Thread 127475534

Mendelssohn edition
https://youtu.be/IXooZzrVr54

This thread is for the pseudo-intellectual discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

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Previous: >>127466534

I would sacrifice the entire output of Mendelssohn for a couple more Elgar symphonies. Oh if wishing made it so!

I would sacrifice the entire output of English music for a couple more Mendelssohn symphonies. Oh if wishing made it so!

happy birthday Debussy

I'm going through this set performed by Aldo Ciccolini, it's pretty great so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXT5of90F-Y&list=OLAK5uy_k_LA2sB-2JiV8fa530DpwiG6NLElDwYnM&index=4

highly recommended

>>127475534 (OP)
corrected link
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

>>127475547
Embarrassing. Who even still listens to Mendelssohn's symphonies once they're deep into classical music?

>>127475559
nice selfie, maybe try posting it over on >>>/soc/ instead?

>>127475559
wtf did Mendelssohn do to you

>>127475541
Embarrassing. Who even still listens to English symphonies once they're deep into classical music?

>>127475580
Mendelssohn was a second-rate composer and his songs without words are worth only as much as the paper and ink used to write them.

>>127475532
Early works go up to the String Quartet and the Faun, middle works are best represented by La Mer, Images, Pelleas, and the Nocturnes. the Late works start with Childrens Corner and Preludes and end on the Violin Sonata

>>>127475547
>Embarrassing. Who even still listens to Mendelssohn's symphonies once they're deep into classical music?
>
>>>127475559
>nice selfie, maybe try posting it over on >>>/soc/ instead?
>>>127475580
>Mendelssohn was a second-rate composer and his songs without words are worth only as much as the paper and ink used to write them.

speaking of Mendelssohn, I'm feeling like giving his Lieder ohne Worte piano cycle another try, either this set or Michael Korstick's. Thoughts? Anyone else here a fan of it? Or is it undistinguished salon music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_mQSjz3bYw&list=OLAK5uy_m2-f7JZZnKmSr-sQN3N6F5kCmGTJGnvfs&index=40

>>127475609
>his songs without words are worth only as much as the paper and ink used to write them.
oh :(

>TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM

BAB
A
B

>DAILY REMINDER

IAA
A
A

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>>127475629
>undistinguished salon music
fella, don't be this new
>oh :(
and don't feed the trolls

>>127475629
I would avoid Barenboim personally. Generally I like Ilse von Alpenheim or Rena Kyriakou.

>>127475618
Thanks, and you place his early period as his best? What other masterpieces does it have? The string quartet is fantastic but the Images and Pelleas and Nocturnes, then Preludes and CC and etudes and violin sonata are steep competition.

thanks for making the thread, OP; I'll be back when the schizo tires itself out

>>127475644
>>127475649
Hmm alright, I'll try it out again tonight by putting it on like an hour before I want to sleep, and then falling into a slumber while listening to it.

feels like a Mahler 2 evening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPq4RADOg9E&list=OLAK5uy_nwD3WVPqH6lPDMDfRO25W0jzrQ4fjq_fo&index=25

>>127475654
Right now I'm really preferring the Faun, early songs, early piano works, L'efant Prodigue, and La Damoiselle Elue. I really love the carefree almost innocent Debussy compared the late works and middle works if that makes sense. But the introspective late piano pieces, chamber works, and Etudes are close second for me for their emotional profundity.

>>127475656
I can last for hours big boy

In honor of the edition: favorite recording(s) of Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto?

>Your Romanticism
>My Foot
>Your Classicism
>My Fist

I will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin

>>127475736
I see, thanks.

>L'efant Prodigue
looking it up, that was written in 1884 :o

>>127475715
the first three purely instrumental movements are good but I hate solo singing in symphonies.

is it disrespectful to fart in a concert?

>average BABIAA listener

We will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin Nocturne

We are the Mockers of Mozart
We put a chokehold on classicism

We are the Cuckolders of Chopin
We are the Rapists of Romantics

We are the murderers of Mahler
We strike fear in ever pretentious and Neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies

>>127475737
Heifetz/Munch obviously

>>127475762
it depends on the piece being performed.

>>127475762
Follow your leader

>>127475762
>Up next is mozFart stinky dinky symphony no. 39 in E flatulence followed by Braaaaaap Concerto in P(ee) minor

You tell me

now playing, continuing with this Uchida/Tate/ECO Mozart piano concertos set

start of Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 20 in D Minor, K. 466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJrykFpnSko&list=OLAK5uy_kHAqgTRQqidXbDC7NCNfP0XdHyeGdcuE4&index=44

start of Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 21 in C Major, K. 467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibw6WEekAHk&list=OLAK5uy_kHAqgTRQqidXbDC7NCNfP0XdHyeGdcuE4&index=46

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kHAqgTRQqidXbDC7NCNfP0XdHyeGdcuE4

fuckin' Uchida's expression on this cover, man, it's like she parodying herself. Anyway, should be good.

Post your musical transgressions and guilty pleasures
>I like Tchaikovsky's first and second symphony as well as the Ballets
>I listen to Morton Feldman frequently
>I enjoy Eric Whitacre
>I think The Planets is a great composition

>>127475835
>transgressions
>guilty
I am the law and I feel no guilt nor shame. You're weak and pathetic.

