and other limiters, if i’m taking a wild guess since it’s been years) has a “clipping stage” before hitting limiting, and others do a saturation thing, which is why people who know what they’re doing may drive their limiters much harder. absurdly.
using saturation as a mix tool in conjunction with limiting is best imo, but that is a whole other discussion

good morning me :( [2020]

https://vocaroo.com/14Fhwwyjy6uU

i think i’ll wait to release like 3-5 projects in very different genres and see which one(s) get any sort of response to decide what i’ll start working on next year

>>127455684
Are you saying that's something you made in 2020 or or you just being weird? Also, is that Vital being used for the lead? Something about it sounds Vital-like.

>>127455789
>or or

>>127455789
>or you just being weird?
8(

it is a song from 2020. i re-leveled and very slightly adjusted the MIDI.
the lead is massive x actually. originally it was pigments, but i don't fw that anymore so i did another patch that emphasized the filter in a similar way. (massive x croak is actually insane)

... i don't really think of vital as having a particular sound honestly (i mean that in a bad way), outside of a very few specific types of sounds.

https://vocaroo.com/1iCSq2A2TTQN

i just couldn't sleep earlier and listened to this by chance and felt like messing with it eh

you know that sound?
when you have a grain delay with pitch going up inside the feedback loop?
i hate that sound.
don't do that.

>>127455931
Sounds too technical for me to do anyway.

>>127455855
>i don't really think of vital as having a particular sound honestly (i mean that in a bad way), outside of a very few specific types of sounds.
I'm learning Vital at the moment and it's the first time I'm properly giving a synth a chance, so I don't feel strongly about it either way, but why is that a bad thing? I'm interpreting that as you saying it has no personality or character to make it stand out, but at the same time it just doesn't sound bad to me at all. What gives Massive the character that Vital's msising that would make you choose one over the other?

>>127455945
good. if you ever do it by accident, stop immediately.

>>127455951
Vital can do anything if you can dream it.

>>127456036
Good night then, bro, I'm off to cook up some amazing patches.

>>127455951
>but why is that a bad thing? I'm interpreting that as you saying it has no personality
it's merely preference, and yes... kind of.

when i refer to a synth as having "character," or having personality, or being inspiring etc, i'm referring to either a quirk or something that, on paper would be regarded as a shortcoming, that works with your intuition and tells you what sounds best on a synth.
-when people are fiddling with a filter and they talk about a "sweetspot" - it's that kind of thing but applied in other places.
some synths just sound good with there parameters set in a wide range of spots, which isn't a bad thing, but it doesn't "speak" to me or tell me what to do.
in that regard: i would call vital fairly clean (not as clean as serum though, for example).
there are, however, a lot of random intangibles about serum that i do find extremely inspiring though, and that's why it contributes to at least like half my sounds on an average project.


vital has plenty of quirks

>>127456198
>a lot of random intangibles about serum
i meant vital, mb
i don't even have serum installed right now

captcha: k0rg2

>>127456135
Sleep right pupducer

>>127456198
I have, my hand to god, paid money for a vital preset pack because I wanted to figure out how he was making it do that shit.

... what?

if you're new or don't want to learn sound design i kind of get it, but vital is pretty straight forward.

>>127456384
>>127456371
sry

so anyway ya

software update https://vocaroo.com/1oBtUJpNFgyW
tossing https://vocaroo.com/12HHLv4hpmNA

drink deep and listen to my lord and savior YEULE while thinking about her

Major keys. What are they for? House music, perhaps

>>127456198
>it's merely preference
fair enough
>>127456371
I haven't flat out paid for packs as such, but I did pay for whatever the version above free is after using it for a bit, just cause I wanted to support the devs. It comes with some extra presets and wavetables and some are decent.

