Thread 127492766

What went wrong? It's almost like they're different musicians compared to the ground breaking music they made in their early years. You can't even just say it's age because Megadeth made some of their best stuff in their later years.

Fans always want bands to go back to the early years man and they did but they just make the most basic and stock version of their genre when being forward thinking and progressive is what made them the leaders of it.

>>127492766 (OP)
Cliff. He wasn't just a bass player. He was the theoryfag of the group. Sometimes he even wrote the parts for the other guys, like Orion. That was all an elaborate bass solo like Anesthesia at first, but they wanted to put the group in more..so he transcribed all of their parts for them.

>>127492801
In every band there's always a maximum of one guy who actually knows anything about music and the rest are just fiddling.

>>127492814
>In every band there's always a maximum of one guy who actually knows anything about music
in the case of Aerosmith that was Brad Whitford

>>127492766 (OP)
>made some of their best stuff in their later years.
Examples?

>>127493085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7Kly-72fc

Sudden Death from 2010. They made it for Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock

>>127492766 (OP)
Wealth is a talent killer

>>127492830
RHCP had John Frusciante, KISS had Ace Frehley Motley Crue had Mick Mars the other guys were all just along for the ride.

>>127492766 (OP)
>why aren't these people the same persons they were 45 years ago? why do people change?
let me guess: you're underage and are just encountering the black album for the first time

>Megadeth made some of their best stuff in their later years.
lol
lmao

>>127493638
flea is based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8itum6etNcM

>>127492766 (OP)
They paid their dues and then some. That one Metalocalypse episode was right

>>127493085
https://youtu.be/dQ_-tUKT-nY?list=RDdQ_-tUKT-nY

>>127492814
In Metallica's case it was Dave Mustaine and they lived off his taped guitar licks for years and finally sucked once they ran out of them.

>>127492766 (OP)

>It's almost like they're different musicians compared to the ground breaking music they made in their early years.

they’re different people. imagine performing songs you wrote when you were 20 in your 60s.

>>127493085
Killing joke. Thrash metal bands are unable of this bc their zeitgeist is when they are young

>>127493123
>modern megadeth
Lmao

>>127493085
>>127493736
I still consider this "later years" even though it's from 16 years ago:
https://youtu.be/f9WxA7cnMr8?list=RDf9WxA7cnMr8

>>127493749
>In Metallica's case it was Dave Mustaine
Amazing how petty megakeks fags can be. Just as their martyr

They peaked with the black album and decided to do more of that, but they were pretty much spent of good ideas other than a few good singles off load/reload. They finally came to their senses and made a good album again with Hardwired, but they were 2 decades too late.

>>127493749
don't you have a show to get ready for this evening, Dave? you'll be late.

>>127493785
>>127493871
ignore him. he's in EVERY metallica thread screeching. his cock is thoroughly lodged in his throat

>>127493866
>They peaked with the black album and decided to do more of that, but they were pretty much spent of good ideas other than a few good singles off load/reload
TBA was the last album where they still had some Mustaine riff tapes left.

>>127492766 (OP)
Nothing. They were right about everything and WE were the retards. Death Magnetic is one of their most creative albums period. St. Anger is just some crappy production issues but the best thrash bangers of the 21st century. Hardwired's first three singles, were some of the best songs the band has written since the 1980s. 72 Seasons is Lars and Letfield reborn after their intensive physical training to powerhouses even if its really boring at times you can't deny they are in a massive groove live and this could be in their best condition as a band.

>>127492766 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Its how they produce new music now. Write mundane shit on the fly in the studio. Hit record. Done. Plus that Greg Fidelman guy ruins everything he touches. And in the end it also comes down to that they aren't as hungry and motivated as they were when they started out. Millionaires do not make good music. Period.

>>127492801
Cliff's influence and contributions to the band are extremely exaggerated. Everyone loves to say if he was still around the band would still be amazing but that's just bullshit
It's always been James and Lars in charge

>>127493736
This was all Kiko
Kiko was the best gutiarist Megadeth had since Friedman and even he couldn't stand being around Dave any longer and quit

>>127496636
everyone gets bored and lazy if they stay in the game too long

>>127493638
You mean Ace Frehley is more important than Paul Stanley? Are you retarded?

>>127496690
Yeah but Cliff brought some extra spice with the grand instrumentals, some fuzzy bass experimentation and Lovecraftian lore.

Once J and Lars were left as the sole group's creative direction, they pushed the band in a very dry direction (AJFA, black album, etc).

>>127493749
True
>>127493785
>>127496690
False

>>127492766 (OP)
money, ego and clout

>>127492766 (OP)
He's not a good drummer.

He really isn't.

And their success?

You know what? A lot of is based off of me.

>>127493085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE034YcMba4
>>127499085
>He's not a good drummer.
He's really not. He was kinda creative with his syncopation in the 80s, but even back then he was not a tight drummer as he was speeding up and slowing down all over those early albums and in later years he's become lazy and never practices.

>>127493749

This is believable considering how Megadeth has carried themselves through the years.

>>127492766 (OP)
James being too proud of his "legacy" and wanting to stick with the Metallica name instead of going solo and just making music he's passionate about and uncompromised. his stupid need to "keep the family together" (even though he divorced his wife).

>>127499153
St. Anger is ironically the last time he had anything resembling a good idea when it comes to drumming or arranging. and post recovery James is too soft to put him in his place anymore so now we get Metallica by committee and it fucking sucks

>>127492766 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Young alcoholics who found success raging against their shitty fathers became rich and fathers themselves - so the rage that fueled their early thrash and was the foundation of their success vanished.