>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court
>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School
>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms
>No Perotin or Medieval Music

>Bach
>Machaut
>Ives
>Marais
>Buxtehude
>Stravinsky
>Reich
>Bartok

No Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No Mahler
No Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul

>>127475649
>Generally I like Ilse von Alpenheim
I'm checking this one out now. Sounds nice so far. The piano tone works nicely for it.

NO MOZART
NO CHOPIN
NO MAHLER
ALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!

ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIE
THIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!

SONATA FORM SHOULD DIE
ONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!

HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE


BACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER

imagine basing your entire online persona on a dumb gag from, of all places, Life magazine

>>127476010
>Life magazine
?

>>127476010
Real Schizo hours need real schizo music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iVYu5lyX5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QSuXpzNDs8

>top row-shit
>bottom row - not nearly as shit, but still shit

>>127476022
here you go, anon.

>>127476053
no, thanks

>>127476099
oh, right right. I was only thinking of the bits and jokes built on top of that and thought you meant one of those

>>127476123
What bits? What jokes?

>>127476135
Bits and before, Jokes and after.

>>127476099
This shit is so stupid

Hewitt's Couperin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-PTDb6Jj30&list=OLAK5uy_lyk9NpfniEpAhfGKSBXkc_bWXOfZPKLao&index=1

>>127476158
what did you expect

>>127475737
which one

>>127476322
the masterpiece one, the seminal one, the essential one

>>127476158
>>127476204
Only for the unenlightened, BABIAA is as much a philosophy as it is a lifestyle, but I would expect Mozfart listeners to understand

scherzo thread

>>127475835
I refuse to have any guilt regarding listening to music. Everything I enjoy, I enjoy for a reason.

ending the day with some Rachmaninoff piano concertos, performed by Hough/Litton/Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeb92Nt-6VY&list=OLAK5uy_lgVzHhxfdv3NXjHGu_2cb1jEuh7RdahIQ&index=1

>>127476440
I think the point is those reasons could be poor reasons, reasons you feel guilty about. No one enjoys something without any reason at all.

>>127476746
the reason is that I enjoy them

>>127476342
which one

>>127476746
There can be no poor reasons of enjoying art.

>>127476819
How about the main character is cute? How about you just like the setting? How about it's self-insert power fantasy? etc

>>127476834
what's your point, fella

>>127476844
Those are poor reasons, even guilty reasons, one might say.

>>127476854
ah I see, you're just being stupid

>>127476834
None of those reasons are poor. But yes, there is a great effort to make you think these reasons are 'poor'. Because artists are jelous, narcissistic people and will shit on anything in order to promote their efforts.

>>127476871
>will shit on anything
anything good.

>>127476871
That, and critics/"connoisseurs" are talentless, resentful people who will latch onto the works of said artists in order to berate others, in pursuit of a fleeting and misplaced sense of self-worth
for example >>127476874

>>127476885
that last bit is a joke, by the way

>>127476885
>critics/"connoisseurs" are talentless, resentful people
That's so obvious it didn't need to be said.
>for example
That was me correcting my post

>>127476871
>artists are jealous, narcissistic people and will shit on anything in order to promote their efforts.

some certainly are but most of us are quite normal.

>>127476901
>us

>>127476901
Most are definitely not normal. Artistic people tend to have narcissistic or undesirable personality traits. Those who don't, rarely make it to the top.

>>127476933
what's "the top" and why is it desirable

>>127476941
Learn to read.

>>127476945
>I don't know
ok

>>127476933
>Those who don't, rarely make it to the top.

Bruckner made it to the top eventually.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtFcv5F50Q
Cochereau

>>127476927
shut up faggot.

>>127476956
The top work is anything that is preserved, cherished, studied long after its completion, aka "classic". Think of Ravel's Bolero, Debussy's Clair de Lune or Renoir's Dance of Bougival.
>>127476962
>usually
Also, Bruckner was quite autistic and probably not a nice person to be around with, unless you were also autistic.

>>127476977
>self-proclaimed artist feigning humbleness on /classical/ flipping over nothing and calling someone else a faggot
can't make this shit up

>>127476997
>the top is what's popular
lotta shit fits the bill then

>>127476997
he probably had aspergers which isn't a real disorder anyway unless you consider Germanness a disorder.

Reminder Bach and after, before and not including Ives.

1. Mozart
2. Mahler
3. Tchaikovsky

This is not debatable, I’m afraid

>>127477012
ok faggot.

>>127477037
Lotta amazing shit as well
>>127477044
>which isn't a real disorder anyway
According to what?

>>127477063
whelp

>>127477063
>not debatable
It's also not a statement
>>127477074
According to what the voices in his head tell him to post

>>127477049
My man

>>127477074
according to common sense and my bias against over socialized city dwelling sub-humans who think they are the authority on who is or isn't mentally ill.

>>127477118
Thankfully that isn't the basis of clinical assessment.

