Thread 127496501

We're seeing female artists connect with young women big time. Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Sabrina Carpenter, Chappel Roan, Tate McRae Gracie Abrams, etc. I would argue young womens connection with their favorite pop stars is one of the few healthy things in our society right now. It feels honest to me. Meanwhile there is also the men they're attracted to like Harry Styles etc.

Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z? If it's just about the record companies being stupid and not giving it to us, you would think the old songs could thrive. But the biggest old songs on spotify are still things like Iris or Dreams is big right now due to girls connecting with Stevie Nicks. Zach Bryan feels like he's speaking to males, but is not as big as the huge female ones.

Can we really say Gen Z men care about music as much as Gen Z girls? What if they're just hard nosed guys that care more about the bills or something?

>>127496501 (OP)
I like metal and classical, my friend likes bluegrass, my other friend likes hardstyle, my other friend likes classic rock, another friend likes ska. I think we just have more heterogeneous taste.

>>127496501 (OP)
>Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z?
drill rappers and whatever that faggot shit netspend and that little xavier nog make

>>127496673
Not music.

>>127496501 (OP)
girls who'd go to a Sabrina concert ought to put out pretty easily, no?

>>127496501 (OP)
>I would argue young womens connection with their favorite pop stars is one of the few healthy things in our society right now.
That's tragic.

The industry turned up its nose at men as punishment for piracy

>>127496501 (OP)
women like to feel part of a group, this is the way it's always been.

Woman just connect more deeply to the artists they care about...simple as

Chappell had a crowd of 90,000 doing the HOTOGO arm gestures yesterday.

>>127496501 (OP)
idk but i see way more bitching from the guys, so based females in this case

>>127496501 (OP)
Gen Z males love vidya
On average, it seems zoomer females like all older forms of media more

Gen Z girls are literal Goddesses among men.

>>127496501 (OP)
I think it's more this "girly pop" subgenre is the current zeitgeist in mainstream music. It's at such a fever pitch that even the C-Tier ones are selling out arenas. Gen Z men are listening to music but it's the women you mention or like rock and rap that doesn't move the needle.

>>127496501 (OP)
It's nothing new just a second scene collapse. Remember when in the late 00s/early10s Justin Bieber and shit like Rebecca black were the heavily played while there was really nothing new aside from same old bands? Same story, we are just again in a new industry depression.

>>127497568
thanks for the tip /r/music

>>127496501 (OP)
For Alt Whites we aren't doing because we are passive faggots with no drive and irony poisoning. There's still tons of ear raping nigger shit. If only Whole Lotta Red didn't have the impact it did.

It's just easier to make money pandering to women.

>>127496501 (OP)
We are happy existing on the fringes

>>127497580
Thank you also check out my favs Foo Fighters and Queen

>>127497575
>Remember when in the late 00s/early10s Justin Bieber and shit like Rebecca black were the heavily played while there was really nothing new aside from same old bands?
no shit there was a major economic recession back then the industry majorly cut back on A&R budgets

Poptimism must have been a ploy to rein men into the current cultural monolith

>>127497628
was that like the early 60s when they killed off rock and roll by crashing all of their planes/drafting them in the Army/jailing them so for a while there was just teen idols and singing black girls with pageboy haircuts?

>>127497647
actually yes and Freddy Cannon was just like the MGK of the early 60s

Men face more pressure from capitalism to dehumanize themselves into worker drones.

>>127497664
Well no not really because MGK was never aimed at current teenage girls but adult Millenial women who were presumed nostalgic for shitty pop punk.

>>127497664
MGK would only wish he had a song half as fun as Transistor Sister though.

The Universal Music Group don't give a fuck about me. This is so dehumazing.

>>127497647
Maybe so but they still had good even iconic songs which is not anything Swift or Carpenter have done.

>>127496501 (OP)
Rock and Oasis just came back

>>127497647
That's not even fair for one thing a lot of that music came out of regional and indie labels which is not the case today with the Big Three monoculture, but then again the 50s-60s were almost a fluke and not the normal way the industry has always worked.

Gen z men know their place as working dogs. They aren't here to have fun.

>>127497737
>That's not even fair for one thing a lot of that music came out of regional and indie labels which is not the case today with the Big Three monoculture, but then again the 50s-60s were almost a fluke and not the normal way the industry has always worked.
Explain?

