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Anonymous No.127533550 >>127533572 >>127533581 >>127533607 >>127535796
Grunge is garage metal
There, I said it
Anonymous No.127533564 >>127533572 >>127533598 >>127535796
Alice In Chains is the only band here that is even somewhat metal.
Anonymous No.127533572 >>127533598 >>127536201
>>127533550 (OP)
>>127533564
AiC and Soundgarden are the only two Metal bands there.
Anonymous No.127533581 >>127534174
>>127533550 (OP)
AIC > Nirvana > Pearl Jam (first 3 only) > Soundgarden
Anonymous No.127533588 >>127533613 >>127533628 >>127533675 >>127535145
was grunge more of a genre or a scene?
Anonymous No.127533598
>>127533564
>>127533572
Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana are the only four metal bands there.
Anonymous No.127533607
>>127533550 (OP)
Nirvana has nothing to do with metal except for a few songs where they tried to write melvins songs. They are Post-Hardcore. Screaming Trees again nothing to do with Metal. Neither have Mudhoney, Truly and L7.
Anonymous No.127533613
>>127533588
it was more of a (bowel) movement
Anonymous No.127533628 >>127533685
>>127533588
Scene
Anonymous No.127533675 >>127533695
>>127533588
The grunge "sound" is basically a blend of 70's metal and 80's hardcore punk with different bands placing more emphasis on one or the other.

As a scene it was pretty much astroturfed by Subpop and other labels. Watch Hype!.
Anonymous No.127533685 >>127533754 >>127535145
>>127533628
Not even a scene, these bands have nothing in common with each other. "Grunge" was wholly constructed by the media
Anonymous No.127533695
>>127533675
true for many bands but aic didn't take from hardcore and screaming trees not from metal.
Anonymous No.127533754 >>127533766
>>127533685
>these bands have nothing in common with each other.
They don't sound alike, but they did, like, hang out and interact with each other. For example, Kurt was a Soundgarden and Mudhoney fan. PJ and Soundgarden share the same drummer. The guy who formed Truly auditioned for Nirvana after they kicked Jason Everman out.
Anonymous No.127533766 >>127534130
>>127533754
Nirvana knew Mudhoney but were otherwise total outsiders from Olympia. The other bands were mostly friends with each others afaik.
Anonymous No.127534070 >>127535145
I went through all noteworthy Grunge discographies from 1985 onward and here is my opinion:
>Alice in Chains
Alternative Metal/Hard Rock, influenced by classic bands but added an alternative production style, they sound similar to some of the original grunge bands such as mother love bone and skin yard
>Soundgarden
similar to aic, but more garage rock influence and therefore more similar to screaming trees
>Screaming Trees
straight up psychedelic rock. their later stuff sounds more like britpop than other 'Grunge'.
>Mudhoney
lofi garage punk. more stooges influence than all the other bands. similar style to some screaming trees and nirvana songs
>Nirvana
bleach reminds me of black flag, mudhoney and some other grunge bands. nevermind is its own alternative/punk concept album and in utero is 100% unrelated to all of grunge and sounds like helmet and unwound.
>Tad
sound like a cross between nevermind era nirvana and soundgarden

grunge is ultimately just the alternative music scene of seattle, and not a distinct musical genre. one thing I noticed though is that all bands like the stooges and black sabbath. if any band outside seattle gets the grunge label it is because they aggressively copy one of the big grunge bands.
Anonymous No.127534130 >>127534235
>>127533766
Nirvana were complete outsiders in every sense. They were outsiders from some bumfuck village and they moved to Olympia, hoping they'd get accepted as a punk-influenced band.

But the Olympia scene was full of middle-class hipsters for whom punk was some art statement, a lifestyle to display. Those hipsters looked down on Cobain and his band because they thought they were hicks from Aberdeen. So Nirvanas had to work hard to ingratiate themselves with these Olympia hipsters. They first got that Love Buzz single to impress the scene. Then worked to make Bleach that was supposed to give them some more cred in that world.

Until Cobain grew frustrated and decided to ditch punk and just go for the much more ambitious goal of writing tuneful songs for a mainstream audience. Once he got enough of such songs to play live and impress some label scouts, he got a contract. The rest became history
Anonymous No.127534145
Grunge is a buzzword, the scene was Seattle.
Different bands had different styles, roots, came from different local scenes, some had members that moved to Seattle, weren't even locals.