Wand!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GH02aCPrt8&list=OLAK5uy_lKWDGbF1Pi9JHnKumwgs7s20RDAw9gNUY&index=1

Paul Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzw2v5rtoPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHo8igW6qb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iXUeUDEWvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAAmPNV_4B4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGsSeAhVMTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tVdEKd6hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsSd6P3J_aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttFjGOfqYgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA8BuCVBOW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_EfiES8_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGlaCmMmTEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Yx8DCbH-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgLkNM1NUkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZkX9huvKw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6wK7BV0su4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpgYJhpcL8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7c8SFS9Lxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEDpcdx5ppk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS--K3dPHzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx9itohCcBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vxqnnEwiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-NZS9DrY4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6p3NQ1_wvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgmUji_bBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHo5CMqNEDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9o6UG52FTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoIPU5bY0kU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRMkYW7lFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWcXVMheFh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_YrDOH9ECg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-EI9G9l_aY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhyQH8inhH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1BOv7txO6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGgW0wF96Ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y33yE8OBmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-dbA56Dl4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntj3YQdzRac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgrhL0z6ZEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j1-sy1Q7T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Iwqb5NxQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpussBdoS2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPIGMeEObA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HRBS1lQy7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1diq5bem0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoDBxrMrBgw

>>127477049
Absolute shit opinion, please refrain from posting

>>127477377
Ives is unsalvageable shit; go and kill yourself about it

>>127477416
Please by all means, do yourself the favor, plebs have no place our society.

>>127477416
Correct
>>127477433
>plebs have no place our society
*Pseuds

>Most conductors perform Bruckner as if the music were a divine gift thundering down from the heavens. [conductor] performs the music in the opposite way, as a human endeavor worthy of rising up toward the heavens.

hmm that made more sense when I was lying in bed. nvm

>>127477433
As expected, no reading comprehension whatsoever

>>127477440
>>127477463
Sorry guys, my digits speak the truth, go listen to mendelssohn or whatever mentally ill romantics that attracts /classical/ these days

>>127477472
I accept your concession and look forward to the news of your suicide

It will be Christmas in what feels like 2 weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyK7yvAPFl8
KOEK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR67HSs4RPI

>>127477478
>Referring to yourself in the 2nd person
>projecting this hard
Either way, I look forward to yours my friend

real schizo hours

>>127477597
Only the finest my friend

>>127475554
The fanastie is a top tier Debussy work, like a cross between Franck and Rachmaninoff but all of it is still Debussy

>>127475654
Oh and listen to the Fantasie for Orchestra, you'll understand what I mean by the carefree and innocence in this post>>127475736

>filling out census form
>reach the question asking what my religion is.
>write "Wagnerism".

does anyone else here do this or is it just me?

>>127477651
just you, hopefully

>>127477651
I write Debussyian, but yours is just as acceptable of an answer. Fuck Islam and Judiaism and whatever desert n3gro shit that has infected the Western mind

>>127477651
Wagner was a Protestant

>>127477676
in the sense that Jesus was Jewish.

>>127477683
Define Jewish

>>127477685
having Jewish parents.

>>127477690
Circular definition

>>127477692
much like Christian reasoning.

>>127477683
>>127477685
Get out of this thread now, this for Classical Pagans and Catholics only

>>127477698
sir, you are Mexican.

>>127477683
well yeah
>>127477672
interesting that you didn't include the christcucks in your antiabrahamic curse

I never get (You)s on /mu/. I am alone on this barren earth

>>127477698
catholics are pagans

Jesus never saw a talmud

>>127477712
not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try posting on >>>/soc/ instead?

>>127477712
sounds like a (you) problem.

Praetorius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5h_-4FWhrA

>>127477704
Holy fuck you're half right

>>127477714
That's the point, fuck these desert religions

Anyone else have certain works they love but are too emotionally powerful to listen to more than on rare occasions? For me, it's Brahms 4, Beethoven's 32nd Piano Sonata, Mahler 9, a couple others. They're genius but the emotional and aesthetic effect they have on me is so poignant, so intense, I try not to listen to them more than once every five months or so.

>>127477717
Neither did Moses

This thread got real sad, not gonna lie. See y'all tomorrow

>>127477738
That’s right

>>127477737
Romanticism is a mental illness

>>127477738
>>127477744
Um, actually, G*d gave the talmud to Moses in oral form

>>127477737
Wagner unironically. I promised myself that I would never listen to the same Wagner piece twice in one year and even then, only in complete isolation on a Saturday night.

>>127477817
Please refer to my post>>127477755

>>127477849
please refer to my post:

>>>/b/938782739

>>127477873
>going on./b/
>after 2012

>>127475737
Suk/Ančerl/Czech Philharmonic

best Bruch Violin Concerto No. 1?

>>127477698
it's actually for gnostics, if you know, you know.

>>127478263
gnosticism is cringe.

>>127478270
of course YOU would think so, you do not possess a soul.

>>127478275
what you call soul I call will and representation.

>>127478287
fine, beautiful.

best Odinist composers?

>>127478318
W.

trivia, which composer had a pet wombat?

>>127478387
Wagner was a Wagnerite. He was the prophet of a new religion: Wagnerism.

>>127478403
probably Sculthorpe.

Trivia: Which composer had or didn't have a pet (any kind)?
Trivia: Which Composer was Human?
Trivia: Which Composer made Music?

>127478433
imagine being this desperate for (you)s.

>>127478433
Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nblEvvLwvLY
Really enjoying this.

127477849
127477735
127477698
Why has /classical/ been invaded by goypers/gaypers?

