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Violent Restitution edition
Razor - The Marshall Arts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeHOgPKHs4

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>>127483653
Hanoi Rocks is glam rock, not metal in any capacity

>>127483088 (OP)
edge of the razor was one of the songs that first got me into thrash

My fellow /trad/tards; tell me what thou art blasting!

Any Grim Reaper fans in here? They worth a listen?

>>127484954
>Any Grim Reaper fans in here? They worth a listen?
No idea, I've heard of them a lot but never sat down and checked out any of their records. Excellent reminder to download some, though.

I forget just how fucking amazing this band's first two LPs really were. Every song here's a bullseye, but here are my personal picks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz_w7dyTANY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQJzYBTsOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwUMEWg4fiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjSIhyKWKM

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>>127483088 (OP)
I heard that he passed out after this scream, never confirmed becuase I like the lore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeHOgPKHs4&list=RDXpeHOgPKHs4&start_radio=1

>>127487326
I'd believe it and I choose to

One of the most overrated thrash albums and this is coming from a huge Razor fan. In fact this is one of their worse albums. I just don't get the hype.

>>127487368
> In fact this is one of their worse albums. I just don't get the hype.
It has their punchiest production and best songwriting. To me it's everything the band were building up to over the course of the mid '80s.

>>127487381
Fair but imo they peaked on their first 3 albums (btw didn't they have a drum machine on Malicious intent?) and the demo of Decibels. Still love the album artwork for that, absolutely hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weGJ1kfUkkA

>>127487453
>(btw didn't they have a drum machine on Malicious intent?)
I... maybe? I'm gonna be honest I thought that record was pretty boring, and a massive step-down from their debut. (Whose name escapes me at the moment because I haven't listened to it in like four months lol)

>>127483088 (OP)
>>127487326
Saw them but It was missing something. RIP St Vitus great venue maybe it was just because I had seen many better shows there.
>>127485374
This band is awesome you never hear about them

>>127487592
Was Sheepdog on vocals when you saw them? He was the original vocalist for Razor.
>This band is awesome you never hear about them
I hear about them... sometimes. But I agree they need to be more talked about, some of the best speed/power/thrash of the '80s and the vocals; while an acquired taste for me are really unique.

>>127484954
Decent NWOBHM with a really good singer. He was actually nearly in Sabbath - Martin and Iommi weren't talking by the end of the Forbidden tour, so Iommi was planning on going forward with Grimmett, Rondinelli and Murray if the original reunion lineup talks fell apart.

>>127487514
>(Whose name escapes me at the moment because I haven't listened to it in like four months lol)
this nigga finna get heemed
But to get back to being serious it's Executioner's song, and probably my favourite album by them.
Thankfully I saw them live once, not with Sheepdog because he quit in '89 but it was absolutely mindblowing, catchy riff after catchy riff, in this department thy shat on every single other band in the speed and thrash genre I've ever seen live. Yes, even Slayer. I still don't want to believe how they can come up with so many great AND catchy riffs.
It was at Obscene Extreme, it was a Violator/Infest/Razor combo one after the other. Holy fuck it was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J276njmMITs

>trad metal
Not metal you fucks.

One of the best albums of 1983.
>HEAVY,
>METAL
>MANIAC!

>>127487813
>this nigga finna get heemed
D:
>It was at Obscene Extreme, it was a Violator/Infest/Razor combo one after the other.
I've heard of Violator and listened to a few of their songs, but I've never heard of that other one. I'm assuming they're speedy thrash like Razor?

>>127487841
>Violator
If you like Exodus and Slayer listen to them immediately. I loved everything they released and they are one of my fav thrash bands.

How deep did you get into the Exciter disco?

>>127487896
>If you like Exodus and Slayer listen to them immediately.
I LOVE Exodus' debut record and I really like early Slayer, so yeah they sound right up my alley.
>How deep did you get into the Exciter disco?
First three LPs + Feel The Knife. Long Live the Loud is one of the biggest hidden gems in trad, but HMM is also damn solid, too. Personally I wasn't much a fan of Violence & Force, but it is on my list to check out in the future.

