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Anonymous No.127679999 >>127680581 >>127682668 >>127689391 >>127699062 >>127717846 >>127727891 >>127734831
/prod/ - Music Production
>Production Resources:
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).

Sister thread: >>>/g/dmp

Previous: >>127626535
Anonymous No.127680463 >>127680786 >>127681432
I want to play a game. Before you are the infamous quartet: a, b, c, and d Soundgoodizer presets.
Only one may survive.
Anonymous No.127680581
>>127679999 (OP)
You know things are bad when you're called stinky by a jeet.
Anonymous No.127680786
>>127680463
B all day boi
Anonymous No.127681082
https://vocaroo.com/17xoG5V6Ycar
Anonymous No.127681432
>>127680463
d, 50% mix
Anonymous No.127682668 >>127682748 >>127683190
>>127679999 (OP)
Seriously question: why would I need a compressor if I could just turn the volume down?
Anonymous No.127682679 >>127682852 >>127683301 >>127685461 >>127719573 >>127728565
Fucking KEK look at this shit
https://youtu.be/Fb2Qx78gLXY
https://youtu.be/Az97k9o6j0o
https://youtu.be/-qCpxdLW-dk
https://youtu.be/LJPp7PGIRDY
facebook/daniela.priore.2024
It's a completely AI-generated person (her face looks like a FaceApp gender-swap of a 57 year old obese man named Pasquale), putting out the sloppest AI-generated music, with people in the comments (the few actual humans) commenting on how beautiful (???) and talented she is.
No doubt almost everyone older than 50 I know wouldn't be able to tell (outside of maybe the non-musical text-to-speech).

Obviously this is terrible in every way, but assuming the technology will get good enough (IMO it will), and successful human Internet-only acts become more and more commonplace, I'm sure we'll eventually see famous artists with a curated image/aesthetic/output/etc that are entirely AI-generated, and most people won't care because they like the music and whatnot (sort of a Hatsune Miku situation, but actually pretending to be real).
Labels have all the incentives to try this, and they already did (FN Meka and Timbaland's thing, on top of all the automated mass-generating bots we already have), to no success, but it's only a matter of time before one of them puts out something good, perhaps with heavy human input, and it starts building a decent niche audience. After that it's all downhill for them.

Is there anything that human musicians can do to prepare for the coming flood of AI-generated (and increasingly appealing) competition?
Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?
Anonymous No.127682748
>>127682668
to subtly even out a subpar performance when tracking.
Anonymous No.127682852 >>127682895
>>127682679
>Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?
if you start out at "begrudging acceptance" you're contributing to the problem with lack of resistance.

the actual un-fun un-musical answer is to get involved with groups advocating for legislation to protect us from AI.
every chump that's chuckling to themselves and rubbing their hands together with little dollar signs in their eyes is not asking themselves "who am i competing with and for whose attention?"
(they're going to be playing the house)
Anonymous No.127682895 >>127682939
>>127682852
>legislation
American detected.
Anonymous No.127682939 >>127683167
>>127682895
i'm sorry for forgetting that we're the only country with law and order mb.
clearly we are a shining example of that
Anonymous No.127683167 >>127683338
>>127682939
I'm talking about your solution to a worldwide problem being rallying for your government to do something.
Only Americans think like this, which is how I was able to guess.

Even assuming you get the US and every western country to give you everything you ask for, every other place (including China and Russia) being just as invested in it to the point where it's basically an arms race, means that you're just moving the problem elsewhere (which means that all the downsides are still there, either from nationals of those countries, or from Americans/Europeans moving their operations there) except now you can't even take advantage of the pros.
For this very obvious reason, no government would take itself out of the competition with legislation like that, just to protect its artists.

Whether we like it or not, it's here to stay, and we can either try to adapt, or be outcompeted by those who didn't have self-imposed hurdles to keep them back.
Anonymous No.127683190
>>127682668
If you use compression just to turn things down, then you're using compression for all the wrong reasons.

In a nutshell a compressor makes the loud parts quieter in comparison to the quiet parts of any given sound source, making it sound more "even", hence the name, compression. It's usefull if you're dealing with a sound that has alot of dynamic range or you need to control some transients in a sound that stick out too much.