My mixes are thin and things sound kind of disconnected. I think my drums and bass are the big issues. I can never quite fit them in a mix, they always sound tacked on. Plus the drums sound flat and lifeless, no low end. Maybe I should experimenting with different drum plugins

>>127457324
>Maybe I should experimenting with different drum plugins
no that’s a sound selection issue

pirated fl studio and tried to make something

https://vocaroo.com/1ezRHptKRaRW

cool kick
https://vocaroo.com/1nw9CzmGsHbd

https://vocaroo.com/1bgQZC4UdHod

this is the best thing ive made in weeks
i think its time i start applying for gas station jobs

>>127458511
i like it. reminds me of witch house but futuristic

>>127458511
i like it, transition is neat

I’m making the soundtrack for my game but have ran into an issue when writing the lead melody of a piece where my brain tends to ‘autocorrect’ to a melody of another song. Sometimes it’s when I use chord progressions used in songs from other games, sometimes it’s when using unique progressions, but I’ll write one of two notes down and my mind will just start to think of or write the melody to another song. I can write the drums, bass, chords, etc all without issue but the main melody is where I really struggle. Has anyone had the same problem?

>>127450968
We’re talking about bass here, unless you’re Jacob Pistorius there’ll only be a few very low notes to worry about, you could just do a high pass over the bass track and exclude what you want, to eq key one each note is absurd

might blast your sub i dont have one LOL
https://vocaroo.com/1lcP6eAUv0KH

>>127458511
It's not great overall, multiple elements don't quite work due to the poor mix. The vocal especially doesn't suit it at all, it's slightly off key and needs more work to blend in properly with the rest of it. . Keep making shit, though, you will get better. Also, definitely get a job regardless.

https://vocaroo.com/1d7RrtEdosh3

do i have what it takes?

>>127459630
>https://vocaroo.com/1lcP6eAUv0KH
i actually like it. overall the sounds fit together nicely. i like the melody and the mix. for the development maybe you could put some high pitched reverbed snare 4/4 on top so that it goes khhhh khhh khhh khhh but maybe that would make it too acid-y and would change the sound >>127459541
>https://vocaroo.com/1iZlqXrwBeup
i like it. make it a full track
>>127458511
>https://vocaroo.com/1bgQZC4UdHod
i have to say i do like it. its interesting and catchy
the second part of vocal, i guess it says falling or whatever, maybe you could pitch correct that one

>>127460770
me

>>127460770
To make messy diarrhea sounds no one would listen to? Well, you can rest easy tonight, kid. You definitely got it.

any thoughts on this mix?: https://voca.ro/1aooTK9BLYmJ

>>127462620
Not certain what you're trying to achieve or what genre this is (Noise? Kinda reminds me of Dying In A Minor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwEQ47SJw3I&

If ear grating is what you're going for, good job. If you want anyone to actually listen to it for anymore than 3 seconds, you have some EQ'ing to do.

I'd do something like pic related to make it endurable because rigth now it's like listening to white noise getting blasted into my ears.
If you're going for that washed out wall of noise, you should look up Pink Noise Mixing to learn how to balance the mix accordingly.

>>127462707
>like pic related
whops, sorry

high pass filters or low shelves?

>>127462848
like everything else, depends on what you're using them for

>>127462865
>I want hard scientific answers

>>127462886
YES NOW GIVE THEM TO ME

>>127462918
It is all relative

>>127462848
Why not simply choose a sound that doesn't have unwanted frequencies?

>>127462948
i dont want to deal with quantum reality anymore, it is too difficult.

>>127462956
Sometimes you make your own sounds and shit needs some work, I know, it's a novel concept, but back in the day, we used to ridicule kids who used presets in massive and sylenth, now they dont even use soft synths, they just drag and drop premade loops from construction kits

>>127462956
i use acoustic instruments

>>127463070
Simply remove the offending harmonics from the wavetable.

>>127463136
>assuming I use static wavetables
lemme just go through all 127 wavetable positions and edit out 1 harmonic instead of just slapping a highshelf on it
>but muh phase
unless it's audible, dont give a fuck

>>127463127
Acoustic instruments are just presents and therefore for hacks and babies.