I just can’t get into Raven. Can’t stand the vocals, the production or the songwriting.

>>127487979
>I just can't get into Raven. Can’t stand the vocals, the production or the songwriting.
Listen to it until you like it
>t. someone who originally hated King Diamond's vocals but was just being filtered by them

>>127487951
>Personally I wasn't much a fan of Violence & Force
That is literally their best album. The heeming shall begin...
(I started their s/t once but the vocals were so fucking garbage I just quit listening to it but I gave it a second chance and on the other songs he doesn't have such a shit tier voice. The songs are still mid unfortunately.)
Btw I bet you like Iron Maiden. Moreover I bet you prefer Maiden to Priest. And like a few Motorhead songs but only because of peer pressure.
Don't lie, I won't judge you. Just call you a fag & pleb. :^)
Anyway, check out Violator and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usiGmFH82aw
I love this song, pure speeding hard rock. Wait I want to attach some tits too.

>>127488030
>Btw I bet you like Iron Maiden.
Somewhat. I like their debut, and love Powerslave and SiT. But outside of those records I couldn't give a shit about them if I tried.
>Moreover I bet you prefer Maiden to Priest.
HELL NO. Priest's best runs marathons around Maiden any fucking day.
>And like a few Motorhead songs but only because of peer pressure.
Actually I just don't like Motorhead! I've never gotten their appeal and while I respect their influence I think they're really fucking overrated. (see; Iron Maiden)
>Anyway, check out Violator
Sure, why not. I was getting indecisive with what albums to choose. :p
>and this
Best song off of one of the most boring, soul-sucking pieces of shit from the mid-80s. (And Ozzy wasn't doing good around this time either, Ultimate Sin fucking reeks.)

>>127488030
Based Glenn Hughes appreciator.

What a voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM-sUDyskgI

>>127488082
>Based Glenn Hughes appreciator.
(I like his vocals a lot too, I just wish he was on an actually good album.)

>>127488070
You are more similar to me than I expected. But disliking Motorhead is unacceptable. I guess you are not a fan of punk music as a whole either?
This is a cover but this is true rock and roll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRmFPKkx3AA

For me? It's Court in the Act by Satan.

>>127488151
>I guess you are not a fan of punk music as a whole either?
NOPE. Punk's too sloppy, and it doesn't give me anything to latch onto besides it being energetic. Which to me, why the hell would I listen to a genre that's pretty much devoid of cool songwriting when speed metal is RIGHT there and has not just the high-energy, but actually has some depth to its songwriting. I do like crossover thrash, though! Usually the stuff on the thrashier end of the spectrum like Suicidal Tendencies - HWILTWICELT.

>>127488202
Based taste.

>>127488070
>>127488092
Maybe try some of Iommi's later solo stuff that he sings on. Love the combination of putting together big riffs with what in essence is a soul singer.

https://youtu.be/hGhpM7C1h7k?
https://youtu.be/XPCiFs9W3Hg?

>>127488240
>Maybe try some of Iommi's later solo stuff that he sings on. Love the combination of putting together big riffs with what in essence is a soul singer.
Listening to Time is the Healer right now. I see what you mean, this is some pretty cool shit. Hughes' vocal style, combined with the heavy as a lead zeppelin gives this song a VERY psychedelic quality. It's almost like Randy Holden - Population II but much more metallic; if you've ever listened to that record before.

>>127488227
That's fair. Check out
Speedwolf - Ride with death
Dr. Living dead - Crush the sublime gods
Cryptic slaughter - Money talks
do you have any good crossover recs? (I spared listing the obvious ones)
and here's a fortune cookie link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSuwcPzLXb0

>>127488361
>That's fair. Check out
>Speedwolf - Ride with death
>Dr. Living dead - Crush the sublime gods
>Cryptic slaughter - Money talks
I'll keep these in mind, although I stopped keeping a concrete list a while ago. I just kind of go on Metallum or RYM (sorted by esoteric) and pick shit that piques my interest lol.
>do you have any good crossover recs?
It's low on my priorities so I've never delved past the surface (D.R.I., ST, etc.). Most of what I listen to is trad, specifically USPM.
>that first song
Crunchy. You could eat this music and get many essential nutrients.