An more aesthetic choice is trying to make something that sounds a bit lifeless, sound more lively by using a compressor. For example, a drumloop that just doesnt have the right amount of punch can get by using a compressor.

If the only result of slapping a compressor on a sound is that it gets quieter because the threshold is way down, then you probably dont need a compressor on it in the first place and you should probably revaluate the source from which you learnt that you need a compressor on everything or whatever your reasoning for doing so is.
Anonymous No.127683301 >>127684614
>>127682679
AI, like anything in the last 50 years, will reach a limit where the novelty suddenly turns into saturation. There's a certain "flatness" to AI music, cant quite put my finger on it but I have never heard a piece of AI music that blew me away in any capacity. It all sounded "good" for AI or it sounded completely mediocre. I mean, AI in essence is the sum of mediocrity.

Then theres the lack of the human aspect. Yes, terminally online autists will gobble this shit up because the human connection aspect is one they do not care about.

tl:dr, people will get bored with AI.
Anonymous No.127683338 >>127684614
>>127683167
you are assuming an awful lot of reasoning on my part.
> just to protect its artists
*their* (and companies) motivation will always be money.
the "solution" isn't to just throw your arms up and not even try, it's creating a situation in which *it's more profitable* to not use AI- fines, sanctions, public shaming to the point that it results in boycotting. whatever the fuck.

this exact same conversation could be about denuclearization and there's always going to be some fuckass in the corner chiming in "hey we can't do anything about it now! let's ALL get nukes!" as if this is some force of nature that can't be combated, or like we don't record *right now* that action can be taken to make things better.
Anonymous No.127683651
https://vocaroo.com/16BeRV3bJHHU
Anonymous No.127684224
R8 my chord progression
Cmi7 Fmi7 F#ΓΈ Bsus4 B Bmi/D E9sus4 E9 A6 Ab7 C# C#+ C#6 C#7
Anonymous No.127684614 >>127684779
>>127683301
It's true that AI sucks, but keep in mind that we're still in the early days and AI-generated slop is already making hundreds of thousands of streams per song. My normie friend sent me a playlist of it, saying that he likes it and can't tell if it's AI or not (I posted about it on /dmp/ a few months ago).
There's no way it's just going to stop improving now, and even if it never becomes as good as the human greats, it will certainly become good enough to affect the industry.

>>127683338
>creating a situation in which *it's more profitable* to not use AI- fines, sanctions, public shaming to the point that it results in boycotting. whatever the fuck
And I'm saying that none of this will ever happen because the incentive for the government to keep it going is way higher than any incentive to block it.
My entire point is that nothing of substance will (or could) be done on the legislation front to stop it.
If the US blocks it, everyone will just use products from China, who's certainly not going to have any consideration for artists or IP lol.

>denuclearization
Precisely what I alluded to when I called it "basically an arms race".
I don't know what world you live in, but in mine, countries still have nukes despite everything that's been done to get rid of them (which is certainly more than will ever be done against AI art).
They shouldn't exist in an ideal world, but if your enemy has it, you can't be the one without it.

Now add the fact that most people love AI, and it's mostly just a portion of artists that complain about it, I think it's clear which "side" our governments will favor.

Your fighting spirit is noble, but also pointless and counterproductive.

Anyway, I have to go now. Will reply tomorrow.
Anonymous No.127684779 >>127686921 >>127690140 >>127690140
>>127684614
> none of this will ever happen
not an argument.
>countries still have nukes despite everything that's been done to get rid of them
does *every* country? do we have about a hundred examples of countries *not* having nukes because of intervention?
would MORE countries have nukes if we just did nothing? yes. obviously. see below.
>Will reply tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/yts2F44RqFw?si=s7Xbxcq3MxxkNOya&t=230

i've recently become privy to this line of thinking and know not to reply.
your line of reasoning is fundamentally against any sort of "damage control" or "improving" anything or doing anything good ever.
Anonymous No.127685058
Does any of this have potential?

