Thread 127487595

who is the most hated addition to a big name band?

>>127487595 (OP)
daily reminder 5150 was van halen's best selling album

>>127487595 (OP)
Whoever replaced Ritchie Blackmore.

>>127487625
It's also their third best easily.

>>127487595 (OP)
Sammy, Brian Johnson by Bon Scott only die hards, Blaze Bayley.

Cherone gets a worse rap than Hagar, which is funny considering he isn't really the reason why VH3 is so shit.

>>127487660
Are you talking about Bolin or Morse? Bolin is more disliked because his heroin addiction contributed to Purple breaking up rather than anything to do with his musical abilities. Morse was considered to be a bit of an odd choice but was well liked by the fans after Purpendicular came out and was seen as a real return to form by the band.

>>127487595 (OP)
Not him

>>127487625
>5150 was van halen's best selling album
Quit smoking crack. You are either purposely lying or retarded- which is it?

>>127487837
NTA but I could have sworn 5150 was their highest selling album and that the Sammy era was their most commercially successful era. Have I been lied to?

>>127487595 (OP)
i love sammy
https://youtu.be/gWoM64toqpY

>>127487868
>Have I been lied to?
Absolutely. VH1 and 1984 almost out sold the entire sammy era by themselves. Part of the confusion is that sammy era DID have several "#1 albums"- as Sammy will be the first to tell you...but all that means is they sold more than the next guy that first week or 2. 1984 outsold 5150 by far in the first month of their respective releases but 1984 was up against Thriller- the best selling album of all time lol- and thus only came in #2

>>127487595 (OP)
I like it all.

As the other guy says above though, Cherone wasn't the problem with Van Halen III, it was Eddie's alcoholism. Cherone could bring the goods live and the setlists were great during his stint - he wasn't a bitch about doing the Roth stuff like Hagar was but then he also had the vocal chops to do the Hagar stuff which Roth wouldn't (and probably couldn't) do.

How was Ozzy's replacement by Dio seen when it happened?

>>127487868
Don't know about commercially successful, but they made more money as Van Hagar. It has been implied by both Alex and Michael.

>>127487595 (OP)
The guy who replaced Ian Gillan in Deep Purple in the early 90s.

>>127487595 (OP)
the lesbian religious leader in Linkin Park now

>>127490549
She'd already left the cult years ago.

>>127487595 (OP)
Ripper in Judas riest

>>127487868
>>127487941
>>127490264

1 - Van Halen (1978): .........................................11,858,000 - UNITS SOLD
2 - 1984 (1984): ..................................................11,777,305
3 - 5150 (1986): ....................................................6,896,397
4 - Van Halen II (1979): .........................................5,369,000
5 - Best of, Volume I (1996): ..................................4,202,125
6 - OU812 (1988): ..................................................4,133,370
7 - Diver Down (1982): ...........................................4,122,420
8 - Balance (1995): .................................................3,749,690
9 - Women & Children First (1980): ........................3,370,000
10 - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (1991): ..........3,260,000
11 - Fair Warning (1981): .........................................2,108,000
12 - Right Here, Right Now - Live (1993): ................1,125,000
13 - The Best of Both Worlds (2004): ..........................801,902
14 - Van Halen III (1998): .............................................700,000
15- A Different Kind of Truth (2012): ...............................40,000

hope this helps

>>127487625
3rd best-selling
see above

Best albums #1 and #11

>>127487595 (OP)
yoko ono

>>127490670
>11 - Fair Warning (1981): .........................................2,108,000
More like Unfair Warning. Also Balance higher than F.U.C.K?

>>127487837
Holy shit, the Sammy era was utter trash

>>127490670
>Van Halen III failed to crack a million
BASED CHERONE

>>127491057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwsficnHmhM

Lmao Gene Simons tried to sabotage them by telling them to change their name to Daddy Long Legs

>>127488028
based ADKOT admirer. that album is very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiJkkO9YGLg

>>127487595 (OP)
Mike Love

>>127490670
So, according to this, Van Halen 1 and 1984 outsold the entire Hagar era by a wide margin.