Anyways I'm gonna go check out that Violator album now. Just downloaded it. B)

>>127488465
Check out the Dr living dead one because they were basically a Suicidal copy but a damn good one at that.
DRI and SOD, lmao, you just listed the shittiest crossover bands.
The cryptic slaughter album I mentioned is one of the THE best thrash stuff you can find, then you can go on to the first Leeway album (after that they went into shitty thrash), first two Excel albums (third one is a groove/alt metal one but I also really like that one), first Crumbsuckers, literally everything Municipal waste released because they are THE crossover band and for a good reason, while you are at it Iron reagan, first two Uncle slam are also awesome. Maybe you'll like Cro-mags past the first album and you said you like Exodus and Slayer so also check out Gama bomb (starting with their second album, Citizen brain).
Came for the recs and stayed for giving them. Whatever.
(MOD sucks too btw.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-NyGCEeN8

>>127485374
Thoughts on first their revival era? It's like a completely different band, but still solid stuff. I nearly forgot they had a second revival and I never heard the new album.

>>127483088 (OP)
damn the mastodon guy died, didn't know

>>127487979
We all have bands like that, bro. I personally have three. Manilla Road, Cirith Ungol and Omen. I respect the hell out of them and wish I enjoyed them more, but it just doesn't work for me. Some times, it's just not meant to be,

>>127488678
>Maybe you'll like Cro-mags
This band has been on my list to check out for a while, and I continuously see that name pop up while browsing. Thanks for the recs, metalbro

>>127488712
>Thoughts on first their revival era?
Never checked out but I've heard good things about it, and have their record from '03 downloaded and ready to check out whenever I feel like it. I've heard from reviews that they take a on a thrashier direction, can you confirm that?

>>127488738
>Cirith Ungol
Those vocals, man. They sound really cool but fuuuuuuck I can't listen to that band often or else they start to seriously grate. I do still like Cirith, though. Just wish I could listen to them more often. As for me...
>We all have bands like that, bro. I personally have three.
To a lesser extent than Motorhead, Accept. I like the band, and think they have plenty of good songs... but I just do not think they're as good as everyone says they are.

>>127488792
>I've heard from reviews that they take a on a thrashier direction, can you confirm that?
Yeah, absolutely. Some amazing riffing on those albums. The one you have downloaded is probably the best one from that era.

>>127488858
>Yeah, absolutely.
Awesome! Some of my favorite material off of Agent Steel's first two LPs is the more thrashy shit like Agent Steel (title track) and A Day at Guyana.
>The one you have downloaded is probably the best one from that era.
Now I'm really fucking excited! I'll check it out ASAP.

>>127488858
>Yeah, absolutely.
Awesome! Some of my favorite material off of Agent Steel's early material is the more thrashy shit like Agent Steel (the song off Skeptics) Mad Locust Rising and A Day at Guyana so that's not a negative at all.
>The one you have downloaded is probably the best one from that era.
Checking it out ASAP.

>>127488792
>Thanks for the recs, metalbro
My pleasure. And sorry for linking off topic music every time I post but it is what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZKszS-nk0k

>>Cirith Ungol
>Those vocals, man.
I was the same, start with the Forever black album. I couldn't stand this band (tried multiple times) but after I've listened to that album something switched in my mind.
Which reminds me, I clearly remember laughing at and making fun of Candlemass' Bewitched video clip with my friends. They still think it's shit but they became one of my favourite bands of all time ever since. In fact they were one of the bands who bumped my ass to start making music.

>>127488716
>motorcycle crash
Damn, that sucks. Same fate as Tony Taylor from Twisted Tower Dire and Isen Torr.