>>127497760
That the industry was very decentralized with lots of regional labels and then re-centralized in the 70s which created a rock and especially LA rock monoculture.

>>127497672
I see more women workaholics than men

>>127496501 (OP)
Taylor Swift and Lana Del Rey aren't Young anymore. Sabrina, Roan, Rae and Abrams is a pretty depressing selection in all honesty.

>Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z? If it's just about the record companies being stupid and not giving it to us
Labels and producers being faggots but also the fact the generational culture is a corrupt hellhole ran on TikTok virality, Astroturfing, propaganda and cruelty. I'll put my hat in the ring but it's depressing as fuck.

Ken Carson, Yeat, Osamason, Nettspend, Fakemink, Xaviersobased, Destroy Lonely, NBA Youngboy,

Also some of the dead ones like Pop Smoke, XXXTentacion, Juice WRLD and Wifiskeleton

In a perfect world for me it would be JVB, La Reezy, Detahjae, Johnasscus, Lil Darkie, XXXTentacion, Baby Keem, Craig Scissorhands, That Mexican OT, Baby Kia, Recdveil, Babycheifdoit, Love-sadkid, Peysoh, Aeter etc

But things are shifting regardless. Guys born in 2010 are turning 16 next year (Yung Lean, Chief Keef, Nettspend, Redveil, Earl Sweatshirt, Tyler The Creator, Capital Steez, Joey Bada$$, Silverchair all coming up around this age or 17).

Whether you consider them Gen Z or Gen Alpha there's probably gonna be a push there imo).

If someone uses

Reddit spacing

Then I don't reply to it

Simple as

>>127497647
maybe. i dunno.

I can only speak for myself but I mostly listen to old rock and rap music. You have so many options now up don't need to listen to new stuff if it doesn't appeal to you

>>127497785
>Labels and producers being faggots but
always have been. you should see what they said about Elvis back in the day. even tried to get rock and roll banned from the radio by the FCC.

>>127496501 (OP)
What I noticed is that the genders of this generation (which happens to be mine) like completely different types of music at a much greater disparity than other generations.
Guys like rock music like Aerosmith for example meanwhile other girls like popslop music like Sabrina Carpenter.

>>127497917
That's not quite the same thing as...ah, forget it.

>>127497589
this, they earn less yet spend more

>>127497933
very true, 20yo men love Aerosmith especially the ballads

>>127496501 (OP)
>hard nosed guys that care more about the bills
lol no, the issue here is incels spending their day playing video games, listening to podcasts and arguing about politics on xitter, ofc these "people" don't care about music (also music has always been more popular with women)

>>127498043
that's a ChatGPT post you replied to

>>127496501 (OP)
>Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z?
It’s him

>>127498078
Ragebait makes me feel so seen

>>127497729
Rastas

>>127496501 (OP)
>But the biggest old songs on spotify are still things like Iris or Dreams is big right now due to girls connecting with Stevie Nicks.
????????
Dreams was a tiktok meme. That's why it came back.
I imagine the same thing must be true for Iris.

How is Iris a gendered song anyway. Who is actually falling for this?

>>127498253
also tf wants to remember Iris was a thing anyway? it sucked then and it sucks now.

I'm a man and I annoy friends to death with my Stevie Nicks obsession. The OP should be shot in their bed.

>>127497568
The people demand goonqueens and the industry is happy to provide

We are NOT going back to the era of ugly male manipulators prancing on stage

>>127496501 (OP)
Most of my friends listen to rap. Or whatever you could call it. Faggot rap with retarded and insecure undertones.
Most shit that plays on the radio or in mainstream playlists and festivals lacks any kind of respect for my standard of music and sound. But I suppose it is subjective. For example, I remember hearing this AC unit outside a store that had a very nice tone and full sound with natural modulation, that sparked all kinds of progressions for it in my mind. That experience for me (a gen z man) was 100 times more enjoyable in terms of listening to music (which this post is supposedly about) than having my ears blasted by a horribly mixed low end at a modern rap gig, or the screeching of a 40 something year old Taylor Swift with mediocore vocal abilities. Also not a fan of the whole worshipping a person that is clearly on the same level or below you in taste and ability. Seems almost mentally ill. Probably is if we use the rulebook of psychiatry in an honest way. The artists themselves also develop this princess or prince, or genius like complex that is appalling to look at. Like some nerd kid (me) out there probably listens to Aphex Twin or Autechre and has some jesus like view of them when they can do what made these guys popular with a phone and a daw. Idk what I'm getting at who gives a fuck this is why I don't speak

Sabrina won

>>127498443
OK maybe the entire thread was bait noe that I reread it. I won't believe normies of this caliber spend time on 4chan. Maybe that is what it has come to, perhaps it always was like this idk I open it once a year.

