Thread 127487880

>During an appearance on "The Tucker Carlson Show", conservative rocker Aaron Lewis was asked for his opinion of Bruce Springsteen, who can best be described as Lewis's political polar opposite, having been a vocal opponent to U.S. president Donald Trump on many occasions. The STAIND frontman said of the New Jersey-bred musician who became rock 'n' roll's voice of the working class (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "I think that he is a disgusting display of not appreciating what was handed to him, in this country as being an American, the success that he has had. The fact that he duped us all with one of the most anti-American songs ever and called it 'Born In The USA' as some sort of celebration of how great it is to be born in the USA. I'm angry at myself for not seeing it for so long and actually giving him, in my mind, the credit of being a representation of blue-collar America."

Was Born in the USA really too subtle?

>>127487880 (OP)
>Retarded aged butt rocker couldn't understand sarcasm until he was in his fifties
I'll take literally anything from the Boss over Staind.

He didn't dupe anyone, Republicans are just media illeterate.

Whatever Bruce was in 1975 he isn't anymore, he's been totally insulated from the real world for 40 years now.

>>127487880 (OP)
>Jewish nu metal vocalist reinvents himself as a right-wing "political country" singer

Bit of a weird shift

>>127487880 (OP)
PWNED amirite or amIright?

>>127487880 (OP)
>Lewis's political polar opposite
true, Springsteen is a full-blown communist

>>127487880 (OP)
>The fact that he duped us all with one of the most anti-American songs ever and called it 'Born In The USA' as some sort of celebration of how great it is to be born in the USA
Based retard who didn't even listen to the song.
That song is not and has never been about how great it is to be American

>>127487903
The Boss is gay and so are you. :)

>>127487880 (OP)
everything is too subtle for conservatards. 50 year olds with a 3rd grade reading level.

>>127487880 (OP)
So why hasn't Mr. Politically Outspoken and anti-USA imperialism Bruce uttered a peep about USA's total support of Israel's endless war on Middle Eastern Arabs though it's literally been front page news for the past 3 years?

He''s always just been a complete parrot of the politics of Jewish boomer rock critics and their deep dislike of jingoist working class Americans while at the same time hypocritically in total support of Jewish/Israeli nationalism..

>>127487880 (OP)
The irony of this being spoken by a fucking kike of all people

The goyim restored your Sanhedrin.
The goyim liberated your birthright.
The goyim saved your asses from genocide.
The goyim pulled your asses out of the ghetto.
Fuck the goyim.

>>127487880 (OP)
>one of the most anti-American songs ever and called it 'Born In The USA'
always found it kind of hilarious, but also sad, that Americans pumped their fists to this, played it at sporting events, etc.
just reinforced those American stereotypes

>>127487938
Not really, Staind's fanbase was always very white trash (I say this as someone who thinks Break the Cycle is a great album) so it's a smart move on his part.

>>127488089
ableist bigot

Tucker is a glowie and a pussy

>>127487898
Nah, Bruce Springsteen sucks huge dick. Give me Break The Cycle over anything that Jersey faggot ever played.

The worship of Springsteen by music critics and their ilk is so fucking bizarre.

Springsteen is yet another guy who never could into studio and always just tried to make his albums sound like his live shows.

>>127488691
he sounded different and refreshing in the mid-70s because he wasn't tied into hippie flights of fancy

Being absolutely retarded is kind of a prerequisite for being a conservicuck.

>>127487880 (OP)
I'm so glad we have true rock bands like Staind, Trapt and 3 Doors Down on our side MAGAbros

>>127487880 (OP)
>The fact that he duped us all with one of the most anti-American songs ever and called it 'Born In The USA' as some sort of celebration of how great it is to be born in the USA.
that doesnt even make any sense. bruce has never denounced the usa

>>127487880 (OP)
>a jew
>being ungrateful
you don't say

Born in the U.S.A. came out 41 years ago how long did it take these retards to read the fucking lyrics

>>127487880 (OP)
>LE BOSS
What is he the boss of? Shit Dadrock?

>>127491427
>Got in a little hometown jam
>So they put a rifle in my hand
>Sent me off to a foreign land
>To go and kill the yellow man
Sounds based.

>>127489468
even this fucking hack would get the meaning of the song but he’s probably only heard the chorus

Speaking of duping people, nice lyrics bald jew, it reads like a kids poem
>And it’s been awhile…
>And it’s been awhile…
>And it’s been awhile…
>And it’s been awhile…

>>127488726
not true at all

>>127487898
>>127487903

>pay for insulin
>good
That's inhumane, and Lewis is a rich asshole. Why do poor and middle-class people still listen to these assholes? They're the first to ask for social security when they can no longer leech off residuals.