>>127488966
>My pleasure. And sorry for linking off topic music every time I post but it is what it is.
Apology accepted just please stop doing it lol (also I'm listening to that Violator album, I wouldn't really compare this to Exodus that much. It's reminding me a lot more of late '80s Sepultura than anything else. And yes, it's fucking awesome. Also shocked at how raw the production is, sounds like something from the '80s rather than something from '06.)
>I was the same, start with the Forever black album.
My problem is that my hearing is naturally sensitive, and while I've managed to more or less negate it... Cirith, for SOME FUCKING REASON Tim Baker is one of the few vocalists that still irritates my ears after long listening sessions. Otherwise I still really like the band, with The King of the Dead in particular being a great fucking album. (I'll download FB right away though)

>>127483088 (OP)
Based Razor thread. Violent Restitution is one of the greatest thrash records ever recorded.

>>127485374
I think their Mad Locust Rising EP is the best one by far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaa0EmSF17k

Too bad this song does not have lyrics included. I remember like 15 years ago my friend played this to me on a vinyl and from that day on I remember the name Agent Steel

He's gonna get you!

>>127489032
>Based Razor thread. Violent Restitution is one of the greatest thrash records ever recorded.
A trvth nvke so powerful it wiped out the entirety of Japan instead of two cities
>>127489042
I'd agree if it weren't for the JP cover. It's a good cover but compared to the original material off of the EP it pales in comparison.

>>127489080
>JP cover

Yeah its kinda filler, but still better than King Diamond's (Mercyful Fate) cover version

I used to get Agent Steel mixed up with Angel Dust. Both bands put out two albums in the 80s, then had a revival a decade later with a different sound.

Color me surprised, a good thrash album after the early '90s! I don't think many songs stand out as a whole, but as a complete package this was really fun, very reminiscent of late '80s Sepultura. Also bonus points for the music not being overproduced to hell and back like so many other modern metal bands.

>>127489230
Glad you enjoyed it! But Sepultura were always a budget Slayer :I
HEIL VIOLATOR, FUCKING LOVE THEIR MUSIC

>>127489187
>I used to get Agent Steel mixed up with Angel Dust.
Yeah I can see how you could mix the two up. Never listened to Angel Dust, but one look at the genres tells me they're right up my alley. Speedy power metal :(|_

>>127489332
>But Sepultura were always a budget Slayer :I
BtR>every Slayer album. I love Hell Awaits and really like South of Heaven and Show No Mercy, but outside of those three LPs I don't care about them. Reign in Blood is also good but nothing to write home about compared to their earlier output; especially when more extreme metal (like Kreator - Pleasure to Kill) was right around the corner.

>>127489369
Hell Awaits is better than Beneath the Remains and everything Kreator put out.

>>127489381
>Hell Awaits is better than Beneath the Remains and everything Kreator put out.
Disagree on BtR (I fucking LOVE that album, favorite thrash album bar none) but I'll easily concede on Kreator. I was mainly using them as an example as to why I don't think Reign in Blood is all that amazing, since I believe that both PtK and RiB share the same exact flaw: they just get repetitive. Though I think PtK is more egregious in that regard, especially because iirc it's quite a bit longer than Reign.

Gonna head out now, peace out /trad/tards

>>127489369
The first album is pure speed/thrash, while the second album (pic related), is a mixture of heavy, power and thrash metal. That one is my favorite, and it has S.L. Coe on vocals, who also sang on the second Scanner album. Very underrated vocalist.

(4x)
VALHALLA, DELIVERANCE
WHY'VE YOU EVER FORGOTTEN ME?

OH, OH-OH-OH VALHALLA

>>127483088 (OP)
I don't know what definition of "Traditional Heavy Metal" you're using, but when I hear that phrase, I think of Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc. I don't think of an aggressive version of thrash metal like Razor, which is in the general extreme metal category. That's like saying Slayer is traditional heavy metal.