>cyberpunk city nightwalk music
https://vocaroo.com/1oCTiO6wzEJL

>ear rape music
https://vocaroo.com/1fd3yy8toUGZ

>ambient dungeon synth shit
https://vocaroo.com/1kCZ6twA8zcM
Anonymous No.127685461
>>127682679
I pray every day that YouTube will give us the ability to blacklist channels that use AI.
Anonymous No.127685823 >>127686909
I'm gonna start an alt-rock/shoegaze project after retiring my metal project and will look for a singer somewhere, how's this idea? https://vocaroo.com/1kBIqCfnsZoi
Anonymous No.127685865 >>127686909
break quickie BRB

https://vocaroo.com/1g1b4ul14htJ
Anonymous No.127686798 >>127686909
okay i'm back, and i have covid (this gave me energy, apparently)

https://vocaroo.com/1dWaSdzxuCCd
Anonymous No.127686909
>>127685865
>>127686798
8) Very nice.
>>127685823
Sounds good. Neat little modulation around 0:14. Singer could make or break it. Guud Luck in your search.
Anonymous No.127686921 >>127686997 >>127687714
>>127684779
not the anon but he's right. you're naive. the fact that djibouti doesn't have nukes isn't really relevant.

What are you gonna do? Protest? Vote? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig

the only thing that matters in this country is money. there's literally no consequence for legislators to ignore your concerns, because they don't rely on you for their donations. or anyone like you.

If you told me you were gonna become a ruthless capitalist, sell your soul for millions of dollars, and mount a massive lobbying campaign against AI art, then sure that could work. But

> creating a situation

is not something you have the power to do
Anonymous No.127686997 >>127687145
>>127686921
>Vote
it’s like we didn’t literally just witness the repercussions in Iran.
kicking over the chess board and screaming β€œnaive” doesn’t make you right you’re just fucking stupid and ruining everything
Anonymous No.127687145 >>127687217
>>127686997
I'm not kicking over the chessboard, I'm saying you're not even at the table.

Answer the question: what are you going to do? What *can* you do? What can you or anyone you care about do?
Anonymous No.127687217 >>127687367
>>127687145
not an argument and not an argument
Anonymous No.127687226 >>127687398
Anonymous No.127687367 >>127687407 >>127690140
>>127687217
ahhh ur probably like what 18? 19?

I wanna call you a retard but I realize it's because you remind me of myself.

the future isn't hopeless but you have to be real about it. that's something you'll have to learn for yourself i guess

good luck anon may that fire in your soul burn forever
Anonymous No.127687398
>>127687226
My mother sits like a music producer.
Anonymous No.127687407 >>127687714
>>127687367
that "what do we do" was in bad faith, don't bullshit.
"you're just young" is just old people for "sit down, shutup, and stop rocking the boat. i don't want to deal with the challenge."
Anonymous No.127687714 >>127687837
>>127687407
>bad faith
not really? Trying to get you to see for yourself that the answer is "nothing"

it's not that you're young, it's that you still haven't been frustrated enough by the system to get it. It's more than I can convey with words.

I've seen that video you linked before. that idea of thinking in systems is good, the guy is indirectly referencing dialectical materialism which is a useful way to look at the world.

What you're missing is that the economic system we have here in the US has systematically eroded almost all democratic mechanism available to us for change.

Most actions that we think of as being ways to demand or create change, that may have worked in the past, don't work anymore. For a complex series of reasons, including citizens united giving corporations rights reserved for people, urban infrastructure making it difficult to foster community, mass media and social media incentivized to polarize and distract, a labor structure that deprives us of all of our energy and time... it's just so much. This covers a good subset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEnv5I8Aq4I

The conclusion I've come to is you can only effect change if you have money. That's the only throughline in US public policy (which is what I was talking about here >>127686921
)

Maybe I'm wrong. But the recent atrocities we've witnessed seem to indicate that I'm not.