>>127488544
>The goyim saved your asses from genocide
The goyim also did the genocide and the Nazis basically killed everyone they had access to in Europe the ones who survived were the ones who’d gotten away already pre war

>>127493185
The Nazis killed more non-Jews than Jews. They targeted white Poles.

>>127493197
So?

>>127487880 (OP)
Springsteen sucks horribly, but this is such a stupid way to try and criticize him.

I thought the song was anti-war, not anti-American

Or is he saying being anti-war IS anti-American?

>>127487880 (OP)
>Was Born in the USA really too subtle?
He might have been stupified by all the bombastic wailing in Springsteen's music and critical praise of a man who embodies the mystical essence of America. Like a sensitive Brando... or a macho James Dean... who told tales of the hard streets. He believed the stories.

>>127488691
>The worship of Springsteen by music critics and their ilk is so fucking bizarre.
His act was the first great enforced consensus in rock criticism. For some reason they prohibited any rational person from disagreeing with the idea that Springsteen is a generational touchstone, someone who expresses the very idea of his generation. It was illegal to disagree, and if you hadn't listened to him at all, you were part of the problem.

>>127493305
untrue they'd already canonized a bunch of 60s rock guys before that

BTW Rolling Stone Mag was literally a Springsteen advertisement front. Jon Landau produced his albums after album #2 and Dave Marsh was married to a Springsteen publicist. So the Springsteen dick slurping mostly originated from there. Even Cuckgau didn't love everything the guy did while RSM would give 5 star ratings to everything even shitty late career albums no one bought.

>>127489165
bro i saw the artists who endorsed Bernie Sanders and it was all the most insufferable NPR coffee shop kinds of people

Aaron Lewis looking a little zesty, a little moist

>>127493628
>bro i saw the artists who endorsed Bernie Sanders and it was all the most insufferable NPR coffee shop kinds of people
at least those guys sang about stuff that actually matters unlike Kid Rock

Bruce Springsteen is a great litmus test for finding morons. Just read some of the dumbass shit posted ITT.

>>127493831
t. Jan Wenner

>>127493663
>some soijack singing the most pathetic whinefests about how his hipster girlfriend left him
>actually mattering

>>127493628
>bro i hate people who can actually read and never went to jail before.

>>127487880 (OP)
Imagine owing your whole career to Fred Durst and thinking anything you have to say matters

>>127493889
of course Springsteen owes most of his career to mouthing Jon Landau's songs so meh

>>127493628
Also that's the same people who are endorsing Mamdami or however the hell you spell his name.

>>127493907
so?

>>127493831
it's extremely tedious to see another schizo narrative taking shape before you. now i know how girafags feel

>>127493856
newfags don't remember that indie bands like Bon Iver used to be essential /mu/core

>i live in a world where people who like staind feel comfortable expressing that opinion on /mu/
what happened to us?

>>127493934
Well no I don't think anyone actually listens to Staind it's more a case of most of the people who say Staind sucks will then tell you TPAB and Beach House are essential listening. Protip: They both suck

>>127487880 (OP)
Why does bro always wear a hat lol

>>127493960
what do you listen to?

>>127487880 (OP)
>I'm angry at myself for not seeing it for so long and actually giving him, in my mind, the credit of being a representation of blue-collar America."
LOOOOOL this guy openly admitted to being sub 100 iq. is this the master race i keep hearing about..

>>127493960
That's less an argument for taste than the fact that Millenials lack it altogether.

>>127487898
This. Bruce can sell out football arenas. Staind plays dinky little amphitheaters to 1000 people lmao

Springsteen is lame, but Staind is one of the worst bands of all time.

>>127494017
they're not from the same era/generation so it's not entirely fair to compare them any dadrock act could sell arenas

>>127494017
>Bruce can sell out football arenas.
according to nu/mu/ it's only because jann wenner is somehow blasting every ticket buyer in north america with the bruce beam

>>127494048
Everyone knows RSM has been a Springsteen advertisement rag for decades. That was never in dispute.

Both Bruce Springsteen and Tom Waits are completely fake people with false images.

>>127494064
This might shock you, but Sean Connery wasn't really a secret agent.

>>127494031
Lmao the cope! Limp Bizkit was a contemporary to Staind and they headline festivals

There wouldn't have been buttrock without Springsteen to invent that sound.

>guy dressed in jeans and flannel yelling about his feels in a voice that sounds like he has a wad of cum in his mouth
>no riffs or solos just a wall of lunkheaded power chords

>>127494079
I'm fine with Springsteen and Waits being called actors - by you by the way, you did that. Seethe on (YOU WILL).