>>127498108
fuck off shillnigger

>>127496501 (OP)
Women tend to obsessed over and idolize celebrities much more than men, especially genz women. Men typically don't care about the singer, and usually just add random songs they like to their playlist and move on. They listen to video game soundtracks, anime and movie soundtracks at a much higher rate than women because of this. The only types of artists men care about are rappers and rockstars, but mostly because they want their lifestyle and clout, not because they genuinely care about the person.

>>127498482
The media boards are egregious about this

>>127498490
he’s topping all the charts right now, he doesn’t need shilling

>>127498499
you are correct however you have wasted effort in replying to a bait.

men be like this women be like that

>>127497664
>cannon
>machine gun

I see what you did there

>>127496501 (OP)
I have been suspecting this for a few years now. If you watch old music award shows like the VMAs and the Grammys from the 90s and compare them to how they are today, they have really shifted towards female and queer audiences. The pivot started around 2010 and has only accelerated since then.

>>127496501 (OP)
>gen z women go crazy over the music equivalent of starbucks while men only enjoy it or just don't care for it
is this a surprise?

>>127496632
Most Gen Z kids I've met were usually into pop for the most part or whatever the fuck Sleep Token is (i hesitate to call them metal, more like trip hop meets post rock)

>>127497447
I'd wager to disagree depending on the artist.

>>127497477
where?

>>127497678
I grew up in that era and never got the deal with any of that stuff, I mean I'm a dude but the only pop punk acts I liked were either Screeching Weasel or melodic hardcore like Avail and Grade.

>>127498078
like I said, depends on the genre or artist.

>>127496501 (OP)
Judging from the Gen Z guys that post here, they seem to like the same stuff as the girls.

>>127496501 (OP)
Future is the Beyonce for men.

Popslop is not music. 99% of worthwhile music is made by men, even today.

>>127496501 (OP)
Their only choices for male music are rap

>>127503524
Rap isn't music though.

>>127500881
>The pivot started around 2010 and has only accelerated since then

Now that the DEI era is done and white guy machismo is back we shall see what happens next.

>>127500881
why did that conveniently happen only after Obama was president? really makes you think don't it?

>>127503607
nobody's going to argue at this point that feminist/LGBT propaganda was pushed from the top down since he was president that's not even in dispute

>>127503629
shut up chud

>>127500881
>>127503629
All the biggest popstars has always been gays. What are you on about?

>>127503629
>shut up chud

>>127496501 (OP)
>Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Sabrina Carpenter, Chappel Roan, Tate McRae Gracie Abrams
not music

>>127497563
gen z girls are fucking unbearable

>>127503790
yeah that Sinatra and that Elvis were real fruits and totally never had sex with thousands of 9/10 women

>>127496501 (OP)
Very disingenuous to pretend mass-manufactured pop fandom is the same as "liking music". Gen Z guys absolutely care about music, just not in the parasocial, chart-fueled way you see with Taylor or Lana.

>>127503607
what a fraud he was. what his electorate wanted was to see Wall Street fatcats strung up from a tree after causing 2008 crash and for end of Bush wars in Middle East. he did neither of those and all we got for our troubles was a gay wedding cake.

>>127503939
Well, at least until it's Drake/Kendrick stans and shit like that.

>>127503950
I never remember him promising that. Trump always had a very clear list of his plans as president Obama just run on some vague hope and change message and never actually said what he intended to do if elected. Never even actually promised he'd end Middle East wars.

>>127503575
Enjoy the rap rock guys

>>127503575
Fair enough. I mean do you really want to walk into the Smithsonian and be greeted by a display about slavery, Indian genocide bad white colonizers bad?

>>127504067
nta but it still might be slightly better than Billie Eilish

>>127502624
Call her fat and see who starts crying.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Cz3utL64RBI?feature=share

To be fair, Lana Del Ray and Taylor Swift are Millennials

>>127496501 (OP)
Women are stupid and like stupid things in large numbers at the same time. Nothing about that has ever changed but it has been made worse because of the internet.