By all means, rock the boat. I just want you to see that what you think is rocking the boat, is not actually rocking the boat.
Anonymous No.127687837
>>127687714
i don't even disagree with what you're getting at (and i'm not going to pretend to know the full extent) but i don't see any of that as a reason to not try.
whether "try" constitutes something that, by your account, is probably pointless, or something more radical, i see both as preferable to folding and contributing to the path we are headed on now, no matter how small ones own individual impact may be.
Anonymous No.127689391 >>127689471 >>127720964
>>127679999 (OP)
What does prod think of the ep I've been working on for the last 2 years? It's about mania and the period after, plasticity. Finished mastering it and I am looking for feedback. Still need to end certain songs properly.
Anonymous No.127689471 >>127691656
>>127689391
https://vocaroo.com/187y2YW5bmOu
Oops lol
Anonymous No.127689604 >>127696189 >>127696958
https://vocaroo.com/1eKhCsKZiIt1
How do even you go about making something like this?
like the glitch effects; let alone everything else
Anonymous No.127690140
>>127684779
>not an argument
Of course if you isolate this tiny snippet of my post, you remove the context that makes it an argument, turning it into a statement lol.
The rest of the post where I explain why IS the argument.

>does *every* country?
Tge problem here is that the more nukes you have, the worse the problem becomes because nukes are physical objects (and we don't have Star Trek replicators), and every additional country having them is an additional chance of at least one of them making the (imo regrettable) choice of using them.
With AI, however, we're dealing with software and Internet services. Both of which can inflict pretty much the entire magnitude of its consequences even with just one of them.
As long as there's at least one music generator, the difference that 1 or 100 more is minimal.
As long as there's at least one, say, from China or some tiny country that billionaires moved their companies to, the problem won't be solved.
The only solution to AI doing its thing on the art industries, is every country outlawing it, which is extremely unlikely no matter how much we (a relatively small group of people) "fight" it.
Furthermore, local models that can just be downloaded, are essentially impossible to stop (but their consequences would indeed be less world-changing if they were relegated to illegal usages).

>>127684779
>your line of reasoning
You're assuming that I have this defeatist view on everything. I don't.
My only line of reasoning is to do what's most likely to lead to the most desirable (or least undesirable) outcome.
In this case, fighting it will lead to a worse outcome than accepting it, so I accept it and make some lemonade.
In other situations where something can be done, I don't have the same pessimistic attitude.

>>127687367
>pic
Lmao
Anonymous No.127690462
https://voca.ro/170EY0QYMKqE
kick drums tongue my anus
Anonymous No.127691646
https://voca.ro/1ovJZc3ktF3A
Anonymous No.127691656
>>127689471
I like it, I listened to the whole thing and wasn’t bothered by it. The usual mixing issue of too much sibilance and low mids. Reminded me a bit of Crystal Castles at the end there
Anonymous No.127693290
who knows... who knows,,,

https://vocaroo.com/1gaULFiNU1dd
Anonymous No.127693737 >>127694196
do yall like any of the airwindows EQs and if so when do you opt for them over your stock EQ?
Anonymous No.127694112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t3RKvAvK50
Boy I wish I'd seen this before I dropped 700 bucks on Ableton.
Anonymous No.127694196
>>127693737
MackEQ and ConsoleMD/LA directly followed by the corresponding buss to get retro kind of guitar/bass/drum tones.
Stonefire is really useful randomly as a sort of non-EQ EQ
BezEq is interesting and walks the line of sound design tool vs general EQ early in a chain

You should try to capture the sound well enough going in or in the box that it doesn't need much EQing to begin with, either recording instruments through EQs/preamps or designing synth patches.

If you're someone that regularly uses more than 4 parametric EQ bands and are constantly cutting and boosting random frequencies on every track then learn how to use less EQ in general. You really shouldn't need more than a low shelf/cut, low mid bell, high mid bell, and high shelf/cut for most things outside of sound design. More specifically, differentiate when you're using EQ as sound design or as EQ for the mix.
Anonymous No.127695931 >>127696217 >>127700059 >>127700074
anyone here understand mastering? not like dick around until you get something good or load up le soundgoodizer, but like know how to dick around *with purpose* ?? like, I have vague notion of, use multiband compression, make LOUDER, clip transients, etc, but I feel like I don't really have a framework. any resources for this?
Anonymous No.127696189
>>127689604
Just use SUNO and lie or produce 100 tracks/attempts. Minimum.
Anonymous No.127696217
>>127695931
The purpose of mastering as it relates to modern music is simply making sure that the song sounds good in a way that it translates to all kinds of sound systems. In other words, making sure your song sounds as good as it can in your car as it does on your stereo or headphones at home.