>>127463207
i believe you

>>127462848
Whichever is closer.

>>127463312
what does that mean?

>>127463184
resample your tables dude jfc

>>127463355
Just click whatever is closer to the mouse its all the same.

>>127463381
thanks! it worked :)

>>127440886
Weed is this generations ritalen

>>127463382
You're welcome bro. Don't let yourself be your own worst enemy. Just do it, and if you think it could be better, then do it better next time.

im sick of gain staging like an autistic fuck and my mix buss is begins to redline almost immediately after everything is recorded. what the hell am i supposed to do? im always chasing my tail

You know for a long time I thought the "HERE WE GO" line in "Hey Boys Hey Girls" was sampled from that old Dominos Pizza Hatsune Miku video... but I guess the timelines don't line up, so it can't be...
https://youtu.be/tpKCqp9CALQ
https://youtu.be/yPuI4l0jK7s skip to 1:50

>>127464062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vv_LwwwpmU
You couldnt even fucking google it?

>>127464494
Honestly, once I realized it wasn't the Dominos video, I didn't to know, and now you've ruined that for me, thanks

>>127464929
then why did you post it then you attention whoring little shit?

i dont even know what im trying to do anymore

>>127464979
then stop trying and just do

>>127465002
i dont know how

>>127464968
Idk, I thought it was kind of funny in my head, I'm sorry

>>127465038
nah, sorry dude, if it was a joke, then it went over my head. Im too damaged from all the coniving and attention whoring schizos who kept shitting up this general with incendiary posting for years.

>>127465087
Well it was kind of a joke. I really did think it might have been sample from that Dominos video... until I looked up the original release date and then I thought it was a little funny how wrong I was.

>>127464979
So just pick a thing or I'll pick something for you

https://vocaroo.com/1cqk4wyKzl91

>house

Enjoy lads. I’ve worked hard on this and still have some mixing to do. The solo at the end is too loud. Let me know about what else you hear

>>127465321
Headlights on.

>>127460770
music is subjective, I dig what your doing

>>127465550
thanks mate, means a lot
but yes, music is subjective. i make music that i like and its great when someone else like it
i do plan on making some more accessible pleasant sounding ambient music though, maybe even right now

You bounce audio files
I bounce midi files

>>127465741
you still can't sing tho

>>127465321
>https://vocaroo.com/1cqk4wyKzl91
>worked hard on this
anon I could finger drum and get a chimp to mumble better noises on top than this

>>127465753
;_;
https://youtu.be/1nErHr0L72Q?si=1jJ55bfyHaHvJsVt

mastering.com have the best videos on mixing

>>127465891
I just take the laptop to the car, plug it in to the speakers, and fiddle with it until it sounds right.

>>127465894
not a bad idea

it makes no sense why there are so many meters to analyse the volume of the audio. the peak meter in a daw actually seems fucking useless when considering gain and input levels. why do we even use faders? output is going to be determined by the input anyway

>>127465848
still can't rap tho

>>127465898
My workflow is a machine that turns korg synthesizers in to comfy drives, might as well mix for my car speakers specifically.
https://voca.ro/1hfStIdBYsL2

>>127465891
mixing is for pseuds

>>127467032
?????????

im quint-tracking my guitars now

i worry a lot that ill use all of my main melody ideas and creative juices early and everything i make will be either recycled or just plain bad
is this normal?

>>127467836
>is this normal?
Probably not.

>>127465771
Post something then bitch

>>127465771
Got any actual criticism or are you just lashing out about your own lack of music

>>127460770
It’s cool man. Reminds of old aphex twin. Don’t listen to the dickhead who responded to you lol

>>127468386
crying won’t make you any less shit chuddy

>>127468436
I accept your admission

im tempted to post my latest efforts but i dont think im gonna do it because i know my mix sucks and my song sucks and i wont be able to handle the bullying

>>127467667
what does it sound like?