I'm listening to the second King Kobra album for the first time now and was ready to dig in and defend it - yeah fine they shifted from metal to poppy AOR so I get why that pissed off people, but the songwriting is still really good - but then I got to Home Street Home. This legit might be the worst song ever recorded by an otherwise good band.

https://youtu.be/l4M36xFgUEY?si=hs2gUskAKoYYH2vY

>>127490238
I think calling Razor traditional metal is a stretch too, though the first album and EP could count. I guess OP chose it because Razor's also considered a speed metal band.

>>127488030
Holy fuck those tits are fantastic

>>127490238
>>127490255
Razor is thrash/speed metal that isn’t explicitly death or black influenced so it’s allowed here.

Where's your violent restitution at?

>>127493763
I shot with gun
But it didn't die
Instead it warp
To the sun

>>127485374
>>127489042
I haven’t listened to these in probably 15 years. I forgot how fast they are.

To the anon that recommended me this, you weren't kidding! This is much, much thrashier than their earlier output. And while I don't think it's as good their classic material, this was still pretty solid, (especially the vocals, they're really good) sans the production which was a bit too processed for my tastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL0Vlzm2JQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfRlxyBQ3c0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNgtLi9Giw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyS58c4HvQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi3bIp3X13w
Opening riff to this song (before it turns into cokethrash) is very reminiscent of MOP's.

>>127484533
>armored saint
Can u deliver is pretty cool

>>127483088 (OP)
>Guidelines: https://pastebin.com/7cJ7xZy8
didnt previous threads also say all metal before the 90's was allowed? or was that a different general?

>>127494697
Great song but these two songs from March of the Saint are better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YARLnqm8Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3c2B0p01k4

>>127494709
>didnt previous threads also say all metal before the 90's was allowed?
The general used to be /cmm/ and was dedicated to the same genres /trad/ is, except threads were only on Mondays and nothing past 1990 was allowed.

Everyone in this band, especially KD, peaked on this album.

>>127494753
If we can post stuff from these bands after the 90's, i'd say:
Tribal Dance and Reign of Fire (from their Symbol of Salvation album) are really good.
Dropping like flies is also cool.

>>127494759
Melissa>DBtO
Satan's Fall is better than ANYTHING off Don't Break the Oath.

>>127494782
>If we can post stuff from these bands after the 90's, i'd say:
As long as they're related to trad metal in SOME capacity and aren't one of the forbidden genres, or overtly influenced/congruent with death or black metal (i.e., Celtic Frost, Sepultura, Sodom) it's allowed
(Stuff like Slayer is dicey though, and is on the cusp of what is/isn't accepted so keep that in mind.)

>>127483088 (OP)
>>127494753
Is stuff related to those genres allowed if it came out before the 90s?

Would this be allowed in the thread?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=azriNXjLic8
Came out 1986. It's 'Pigfeeder!' from Deep Switch's only album.
It's pretty standard heavy metal riffs for the most part. but there's an almost-rap interlude towards the end of the song.

>>127494936
This is the only song on the album that does this.

>>127494759
for shermann and denner, true. for king, it's arguably between that and abigail.

AMAZING ALBUM! Can't believe I didn't check these guys out sooner!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM_Xl7WyA7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usnxOPLsOYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZX3xz3jj20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whH-VOiO6HE

>>127494817
To add onto this with an actual example, with thrash specifically the lines can get incredibly gray; so what I usually go by is "If it's even slightly heavier than Slayer - Angel of Death, it's no longer related to traditional metal and has gone fully into extreme metal territory." While not 100% precise (that's impossible), this is the best method in my experience.

>>127494936
>Is stuff related to those genres allowed if it came out before the 90s?
No.
>Would this be allowed in the thread?
Sure, why not. This song sounds perfectly fine to me.