>>127504229
Ding ding ding.
We have the correct answer!

>>127496501 (OP)
This must be some gay article written by some piece of shit low iq moron ass kissing journalist. Yeah cuz gen z men are tired as fuck of garbage poptimism they dont like music lol cuz that's the only music that exists to this retard

>>127496501 (OP)
>Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z?
The industry is catering to wokies so that means straight men are backed into a corner having to do country music because straight men are chuds. Only gays and women matter anymore. Also lots of lesbian talk because the industry wants people to think men are bad

>>127504329
>backed into a corner having to do country music
You think the country music establishment doesn't cater to the types you're speaking of? I wish it didn't because otherwise that might mean men who had songwriting talent and proficiency with their instruments would still be the norm. Instead we have those session musician cocksuckers and a never ending landscape of posers.

fags and lesbians are way better at music than machismo guys. we don’t want them at stage anymore.

>>127504429
who is "we"?

>>127504445
me and the world

>>127497575
>zoomer imagines what life was like for previous generations and gets it wrong because he's a fucking idiot

>>127504329
2022 is over, bro. The DEI vampire has been staked.

>>127504429
>>127500881
didn't they already try dyke rock in the 90s?

>>127504329
that's factually untrue the industry didn't deliberately target straight men for destruction outside /pol/ MS Paint comics. they simply stopped bothering with them because straight guys wouldn't listen to any new rock groups and just listened to stuff from the 70s.

>>127496501 (OP)
Women want to be part of an event. They don't really care to see Sabrina Carpenter perform as much as they care about posting about it online and showing off their pictures from said event to make women that didn't go jealous. That said, as a man I don't see a lot of new music that really interest me. I never cared for rap, which seems to be the most popular genre among boys now. Most rock is dead and what isn't is derivative or is an older nostalgia band charging far too much for tickets. I don't want to pay money for a festival where I only want to see maybe 4 bands the entire weekend, and then most likely get rained out. I sit at home and watch old shows from bands I like and that's enough for me at the moment.

>>127504568
Then why is every talking point and reference point about how men suck and theres tons of lesbian talk and imagery? And every pop star must be bi or queer. Come on now stop being a disingenuous retard. Every dumb fuck pop star has a "gotcha" about how shit men are. Look at Sabrina's new album and chapelles comments about how men dont make good art

>>127497672
bernie lost

I should add that gay men have the world's worst music tastes while at least dykes will listen to metal, punk, rap, and any other aggressive shit while gay men only listens to swishy club/pop bullshit.

>>127504643
>Every dumb fuck pop star has a "gotcha" about how shit men are
of course you wouldn't fault them given that 90% of zoomer "men" have broccoli haircut and cannot sustain erection because they have dick full of microplastics

>>127504672
True but I still see hotties hanging with these morons. Guess they have no one else if theyre straight

>>127504570
It's a bad mix of things. Like me, you're probably just getting old and remember a time (not at all long ago) where problems seen now just simply didn't exist. On the other hand, music really is fucking dogshit right now. One thing I've seen mostly die out since COVID is labels (barring very specific genres - but even then they have a dramatically reduced effect and largely have abandoned the curatorial role they should, but now don't or can't, have). Even as recently as 2020 or so, I knew of quite a few labels reliably releasing new music worth hearing. I struggle now to think of one.

>>127504542
They did. You think if they were trying to push dykeshit then they would have tried to push some kind of Melissa Ethridge or riot grrl revival.

>>127504643
this just happened in the usa. calm down, you chud.

>>127496501 (OP)
bitch these female artist with vast majority female audience has always existed
Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Madonna, Beyonce, Britney Spears, The Ronettes, The Shangri Las, The Crystals, Aretha Franklin
you're looking at a group of women musicians and thinking that's all it

>>127504718
>riot grrl revival

>>127504643
>Look at Sabrina's new album and chapelles comments about how men dont make good art
Why would I do that? Women are incapable of art and history does not lie about it. When given the opportunity and freedom (time and money and materials), even in the aristocratic classes, to make art reaching back into antiquity, as a whole they have produced nothing of value. What they are masters of is not shutting the fuck up and being delusional about their capacity. I don't need to engage with a modern example of that delusion. And to return to the only important response: who the fuck cares what women think or say about art?