It's the last stage of polish before the song is released. Making it brighter, making it less harsh, making it bassier, less bassier, less boomy, more punchy and so on.

The purpose of mastering isnt making things loud just for the sake of being loud. Untill the advent of digital recordings, mastering simply was making sure that when the song was printed on to vinyl (usually testpressing), there wouldnt be any heavy bassy parts or loud transients in the song that would make the needle jump out the groove. Hence some compression or limiting or EQ was used to ensure that wouldnt happen.

In a nutshell, mastering is just making sure the song sounds as good as it possibly can.
Anonymous No.127696958
>>127689604
>How do even you go about making something like this?
break it down. try to recreate it. the song was made one piece at a time. Try to figure out what those pieces are, but especially how each piece interacts with others and contributes to the whole.

e.g. don't spend 3 hours trying to recreate the exact sounds he's using; try to figure out the essence of the sound, what it's doing, and why it works in context.
Anonymous No.127697524 >>127698233
lazy hazy crazy azy daysss

https://vocaroo.com/1aZPebEcfrCx
Anonymous No.127697858 >>127698073
https://voca.ro/1j6QGUTXfL3d

thoughts and prayers
Anonymous No.127698073
>>127697858
thots and players
Anonymous No.127698233
>>127697524
>https://vocaroo.com/1aZPebEcfrCx
That last bit is what it would sound like if you could just flush the DAW like a toilet to clear everything as it's playing. pretty cool.
Anonymous No.127698904 >>127702485 >>127736745
/prod/ in a nutshell
Anonymous No.127699062 >>127699067 >>127699082
>>127679999 (OP)
Alright anonymity, 1stly
>thank you so much for the links, saves questions asked of DAWs
2ndly
>what resources not covered in the links can anonymity recommend for Goth music? What kind of VSTs do anonymity recommend?
>TLDR, want to make tracks for 2 different genres, Goth Metal ala Type O negative & 80s Heavy metal ala Nazareth/Blue Oyster cult
Would /metal/ be a better place to ask about the latter?
Anonymous No.127699067 >>127699082
>>127699062
Now ANONS
fuck phoneposting is ass now nobody's gonna answer.
Anonymous No.127699082 >>127699145
>>127699062
>>127699067
fuck off, you stupid cunt
Anonymous No.127699140
Please get along.
Anonymous No.127699145
>>127699082
NO! I have a legitimate question. Answer or ignore me. I came in good faith looking for advice.
Anonymous No.127699239
https://vocaroo.com/1lUzBGGdWhJX

https://vocaroo.com/1j7kmA5ZW7fY

These two links are the same track, but one is slowed down and mixed slightly different in postprod.

Used free vsts and free effects.

Sorry -don't have any questions.

Just sharing.
Anonymous No.127699963
https://voca.ro/1giQJCSfvy6c

Just a melody and some chords at this point I’m going to develop it more tonight. Sounds pretty tho
Anonymous No.127700059
>>127695931
https://www.youtube.com/@Streaky_com

He’s good, actually a pro. Lots of mix sweetening ideas but a lot of ads
Anonymous No.127700074 >>127702103 >>127702322 >>127702463
>>127695931
I watched a pro guy mastering a track and he goes β€˜ hm needs less 500k,’ then EQued it. I’m ok at music but there’s no way I could listen to a track and hear a frequency buildup anywhere and then which area it was. So they spend all day doing it and get the knack. It there’s a lot more to it. And probably some of it’s not necessary.
Anonymous No.127702103
>>127700074
Do it for long enough and you start getting a sense of what things should sound like, which will make problems jump out at you.
At first it will only be big obvious ones, but as you get more experience it will be smaller and smaller ones, until maybe you reach that pro level that seems unfathomable right now.
Anonymous No.127702322
>>127700074
Like ear training for recognizing note intervals, there's "ear training" you can do for EQ.
How do you think loud sound guys know what to change on the fly? It's just practice and if you can't hear something wrong with a song you haven't been doing it long enough.