>>127494959
>To add onto this with an actual example, with thrash specifically the lines can get incredibly gray; so what I usually go by is "If it's even slightly heavier than Slayer - Angel of Death, it's no longer related to traditional metal and has gone fully into extreme metal territory." While not 100% precise (that's impossible), this is the best method in my experience.
One reason I'm wondering is because guys like Venom (who are credited with inspiring Black Metal to some extent) released their first album in 1981.
I'm not sure If I posted this one in the classic metal threads before, but a more obscure example of an album crediting with influencing extreme metal would be the Nightmare Theatre album by Exorcist. They were actually a side project of Virgin Steele, a US power metal band.
I dunno if the riffs are heavier than Angel of Death, but vocals are extreme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj_LfJ-oB00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0sglMXnA4

Virgin Steele's usual stuff would probably fit in the thread, but IDK if their side project would.
Actually that brings me to another question: Slayer was always an aggressive thrash band, but What about situations like Judas Priest? Their earlier stuff is basically stuff that helped define traditional heavy metal, but later on you have much more aggressive albums like the famous Painkiller (and their 2 albums without Halford).

>>127495140
>One reason I'm wondering is because guys like Venom (who are credited with inspiring Black Metal to some extent) released their first album in 1981.
Venom isn't black metal. They inspired it, but they aren't black metal proper. I consider the first BM bands to be Bathory & Sodom.
>I dunno if the riffs are heavier than Angel of Death, but vocals are extreme
>Virgin Steele's usual stuff would probably fit in the thread, but IDK if their side project would.
Borderline.
>Actually that brings me to another question: Slayer was always an aggressive thrash band, but What about situations like Judas Priest? Their earlier stuff is basically stuff that helped define traditional heavy metal, but later on you have much more aggressive albums like the famous Painkiller (and their 2 albums without Halford).
Is this a joke or are you just throwing hypotheticals my way for the lulz? Judas Priest was NEVER as heavy as Slayer and all of their material is allowed. :P

Anyways, speaking of Judas Priest have some of their songs that are definitely on topic:

The Hellion/ Electric Eye. A well known classic. It annoys me that theirs versions of the song on youtube without the intro:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=B4VrD4d7Kqk

Rock Hard Ride Free. This is probably one of those songs with a double entrende title:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pGFBpXotZuA


Here's a few that are probably a little less famous:
I think Rocka Rolla is their only song with a Harmonica:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ihgHbMagWSw

Point of Entry definitely had some good songs, like the Desert Plains track:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hxNN-VUbXfw

I once saw a review describe Killing Machine as a metal equivalent to disco (probably because of the four on the floor drumbeat):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rN59cDMRDZw

>>127495244
>I think Rocka Rolla is their only song with a Harmonica:
Cheater (also off RR) has a harmonica as well.
>I once saw a review describe Killing Machine as a metal equivalent to disco (probably because of the four on the floor drumbeat):
That's just stupid. I'd sooner call Diamonds and Rust disco metal, because that one actually has some traits of the genre.

Aside from Rocka Rolla, I only know a few metal songs with Harmonica. There's obviously The Wizard:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e8fxrX-YidM

Strangely, there's also some cover versions of the song Train Train that would count as metal in my eyes:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NnN_Oz1U0RE (Blackfoot)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QMY3ieqNrs8 (Warrant)
The thing is that neither of these bands were really traditional metal bands, and the original song — which was written by a grandfather of Blackfoot's guitarist — was not metal at all.
For comparison, this is what the original song sounded like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sROSe31vV2s And here's a non-metal cover by Dolly Parton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdN11Ou9xh4

>>127495295
>Cheater (also off RR) has a harmonica as well.
I must've forgot about that one.

Aerosmith cover is unnecessary and after the first three songs it starts to get a bit inconsistent in quality, but other than that it's a worthy successor to their legendary debut. Only two standouts for me, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GWNFLHg58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddA_NEm6nbc

>>127495468
While making that post, I wondered if you could compare Train Train to Saxon's Princess of the Night: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fnzQISf8us4
It came to mind because both songs involve trains.

