Thread 127451415

Why does nobody know how to describe what they like or dislike about music anymore?

>>127451415 (OP)
haha OP I love froggo XD

>>127451415 (OP)
why would i need to describe it?

>>127451439
Because if someone plays a song for you and you say it's trash you should be able to back up that statement. Or vice versa.

dunno lol

>>127451453
>yeah bro it uhhh just sounds like shit
There. Done.

>>127451415 (OP)
i dont eant to use my brain I want to masturbate and do crack

>>127451544
that doesn't mean anything

>>127451415 (OP)
the shit I like is for cool guys
the shit I don't like is for fags

>>127451453
i wouldn't say it was trash, i would just say it's not my thing but you do you bro, 'nough said. not everything needs to be a debate

>>127451415 (OP)
because the people you talk to and/or witness are retarded. find people that actually know how to discuss your interests the same way you do

>>127451415 (OP)
Often it's hard to describe and there's little external incentive for it, cause most people are confined to a superficial experience. And that doesn't only apply to music.
That said, it's still worth it to put the fine details into words.

>>127451415 (OP)
The average person has no musical vocabulary whatsoever and thinks that “watery synths” and “trap-influenced hi hats” are adequate descriptors for analysis and critique.

sound good = me like

>>127451866
I can assure you OP doesn't know either. He just wants to be entertained for free.

>>127451415 (OP)
Because music is the dumbest art form and music criticism is gay. Anything that goes beyond "it's good" or "shit's lame" is retarded

>>127451415 (OP)
the melody is good :)

>>127452652
Then what are ya doing here nigguh

>>127452774
I just like to shitpost

>>127451415 (OP)
that's what music critics do. they do a deep dive into why they like or dislike a piece. perhaps you have heard of them? they've been around since the Stone Age. The first guy who didn't quite like the way another guy was beating on a hollow log, and the guy beating on the log murdered him and everyone in the tribe was happy about that.

>>127451978
based needledrop being honest.

>>127451978
>This is the top music critic in 2025
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>127452828
you are everything wrong with this doggone country

>>127452914
Which country? I'm Indian.

>>127451415 (OP)
Maybe people finally realized that trying to convince everyone that they have better emotional responses to sound frequencies is pretentious faggotry

>>127453048
either autistic or a paychopath

>>127452662
That's exactly how I explain it, kek.

i'm not writing a report for my college freshman english composition/music writing class and 4chan isn't an accredited university

>>127452189
this

>>127451415 (OP)
they cant describe it because they’ve never thought about it. they’ve never thought about it because they don’t choose it, The Algorithm handles all that for them .

>>127451415 (OP)
I dunno probably because the era of caring about something enough to form an opinion has passed and we are now at protocol zero which entails regurgitating everything you are told

>>127456301
You're right
4chan is far more educational

>>127451453
>and you say it's trash you should be able to back up that statement

Exactly that’s when I start pulling out my citations, sources and peer reviewed

>>127451415 (OP)
Because everything I like is based and everything you like is reddit

>>127451415 (OP)
They diet have the music vocab

>>127451415 (OP)
Everyone has the verbal IQ of a frog (except me).

>>127451415 (OP)
Because everybody is fucking retarded and illiterate, dumbfuck. Nobody knows how to even read music.

>>127451415 (OP)
>Why does nobody know how to describe what they like or dislike about music anymore?
What's the point of the conversation most of the time? Let's say you put the time into giving very detailed and specific reasons for why you dislike something. Generally speaking, on forums like this one, you'll get entrenched responses from people who can't be persuaded because they've invested too much of their gay little personality into liking it, or you'll be preaching to the choir. If you invest the same time and specificity into describing something you like, the best you can hope for is the same choir or absolute silence. Not that I'm disagreeing with either response, since the vast majority of the time there is no need to justify a preference to anyone in conversation, not because preferences require no justification but because most of the time there is nothing gained in the attempt at justification. It matters in certain contexts where there is a clear justification for doing so. Most of the time, there is no reason in terms of the value of the people you're speaking to or the outcome of the conversation. So call them fags and move on.