Where's Mahlerkun

Make /classical/ great again!

>>127478486
He's probably asleep.

>>127478464
Nic, very nice. Reminds me of something…

top 10 cum posers (all time)
1. Wagner
1.2. John Sebastian Bach
2. Bruck, also known as Max Bruckner
3. Scriabin
4. Chopin
6. De Pussy
5. Mustard
7. Beethoven (the dog)
8. Ravel
11. Caesar Frank

>>127478558
i don't know what language that is, but it looks scary and evil and i will not be clicking on it.

now playing:

Liszt - 2nd Symphony (Dante)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Vb1VdN5ZU

Stanford - 5th Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wGfLIKgEc

Sinding - 3rd Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWlwlGsQAek

Parry - 4th Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40zQk362XXg

best Elgar set? Barbirolli or Slatkin?

>>127476694
>>127478615
Do you get any sleep anon

>>127478817
you wouldn't get it.

>>127478895
Not funny. Try to get some sleep fren.

>>127478995
sleep is for the undisciplined.

>>127479031
Sleep and healthy lifestyle is the highest form of discipline. There is nothing else discipline can or should achieve other than personal well-being.

When you take the BABIAA joke seriously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdyyin_9izI

Heard my first live Mahler yesterday (5th, Mäkelä and Concertgebouw), dunno what to think of it. The 1st and 2nd movements were beautiful and elegant and passionate, the 1st in particular (the moment the orchestra erupts hysterically blew me away) and the 4th was of course beautiful (though kind of boring), but I didn't get the 3rd or the 5th, they felt like a hodge-podge of things to me. Am I too stupid for Mahler?

what helps acid reflux go away?

>>127479616
eating healthily.

>>127479545
Has nothing to do with stupid or smart, just acclimation to the musical language and style. First couple times I didn't know WTF I was hearing either. Give it some time, explore some more music, return to it later, and hopefully it clicks.

>>127478256
thoughts?

>>127479545
Yeah 1st movement is insanely beautiful. But the rest of the symphony isn't too far off. You are already a Mahler fan if you liked some movements.

>>127469364
all 30m+ long symphonies reccs welcome.

>>done
>Paul Hindemith - String Quartet No. 4, Op. 22 [With score]
>Balakirev: Symphony No. 1 in C Major: III. Andante
>Balakirev: Islamey (Arr. S.M. Lyapunov for orchestra)
>Balakirev: Tamara
beginning was really nice.
>Mozart: Rondo in A Minor, K. 511
>Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Rondo in a-minor K. 511 // Daniel Nowak, clavichord
>String Quartet No. 7 in F Major, Op. 59 No. 1, "Razumovsky": III. Adagio molto e mesto
>Rachmaninov, suite for two piano, op. 5. Lugansky - Rudenko
i really liked the first mvt, very smooth.
>Franz Schubert - Symphony No. 5 (1816)
>Schubert: Piano Sonata in B-flat Major, D.960 (Kovacevich)
nice and soft.
>Elgar Cello Concerto in E minor op.85
>Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 in C Minor, WAB 108 (1887/90 Versions, Ed. Haas) : III. Adagio....
>Vaughan Williams: Sinfonia Antartica [Previn] Heather Harper EXCERPTS
i feel the most perilous of journeys in this one.
>A Dante Symphony - Franz Liszt
>Stanford Symphony No.5
>Christian Sinding - Symphony No.3 in F-major, Op.121 (1919)
>Hubert Parry - Symphony No.4 in E-minor (1889)
liked certain parts in the first mvt.

>>backlog
>Bach - Mass in B minor, BWV 232 / Remastered (Century's recording: Hermann Scherchen)
>Sorabji: Sequentia Cyclica

>>progress
passing Dabiddo-kun and Goliath the Philistine® and i can't not post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NX2I-2WGDE
Amnon raped his half-sister Tamar, so her brother Absulom organized a brothers' gathering, murdered Amnon, and fucked off to Geshur.

>>2¢'s
my hands are dead today.
trying again tmr.

>>127479854
Here you go:

Spohr - 4th Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOlrEEanu28

Berwald - 2nd Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Fly9zFCgg

Glazunov - 3rd Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVxVo_trDJ0&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

Hovhaness - 60th Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPawfq_p8c

>>127479545
The 3rd, 4th, and 5th movements are usually played too slow. Especially the 4th one. People drag that out for 10 minutes or so when Mahler originally intended it only to last for 6 or 7 minutes. Things can get boring if you drag them out too long, but it's also a lot to digest in one sitting so try and give some other recordings a shot.

>>127475757
you just say that because most sopranos they get are crap

>>127476099
why was this guy's choice for representing theatre fucking Henry VIII? it's like the one Shakespeare play nobody likes

>>127480651
sounds like you would prefer a western movie.

>>127476099
We joke but it is a little depressing how many people have genuinely based their personalities on this around here over the years. Reminds me a little of how 'fedora' became an insult due to guys trying to ape early 20th century masculinity by putting on a hat.

