Thread 127652467

Why does current music about current times disturb us so much? Are we just tired of reminders of the world?

>>127652694
Unironically yeah. Pop culture/culture in general in the 2020s is so gay it's unreal. Name something cool that's happened in the past 5 years

>>127652723
A global scale pandemic and lockdown? I don’t know if it’s “cool” but it’s definitely the most unique thing to happen to society in a long time

>>127652723
Anon, I...
Holy shit I really can't.

>>127652869
>A global scale pandemic and lockdown? I don’t know if it’s “cool”
It was probably the lamest thing that's ever happened in the 21st century. Half the population didn't even get vaxxed and now everything is back to normal. Almost like the whole thing was one big false flag.

>>127652467 (OP)
i agree EXCEPT for Blue & Grey, and Life Goes On.
they were written and released together at the height of the Covid shit, and really reflect that feeling imo.
which is why I can't listen to the anymore. both by bts, btw

>>127652723
I think shit like Starship is pretty cool and I'm glad SpaceX got it off the ground without it exploding with the most recent test

>>127652723
Did anything cool/interesting happen between 1995 and 2000?

>>127653478
It was pretty gay but Columbine happened.

>>127653478
>Did anything cool/interesting happen between 1995 and 2000?
guessing you're American, educated in America?
anyway yes, time didn't stop, and things happened

- acceptance and rise of the internet
- Google debuts
- first meme (1995)
- first demotivational meme (1998)
- some of the most important work on the Human Genome Project
- Euro was minted
- Bosnian War ended
- Kosovo war began and ended
- Eritrean–Ethiopian war began
- Kargill war, the first conflict between two nuclear powers
- 1st and 2nd Chechen wars
- 1st and 2nd Congo wars
- Good Friday Agreement
- Mandela became President
- 3 Gorges Dam began
- Oklahoma City bombing
- proof for Fermat's Last Theorem
- Deep Blue beats Kasparov
- Princess Diana killed

>>127652723
capitol raid was pretty cool

>>127652996
It would’ve been over in a month if everyone just shut the fuck up and locked down. But karens complained about needing haircuts so it took years for society to move forward

>>127653709
>- first meme (1995)
No, not even close, memes are literally ancient. And that's not even something you should consider remarkable/significant anyways

>>127653732
Here's the reality. Covid is actually not a big deal for individuals. Many people were capable of fighting it on their own and even still for many people the symptoms were minor. Covid however WAS a huge deal for medical and healthcare infrastructure, because doctors needed to now deal with an influx of people with potentially more serious symptoms and compromised immune systems ON TOP OF existing patients that also needed to be seen. This was poorly communicated to the average person, to the average person it just looked like the government put them out of work and is forcing them to get a shot for seemingly no reason. If the entire point of the quarantines and broad vaccination campaign was properly communicated to the average person, which was to help relieve public healthcare and medical infrastructure and prevent potential collapse of it, then maybe the lockdowns and vaccines would've gone better, but instead to the average person it all looked like it was done out of malice, and it opened the floodgates for conspiracy retards and grifters selling people horse semen. As easy as it would be to turn people who are on the opposite end of the political spectrum to you into scapegoats, the fact of the matter was that the government did handle it poorly, even if they did have good intentions. You can't blame the average person for this when they were also victims
/poltard rant

>>127653735
"first widespread public internet meme"
does that suit you better?
of course memes have been around forever, i listed them under the rise of the internet assuming people would understand

>>127652467 (OP)
>Song could never be released today because the entire point would be missed because of a few edgy or naughty words

https://youtu.be/0tTmpzfyChw?si=tzUdfwWDKYcpGs-3

>>127653828
the fact that the incredibly rich, as a class, increased their wealth by ~ 25% made it all even worse, as did politicians being caught partying, or going on vacation, when everyone one else had to stay in their homes alone.

and then there was Home Depot being able to stay open, but mom and pop hardware stores were forced to close, etc etc

the whole covid era/woke era mismanagement resulted in a massive rise of mistrust in government and corporations, as well as pushing people toward conspiracy theories and greatly increasing racism (and a divided community is easier to govern, so ...time for more conspiracy theories)

>>127653852
just checked my very mainstream music service and that song is not censored at all and displays all they words, too.
fwiw, I'm not American. maybe it's censored only in the USA?