On a different note, while they were mostly famous for stuff like Cherry Pie and their ballads, I think Warrant definitely had some other Heavy Metal songs that probably could fit here
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pn3s0EsARSM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HUhbYmdEym0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IQKrTzhcmuA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=U3IKzGUPQ_Q

>>127495685
>I think Warrant definitely had some other Heavy Metal songs that probably could fit here
They do but I don't want that band (or Poison for that matter) in my beloved general

>>127495753
I don't really listen to Poison, though my understanding is they are poppy glam metal band.
But the riff on this song honestly reminds me of something by black sabbath, maybe Sabbath Bloody Sabbath:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HUhbYmdEym0

127495753
I don't really listen to Poison, though my understanding is they are poppy glam metal band.
But their riff on this song honestly reminds me of something by black sabbath, maybe Sabbath Bloody Sabbath:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kPAlXQeaaKw

>>127495777
Damn that's a nasty riff
>I don't really listen to Poison, though my understanding is they are poppy glam metal band.
They are, but most of Warrant's material is just like them but with higher musicianship.

>>127495789
I accidentally posted the same song by warrant twice, so I deleted that post.
I meant to post cat dragged in by poison:
>>127495785

>>127495802
>I accidentally posted the same song by warrant twice, so I deleted that post.
Lol, I fuck up my posts all the time in this general lol
>I meant to post cat dragged in by poison:
That's like their only metallic song, the rest is just poppy glam metal :p

>>127483088 (OP)
>https://strawpoll.com/mpnb1vO1Qy5
lol I was the only person who voted.

The only album I listened to was wasp's self titled so i voted for that one. I do plan to listen to manila road eventually.

>>127494959
Yeah, great album. Gambler is my favorite.

>>127488227
>Which to me, why the hell would I listen to a genre that's pretty much devoid of cool songwriting when speed metal is RIGHT there and has not just the high-energy, but actually has some depth to its songwriting. I do like crossover thrash, though!
What exactly is speed metal? I've never really seen a clear definition.

>>127495889
Thanks for voting :D
>The only album I listened to was wasp's self titled so i voted for that one. I do plan to listen to manila road eventually.
Crystal Logic is a phenomenal album, give it a shot anon
>>127495905
Fast heavy metal, almost always utilizes double bass drumming

Been said before, but there's a lot of overlap between Classic Rock and Traditional Heavy Metal especially early on.
For Led Zeppelin the most famous example is probably the Immigrant Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OtzJtp-EM
There's also stuff like Achilles Last Stand, a 10 minute epic with gallops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4KLOm7pO0

Songs like Whole Lotta Love or Communication Breakdown would sound more metal if the guitars weren't as thin:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oaSk5vnAVJ8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVkbPErAmXU

>>127497101
>but there's a lot of overlap between Classic Rock and Traditional Heavy Metal
Until roughly 1975-1976, yes. After Sad Wings of Destiny, metal starts to sound less and less like rock music. And by Iron Maiden's debut album, I'd consider the genres more or less their own distinct entities. Been discussed to death, though.
>Songs like Whole Lotta Love or Communication Breakdown would sound more metal if the guitars weren't as thin:
WLL, maybe. But Communication Breakdown's only metal attribute is the palm-muted main riff, everything else in the song is very clearly blues rock.

>>127487453
>btw didn't they have a drum machine on Malicious intent?
Are you deaf? No machine could authentically replicate the shit drumming on that album. Well at least they're in time, and the rest of it more than makes up for that

>>127488738
Anyone with a pair of ears won't pretend to like Shitrith Butthol. Extremely overrated band

>>127495905
You've never seen a clear definition because there isn't one, it's a mostly worthless label

>>127488030
>>127488151
Not him, but my favorite Motorhead record is Another Perfect Day. The addition of ex-Thin Lizzy guitarist Brian Robertson gave them this melodic feel they never really explored again.
https://youtu.be/KQ5T2dIUPgs?si=cL8uDPUiuC65LwIn

HAAAAAALLLLLL OF THE KING
A VISION OF THE END

>>127488738
Manilla Road’s vocalist sounds like my goofy hippie uncle so I have fun listening to them once in a while.

>>127498015
It's weird because he sounds really cool some times like on Veils of Negative Existence, but I can't stand stuff like the Necropolis chorus.