>>127494104
Sounds like you've created a fake problem to get mad at for no reason.

>>127487880 (OP)
>CONSERVATIVE HOT TAKES VOICED BY LITERALLY WHOM NEWS AT 10

>>127494157
imagine the time and effort spent posting this when you could be outside getting fresh air, meeting women, having sex etc

>>127494185
no one cares, normie

>>127494185

you're fat and poor

>>127494185
Xe can't do that, xe has a gaping wound where xis dick used to be.

>>127493185
Where are 6 million charred skeletons? You know, you can't fully burn a skeleton in under an hour, let alone 15 minutes; apart from collagen it's calcium after all.
Maybe 5 million? 4? Ok at least one million? Damn it, 500k charred skeletons?
I'm just asking, don't worry I believe in this undoubtedly true event with religious fervor, after all even the slightest questioning of it is a crime and brands one an antisemite for the rest of their life amrite

>>127494261
no one:
not a soul:
not even big chungus:
incels: TRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>127494097
^This. There's no Staind unless they get the idea from somewhere.

Pre-2016 /mu/ would never have defended either buttrock or Springsteen.

Buttrock bands are a rudiment from the Bush years when Republican seed money was funding music from red states. This was back in the early days of USAID bucks when it backed propaganda from both parties until Obama changed it so only Democrat propaganda was funded.

lmao the anon actually going insane because fake cunt Waits got mentioned

>>127493960
TPAB sure but Beach House is cool.

>>127494097
He deserves damnatio memoriae for creating Eddie Vedder’s vocal style.

>>127494377
>tranime fag
>both parties are dum I'm so smart and above it all
end yourself

>>127494064
In Tom Waits case it was fine because at least constructed an interesting character While Bruce was just full on selling a fake image of himself.

>>127493970
Why are they ALWAYS in their cars?

>>127494377
Staind is from one of the bluest regions of the country so nice wrong headcanon you dumb tranime faggot

>>127494097
I never made that connectiom before but you're very right.

>>127493970
I don't get it. Looks like normal working class guys. Is that supposed to be a putdown?

>>127494474
from a tranny perspective it is because those guys look like their redneck uncle from Indiana who called them a faggot so they ran off to Marin County and wear a dress and tights

>>127494097
Heartland Rock is the father of Buttrock

Springsteen has lived in an isolated celebrity bubble for 40 years he completely lost touch with the average person long long ago. He's not the same guy he was in 1975, not at all.

>>127494353
born to run is right there on the /mu/core chart my dude

propaganda works
just repeat some stupid simple meme over and over and 90% will swallow it

>>127494534
especially when you create overgeneralization buckets like "GOP" or "libs" or "trannies" or "racists" or "boomers" that allow you to build entire identities for groups of people nobody has ever met by using human association survival skills against them

>>127494499
It's both the father of buttrock and all the lame indie that eventually eclipsed it.
The War On Drugs is also very Springsteen.
It's why garage rock reigns supreme. It's the only genre uneffected by the pozzload of heartlandslop

I agree Springsteen influenced a lot of trends a lot of it not necessarily good but he's basically not allowed to be called out for it.

I don't like Springsteen's music but I like his attitude

>>127487880 (OP)
>>127488620
>>127489165
>>127493889
>>127494084

I like staind's first album (tormented)

>>127494559
big deal the heartland rock scene in the 80s was always DNC fundraiser bullshit

>>127493185
If all goyim are bad then all jews are bad.

>>127494698
That's great. Now explain how that has anything to do with anything I said at all.

If all goyim are bad, then all jews are my enemy. Why would I tolerate them?

>>127494518
The Republicans have gotten good through smart targeting in marketing themselves as the Coors Light brand in contrast to coffeehouse NPR liberals on the Democrat side. In the 1970s, the 'working-class everyman' who Springsteen supposedly represented really was (relatively) apolitical. Another good example is rodeo, which in the 70s was for good ol'boy fuckups who liked to drink beer and get on bulls because they're insane. Now it's evangelical country all the way. It's similar in trucking, it was big in 70s popular culture and not right-wing at all but more bucking the system in a general kind of way:
https://youtu.be/Sd5ZLJWQmss

>>127495666
in truth that started as early as 1968 when Nixon emerged as the champion of working class middle America and Democrats were increasingly becoming the party of coffee shop hipsters

>>127494518
As for example he...

>makes a career crying about the decline of the Rust Belt and how a man used to be able to buy a suburban house and have a wife and 2 kids on a floor worker's wages
>goes and whines about Trump after Trump proposed bringing back industrial jobs

>>127495725
he adopted the politics of the rich jewish rock critics who made him a star.
he knows what butters his bread.