>>127653878
It was censored for the radio edit in the USA and Canada but IIRC you could still get the original

>>127653828
I had Covid and almost died and I know a few people that did die but ok

>>127653897
I got it and I literally had it for a single day, and the next day I was fine.
But regardless, you're missing the point. The point was that the broad vaccination and quarantine campaign was poorly handled, since the point of it was to prevent overloading the public healthcare system through preventative measures, which most people didn't feel like they needed. I'm not saying that some people didn't need preventative measures, but that's an individual thing.

>>127652694
Because you know they're not allowed to say anything true or relatable. Its all propaganda now.

>>127652694
>>127653926
Naw, my personal gripe with modern musical commentary is how the singer/lyricist handles modern issues
In the 20th century (60s-90s), things like the state of the world were more treated as adversarial, and with more rage and angst against the machine, or sometimes you had folk musicians that acted as narrators of the worlds ills instead
Today, it's just sad Zoomers with an unhealthy dose of social media addiction and doomscrolling that treat the world as if they're hopeless victims and I'll be honest it's kind of fucking annoying.
that being said, I like the way musicians like Jesse Welles handles it.

This maybe the only good COVID album and it's 30+ minutes of horrible noise with wordless grunting and gurgling

>>127653939
Because they're not allowed to say anything in my opinion. Zoomer culture is basically not represented in american cinema or TV for example. They'd rather make movies set in the fucking 80s forever with all the politically incorrect culture cut out.

>>127653960
>Zoomer culture is basically not represented in american cinema or TV for example. They'd rather make movies set in the fucking 80s forever with all the politically incorrect culture cut out.
I think the real reason for this isn't actually what you think.
The real reason you don't see much zoomer representation in media is because zoomers are too terminally online and 90% of zoomer culture is just references to some short form video-of-the-week or random memes. And this kind of shit is really fucking hard for a Hollywood writer in his 40s to make convincing dialogue with. Hollywoods attempts at referencing youth culture have almost always been bad, but at least in the past you could write convincing dialogue with younger characters by actually focusing on their personality or personal lives, or other timeless aspects of their character, and to be fair, that's still how Hollywood tends to write younger characters, it's just that youth culture is becoming more and more of their personalities.

>>127653988
We talk about Trump and were not always bashing him. We complain about the jeet invasion. We hate zionism.
Why don't they ever show that?
Because its propaganda.

>>127654020
>We talk about Trump and were not always bashing him. We complain about the jeet invasion. We hate zionism.
No my schizophrenic friend, I'm pretty sure most zoomers talk about more things than that.

>>127654026
You're missing the point

>>127654020
>We talk about Trump and were not always bashing him. We complain about the jeet invasion. We hate zionism.
Zoomers are so fucking cringe dude
Imagine writing millennial characters in the 90s but all their dialogue is just talking about Bill Clinton and Saddam Hussein

>>127654040
Its a different time

>>127654049
Yeah, it's a fucking cringe time. Touch grass dude.

>>127654055
Missing the point again because all you old bags can do is ignore us

>>127654064
We're not ignoring shit. Nobody wants to watch a character wax poetic about politics from opinions he took secondhand from online grifters. Go watch Mr. Birchum if you don't believe me. It's cringe. You made being cringe your entire personality.

>>127654079
That's not what I'm talking about. You are ignoring me.

>>127654096
>>We talk about Trump and were not always bashing him. We complain about the jeet invasion. We hate zionism.
Alright Mr. Zoomer, please tell me what I'm supposed to get from this other than the fact you think it's possible to integrate this into organic spoken dialogue without it coming across as contrived and preachy. Shit like randomly interjecting the N word I can see sounding organic. But people in the real world aren't just randomly interjecting Trump references unless they're making fun of the way he talks or when he says something retarded, which I have actually seen writers put into shows but it's also cringe.

>>127654123
>unless they're making fun of the way he talks or when he says something retarded
See? Boomers only see things one way and don't care to reflect what we think.
You can only put in this type of reference and that's final.

>>127654140
>You can only put in this type of reference and that's final.
Yes retard, because glazing politicians has always been cringe onscreen. It has nothing to do with some conspiracy against your Orange cult leader.

>>127654154
So were not allowed to praise a politician because that's cringe but we can make fun of trump which is cringe anyway. That makes sense.

>>127654171
Making fun of a politician sounds more organic than glazing them
But sure retard, networks like the Daily Wire have plenty of content centered around sucking the great Orange cock, and guess what? It all sounds contrived and cringe, because it is.