>>127498091
>but I can't stand stuff like the Necropolis chorus.
Imagine Skeletor singing it. I'm fucking serious. This is what I did, and it really made me appreciate the song (which I already liked beforehand but thought the chorus was a little clunky.)

Just as good as Skeptics, and I'd argue better in some ways (namely the production, which has a lot more oomph.) This album, much like Mad Locust Rising from the previous year is also quite a bit heavier as well,, lot of thrashy riffing on this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cx4OkJOFlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGTCzLfSHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhOzBp9_s9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eyKYpmuE4Q (phenomenal song, probably this band's best)

>heavy metal album released in 1982
>it's from Germany
I shouldn't even have to say what this LP sounds like lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrveutrEXCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=117lTLkBco0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO6W_ceqGH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v3nNOeyWt0 (a rare example of a metal ballad that's actually metal)

10/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec1egVgLHq4&list=RDec1egVgLHq4&start_radio=1&ab_channel=Queensr%C3%BFche-Topic

>>127499776
Listened to this since I'm too lazy to put on a new album and yeah I agree
Phenomenal song, the way it builds and builds over its entire runtime is fucking masterclass

>>127498117
>Imagine Skeletor singing it. I'm fucking serious.
kek based

Final album for the night, I'm just about done with it... and I don't know, this one just isn't clicking like their debut did. It starts off solid with the first two songs, and the last is pretty good as well; but outside of those three songs most of the material here is just standard mid-tempo anthemic heavy metal that isn't memorable in the slightest. There's also a lot of ballad-y, softer moments on this album. And that in conjunction with the more catchy song structures has me wondering if AS were fishing for potential radio/MTV airplay with one.

BLACK LEATHER AND GLITTERING STEEEEEL

>>127500452
The only reason I've been hesitant to check that Riot album out is because I've seen people mention that it has a shitload of interludes and has a horn section (for some fucking reason.)

>>127484964
Exciter rules. I have a t shirt of theirs.

>>127485374
I get similar vibes from Hallows Eve, albeit theyre a bit more low end sounding and less power metal-y

>>127500473
>Exciter rules. I have a t shirt of theirs.
based
>I get similar vibes from Hallows Eve, albeit theyre a bit more low end sounding and less power metal-y
Now that's a band I haven't listened to in a while. Funnily enough when I was first starting to get REALLY into speed metal, Tales of Terror was one of the first albums I checked out!

>>127487783
I actually had no idea. Did they record any demos together?

>>127500483
The only thing that comes up when I search "black sabbath steve grimmett demos" is a cover he did of Heaven and Hell a few years before he died.

>>127500470
Yeah, that's understandable, and it's a shame the album is like that because the music is really good for the most part. It does lean a little more into hard rock territory, but it still has blazing speed metal tracks on par with the ones on Thundersteel. I have the album with all the intros edited out on a hard drive somewhere, so if I can find it, I'll share it.

Goodnight tradbros, have a grab bag of songs before I head off for the night =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPKLzuhoHyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyKGhh4tnAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1npkbtrKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwk0emLPZ5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCn743waXH0

>>127500829
>I have the album with all the intros edited out on a hard drive somewhere, so if I can find it, I'll share it.
The main way I engage with music is rating and cataloging the albums I listen to (I rate EVERY album I check out) so an altered version wouldn't really do me much good in that aspect. But for casual listening I'd love to have a version that has the interludes cut out, if you can track it down!

breddy gud actually

>>127501083
>actually
I mean, it's not like that's some kind of hot take. Still remember the first time I heard Ride the Sky. The solo section just blew me away and I never wanted it to end.

>>127501126
I had listened to it like once and forgot about it, for a while I just assumed it had been a bit silly. Wrong.

>>127500481
The vocalist is very versatile

>>127488070
I actually went through a phase when I was younger where I was mainly into Discharge and Motorhead but disliked Maiden and Priest. I was primarily into punk and hardcore and despised trad metal. I grew out of it obviously. This was 20 years ago.

One of the great underrated metal players, shame he's apparently a bit of a nutcase and basically disappeared for decades.