Thread 127466450

Why is black metal so much worse than death metal? At least things actually happen in death metal, unlike this monotonous dogshit.

>>127466450 (OP)
Because death metal doesn't take itself seriously and for the most part is aware of how ridiculous it is while black metal is incels trying to LARP as a Hammer horror movie with a straight face.

>>127466450 (OP)
>Why is black metal so much worse than death metal?
Other way around.
>At least things actually happen in death metal, unlike this monotonous dogshit.
Because black metal is mostly about atmosphere and timbre, and death metal is more about riffs and groove. It's like complaining why there's no counterpoint in Debussy. Missing the point.

You didn't really jump straight into black metal with Transilvanian Hunger, did you?

>>127466450 (OP)
I find death metal boring, mostly just technical masturbation and blast beats.
Black metal takes you on a journey.

>>127466450 (OP)
I like both. Different strokes for different folks.
>>127466470
Some of the biggest death metal bands took themselves very seriously, like e.g. Deicide. Some of the biggest black metal bands didn't take themselves very seriously, like e.g. Immortal. But it's true, that black metal is on paper more insular and has stricter implicit rules about what's trve and what's not. But many more modern bands don't really care, and paradoxically black metal crosses over with many more genres than death metal does.

>>127466767
This.

>>127466470
There is literally no difference in how serious these bands take themselves. Most black and death metal bands are self-aware and know it's all just a joke.

Black metal leans on the wrong side ethnically.

>>127466772
>But it's true, that black metal is on paper more insular and has stricter implicit rules about what's trve and what's not.
I don't listen to a lot of it but I get a much stronger aesthetic vibe from it. Takes a very strong aesthetic position about exalting nature and being hostile to the modern world like a late, extreme mutation of 19th-century Romanticism.

I think it can be interesting to take one of these paintings and listen to one of these black metal songs and stare at it. It's also interesting how black metal artists will incorporate ambient into their music. Listening to the music brings the listener to something approximating a spiritual experience. Gothic also comes out of Romanticism like black metal and has an introverted and contemplative attitude.

Death metal draws on a whole different language but I haven't thought as much about it. Well, violence. It's much more in your face. Death metal or music derived from it can also take place in cities. I honestly can't tell you the difference between death metal and metalcore or whatever.

>>127466880
What about ethically?

>>127466767
Banged op hard

>>127466450 (OP)
Because you don't listen to it, therefore you don't know the vast extent of the genre. Norway alone produced the widest array of different styles within the genre, so you can just dig around until you find something more suited to your composition preference. I'd recommend Ulver's "Bergtatt" as an album with some of the finest writing in the genre, although it might be a bit soft at times to your death metal ears. Alternatively, from a different band, you can check out picrel from this year for something a little more dynamic.

>>127466470
I just think the songs are great, I'm not larping for any side.

Black metal lyrically is so retarded and boring

>>127468186
American black metal is the real black metal. Scandinavians stole KISS and Insane Clown Posse's makeup and the Manson family's gimmick to promote itself. American black metal is about the music, not the image. That's why it will always be trv3 unlike you Frodo Baggins gay orgy wailing in the Norwegian homo woods.

>>127466728
I kinda did but I liked it, even though my first introduction was https://youtu.be/7iY5RxusESg years prior. Transilvanian Hunger is about atmosphere and immersion, a bit like doom metal. For me comparing BM and DM is apples and oranges.

>>127466450 (OP)
Liking BM has got to be the most performative bullshit ever, you can't convince me face painted faggots screeching into a microwave for 15 minutes is pleasant to listen to

>>127468237
>lyrically
Who the fuck cares, lol

>>127470222
>performative
Is this the new, flavor of the month buzzword that retards use to appear smart? What the fuck does that even mean? Nobody pretends to like shit, this is just retarded.

black metal lyrics are some of the cringiest shit i think ive ever read

>>127467492
BM is White terrorist music, it's not supposed to be ethical.

>>127470300
Basically, yeah. It started making the rounds online to describe certain behavior, such as reading trendy books in public and wearing a Labubu (w/e they're called) on your Trader Joe's bag. But like any buzzword it's now being applied so liberally the actual meaning is diluted.
In short, >>127470222 is a dumb fag.

>>127470300
>Is this the new, flavor of the month buzzword that retards use to appear smart?
yeah it appears to be. like yes, black metal is performative...like all fucking music genres you fucking retard lmao

>>127470629
Bro you don't understand, music I like is about real emotions and real experience. Whereas music you like is all cringe posturing and anyone who likes it is being disingenuous. God I'm so smart and not a narcissist.

>>127466470
FPBP

>>127470629
Anon said LIKING black metal is performative, which makes even less sense.

>>127468237
Death metal meanwhile is known for having profound lyrics

My favorite part about black metal is how it sucks shit and sounds like it was recorded in the trunk of someone's car

>>127471919
Filtered faggot

Death metal is the worst of all the metal genres because of the fucking drums/triggers. Seriously who out there thinks that bass drums sounding like someone clicking away on a typewriter was a good thing? Most death metal is overproduced slop. Fuck Death Metal.

>>127466450 (OP)
I can't think of a more autistic genre of music than BM.

>>127474420
and that's a good thing