>>127495666
all the way to the 90s most pop music was comparatively not political unless it was political folkies like Peter, Paul, and Mary. the reason that mostly changed was when USAID was started to be funding propaganda music. that ended up with one side of artists mostly country or buttrockers who endorsed Republicans and coffee shop hipsters who endorsed Democrats. of course there had always been artists who took a political stance like Frank Sinatra, but in that case it was his personal beliefs and not because he was getting government checks for it.

>>127496557
Not saying you're wrong or anything but only washed boomer musicians seems to endorse Trump while the Democrat supporting ones are younger. i mean Staind are old fucks who peaked over 20 years ago and don't get me started on literal boomers Ted Nugent and Gene Simmons.

>>127496585
that was because since Obama propaganda money only fund Democrat leaning acts so most of the younger artists who emerged since 2010 are naturally blue checked because that was only way to get money

>>127496557
I think the first clear division of that was in 1968 when Nixon was endorsed by some country singers the dudeweed hip crowd supported RFK and Humphrey supporters were assorted guido and tradpop people like Sinatra.

>>127493907
>Mamdami
One of the few non ZOGged western politicians you stupid MIGAtard

>>127496753
> the beach boys took part in some politically conservative events in late sixties.
get pretty much erased through 70's and 80's from critic's narratives on history of rock .
> guess who perform at a trisha nixon party at white house
also pretty much erased from rock narrative by left-wing critics, still to this day not getting even a whiff for rock hall of fame, despite having close to double digit big hit songs that were clearly as firmly in the guitar rock tradition as the more politically left-leaning bands/artists from same era regarded as legends in critic's narratives.
> i see a theme here.

>>127496837
The Carpenters were much loathed by rock critics and one of the big reasons for that was that they performed at the Nixon White House.

>>127487880 (OP)
He's right. The Boss betrayed his audience and invalidating his entire life's work by promoting the worst of the worst - Kerry, Obama, Harris, Biden.

>>127487880 (OP)
The Democratic Party is anti-working class in indirect ways.
The Republican Party is anti-working class in open ways and they're proud of it.

>>127496753
But even so the real change was when USAID started in the 90s to literally fund propaganda which made music much more politicized than it had once been. It was already apparent during the Bush years when albums like Unleashed were obvious propaganda pieces the White House paid for.

>>127487880 (OP)
>During an appearance on "The Tucker Carlson Show"
stopped reading famalamalam

>>127496878
He obeyed the commands of Jan Wenner and Jon Landau just like he's been doing for decades now so...meh.

>>127488577
Yeah, I'm bigoted against retards. What's your point?

>>127496892
>USAID started in the 90s to literally fund propaganda which made music much more politicized
not true btw

>>127496837
is the theme that right wingers make shitty, forgettable schlock?

>>127487903
>media literacy
That's the best you got?

>>127497220
btw don't look up their early life sections on Wikipedia

>>127488089
Subtley is anti-autism, and will be dealt with through violence

>>127497312
>is the theme that right wingers make shitty, forgettable schlock?

You saying Shillie Eilish and Buttindie Band #894 aren't forgettable schlock?

>>127497324
when did i say that?

>>127493305
Yeah thats why I never liked him. Im an outsider. He always seemed phony.

>>127497343
He might have been sincere on the first two albums but not once he became RSM's puppet rocker.

>>127493243
>Or is he saying being anti-war IS anti-American
Depends on how you look at it

People who rag against right wingers are so depressing. We get it. You're the good guy. You get your self-worth from walking on the short bus and picking on the retards.

Hating Bruce Springsteen is pleb zoomer shit. Born to Run is one of the greatest rock LPs of the 20th century.

>>127497354
and the poor sods won't even get government checks for it anymore

>>127497354
>"stop being mean to me!"
no.

>>127497296
It would be interesting if it were true

>>127497312
> no, but i did track down what the beach boys did that caused the left-wing media gatekeepers to try to erase them from music history for a while
i knew i read it somewhere but couldn't find anything on it anywhere, but then remembered it was connected to the jim morrison exposing himself incident.
> there were a bunch of rallies across country for youth called 'rallies for decency' in response
and beach boys performed at one to the eternal damnation from the limosine libs in the rock music press
https://www.reddit.com/r/thebeachboys/comments/1clqaaz/heres_a_weird_one_teens_in_tulsa_ok_were_treated/

>>127497354
i wouldn't give a shit about them if they didn't constantly try to make life shittier for everyone who isn't a millionaire

Nonetheless BITUSA was not the greatest album of 1984 like Christgau thought it was.

>>127487880 (OP)
>Aaron Lewis
Who?