>>127504718
if the aim was to just get DEI checks nobody was going to put any effort into that, they were just going to make the same identical low effort pop tracks with presets

>>127502639
me too!

>>127504218
I will!

>>127504752
>>127503499
comparing any of the old legends from the 60s to Olivia Rodrigo is an insult

>>127504797
don't want to say you're wrong or anything but judging by the way this board gets butthurt about 50s pop it seems like the industry was always kind of a shit mill

>>127504783
DEI is a meme it never existed outside right media media blurbs.

>>127504886
go gaslight somewhere else, faggot.

Taylor Swift goes back to the Bush years before DEI existed so I don't think you can accuse her of being part of that.

>>127503965
At least males had the Drake Kendrick beef and Not Like Us.
>>127504329
This is a ding ding ding too. Country is so much more popular than anything else because we literally shunted boys/men into this specific genre and said OK boys have this and girls have everything else. Literally, as a male if you aren't into Country you are opting out of having sex, women know this and specifically get on birth control to go to country concerts. How much sex goes on at country shows will blow your mind.

>>127504998
>>127503499
it's not like the early 60s wasn't also a period when pop music was entirely girly and dudes only had Johnny Cash n sheet for music.

>>127504429
Corpo gay pandering isn't "fags and lesbians"
I take sincere offense that some people expect me to like Chappell or feel kinship with her because of what special interests group I belong to.

>>127505027
I won't deny that. the 59-63 period was when 80% of pop music was for 11 year old girls. there wasn't any rock outside niche scenes like surf rock and guys had nothing but country to listen to.

Now country has been enjoying a revival since Trump's first term while it was mostly crap from 9/11 until about 2015.

>>127505037
It makes me so sick when I see people be forced to wear The Flag at their job like dealing with wageslavery isn't already humiliating enough, you also have to be a puppet for somebody else's political interests. How is that supposed to make me feel proud? Fuck you if you like it.

>>127505061
I agree yet they still had infinitely better standards for songcraft compared to now even as girly as that era was it still produced dozens of classic songs.

>>127505037
>>127505086
there’s no corpo gay pandering, chappell roan is a real lesbian and her art is real. meds now.

>>127505099
She's Tori Amos with a coat of fag hag magic. Who honestly gives a shit.

>>127505099
>chappell roan is a real lesbian
I would bet any amount of money that she isn't, even forgiving the fact that lesbianism is already fake.

Wow, she sings about uhhhh dykes with green hair. She's so gay and knows whats up. She is literally me.

>>127505132
she has a most fine ass though

>>127505141
What difference does it make if she's a real lesbian?? You can still be a gay grifter. Does Pete Buttgieg speak for me too?

>>127505132
we didn't even need the first Tori Amos let alone a reboot

>>127505157
>You can still be a gay grifter
You’re thinking of artists like Prince and David Bowie, their art was trash and fakes. Chappell Roan is a real lesbian.

>>127505157
>Does Pete Buttgieg speak for me too?
Probably he does. Either way, I don't think it makes any difference. I'm just saying that not only is she not a "real" lesbian, she doesn't even prefer women.

There's a wealth of trailblazing queer music out there right now being made by queer people for the right reasons but Chappell is the bigger deal because she has the UMG pass.

>>127505205
> a wealth of trailblazing ... music out there right now
No there isn't. Surely there is a lot of music by queers talking about being queer for other queers to feel real queer about, but as usual the only trail this pleading music makes is skidmarks or toward the PrEP/HRT clinics. Sonically speaking, it's repetitive fucking bullshit.

Music isn't allowed to be angry anymore and that's what most guys wanna listen to.
It was unarguably mostly just astro-turfed, but I heard that god awful Rich Men North of Richmond song in the wild many times. (too many)
It did genuinely resonate with a significant number of guys. And that's because it was allowed to actually be about something, even if only on an extremely surface level and only because of its service to culture war propaganda.
The 2011 millennial mindset of "yeah things are slowly getting worse but don't be a HATER and TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF still lives in women but it's been utterly shattered for men.

as anon said gays always have had horrible music tastes. with rare exception they only like the most nauseating campy pop/club bullshit.

>>127504718
>>127504542
*shakes head*

that was straight guy music producers trying to get girls to sing aggressive music guys would naturally like. most normie girls did not listen to that stuff they were listening to Mariah and Janet back then.