Connections were sparse and on a personal level, here and there.
Anonymous No.127534174
>>127533581
Move Soundgarden to first and I agree
Anonymous No.127534235 >>127534467
>>127534130
but wasn't in utero an attempt to sympathize with olympia/kill rock star bands again? he really wanted to make a real post-hardcore record there
Anonymous No.127534467
>>127534235
Maybe, but I doubt Cobain cared that much about some small-fry people from Olympia anymore. Relations with the Calvin group got sour after he found fame.

In Utero was a mixed bag of a record, meant to destroy this perception that they became a mainstream band. But it's also a parting shot, a fuck-you record on which he put some half-assed songs that were literal improvisations in the studio. Alongside Nevermind-era classic compositions like Dumb or Pennyroyal Tea.
I don't think he cared that much what people thought about it, even less what some guys in Olympia did. He had a plan to stage his exit and the album had enough songs with some hit potential to secure his family some revenue for him to leave them something.
Anonymous No.127534568 >>127535145 >>127535828
Are they grunge?
Anonymous No.127535145 >>127535451
>>127533588
Both.
>>127533685
>these bands have nothing in common with each other
Wrong.
>>127534070
>grunge is ultimately just the alternative music scene of seattle, and not a distinct musical genre
Wrong.
>>127534568
Yes.
Anonymous No.127535451 >>127535749
>>127535145
>wrong
then at least one band out of nirvana, screaming trees and alice in chains isn't grunge.
Anonymous No.127535749
>>127535451
All are on different branches of grunge.

Screaming Trees are on the same branch as Love Battery, Truly and the psychedelic parts of Soundgarden.

Nirvana on the same branch as Mudhoney, Tad, and 7 year Bitch

Alice in Chains the same as Gruntruck, Skin Yard and My Sister's Machine.
Anonymous No.127535782
Anonymous No.127535796
>>127533550 (OP)
>>127533564
>Nirvana - Punk/Post-Hardcore
>Pearl Jam - Proto-Buttrock
>Alice in Chains/Soundgarden - Alternative Metal
Anonymous No.127535805 >>127535836
Just came here to say that Unwound is the closest thing we have to Nirvana
Anonymous No.127535828 >>127538347
>>127534568
They were the OG grunge bandwaggon jumpers
Listen to what they were doing before 1991 when grunge blew up.

How do you go from this (1990)

https://youtu.be/GQQ_KDplLDA?list=PLFMe-07wPIxCJc1ryp42dwmk098oDFe62

to this (1992)

https://youtu.be/xAzNXwW9tgc?list=PLj2b3d9cCOahJ4YH23KKBQkcmRFQeRDL4
Anonymous No.127535836 >>127535889 >>127535921
>>127535805
Unwound mogs all Seattle scene 90s bands.
Anonymous No.127535889 >>127535976
>>127535836
name 3 songs
Anonymous No.127535921
>>127535836
Nirvana sparked the fire in them. Both are good
Anonymous No.127535967 >>127535986 >>127535987 >>127537280
Redpill me on Mother Love Bone. I always see them cited as grunge godfathers and all that shit but they don't really sound much different than those late '80s hair metal Zeppelin ripoffs like Kingdom Come and Great White.
Anonymous No.127535976 >>127535988
>>127535889
this but unironically
share something with the class anon
Anonymous No.127535986 >>127537280
>>127535967
I always thought they sounded like a Guns n Roses copy
Anonymous No.127535987
>>127535967
Are you looking for the bands that gave birth to Nirvanaโ€™s sound? Those are not related
Anonymous No.127535988
>>127535976
i was being "unironic"...
Anonymous No.127536201 >>127538242
>>127533572
Soundgarden only if you count bands like Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple as metal.
Anonymous No.127537280
>>127535967
>I always see them cited as grunge godfathers
Where the fuck do you see that? If there are "godfathers of grunge" it's Green River.
>but they don't really sound much different than those late '80s hair metal Zeppelin ripoffs like Kingdom Come and Great White.
Literal retard.
>>127535986
Literal retard #2
Anonymous No.127538242
>>127536201
Soundgarden are significantly heavier than Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple. Listen to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLZBhlTXHuo
Anonymous No.127538347
>>127535828
lol the RHCP parody song fucking sucks