>>127468748
pretty cool, nice and full. its a shame i suck at mixing

>>127468753
post voc

>>127468696
Man I’ll check it out. I’ve been trying to bring some positivity to these threads

>>127468758
>>127468759
why not then
https://vocaroo.com/1niWguuhq3tU
you'll have to excuse the composition, i was trying to test out the gain staging. im more concerned about how the mix sounds

>>127468696
don't care what these other soft tards have to say, you still deserve bullying for blog posting about being too much of a faggot to post a WIP.

>>127468780
you're right

>>127468776
Yeah man I’ll let more educated anons give you pointers on the mixing but overall I think it sounds cool as hell. The guitar sounds almost like the audio is compressed and it kinda sounds bad at times but idk how to fix that or if it’s intentional. Don’t be gay next time and just post it. Keep it up dude

>>127467667
>>127468776
first listen thoughts:
>cool snare tone
>where's the bass?
>0:15 weird "suction" hapening during the fill, possibly overcompressed drum bus?
>guitar tones seem a bit washy, possible phase issue?
>nice energy at the 1 minute mark
>ride is a bit loud
>finally I can hear the bass a little
>after 2 and a half minutes, that same snare hit the entire song is a annoying
overall, the song is cool, I like it.
The mix does suck though.
Hard to say for sure, but the impression I get is that you're overcompressing, those drums are being squashed pretty hard. There's also too much delay being used on some of the guitar parts and thr whole mix feels too reverby. What does your processing chain look like? Are you squashing everything under a mix bus / master compressor or something? as it kinda sounds that way too.

>>127468875
>>127468890
Appreciate the feedback, I'll revisit it tomorrow and have another play around

https://voca.ro/18bzr0OPcEeD

Removed all of the synth and replaced with real instruments which helped a lot. I need to redo the drums and I'm not set on the low end brass but I feel like the song is taking shape now.

>>127445236
use mixxx for the DJ deck

>>127469335
I don't like it
It sounded better before

>>127469528
Noted, thanks anon.

>>127466251
Dude this made my morning. Absolutely lovely. Thank you for posting anon

today i'm going to JustStopBeingDepressedBro and start making music again!
like real shit! with effort!
within... an hour...

>>127469841
Have you started yet?

>>127470322
i have one round left in this tourney just gotta cop the dub and hit the no life rank real quick AND THEN

>>127470412
Alright but after that no more excuses, okay?

>>127470438
nah i'm gonna take a nap for 6 hours now

>>127470438
i'm stepping away from a winning streak for ts

if whatever i make over the next 1-4 hours isn't good i'm blaming you

>>127469335
This is a sweet little groove man. The piano sounds a little too MIDI when it’s isolated at the beginning but once things take shape it’s really really nice

>>127470523
You won't do shit
(because it's going to be good)

>>127469335
the virtual bass sounds really bad, as does the piano. The drums are nice. The synth brass sound is too dry (put a bit of reverb on that or something). Please try a more realistic sounding bass/piano VST. An electric piano (like a rhodes or wurli type sound) might work better with the downtempo/lofi vibe.

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez nuts
https://vocaroo.com/1iEe6lnpdvQJ

>>127471140
needs some gainz

>>127470834
okay it wasn’t good but i scratched off a couple lines of my to do list with that so that’s… something. thanks. back to sleep zzz

>>127471440
Better than nothing. Keep it up when you wake up!

i touch my speakercone and if the bass is not tingling my fingertips it is not good

https://litter.catbox.moe/w5v7s2.mp3
wtdb b7 IS mix 2
is there too much bass? lol
i know its really shit, but i like the blown out bass

why do yall use vocaroo, everytime i want to hear other people's stuff they post, its gone!
surely this isnt the best way to do this right?