>>127505273
ironically that's what dykes always listened to as well which was angry sounding stuff. they push a lot of dyke stuff aesthetically but not actually the music that demo would listen to.

>Where is the music heroes for male Gen Z?
>Ctrl+F "bladee"
>0 results
nu-/mu/ is more out of touch than me, can't believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_GQvxqf4M

>>127505366
Bladee is old news at this point and even when he was still news, he was niche at his peak. (and I say this as someone who likes a lot of drainslop)
also
>Reddit as a reference for what normal people are up to.

>>127496501 (OP)
>Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Sabrina Carpenter, Chappel Roan, Tate McRae Gracie Abrams, etc

Those are “crap pop stars”. There are male ones too whose audiences are 90% zoomerboys. Morgan Wallen, Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars and Justin Bieber continue to be massively popular. Not one fucking millennial guy listening to them.

>What if they're just hard nosed guys that care more about the bills or something?

The most gay and least tough generation to ever do it. Who rely on mommy and daddy’s bank account. Wake up and smell the cat ears, junior.

The only men that seem to be into music are guys like us who are generally into older stuff, and country guys who are rarer in more yankee educated areas. The normie man these days just listens to podcasts and the news which is the worst slop of all

>>127496501 (OP)
Women don't "like" "music" they like in-groups and following trends and above all to be seen doing certain things.

>>127505439
podcasts are boring especially when they're Tim Poole who is the living personification of Reddit

>>127505409
>whose audiences are 90% zoomerboys.
>Morgan Wallen, Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars and Justin Bieber

yeah gen z "men" are cooked

>>127496501 (OP)
American gen Z """males""" get by on mumblerappers and other assorted nigger or niggerified "musicians"

>>127503939
so men are tourists compared to women?

>>127505462
Ive only realized recently that podcasts are competing with music and winning and making everyone more retarded

>>127497257
Nope. You better be ready to pay to play unless you're a tall white guy or really attractive. I'm not even fucking with you man - it's bad out there right now, just six years ago I used to be able to take bitches to EZs and the mall, or sometimes even Chick-fil-A or Taco Bell with a smoke session at my place or her place was enough.

Now I gotta have a whole day trip planned for the girl to go on more than two dates with me, and they never put out day one anymore even if it's been clearly established that we're just looking for hook ups. You practically gotta have a resume with half these girls now - even the single moms have ridiculous standards now, when just a few years ago they used to be the last resort. It's truly awful out there right now brother, all my homies are single right now except for the two married bros - and for one of those guys it was their girl next door childhood sweetheart (they're great together) and the other groomed her over playstation network from the age of 13 until she was 18, then they met in person and they married within a year of her turning 18.

I used to have a problem with grooming but now I understand why humans have always done it - women just turn absolutely ratchet if you don't program them young. I see how happy my bro is with his hot and loving wife eight years younger than him and now I just feel envious, like fuck man here I am fighting like hell for washed up scraps and their little crotch goblins asking me to buy them ice cream and vbucks and shark cards, while my homeboy is playing Helldivers 2 with his hot wife who cooks and cleans for him and works a day job, and she fucking loves him so much man like crazy they've been together ten years now too so it seems to be a permanent thing. It's a similar story with my bro and his childhood sweetheart she's just so good to him.

>>127497292
>>127497447
Women are herding animals, so men need to be shepherds again because our flock is now unruly and needs the rod

>>127505462
The only good podcast ever was Cumtown

>>127505807
With all due respect, and while I give literally zero respect to zoomer women, I think you're trying too hard. You're right that it has to do with attractiveness. I've never had to fight for a girl, they always tossed it at me. Part of that though is that I am aloof and quite dismissive. Them having a cunt and a cute face has never been enough to put a sparkle in my eye. Women like to be chased but not by the ones they most want to fuck. This has never changed and it won't be any different in zoomer girls or any other girl that follows. The only thing I can say is that, assuming you're not ugly (if you are it's already over), what I've said is not a strategy. If you honestly do not give a fuck about their assumed power, they will find it sexually intolerable. All games will momentarily disappear until one of them ruins your life with love.

>>127505366
Bladee isn't a zoomer

>>127503790
Do you know who Fred Durst is kid?

>>127505462
I noticed that the worst ones are always Millenials whereas the boomers like Scott Adams are usually at least interesting or have some edge to them. The Millenial ones (Mssr. Poole is a good example) are boring as hell and their entire point of reference consists of vidya and capeshit movies.