>mahler
Cringe
>Beethoven
Stunted half-wit who had glimpses of genius
>Mozart
Filth
>Haydn
Had to use humor to cover up his lack of talent
>Brahms
Volcel
>Bruckner
Incel, pre-Mahler mental illness tier, who's got time for 50 minute symphonies?
>schumann
Effeminate pedophile

Which is more pretentious- classical or RIO/avant-garde

>>127476099
Low brow is the best here

>>127481250
>>mahler
Excellent orchestration, drama and storytelling. Will hardly bore you but can slack.
>>Beethoven
Genius. Perhaps the greatest of them all.
>>Mozart
Lovely. Charming. Almost flawless. But samey.
>>Haydn
Godfather of sonata structures and formal coherence, but samey.
>>Brahms
Crowning achievement of the western music.
>>Bruckner
High highs, low lows. One of a kind.
>>schumann
Closest to one's heart and soul.

Scarlatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-S6eRqVeM8&list=OLAK5uy_k3AJBrvmynb-IiDjrxf9KEmt00AupFbLk&index=8

don't sleep on mozart's pno cto 12 andante, it's exquisite

https://youtu.be/N63yWG7IYt8?si=UHGc8IpVLsaKpuLH

>>127478256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UNVJK8eqoY

>>127478809
The Barbirolli recordings are transcendent but they're heavily eccentric. The Slatkin performances are better to start with. Same with Previn's.

>>127478486
>>127478501
Slept normal hours last night, plus yesterday I only listened to recordings I'm already deeply familiar with and fond of, and I don't usually post those.

>>127481724
>don't sleep on Mozart
It's already puts me to sleep

>>127481250
Why would Brahms being volcel or Schumann being a paedophile afffect their music, those are criticisms of the person not the music

I want to write a programmatic piece called The Goyim Know but I can't write music

>>127482079
keepin' them trolls nice and fat I see

>>127480018
>Spohr - 4th Symphony
I remember being laughed out of the hall every day back when I was shilling Spohr. Things change, y'see.

>>127482079
>Brahms being volcel
Just because he didn't get to fill Clara's fanny with his crème-de-la-bite doesn't mean he didn't get so much fangirl poon he actually had to move houses

>>127482468
what a sentence

anyway here's more Paul Hindemith for your enjoyment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jitbwlX0_ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpHZkiZHOSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLXVWmTDw7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5EoRR3-YRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrXbq1G3imY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLhPcpK4sEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEMI1gCnQk

>>127481850
Have you listened to Herbig's Mahler 6? I came across it while perusing Spotify last night and found it most enjoyable, up there with Sanderling and Kubelik

>>127482685
Neat, added. Here's a nice, detailed, and informative review and analysis of it I found,
https://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2002/aug02/Mahler6_Herbig.htm

I'll give it a peep.
>18:03 first movement
:O
omitting the repeat I presume? damn.
>Herbig and Szell allow the music of the Andante to unfold without mannerism. Under Herbig, however, there is an ounce or two more feeling that just evades Szell. Interestingly, both also leave out the first movement exposition repeat and you need to be aware of this when considering Herbig’s recording. However, as both recordings were never originally intended for CD release this cannot be so they could be fitted on one disc which is the impression I received from Yoel Levi’s version, for example. The liner notes explain that Herbig dropped the repeat because in the first half of this concert he gave "Kindertotenlieder". So maybe it was considered the concert would have been too long with the repeat. Though since the repeat lasts around five minutes that seems rather puzzling. Whatever the reason for leaving the repeat out, though I do believe it should always be played, as with Szell I don’t think losing it damages Herbig’s performance at all. His view of the first movement is on the grim and determined side and not hearing the repeat adds to the performance’s sense of "getting on with it" which brings its own dividends.

I'll still listen tho. Thanks for the shout.

The opening of The Goyim Know will be a jaunty self satisfied dance piece based on exotic folk musics of Hungary, Armenia etc. The centrepiece being a line played by a thin reedy instrument-oily and self satisfied sounding. The movement will get faster and more jaunty until ending in a false crescendo interrupted by a serious of about three loud drum beats. An extremely crass metaphor representing a door being knocked which will no doubt disgust serious aesthetes
This will be followed by a message from a horn that is passed in quiet mutters round the orchestra. The character of this movement will be completely different based on the paranoic neurotic styles of early 20th century atonal music . The format will be a question of series of questions and answers, quick lively and hesitant which are never fully answered.. At times it'll be interrupted by a falsely bombastic parody of classical (18th) music that never goes anywhere and dies out; however the general air will be one of paranoia and unease with the questions and answers getting shriller faster and more staccato, until it reaches a speed where it sounds like a group of hens shrieking at each other and is rounded off by a louder and louder drum music in the background which lead into the truly cacophonous racket of an ending with the underlying form being a Microtonal serialist Septuple Fugue.
There might be a choir chanting backwards in hebrew here I haven't decided yet
There will be three movements but there will be no pauses between them with all parts leading directly into each other

now playing

start of Schubert: String Quartet No. 14 in D Minor, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSym2R0Q06M&list=OLAK5uy_nEWKPmnS1j8TpSF1GiY62la-bm5FQuN6I&index=2

start of Schubert: String Quartet No. 13 in A Minor, Op. 29, D. 804 "Rosamunde"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_annUpEIKQ&list=OLAK5uy_nEWKPmnS1j8TpSF1GiY62la-bm5FQuN6I&index=6

start of Schubert: String Quartet No. 15 in G Major, Op. Posth. 161, D. 887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKND9Wm9Mo&list=OLAK5uy_nEWKPmnS1j8TpSF1GiY62la-bm5FQuN6I&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEWKPmnS1j8TpSF1GiY62la-bm5FQuN6I