>>127440970
>>127440973
LMAO

>>127441029
>same volume as everybody else's song
if your song is better AND louder, thats better than better but same volume as everything else
dont try to go for mediocre and "standard"

>>127472106
not listening to that
post vocaroo.

>>127457954
That's nothing.
https://vocaroo.com/13OMMNxc6b8c

>>127470817
I appreciate it. The piano is midi for now but once I finalize what I like I'll record the actual thing.

>>127470957
It's not a virtual bass, it's a quick recording I did of me playing. Piano is a placeholder for now, just easier to run it as midi while I see what I like before I commit especially for a part that started as synth.

i found out why vocaroo didnt work. im a retard

>>127471140
synth trancey. pretty generic tho. that hardstyle kick is pretty obnoxious too
a little more light on the rythm synths, a little more flow and atmosphere, a little less robotic sound and rhythm
okay sounds, could be better, maybe more reverb, effects, better mixing

>>127469335
virtual instrument sounds are a little rough, but this is really coherent and put together. it sounds a little bit like the minecraft soundtrack, specifically Stal. (C418)
nice bassline and piano melody. very good i like it

>>127468776
i wish i could good sounding shit like this.
that snare is pretty bad tho...
the guitar could be much better. but this is good shit! that shredding sounds like it has potential, but yeah that mix really needs to be way cleaner.
you only have a bass, guitar, and drums, it shouldnt be that hard to get a simple clean mix
anyway, its pretty damn good!

>>127466251
nice windows 98 synth sounds soft synth jazz
could easily see this as a japanese citypop mac demarco type beat
best stuff so far, especially since you really know your harmony and composition, and with limited synth sounds. best stuff so far!

>>127472117
i finally got it to work :)
https://vocaroo.com/1dDrLqwHnSvX
inspired by ken carson

>>127472277
I don't like the bass tone then, I was convinced it was a VST. It sounds too thin.

https://vocaroo.com/13cTUjpBLXJc when i get over the guilt of using samples i can make something as a beginner. but it really bothers me ngl i can make chorus' and melodies but i never feel like i am making anything. i guess i will never be able to release my songs anywhere

>>127465321
IS THIS A FUCKING DANNY BROWN REMIX LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this is way too funny holy fucking lmao
I cannot believe you had the gall to unironically post this wtf this is so awful! i cant stop laughing!
NEVER COOK AGAIN!

>>127462620
make some more shit like this! this is some good shit!
post rock + noise + arena rock
it reminds me of M83, Have A Nice Life,
This is very good! please continue making music! great use of walls of noise, reverse effects. just superb!
dont listen to that other guy

>>127460770
that australian ambiance is fuckin annoying
the first synth part or whatever that is, sounds like Clair de lune by Flight Facilities. its okay but it doesnt do much
the second part is fine too.
overall, pretty boring track, could be better, that fucking noise needs to go tho

>>127472450
breakbeat/core/breakwhatever is trash
sounds like aphex twin, not in a good way
whats up with the mix? terrible quality!

>>127459541
generic house synth trance whatever trash
nope

>>127458511
could have potential as a cloud rap, sigilkore, hyperpop, instrumental rap beat. some shit like that. its very unique but needs polishing
keep doing what you are doing :)

>>127457412
everyones first song sucks. keep trying

>>127456530
you are the most qualified producer in this thread so far
i am sorry for even trying.
literally the best thing in this thread so far
holy shit the dubstep complexcore to ambient noise outro in the first song is dope!
second song sounds like 2hollis little bit.
you complexcore producers are fucking crazy.
i wish i was as good as you lol. best thing in this thread for sure

>>127455855
has potential. sounds like something i would make. its okay. that synth in the back needs some more definition. that bass part is pretty cool. the drums are pretty generic but whatever
pretty nice! it gets better through the song
minecraft sounding melody interesting
>>127472106
please review my song please

