Thread 127474464

What truly makes a song good?

>>127474464 (OP)
Good melodies.

kill yourself

>>127474479
what does that even mean? what makes a melody good or bad?

Art is a tool that serves a metaphysical purpose. If a song solves or eases your metaphysical problems it's good

>>127474499
If it's catchy and memorable

>>127474502
what

>>127474545
Art

>>127474464 (OP)
big mood

>>127474464 (OP)
Most artists can’t write a good melody nowadays. This is why they don’t last long in the industry.

When it sounds good

>>127474464 (OP)
We can find that out together someday, you know...

>>127475595
whats a good melody? what makes it good?

>>127474464 (OP)
Idc what anyone says, if the instrumental is good the rest of the song is good

>>127479975
How is it good? what makes it good? what's a good instrumental?
>inb4 good melodies
Okay, what's a good melody then?

>be me, listen to tryhard pseud shit
>friend comes over
>he only likes Zappa, Grateful Dead, funk, fusion, 70s singer-songwriters
>Masonna track starts playing
>Wow anon, this is actually pretty good!

>coupla days later
>Wow anon, all the rest of harsh noise and all that other stuff you like is complete shit!
>still likes Masonna


When something is good you can generally tell it's good- even if you don't like the thing, you can appreciate that it's better quality than its peers. If you listen to songs from five different 90s country singers, you'll know that Garth Brooks was king without having ever listened to 90s country music.
The human mind is meant to recognize patterns, familiar trends, etc, and then put that information to use. The reason you have to poo really bad every day as soon as you pull into the driveway is because your body recognizes the patterns leading to "safe place to squat and poo where a bear won't eat me" and sends the signal. With any music, or art in general, your mind is applying a massive algorithm of pattern seeking, and then looking for connotative/fuzzy logic connections to secondary contexts in order to form an overall judgement. A song in and of itself is just a song- if something you like about a song is the bass is mixed really well, it's because part of your brain connects that particular sound to all of the previous experiences you've had with that sound, and how it was generally heard within a positive context.
All of this is to say that music is subjective and nothing means anything, but a lot of our preferences are just the product of experiencing something and letting our brain run it down a big checklist of things that personal history and social conditioning have compiled as criteria. This subconscious list of criteria changes and adapts with age, because your personal history of experiences continues to change the context of your memories, and your social conditioning changes accordingly.

>>127480322

So why does Garth Brooks sound like the best 90s country music singer to someone who has never listened to that genre? Because we know those instruments and that they're associated with bombastic, rocking music- even the fast fiddles or steel guitar ballads project confidence, and the mix is bombastic- big belting vocals with just the slightest edge of fry, drums mixed loud, bass clear and thumping, whining lead instrument over it all, solos for everyone- we know what to do- sing along and play air drums on the fills and nudge the gas pedal a little more. Like Cedric bixlar says in one of his famous little rants- "You saw that on t.v.- bah little sheep bah bah." We like Garth Brooks because we have a.d.d. brains that used to look for fruits and fresh carcasses but now live 80 years old and have had a pop culture/socialized personal history instead of "need to make sure I don't eat poison off the ground and can make it to reproductive age" mentality for a hundred thousand years. A hundred thousand years of cultural algorithm, like a big clock that all of your upbringing built in your brain, and then said Masonna is good but those Island Boys or whatever they were called clearly need to be thrown off a boat.

>>127480322
>run it down a big checklist of things that personal history and social conditioning have compiled as criteria.
This is 50% of the story. The rest is YOU resonating with the presented rhythms based on your inner clock.

I think you're the singer from castle rat, are ya?

>>127480322
>>127480406
>>127480847
wow... deep...
>>127480848
no

>>127479606
Memorable catchness. A melody that is stuck in your head.
https://youtu.be/VbfpW0pbvaU

>>127481111
Okay, I can understand that
now, what's the science behind this? how would one explain this scientifically?