Been too long since I last heard these masterpieces. This ensemble, the Artemis Quartet, also have an older recording of the string quintet featuring the inimitable cellist Truls Mork and the singular Quartettsatz in C minor, which I'll check out too after this. I quite enjoyed the Artemis Quartet's cycle of Beethoven's string quartets, which is different than the usual heavily romantic, sentimental, and sensitive types of performances I generally prefer, so I expect the same here. If I had to describe their approach in a word, it'd be "intelligent," as in intelligent readings which emphasize the formal traits of the music over the emotional. Basically the standard trend of modern ensembles in my experience.

Anyway, should be good! After this, I'll probably check out some complete cycles, for example by the Diogenes Quartet and Modigliani Quartet, whatever popular ones are out there, and see how they handle the late quartets.

My local luthier just charged me 70 bucks for replacing the strings and cleaning my violin, did I get scammed?

>>127484209
ye

>>127484209
Sounds fine. It's only 70. Better safe than sorry.

>>127484209
Should've asked an AI luthier to replace your strings

If I buy a Stradivarius replica will it sound like a genuine Stradivarius after 200 years?

>>127484437
ye

Aee Japanese audience so cultured that they only cough inbetween movements or is it just the live recording (Brahms 2 Wang/Gergiev) that mutes audience during the performance

Are Japanese audience so cultured that they only cough inbetween movements or is it just the live recording (Brahms 2 Wang/Gergiev) that mutes audience during the performance

>>127484622
they're physically unable to coof

>>127484622
The Japanese are the most virtuous people that ever lived.

>>127484622
Japanese live performances are the best ones because of that. They will sooner sudoku than cough during the music
Also their live engineering is usually better than studio engineering, like the 1977 Karajan Beethoven cycle in Japan mogging the DG engineers

get comfy and spend the afternoon listening to Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDDEoYejjmU&list=OLAK5uy_kMlzvVSChLKj1Qu-U9Gbd6UhoXnNPmOVg&index=9

>>127484589
Source?

>>127485090
im from the future

>>127485171
You're not funny, dude.

>>127485260
neither is the future

>>127480744
Anon I'm pretty sure Shakespeare only wrote Henry VIII to please royalty and he himself didn't give a fuck

>>127484622
can you control when you sneeze and cough or something

>>127485622
they should've at least chosen Macbeth, but that's Life magazine for ya

>>127485637
....can you not?

>>127485645
no?
if I'm about to sneeze or cough and I try to hold it in for too long my eyes will probably pop out of their sockets. it's an involuntary body reaction

>>127485637
absolutely yes
one time I had to cough so bad during a bruckner but I held it and was crying from the pain but I held it and it is possible to do if you have fortitude

>>127485659
weirdo

12 etudes in minor keys Alkan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcgAJLHf7A&list=RDVNcgAJLHf7A&start_radio=1&ab_channel=SeigneurReefShark

>>127485667
that's just retarded at that point

What if we made orchestras so big and loud that you cant hear people cough

>>127485806
says the disabled cunt who can't control his bodily functions

>>127485806
better than coughing during a piece

>>127485816
anon most people can't simply decide not to cough when their bodies feel like it
>>127485817
if I were playing in an orchestra I would rather people cough a couple times than know they held it in to the point of tears

>>127485873
k

>>127485873
I do think you're right that the orchestra members care less about someone coughing than the audience, but the audience is paying

Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2LS6h6WRhg&list=OLAK5uy_mewMYzs-kxz75-f-1egGfcDBnzzYiHMYI&index=5

>>127475534 (OP)
What’s the best sonatas to get pussy? Flashy is good and I need a few sensual ones as foreplay.

Same deal for violin. I need shit to play at the park or in the town square to start a harem in a college town.

>>127484727
Define virtue.

>>127484622
>>127484883

>>127486034
Rachmaninoff
Debussy
Villa-Lobos
Ravel
Vivaldi
Pretty much any French baroque composer

>>127486149
He considers the Japanese to be the most virtuous because they produce cartoon child porn for him.

>>127486149
sticking glass rods into the penis holes of your POWs and then snapping them just for shits and giggles.

>>127486183
I can play Villa Lobos “Choro no.1” on guitar, what’s best on piano? Or violin/viola?

>>127486034
trap music

>>127486176
>>127486222
>>127486227
someone's mad

Praetorius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zc1TLML1k

>>127486271
Konnichiwa, Dude!

>>127486368
be quiet

>>127486271
Jap soldiers a bunch of sadistic little shits in WWII and they still are. My only complaint about Truman is that he didn't drop a nuke directly on the emperor in Tokyo.

*were*

>>127486431
You'd be celebrating said cruelty if it were against jews

>>127486444
don't change the subject, Fusanosuke.

>>127486471
What's the subject?

>>127486494
weebs.

>>127486512
Pretty sure that's off-topic, chief

>>127486471
lol he's not denying it

The GOAT. The MVP. The Brahmin of the baroque.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=sSrTRpKZU7s

>>127486569
>Jean Sebastien
why are the french like this

>>127486575
>Jean, John, Johann
Same meaning.