>>127472342
woops i meant this one

>>127472679
i dont do mixing because well i dont know how to. besides that interesting i never thought aphex twin at all. i should learn mixing but i dont see the point when i cant even finish the songs at all

>>127469779
>>127472319
Thanks bros. I've been real fucking sick with the flu, so I've been sitting in bed writing smooth jazz
.>>127457412
You didn't try to make something anon, you did make something.
Now you just need to make the rest of it. >>127472342
I listened to this on earbuds so I can't comment much on mixing, so take it for what it's worth. I like the distorted sound of the chords, their cool sound goes "hey look at me!", but I think they are too repetitive for how much attention they are commanding. If you are making them with a synth you could easily just make a second sequence that keeps the rhythm but is a variation on the harmony and alternate between the two sets. It will give the listener twice as long before they get bored of the sound.
Also I wish the bass was sort of pluckier. I remember listening to some stoner metal with this fat bass pluck sort of cutting through the distorted guitars, if you know the kind I mean. The bass has kind of a cool groove going on, i feel like it should sort of take ownership of the song a bit more and just sort of play like it's the melody instrument. A second chord sequence would give the bass a chance to play an altered melody as well or a really fucking sweet turnaround or something.

>>127463548
Put a utility plug in at the start which turns it down in volume

>>127473840
i'd prefer to get it right at the source

>>127472469
I’m happy with it. Any actual criticism? Can you share some of your music?

>>127472106
>why do yall use vocaroo, everytime i want to hear other people's stuff they post, its gone!
>surely this isnt the best way to do this right?
I think for the particular combination of shy nerds, oversensitive dweebs, and schizos we have here the temporary nature of vocaroo is a selling point.

>>127474113
>I think for the particular combination of shy nerds, oversensitive dweebs, and schizos we have here the temporary nature of vocaroo is a selling point.
its half this and takes away the prospects of artists coming in here and shilling/plugging their music and selling shit. the best thing about this thread is the music posted is purely for educational purposes, there's no commercial aspect.

>>127472679
Oh okay so you’re an over opinionated fag who doesn’t even like electronic music. Opinion discarded.

>>127472106
Where’s the song? Sounds like a 2000s cell phone ringtone made by a monkey

>>127472106
>https://litter.catbox.moe/w5v7s2.mp3
you might like blown out bass but its not very pleasant to listen to. it would work better without the clipping

>>127462620
The mix is not great but you’ve got a really fucking cool sound coming together dude

>>127462620
its clipping too much but its a nice song

i revised the stoner track i was working on last night. went back to the drawing board and tried to fix some things based on the feedback i received in the thread.
https://vocaroo.com/1d5TkokDa7v6

>>127440801
sounds good
the loop loops itself a bit too much to the point it becomes a bit repetitive
but overall its great, sounds like vidya music very quirky

>>127474668
Sounds cool, man. The intro I think is a little repetitive and could use some trimming but once things get going it’s fuckin sweet. Thanks for posting dude. You’re a good guitarist

>>127474668
Haven't given feedback on this song before.

Turn the drum volume down, high shelf or low pass the drums, maybe more saturation to roll off highs. They sound way too pristine and drum VST-like. Scoop out snare frequencies so it's not fighting with the guitars and bass guitar. The ride pokes way too much through the mix, turn that down and pan it to the side.

Listen closely to a reference track or find reference tracks. The drums are probably much quieter than you think and should slot in around the guitars. Drums take up way too much headroom in your mix that the guitars could be taking up. It sounds like there's no low end in the bass and low mid regions so take off those high passes if you had any there and find some bass. It's fine to have some rumble down low and below 40hz (you can throw a DC filter in somewhere later).

Check the relative levels of drums in tracks like this. You can only really make one element BIG at a time which means the other elements have to duck down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-MSfd2S7lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ktgZz-EYQ (every song on this album is mixed a bit different but this is on the more extreme end of ducking down the drums for big guitar sounds from what I remember)

>>127474123
Right, I forget that there are people here who want it to be their career.

is this tread always this dead or is it bc of the hours?