>>127654171
Trump is very easy to make fun of to be fair, he has a very distinct way of speaking and says a lot of retarded things

OP reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8CDakUwv4I

>>127653709
Only 90s kids remember

>>127652694
I think the issue is honestly social media. If you wanted to see absolutely braindead takes about the "current thing", you could open up Twitter and just start scrolling and you'll find the stupidest and most shallow of takes instantly.
I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that people listen to music for enjoyment, so when you have the exact same type of messaging in music, it's just overloading it
Also who wants to listen to musicians talk politics? A lot of musicians are just doing it to either get famous, get laid, get drunk, get wasted, or some combination of those. You wouldn't be interested in their opinions if they weren't a musician and were just some random person you met up with
On top of that, you don't even know if it's their real opinions since they incentivised by their label/their music scene/their peers to push the same message as each other. Look at all of the UK/Irish bands now jumping on the Palestine wagon

Things aren’t “back to normal”, most of the population was brainraped into believing the seasonal flu was a “pandemic”, you can see it even in this thread

>>127652467 (OP)
Does the cringe button make the person pushing the button cringe, or does it announce “cringe” when the button is pushed?

>>127652467 (OP)
They say these bars are like COVID
You get ’em right off the bat

>>127653897
If you almost died you’re a pussy or a genetic misfit and the world would be much better today if we just let people like you die instead of the global damage we did to keep some boomers alive

>>127653732
People who legitimately believe this deserve to be dragged into the public square and lynched

>>127653896
Yeah, only for radio and he does censor it live now too, but the original is still on the album.

>>127655700
It dragged on forever because of snowflake fags like you crying constantly

>>127655801
NTA but it's always funny to me that literally nobody actually knows what the word snowflake means anymore. It doesn't mean whatever you think it means
>It dragged on forever
I'm not a Yank but the only reason it was ever an "issue" was that our medical services are being ran like utter shit. Had they been able to actually withstand a normal level of activity, let alone an increase caused by Covid, there would never have been any need to lockdown as the only reason they were pushed was to "flatten the curve" initially. You have no idea what you're talking about

>>127655819
> You have no idea what you're talking about
You’ve said this so many times in this thread. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about

>>127655836
This is my second post there and it's the first in response to someone. It might be best to tilt at windmills elsewhere? Or at least say something of actual worth that doesn't make you look retarded

>>127653732
You're a fucking joke.

Two more weeks

>>127654026
shizophobic bigot the fuck did schizophrenic people ever do to you? using a medical condition as an insult is fucking gross you should be ashamed of yourself

>>127654154
fuck off chud throwing around the r slur go back to fucking pol

>>127655801
It dragged on forever because scum (like you) weren't dragged to the public square and lynched

He's saying that there used to be songs like "Eve of Destruction" or "Walk a Mile In My Shoes" that were more just "we live in a society" writing and didn't really take sides, it was more the singer talking about the world as he saw it.

>>127653939
>>127653960
>>127656356
nah that was because Obama repealed the Smith-Mundt Act which literally legalized propaganda

>>127656311
Keep begging for lynching you chud bitch lmao
What a dumb piece of shit

>>127654171
but most of that isn't tongue in cheek or satirizing Trump it's just mindless extreme humorless butthurt at the guy

>>127656430
you're seething because you bought the scamdemic hook line and sinker lmao. scared little goyim like you are the reason everything had to shut down. the rest of us were just trying to live our lives. if all of you had shut the fuck up and stopped crying everything could have gone on as normal.

>>127656477
>racist seething
you are still seething 5 years later like a bitch
Lmao

>>127656487
i'd ask you how it feels to be a gullible braindead NPC but you most likely don't have an inner monologue and are incapable of self-reflection. covid is still around, i hope you're wearing your face diaper and getting those boosters!

i'm not saying culture wars stuff is new, i mean the Carpenters got a lot of people butthurt because they performed at the Nixon White House

>>127656531
> gullible braindead NPC
> projection

>>127656560
mask up chud, you only have a 99.99% chance of surviving covid

>>127653828
We're you asleep during the pandemic? They constantly had stories about doctors and nurses saying how hard it was and begging people to stay at home. Meanwhile /pol/tards were saying that was all fake news.

>>127656445
I mean, it's kind of understandable why they'd be butthurt. There was a vast parasitic class created during the Obama years of people who do nothing but collect government checks to rant on SM about toxic masculinity and they're not happy about having their gibes taken away.