>>127506424
Millennials can and should be blamed for many things but there is no reason to listen to any podcast on the planet anymore, and there hasn't been any reason for short of a decade at least.

>>127505462
why does that fucker wear a ski cap indoors?

>>127506250
No.

>>127504752
That's not the argument. Who are the male targeted demographic superstars for the 2020s?

>>127506424
>whereas the boomers like Scott Adams are
that guy is an admitted racist who said white people need to segregate themselves from blacks

>>127506594
all the hip hop shit that all the teenage and college kids think is manly

>>127508426
nobody thinks rap is manly since it was exposed as fruitier than Pride Week

>two thousand jars of Vaseline

>>127498078
I fall into this category sadly so you're onto something. Vidya depletes your dopamine serotonin and what not and then social media finish you up. Throw a little bit of porn and masturbation in to the mix and you don't need anything else.

>>127508468
that's a topic for /adv/ and /r9k/ not /mu/

>>127508459
tell that to all those teenagers and college kids, see how they respond

>>127508459
^This. After what happened with Diddygate nobody is ever taking rap seriously again.

>>127508459
It’s over, zoomer bros

>>127508459
>Ice Cube trying to cover up how he used to DJ in a gay club

>>127508426
rap has falling off, not many of those are in there 20s except for Carti, Yachty, and Yeat. Most of the popular successful hip/hop being made right now is being made by old rappers. There is no Gen Z male superstars that targets male audiences.

>>127496501 (OP)
Women don't like music, they just like a soundtrack to gossip.
Men are apparently more visually oriented than women, it's the opposite when it comes to music, for women it's all about how it looks.

>>127497549
Gen Z males also love hip-hop. I've seen so many annoying white kids listen to shit like Travis Scott.

Also other mediums just have more spaces to discuss for men and aren't filled with offputtingly mentally ill and toxic people like most music spaces are from my experience

>>127496501 (OP)
women have kinda taken over pop music, men used to run it up until about 2010 and it has shifted to females more and more since

>>127510136
>men used to run it up until about 2010 and
when was this exactly? men always preferred to do other stuff like rock, blues, jazz, country, and rap.

>>127510114
>I've seen so many annoying white kids listen to shit like Travis Scott
is this 2015? he's washed as fuck.

>>127510165
Then replace Travis Scott with Playboi Carti or whichever rapper is popular nowdays.

>>127510153
that was "popular" music, pop has become a formulaic genre in itself but even the biggest hits of the sonic sound of pop were by men into the early 2000s, especially in the 80s

>>127497513
woah dude...

Could zoomers possibly be more retarded or inexperienced in life?

>>127496501 (OP)
They're listening to underground synthwave about media psyops:

https://youtu.be/MkA_yEeZzQc

My mates and I are huge Bobcats and Scaruffiheads. That's what all the young guys are into today.

>>127508398
Im fine with that honestly

>>127505304
Don't some like The Smiths and Depeche Mode? That's gotta be something, right?

>>127503939
Theres one i know but i suspect hes bisexual or something

>>127508398
Blacks are prone to violence and stupidity and irrationally hate other races for their own genetic deficiencies.

Everyone should segregate from them.

They got electricity and antibiotics without going through the 60,000 years of evolution they'd need to go through to get that stuff on their own.

No one owes them anything at this point.

>>127498078
What about someone who does both and also reads books?

>>127497772
Hardcore punk in the 80s tried to decentralize that into regional scenes, which became indie rock later on

>>127505807
Grim. Im 43 and im just exhausted after trying so many years of trying to make shit work with about seven of them and I just lost my patience

>>127505273
The pendulum needs to swing back and swing back hard. I wonder if there's a parallel to this era like when grunge was about to displace pop, boy bands & glam balladeers.

>>127505807
Ok but how are things in non-pigfucker counties?

>>127513151
At least pig fucker countries have their women in line, just take a look at the state of women in liberal western countries and compare them to the women of third world nations, apples and oranges buddy.

>>127505752
>not being a parasocial retard obsessed with charts and numbers means you're a tourist
Are you proud of being an illiterate retard, or...?

>>127496501 (OP)
>I would argue young womens connection with their favorite pop stars is one of the few healthy things in our society right now. It feels honest to me.
What?