Thread 127511336

>I don't know anybody who's made a record that sounds decent in the past twenty years, really," the 65-year-old rocker said in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine.

>Dylan, who released eight studio albums in that time, returns with his first recording in five years, "Modern Times," next Tuesday.

>Noting the music industry's complaints that illegal downloading means people are getting their music for free, he said, "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway."

>"You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them," he added. "There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like ... static."

>>127511336 (OP)
Zimmerman's right about that one.

Dylan has always been a tastelet and he got worse with age.

>>127511336 (OP)
>in the past twenty years

When did he say that?

>>127511363
2006

This kike is always kvetching about something lmao

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>>127511336 (OP)
>There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like ... static
Weird that he was exclusively listening to Harsh Noise and thought it was the only music produced over the course of 20 years.

>believing anything zimmerman says
he was a big alicia keys fan

>>127511477
Who can blame him? She was hot as fuck in the early 00s

>>127511487
Still is.
Do all I get is kpop or /pol/tards? This board is such shit. lol

>>127511336 (OP)
>"Oy vey, nobody's music is good except mine. And if you disagree you're an antisemite! And music should be free... except mine, no way am I giving back the $500 million."

>>127512620
Bob Dylan is Christian

>>127511336 (OP)
I don't either, Bobby. I don't either.

>>127511336 (OP)
He was talking about overproduction and shitty modern mixing/mastering

The highest frequency of a gunshot reaches ~20 kHz, driven by sharp transients. Recorded music evolved from ~5 kHz max in the 1960s to ~18 kHz in the 2000s. That doesn't sound as "good" as you suppose.

>>127511336 (OP)
>they have sound all over them
What are records supposed to have?

>>127512913
Shitty caterwauling and goofy lyrics

Weird, I would have expected him to like something like ITAOTSA, that has that old-timey Americana sound.

I remember he said once "that kid had a heart" about Cobain, after hearing Polly (at a concert?). And at some point he appeared at a public event with that ridiculous alt-rock haircut, with bleached hair and a beanie.

Was the old kike trying to blend in with the 90s back then? Then later he reneged on that.

>>127512913
I think it was his ancient way of saying bands were using effects like flanger to make the song have a certain "sound".
He wasn't entirely wrong but that didn't start in 2006 or even 1986. It was already a thing in the early 80s. Hell, even Hendrix using a wahwah pedal was already relying on a "sound" to make the song work.

>>127511336 (OP)
Ummm OP not so fast, from a couple of years ago:
>Performers and songwriters recommend things to me. Others I just wake up and they’re there. Some I’ve seen live. The Oasis Brothers, I like them both, Julian Casablanca, the Klaxons, Grace Potter. I’ve seen Metallica twice. I’ve made special efforts to see Jack White and Alex Turner. Zac Deputy, I’ve discovered him lately. He’s a one man show like Ed Sheeran, but he sits down when he plays. I’m a fan of Royal Blood, Celeste, Rag and Bone Man, Wu-Tang, Eminem, Nick Cave, Leonard Cohen, anybody with a feeling for words and language, anybody whose vision parallels mine.

>>127513064
>flanger
No man, he is talking about mixing and mastering of modern music having less disrinct tracks for each instrument. Unc can’t help that 90% of his production was just an acoustic guitar and his vocals, sometimes with a unfiltered electric guitar and piano, and we experimenting now

>>127514169
This anon expressed it as obnoxiously as possible but he's onto something.

Bob's main concern is the song, and what you can do with it. He wants to capture it while it's fresh. He still cuts tracks 'live' like bands used to do in the '60s, after everyone else moved on to tracking instruments separately. He has expressed dissatisfaction with the way Oh Mercy and Time Out of Mind--his two most celebrated 'later' albums--turned out. It's no coincidence that they are also the most consciously 'produced' records of his career.

Is he stuck in the past? We definitely left the innocence of sheet music compatibility a long time ago, and have been in the trenches of increasingly elaborate production methods since at least the late '70s, and we keep piling on. This model, chasing the one definitive iteration of a piece of music and tailoring it precisely to your sonic dimensions, is antithetical to the model of the song, which is all about reinterpretation, versatility.

>>127515029
The idea of creating a sonic environment that could only exist in a studio setting began in the 50s in fact, it was made possible almost as soon as tape existed.

>>127514094
>wu tang
I hate old folk or classic artists praising random nog rap because they "TELL IT LIKE IT IS"

>>127515421
Keith Richards and pretty sure some others said rap isn't music though.

>>127511336 (OP)
For a guy who sings like shit and is best known for other people covering his songs, the arrogance is astounding.

>>127511336 (OP)
>>Noting the music industry's complaints that illegal downloading means people are getting their music for free, he said, "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway."
holy fucking based

>>127511336 (OP)
The mumbling K-word is right, Hi-Fi peaked in the '70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD8otYK-KJo