>>127486625
ok Juan

>>127486575
they still haven't got the hint from the Napoleonic wars that no one wants to speak their abomination of a language.

>>127486654
>>127486654
I mean I'm equally disgusted when people translate french names. Imagine a spanish label publishing the complete orchestral works of Mauricio Ravel and Claudio Debusí

Scarlatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSKQWn23US4&list=OLAK5uy_kw2R3Uyroly1zAPe7F19bq2gMSNqR4o0o&index=10

>>127486690
I love Alejandro Scarlatti

>>127486681
>Imagine a spanish label publishing the complete orchestral works of Mauricio Ravel and Claudio Debusí

I would support such a thing purely out of spite. I hate French "culture" so much that I even refuse to use the terms quaver, crotchet, minim, and semibreve.

>>127486738
'kay

>>127486738
Why do you hate French culture?

>>127486767
probably genetic memory.

>>127486776
Memory of what?
The Dreyfus affair? The colonization of Vietnam?

>>127486794
No, ustadian pop culture that he's been injected with since early childhood

>>127486794
I'm German.

>>127486810
>I'm jewish
that explains it

>>127486820
>ethnic groups within Europe can't hate each other.

you see, that's where you're wrong.

>>127486810
voser sort daytsh?

>>127486690
>it's not Scott Ross

>>127486834
jews are famously self-loathing, yes

>>127485983
>>127481692
good

>>127486834
Mostly a larping mutt thing

>>127486907
not larping. It's a well-known fact that Germans and French are natural enemies.

>>127486935
they're literally the same (jewish argelians)

>>127486935
They formed the EU

>>127486968
The EU only emerged out of the need for a coalition against the eternal Anglo.

>>127486997
no, it emerged out of the need by the argelian jews to complete the globalist project

>>127487013
>muh jooz

sir, please take your tinfoil hat off before speaking.

>>127487035
only after you take the buttplug out of your asshole and take a joke like a man

Fuji, Fuji, Fuji

>>127487074
Kodak, Kodak, Kodak

>>127487111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nblEvvLwvLY

now playing

start of Mendelssohn: Violin Concerto in E Minor, Op. 64, MWV O 14
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYdtShCVNcA&list=OLAK5uy_lHuXpR5ayD8OxUs6k5PNp6Iuw_RJQmx94&index=1

start of Bruch: Violin Concerto No. 1 in G Minor, Op. 26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfLNuYMMKw0&list=OLAK5uy_lHuXpR5ayD8OxUs6k5PNp6Iuw_RJQmx94&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lHuXpR5ayD8OxUs6k5PNp6Iuw_RJQmx94

>Midori is a grown-up and is no longer being judged by--and for--her age, and for those who aren't aware of it, she has become, quite simply, a great violinist. These two concerti--such favorites that each is represented by almost two dozen available recordings--are wonderfully played here. The gorgeous opening melody of the Mendelssohn sets the tone; the sweetness Midori gets from her violin is instantly captivating. The middle movement avoids sentimentality while remaining songful and the finale is light and airy, with the bow seemingly barely touching the strings. The Bruch opens with just the right dark, introverted mystery (such a different mood from the end of the Mendelssohn that you may want to pause a moment before beginning it!), the central Adagio is sheer poetry and the finale brilliantly sparkling without a hint of "look-at-me" arrogance. The live recordings are vivid and the audience clearly brings out the best in both soloist and orchestra, all under the caring, balanced eye of Mariss Jansons. This is now the preferred versions of these concerti on discs. --Robert Levine

>>127478256
check out >>127487773

>>127486149
Watch this video: https://youtube.com/shorts/JqUI54qi2lU?si=2EVLQCKCpvDQFPLR

The Japanese are so virtuous that they fought one-on-one even during fucking wars and after they defeated their opponent they would just stand there watching everyone else's fights. This is a chosen people, I wish I was Japanese.

>>127487834
cringe

every great solo piano composer should have been forced to write a 24 major and minor key piano cycle

>>127488050
your mother should have been forced to have an abortion

anyone here like Prokofiev's operas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxK2P5u0lys&list=OLAK5uy_kq8OI5pB1pNeoL642vKtF73wi1sEFIff0&index=17

>>127488195
>anyone here like Prokofiev

>>127488218
best post-Beethoven piano sonata cycle, and unique, haunting, and gorgeous violin and cello works

>>127488225
>best post-Beethoven piano sonata cycle

now playing

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 11 in B-Flat Major, Op. 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JZw8PfzRTY&list=OLAK5uy_mgndxxHRNskCmDV9B2Te3lCQlc-idLpT0&index=2

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 18 in E-Flat Major, Op. 31 No. 3 "The Hunt"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs0_jtvQVhc&list=OLAK5uy_mgndxxHRNskCmDV9B2Te3lCQlc-idLpT0&index=6

start of Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 28 in A Major, Op. 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_vUUekLvU&list=OLAK5uy_mgndxxHRNskCmDV9B2Te3lCQlc-idLpT0&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mgndxxHRNskCmDV9B2Te3lCQlc-idLpT0

>Angela Hewitt's acclaimed series of Beethoven sonatas has delighted her fans worldwide, and undoubtedly increased their ranks. Volume four features the little-known Piano Sonata No.11, Op.22 (the last of Beethoven's 'early' sonatas), the Piano Sonata No.18, Op.31 No.3 (nicknamed 'The Hunt') and the Piano Sonata No.28, Op.101, the first of the series of Beethoven's 'late' sonatas, when his music became more personal, more intimate, and exploring a new realm of freedom and fantasy.