>>127451415 (OP)

real criticism, by which I mean engaging written or verbal communication to examine and give context to what makes an artform worthwhile, is fucking dead was replaced with absurd numerical ratings a long time ago

>>127452076
>sound good = me like
Me like = therefore it rocks. Through a sheer act of the Nietzchean will to power, my subjective whims become ironclad Eternal Truths. You have to learn to trust your own taste, otherwise you'll start listening to music critics who tell you Lou Reed is good.

>>127460540
Dangerously based

>>127460654
>Punching David Bowie
That comes from applying the science of Suckology. This involves calculating the ratio of reputation with accomplishment. For example, if you just read how much screeching hyperbolic praise has been awarded to Bowie over the years, it's stupefying. But then when you apply this formula, you'd see: he can't possibly be that good. No human being can. So, in a certain way, he's almost got to suck dick. It's just math.

>>127451415 (OP)
The average person has brain damage from too much television and computer and doesn't think deeply about art. It's also typically a waste of time.

>>127451978
Based

>>127460654
6 and 6.5 is a good score by Scaruffi standards.

>>127460654
didnt know i agreed with scaruffi on something but diamond dogs is nowhere close to being bowies worst album

>>127451415 (OP)
Why is every single question thread a retarded question?

>>127451415 (OP)
I don't like rap except if it's very old school with good samples / or dmx/linn/808 type drums from the actual hardware. It's not music.

The first problem is the lack of riff-based development. In metal, even when a passage is built on a pedal tone or modal framework, there is a sense of forward propulsion. Riffs mutate, expand, and often undergo motivic transformation. On this album, most of the tracks are built on static grooves or looped vamps. There is little in the way of modulation, no adventurous use of chromatic mediants, tritone substitutions, or metric modulation. The result feels harmonically stagnant.

Rhythmically, everything sits too comfortably. Yes, there is syncopation and swing, but compared to polymetric layering in Meshuggah or the shifting tuplets of technical death metal, the beats here feel locked into a box. There are almost no surprises—no sudden tempo changes, no displaced downbeats, no extended phrases that break symmetry. It is groove music, but for someone used to complex time signatures like 7/8 alternating with 9/8, it just sounds predictable.

The harmonic language leans heavily on extended jazz chords, but they are often left unresolved, circling around ii–V progressions or static minor sevenths. In metal, dissonance is embraced and resolved in brutal, unexpected ways through diminished runs, phrygian dominance, or chromatic clusters crashing into power chords. Here, dissonance is rare, and when it appears it does not feel weaponized. Instead, it is smoothed over into atmosphere rather than used as a source of tension and release.

Ultimately, To Pimp a Butterfly feels more like background texture than something to sink my teeth into. I respect the layering of funk, soul, and hip-hop, but for someone raised on counterpoint woven through triple guitar harmonies, odd-time breakdowns, and modal shredding, the album’s reliance on static grooves and smooth harmonic cycles comes across as musically underwhelming.

>>127451415 (OP)
lack of actual musical education and training

>>127461025
It's easy to call the question retarded.
But can you answer it?

>>127451415 (OP)
Ok post a song and describe it

>>127451415 (OP)
>Why does nobody know how to describe what they like or dislike about music anymore?
Let me start with a riddle:
It starts with N

>>127451415 (OP)

Opinions are like assholes.

>>127451415 (OP)
Much is based off of aesthetics now and is sort of a sound that feels the background space so one is usually analyzing less. There's also the whole attitude of trying to fit in with what you consider 'good' music even if you don't personally care for it.

>>127467649
Ratings below 5 : multiple by 2, ratings at or above 5, add 1 : a more accurate rating.

>>127468148
except that would make Tin Machine and Low both 8/10 which is clearly bollocks

>>127467649
Also, I'd rank Ziggy Stardust, Hunky Dory, Low, and Blackstar a 10/10, Station to Station, The Next Day, Diamond Dogs Alladin Sane 9/10, Heroes, Tonight, Heathen 8.5/10, the rest 6 to 8.

>>127468197
Well, I said more accurate, not perfect...

>>127467649
I'd rate Ziggy Stardust, Hunky Dory, Low, and Blackstar a 10/10, Station to Station, The Next Day, Diamond Dogs Alladin Sane 9/10, Heroes, Tonight, Heathen 8.5/10, the rest 6 to 8. The weakest album was probably Young Americans ? only has 3 good songs, even Tin Machine was better.

>>127467660
>Bowie is the epitome of everything that went wrong with rock music.