>>127456530
Very, VERY fucking cool anon. Please keep posting in these threads

>>127475272
It’s a slow board. I like it this way desu.

>>127475222
they have shill threads for that

https://voca.ro/1c209eBWD3hI

Removed reverb that was fucking up most of the tracks. Changed piano to an electric piano. Put one of the synth tracks back in. Bass needs to be re-recorded for a cleaner run and I still haven't tackled drums yet. Going to let it stay like this for a bit and come at in the morning with fresh ears.

>>127473679
thanks for the criticism
>>127474113
litterbox is just as temporary as vocaroo?
>>127474195
i like electronic music, your just an idiot.
and why are you mad that i offered my opinions? this is a thread for production, criticism, advice, etc.
>>127474504
the bass is so loud it naturally clips in my speakers, but if i turn down the bass, it doesnt sound as good, so i just leave it like that
entire genres are built around the effect of bass distortion, so i know theres an audience thatll listen to it, unlike what you believe

>>127474668
damn, this is a solid quality rock song for your strata. i could totally see this being played on the radio if it had some vocals. the mix is much better, so much better its amazing! it could still be better, but its good!
rock on!

>>127475642
it literally sounds worse....

>>127475692
Which part?

>>127475701
the background piano parts
it went from open and nice souding, to closed off weird muddy

>>127475642
>Changed piano to an electric piano
Ought to have made it a rhodes, senpai. Honestly there's so much about this that confuses me. There's not really anything specifically wrong with the composition but every single sound is off to me. It's like one of those "recreate a video game cover with stock art" threads. The image is recognisable but made out of the wrong elements. Everything sounds like it's being played in a completely separate song.

>>127475722
Noted thanks

>>127475794
This is how I feel still. Going to just get some distance from it and see if I can make sense of what I’m even aiming for and what to scrap / fix

it's so hard to hear the reverb i apply in my tracks with my headphones but when i mixdown and listen on my phone the reverb is very obvious and way too loud, mostly the room reverb. sounds like very early reflections which leaves behind an odd digital trail. doesn't sound good

>>127475843
I know that feeling anon. Sometimes it’s best to just move onto something new. Don’t feel like you’re invested. It’s supposed to be fun and when your skills improve and the ideas are flowing it will come naturally

>>127475843
Put a filter or something on the drums to take off the high frequencies, they are playing a sort of downtempo rhythm but their sound doesnt match their attitude. Lower the velocity on the piano, lead fingers are no good, E Piano patches usually add brighter harmonics the harder you play, if the song is mellow then playing softer isn't just about the volume. You wanna be chill then play chill. You can turn the volume back up once the sound is right.
Something you can try is put everything through the one reverb or convolver, it helps make the elements sound like they are in the same space.

>>127476173
Thanks anon, production is actually my break from my normal music pursuits so it’s still fun even if it’s a challenge.

>>127476384
The drums are a drop in track that are going for sure I just haven’t sat down and made my own yet. I’ve ignored them for now but yeah they don’t fit. Great advice on the rest. The e-piano is just drag and drop midi right now. My first day off in awhile is tomorrow so I’m going to lower my keyboard (it’s on a pulley in the garage) tomorrow and delve deeper on a few different projects.

im sick of selling my wage labour and neglecting my music production. how do i start mixing for others and making money from it? do i start whoring myself on facebook?

https://vocaroo.com/1o2UtWow7Moy

would you rave to this?