>>127486255
Composer?

Ysaÿe gets them moist:

https://youtu.be/HkC-p7y1qe0?si=OMiRp8GUNkMRguTf

>1. Mozart
>2. Mahler
>3. Tchaikovsky

>This is not debatable, I’m afraid

which WTC do I wanna listen to tonight...

>>127488892
Richter, it always Richter, no matter how much the HIP faggots say otherwise.

>>127488930
It's funny, if you were to make a chart of my listening habits, I actually prefer listening to the 8-9/10s more often than I do the 10/10 recordings. Aka yes I know Richter's is the best but I only go for it every, I don't know, one-out-of-ten times I put on the WTC. Why do I do this? Couldn't tell ya. Sure there's a reason but I haven't figured it out.

>>127488836
wow you were really holding onto that one huh

>>127488892
9/11

>>127488892
The one performed on Bach’s favorite instrument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3guk5iVi4

>>127488997
>harpsichord

>>127489005
Clavichord

>>127489037
oh shi-- fine I'll listen to the single piece you posted, but no more.

>>127489005
yes, go to sleep little boy and make sure you don't wake up

>>127488930
y/n?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkdEeGiAs0k&list=OLAK5uy_mV2fKy2RwJhFxR0AoPf50U7lmDs6T78ug&index=61

what are some good pieces to listen to while walking around in nature?

>>127489160
Angela Hewitt is always a hit or miss with me, but her Ravel piano works will always be close to my heart since that was the first time I heard Ravel played.

I'll put her WTC on my backlog and I will post my thoughts in another thread

>>127488963
It's the only WTC I listen besides maybe some Gould cuts or Gulda performances. Which complete sets would you recommend?

>>127489196
Sibelius's symphonies 3, 4, 6 & 7 plus Tapiola and maybe the early Lemmikainen suite. Also I guess Grieg's Peer Gynt suite but that may be a bit cliched

>>127489247
The sets I rotate between the most in the order I rank them are Richter's (both of his), Ugorskaja's, Koroliov's, Tatiana Nikolayeva's, and, lately most often, Hewitt's (more often her 2008 set than her 1997 one these days).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzuWGnJsK8&list=OLAK5uy_lb_qrkMJqDitFkq2PR8aXY78WilpqZHSU&index=22

I've been trying to listen to Tureck's more often recently too but I just can't handle the sound quality, it's too poor.

>>127489196
Grieg's Lyric Pieces for solo piano would be fantastic I'd imagine.

>>127489196
Liszt's tone poems, minus perhaps Mazeppa, Hamlet, and Von Der Wiege Bis Zum Grabe

>>127489491
Oh shit also Franck's first tone poem that shares a name with Liszt's first one

>>127489304
Thanks, I'll try to prioritize the Hewitt one first and gradually listen to the other gradually.

>>127488997
were they afraid of getting the microphone too close of the clavichord or what happened here

>>127489533
clavichords are just very quiet instruments

>>127489527
but will you do it gradually

>>127489533
?

>>127489546
Sorry man, I'm drunk and didn't proof read my posts. On a side note, Russian Romanticism goes so well with inebriation

>>127489543
It's not just the volume. Balance and clarity are off. It sounds as if they're recording it from the room next door and keep tentatively moving around to get a better reception. Also quetness is not a problem, you can crank that shit up in studio, just ask the geniuses behind the loudness wars.

>>127489574
Vodka music goes well with drunks indeed

>>127489527
>>127489234
>>127489160
>Clop, Clop, Clop
>What’s that noise?
>It’s either Hewitt walking to the piano or playing it

>>127489196
How about turning the music off and listening to the sounds of nature?

>>127489589
>Clop, Clop, Clop
I just listened to >>127489160 and can't hear it, what are you talking about

also someone go make a new thread already or I'll make a Hindemith edition see if I don't

>>127489585
You just can't beat the raw and emotional honesty of the Five when you're in the exact same state as when the composed their music.

>>127489611
It's Debussy's birthday for Americans, its only fair they make the next one in his honor

>>127489612
lusting for men?
>>127489606
get a load of this guy

>>127489626
not anymore I don't think, at least not everywhere

>>127489627
Nah, lusting for the Russian winters and pine wood airs of the Volga river

>>127489611
It must be the former then.

>>127489637
and men

Next thread peasants, and please a Debussy edition if you so kindly, its only fair

>>127489657
suck on these nuts

new thread
new thread
new thread
>>127489721
>>127489721
>>127489721
>>127489721
>>127489721

>>127489723
I was just about to make a Krebs one

>>127489737
maybe you should've thought of that four minutes ago

y'all have to honour the general that was made a minute early. You can have the next one in a few hours

>>127489527
Hope you enjoy! Make sure you properly sort which Hewitt set is which (1997 set is red dress with open mouth on the cover, 2008 is black dress with closed smile)

Hindemith essential works to start with?