>>127656682

Yeah begging them to stay home so nobody could see the hospital wasn’t actually “overflowing” and that people were only dying from iatrogenic causes

You’re right about the “stories” part

>t. Spouse of major city nurse whose father was murdered by malpractice during this time

>>127656430
>>127656487
HOLY BASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfPfBOHQn4M
this was the best song and video about covid
greetings from kpg

Post 2010 Pop Music is just Super-liminal propaganda. They don't even try to be clever anymore and all of the Artists are centrally controlled

https://youtu.be/S-Kub89XxlM

>>127657019
Kill leftshits, if I'm being entirely honest with you

>>127657019
>Post 2010 Pop Music is just Super-liminal propaganda. They don't even try to be clever anymore and all of the Artists are centrally controlled
i think you're giving these guys too much credit. they're not that clever.

>>127657019
>he's going to tell me that bullshit like Unleashed wasn't paid for RNC War on Terror agitprop

>>127656732
If you go back, first Democrats tried with the Great Society to create a permanent underclass who was paid to vote for them, but that strategy didn't really work because it was mostly blacks and poor people who are very low IQ and useless as a political weapon unless you need to start a race riot somewhere. In the 90s the Gingrich Congress got rid of nationalized gibesmedat with little difficulty because JaShaun cannot read or write or bribe Congress into keeping his welfare checks coming.

So that was why under Obama they instead gave handouts to upper middle class white people, this would not only create a new class of welfare recipients to vote Democrat but these were actually literate people who graduated high school and could become butthurt when someone like Trump proposed ending the grift.

>>127651399
Phoebe was exactly the kind of parasitic middle class white girl who collected a shitton of Democrat handouts.

>>127656682
Not the anon you were arguing with, but at least over here (not in the US), that's because our hospitals were almost on the brink even before the pandemic. The hospital systems were already being run and managed absolutely terribly and they still are, even years after the pandemic should have taught them that they cannot predict what's going to happen even a few months away
Meanwhile the lockdowns were the biggest wealth transfer from poor to rich in history and it completely wrecked the lives of young people who were either in college or who had just graduated and trying to get a job. I still notice now going out for drinks that younger people are a lot more standoff-ish than they were prior to the lockdowns

>>127652467 (OP)
>band jumps out of the woodwork after being defunkt for years or decades
>album released 2015-2025
>one of the tracks is called 'divisive' or is clearly about american politics
>ship of thesus member lineup
this was probably done atleast 100 fucking times and is the gayest fad ever.

>remix
>sounds like a ytp with some shitty edm added in

>>127657090
They have the pass now. Time to start a rap band.

>>127652694
too meta and it makes it annoying

>>127652694
Its all retarded and low iq and sounds like a 13 year old wrote it..no one can do intelligent commentary anymore

>>127652467 (OP)
>song relies on referencing something cool, instead of just being cool and writing a cool song.

>>127658824
>the lockdowns were the biggest wealth transfer from poor to rich in history
It's so obvious that the "pandemic" was a scam so that the rich could do this but you still have retards itt that think it was about a virus.

>>127653478
Internet caffes and chatting with random people was fun back then, you took your disquette with you and saved files.

A lot of good music was still being made in the late 90s. Brit pop and trip hop take off. Mad Season put out Above. Last AiC album with Staley. Beggining of EDM boom (Aphex, Autechre, Chemical Bros).

>>127657019
Nothing is organic anymore. Its all controlled bullshit thats part of the problem

>>127652723
Trump getting elected

Blur’s Dave Rowntree: ‘People think music was better in the old days, to which I say: bollocks!’

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/sep/07/blur-drummer-dave-rowntree-interview-britpop-music-not-better-old-days

Why do people think this? Its so disingenuous

>>127662002
>People are always surprised when I tell them the best music that’s ever been made is being made right now. People always think music was better in the old days, to which I say: “Bollocks!” That’s simply part of the ageing process. I was lucky enough to host a radio show a few years ago for XFM and I was blown away by the music people are making now.

Dumb whores whispering in the mic with echo is mind-blowing lol

>>127653712
That was an insurrection by fascists and is not cool

>>127653852
BEFORE the PINKO thought STASI killed mah free thinking rebel music

>>127653861
>racism (and a divided community is easier to govern
Good boomer troof goy! Keep thinking outside the box and remember to watch some Carlin to free your mind

>>127656386
>propaganda was invented in the 2010s
incels actually believe this lmao

>>127662118
Laws have effects mr cynical genius
Legalize propaganda, get more propaganda

>>127662088
>no argument

>>127662118
He thinks everything government or journalists tell you is true lol

>>127662130
lmao go look up the fairness doctrine, something i know you don't know about. it was repealed by republicans long before you were born. that, more than any other government action, is the cause behind us being in the politics-obsessed world we're in right now. it directly spawned shit like fox news, cnn, msnbc, rush limbaugh, etc

>>127662054
it was an disorganized clusterfuck done by crayon-munching magaworld boomers. there was absolutely no possible outcome in which they succeeded, and everyone knew that. the spectacle of it all is what made it a cool historical event to witness.