>>127476747
i would

>>127476747
superior 9mm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMinvmbkFAU

>>127476863
i'm not worthy to even bask in this light

>>127476863
i liked the vocaroo better

>>127476903
you the best anon <3

>>127472753
>>127472342
i fuck with all the opium stuff too man shit's dope

the bass does hit the distortion *a little* too hard at some moments but overall i definitely think it's a cool tune- i really like the harmony :)

>>127476747
what even goes through your head to make this

>>127477366
Undiagnosed ADHD and caffeine

But for real, I like working out to neo rave / hardcore, so its just copying artists I fuck with ...and tweaking serum fm feedback knobs

i thought my ambient project was done but then one single track sticks out (bad) but i hear what it's supposed to do with the guitar but it's going to ruin the whole flow of everything and now i'm sad and i haven't even touched a guitar in months fuck

>>127477366
Did you listen to it? It sounds cool as fuck. I hope anon can provide some insight on how he did it, im keen to explore some different genres

>>127476747
yes

NEW AGE BUMP!
https://voca.ro/1hCub7T2TfkV
So
1. Are the drums loud enough I always feel like my drums aren't loud enough
2. Is the alternating panning thing right at the end too much? It is supposed to feel kind of intense but not annoying.

>>127475642
>https://voca.ro/1c209eBWD3hI
for fucks sake, PLEASE just download spitfire and use their free pianos, they have a few options and they would sound infinitely better than whatever the fuck you are currently using. The decay/sustain on whatever you are using is fucked and it sounds shit and cheap and completely dry and out of place regardless. Re-record the bass track as well, you have audible mistakes in there and the tone is not the best. Sounds like basic, dry Boo Bass rather than an actual bass being played. Not sure if you have even bothered mixing it at all, but maybe look up all the usual stuff you might do for a bass recording to make it fit and sound better in your track.

>>127475667
You didn’t criticize anything kek and I was mad until I heard the shit you uploaded now I’m just laughing at you

>>127479867
>Are the drums loud enough
They are kind of muted/muffled, but not unclear (both on my headphones nad speakers), assuming this was a stylistic choice so they don't ruin the ambience too much.
>Is the alternating panning thing right at the end too much? It is supposed to feel kind of intense but not annoying.
Sounds fine on my headphones. I think stuff like this can be annoying, but it doesn't last very long and the panning pattern isn't overly busy.
Pretty good overall. Main criticisms would be that it's too long and the main melodies are a little uninteresting/basic.

>>127480010
>that it's too long and the main melodies are a little uninteresting/basic.
When I started, it was intended to be an ambient track, but I can see how it might have entered a weird shadow zone of too much going on for ambient and not enough going on for not ambient.
Thanks bro.

>>127479867
I reeeeally fuck w this. Reminds me of old simcity music and in a very good way. I think the intro is a little corny and unnecessary but once things get going it’s gorgeous.

1)personally idk about the compressed sounding drums but they’re a good volume.

2) not at all annoying. Cool as hell all around thanks for posting anon

>>127476747
Fuck yeah dude shit is nice

>>127479867
What the other anon said. I can myself terraforming and building highway networks on simcity 4. Very nice

>feel my drums aren't good enough
>spend a lot of time focusing on making great drums
>completely forget how to make everything else
god it sucks to be retarded

>>127476903
100% anons shit went hard as hell and actually made me dance a little. That’s why I love these threads

New thread
>>127480203
>>127480203
>>127480203

>>127480153
For me drums and bass are the hardest thing to get right. It’s hard as hell to vary them up without fucking up a good thing. If you feel frustrated try just starting up something new. The biggest help I’ve had so far is learning to just drop something and move on. The sunk cost bullshit can drive you crazy. You can always come back to it when you learn some shit or have fresh ears

>>127480211
Isnt that called "giving up"?

>>127480223
Yeah and there’s nothing wrong with that at all. If you can move on and make a good song who cares? Better than banging your head against the wall with something that’s not working. It’s a fine line - when to persevere and learn how to overcome something vs just jamming a square peg into a round hole and making yourself miserable.

>>127465928
Get a VU meter plugin, calibrate 0 to -18 db and put it on your master. Decide which track you want to be the loudest, e.g. vocals, and make it consistently close to 0 without going over. VU meters make the most sense.