>>127487595 (OP)
the bitch in Linkin Park

>>127493894
ADKoT is autonecrophilia... Just reheated leftovers from the 70s. Even the cover is reheated leftovers.

>>127487595 (OP)
Blaze Bailey. I caught a show from the Virtual XI tour. He sucked.

>>127488162
when Dio took the stage everyone threw up peace signs. Dio smiled, shook his head and threw up the horns.
more than half of the Heaven and Hell album got regular airplay and was second only to Back in Black that summer.
Dio was fucking great.

ITS 5150 TIIIIIIIIIME

>>127496350
>Just reheated leftovers from the 70s
>no....you cant use songs from their best era
half the songs were brand new

>>127487595 (OP)
The singer for Van Halen could be susan boyle and it wouldn't matter.

>>127487837
>>127487941
>>127490670
It's not at all interesting to know how much they've sold NOW. What's interesting is how much and how fast they sold albums back then.

And as you can see 5150 sold around the same amounts for the first 6 months as 1984.

Van Halen's debut most likely started to sell more after Jump was released and 1984 started to sell again after 5150 was released. That's usually how consumer patterns work.

>>127493919
Dont tell Sammy

>>127487868
>>127490264
They had four straight #1 albums with Sammy Hagar and several hit singles. If you go by charts the Van Hagar period was way more successful.
>>127488162
Most people loved it. Ozzy Sabbath was seen as old tired dinosaurs by the end of the 70s and Dio was seen as a much needed injection.
>>127490525
The European tour they did with Joe Lynn Turner was really successful.

>>127497160
>as you can see 5150 sold around the same amounts for the first 6 months as 1984
>1984 whent 4x times platinum (4 million sold) in 10 months...5150 took almost 3yrs

is this Sammy cope?

>>127497251
>If you go by charts the Van Hagar period was way more successful.
Roth-era did have their only #1 single however

>>127497359
My statement was true no matter what.
>is this Sammy cope?
Nope. I like both eras.

>>127497520
>My statement was true no matter what the facts
fify

You only have 1984 data from 2 months and 10 months....so, how do you know how many it had sold at 6mos? you dont. You are trying to make your narrative fit...when the facts say that 1984 sold as many albums in 10 months as 5150 did in almost 3yrs...and in the end sold amost twice as mich as 5150 to date.

The famous and best selling 5150 amp was named after their best selling album. We know which van halen was the best and most successful.

>>127497590
5150 went multiplatinum faster than any Roth album; two months for 5150 and nine months for 1984. So the Van Hagar narrative is that they were instantly more commercially successful.

David gilmour

>>127497707
When did 1984 go 2x Platinum?

>>127497739
1985

>>127497739
I don't know the exact date, I just know that's Sammy's explanation for saying his era was bigger. By all other metrics it's not true, but using this arbitrary time of sales in the first two months after release, 5150 was the biggest. I guess they do statistics differently down in Cabo.

>>127497590
1984 continued to sell because Van Halen started to put out straight to #1 albums and MTV kept playing Jump and Hot for Teacher.

Anyways, 1984 is barely more than an EP, and probably would've been better as a 4-track EP

>>127497719
Hey Roger. Your solo music sucks btw.

>>127493902
I wish I could go back in time and kill him for ruining SMiLE. All we have now are ai mixes and Brian's solo version when he was already too old and had dental work that ruined his voice.

>>127496930
Brand new is a stretch. They were songs we had not heard before and some of them were VHIII follow-up leftovers that got scrapped when WB dropped them. As Is, HoneyBabySweetieDoll, The Trouble With Never were all written in VH's dark period of 1998-2004. Ed had been playing pieces of all that music during appearances at NAMM and other one off events for a while. As Is specifically was played at a NAMM 2003 appearance. Sadly, I have sincere doubts Eddie wrote much after around 2007 when he got sober. Even the latest VH track "Unfinished" that Alex put out is from 1996.

>>127487837
>1984 outsold debut album
debut album mogs 1984 in track quality and even has twice as many singles. awful taste