>>127662208
Those were fascists and crypto-fascists and actual frickin nazis
They were a matter of hours away from literally seizing control of the country

>>127653478
A lot of mu posters were born. Pretty damn important I say.

>>127661964
meds

>>127652467 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBPrRW1iVE

>>127662177
>it was repealed by republicans long before you were born
That was repealed in 1987 by a Democrat Congress.

>>127662545
>On August 4, 1987, ... the FCC abolished the doctrine by a 4–0 vote
>Sitting commissioners at the time of the vote were:
> Dennis R. Patrick, chairman, Republican (Named an FCC commissioner by Ronald Reagan in 1983)
> Mimi Weyforth Dawson, Republican (Named an FCC commissioner by Ronald Reagan in 1986)
> Patricia Diaz Dennis, Democrat (Named an FCC commissioner by Ronald Reagan in 1986)
> James Henry Quello, Democrat (Named an FCC commissioner by Richard M. Nixon in 1974)
> The FCC vote was opposed by members of Congress
> In June 1987, Congress attempted to preempt the FCC decision and codify the fairness doctrine
> but the legislation was vetoed by President Ronald Reagan.
> In 1991, another attempt to revive the doctrine was stopped when President George H. W. Bush threatened another veto.
Democrats, people.

>>127662603
Who cares. Republicans are literal nazis now so you can stop trying to blame the controlled opposition for what the fascists are doing

>>127662545
>>127662603
>republican president in power that could have vetoed it being repealed
>"hurrr durrr it's da demonrat's fault!"
rightoids are fucking hilarious lmao. then again this is the side that instantly stopped caring about the epstein files once the white house told them to stop caring about it despite spending the previous 10 months chomping at the bit for it.

>>127652869
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>>127653828
>broo the medical infrastructure was COLLAPSED BROOO
bro nooo what are we gonna doo

>>127663313
>let me post this silly meme image as a response to your actual argument
>libtard status: owned!
lol

>>127653828
>it all looked like it was done out of malice
I was about to type a well thought out reply to you, but you don't deserve it, the political and financial elites straight up DABBED on our asses and we'll suffer for generations because of it, it absolutely was out of malice.

>>127663210
>>127662697
>>127662603
>>127662545
Why are you having a samefag argument with yourself?

>>127653897
Not even baby boomers were dying to COVID. You're such a a pussy.

The cringiest part is that the total boomer death that was dangled in front of us was a big fat lie

>>127663372
You would think that faggot nurses wouldn't have time to spend half of their shifts filming themselves dancing if the medical infrastructure was in absolute shambles

DEATH TO BOOMERS!!! GEN X WILL JOIN US THE MASTER ZOOMER RACE! DEATH GRIPS FOR LIFE!!!!

>>127663669
>doubling down on shitting her pants over the meme image
rightoids are so fucking embarrassing lmao

>>127656356
i think he's saying that back then they used to protest about at least notionally real world problems like poor people in the ghetto or something instead of getting butthurt at whatever they saw on Twitter

>>127663973
>being so mentally stunted that everything is a left/right divide to you

>Covid was some fake libtard conspiracy to lock people up and give them fake vaccines that cause autism!
>No guys you're wrong covid was some right-wing bourgeois conspiracy and power grab!
>People don't suck Orange Mans dick enough!
>Orange Man bad!

Social Media has done permanent damage to societal discourse. Everything is now being framed by party politics and coopted by ideologues here to sell you their own respective flavor of snake oil. Nobody is capable of acting like a concise narrator of their own personal experiences anymore and must assert their righteousness atop their own respective soap boxes without regard for open dialogue. At least boomer musicians in the 60s knew their fucking place and were capable of admitting when they just didn't fucking know something instead of regurgitating misinformation and Mean World propaganda from Social Media grifters and dishonest journalists.

>so libtroons want you jobless and incarcerated? Why dont we reach a healthy middle position? Maybe get night time reclusion and half the work pay, how about that?
Centrists get the rope before anyone else

>>127665366
You don't know what centrism actually is

>>127662530
Which ones

>>127665085
meds

>>127664274
>still no argument
>still seething

>>127664274
The Aztecs who were famously hated even by other tribes in the area for their practices?
All you're really doing here is proving you don't know anything about history beyond what you learned in primary school