>>127658003
>but your timeline is wrong
lolno, the things that happened, happened. and they happened between 1975 and 1980 at the latest.
>Minutemen, Black Flag, Husker Du, Misfits, Dead Kennedys, Fugazi
mostly good stuff here, but as I said if it didn't happen from 1975-1980, it just isn't punk. It can't be.
It can sound like the punks bands of 1975-1980, but if you understand what punk was, sound is just one element -- and without the rest, the social shit, the political and class problems of that time in those specific countries, it isn't punk.
It can be the greatest shit ever, it just needs a label that isn't "punk", that's all.
I think all the bands you listed are American, too, and really punk was more a UK/Australia/ Canada thing which was partly related to Brit/Commonwealth attitudes, history, etc. American punk was a thing but it was different and more on the periphery because it didn't share those common root causes with UK/Oz/Canada.
The US was so populous and was home to the important record labels, marketing companies, music publications, CBGB's and other clubs, ad obviously big media, so it was impossible to ignore American punk bands but they there was that difference. Just pointing it out more for historical interest than anything else.
Kind of interesting to have a discussion like this about something that, at the time, seemed like a constant chaotic argument with society and government. And no one involved would EVER have thought they would have been discussed "in the future". In many ways there was no future in our eyes. Basically, if anyone started thinking about their future standing and posterity, etc they would have caught a beer bottle with their heads. lol
But it did become part of the historical record.
History isn't just world leaders in expensive suits.
Thanks, if anyone read all that drivel.
I'll just stfu now.