Mixing/mastering people are solving the same problems every day so it's more easily repeatable to them but you should know what frequencies tend to be problems if you finish songs enough or record live instruments enough. That's where "magic frequencies" come in which are partly junk but partly true of areas where you might cut/boost for "professional" sounds.
Anonymous No.127702463 >>127702485
>>127700074
>needs less 500k
was the mastering engineer a dog??
Anonymous No.127702485 >>127702541 >>127702571
>>127698904
annoying bocchi/kon poster doing the same slop for years in shambles

>>127702463
lmao my thoughts as well
Anonymous No.127702541 >>127702573 >>127702611
>>127702485
>nnoying bocchi/kon poster doing the same slop for years in shambles
I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times
- Steve Aoki
Anonymous No.127702571
>>127702485
u haven’t been around to see me genre hop u o e n o bro

i laughed anyway tho
Anonymous No.127702573 >>127702595
>>127702541
he wishes he could make a song as anthemic as woop woop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO6Y9_5e7A
Anonymous No.127702595
>>127702573
All Bob Rifo (using the Hov Dominator Sylenth1 preset)
Anonymous No.127702604 >>127702613 >>127702623 >>127704782 >>127707775
What do I do if I want to make electronic music but don't want to use samples for drums? I have lots of synths but am kinda lost when it comes to drums.
Anonymous No.127702611 >>127702621
>>127702541
i'm about to practice 10,000 kicks on your face, motherbitch
Anonymous No.127702613 >>127702667
>>127702604
excellent excuse to not make any music at all
Anonymous No.127702621
>>127702611
Do you have cute feet?
Anonymous No.127702623 >>127702667
>>127702604
either get over yourself and stop being a fag or learn to make them
Anonymous No.127702667 >>127702677 >>127702705 >>127702929
>>127702613
What do you mean?
>>127702623
Where do I learn to make them?
Anonymous No.127702677
>>127702667
timewasting troll, go away
Anonymous No.127702705
>>127702667
we don't take kindly to spoonfeedin' 'round these parts, kiddo
Anonymous No.127702713 >>127702724 >>127702914
guys the new season of the ground breaking revolutionary fps game THE FINALS dropped today

idk if i’m gonna make any music for like a week now 8(
Anonymous No.127702724 >>127702753
>>127702713
Our ears are saved
Anonymous No.127702753
>>127702724
you should show your gratitude by downloading and playing
Anonymous No.127702914 >>127702983
>>127702713
A break every once in a while is good for creativity. You'll probably come back refreshed and anti-writer's-blocked.
Anonymous No.127702929
>>127702667
YouTube
Anonymous No.127702983 >>127703010
>>127702914
i was joking literally nothing will make me take a break
Anonymous No.127703010
>>127702983
I'm both proud and disappointed at the same time.
Anonymous No.127703728 >>127703758 >>127703998
Anyone have an idea how to make the pad in this track? It sounds super aliased, bit reduced, sample reduced, whatever. But I've tried using Redux and Ableton's Erosion but they don't result in this sound with the settings I tried. Maybe it's just a layer, idk.
https://youtu.be/vD1m4flw_Ko

Similar pads on the whole album and it was produced by OPN apparently.
Anonymous No.127703747
Do you have a place to get MIDI files for drum loops and phrases?
I am struggling to program rhythms I'd like some starters/presets to get me started and customize.
Anonymous No.127703758 >>127703998
>>127703728
even more pronounced here from like 2:40
https://youtu.be/JHLJMlTzTMQ
Anonymous No.127703998
>>127703758
>>127703728
bounce before throwing it into sampler or a granulator. you just want that static tone.
unironically i think airwindows bit glitter is much better in this instance than redux.

https://vocaroo.com/1iGL2t3fPJz2
Anonymous No.127704782
>>127702604
Drum samples?
You mean Drum loops? or the one shots?
>You don't need to use drum samples(prerecorded drum loops)
>Just program your own drums with the oneshots you like.
>Look up basic drum patterns and experiment.
e.g. kick on the 1 and 3, snare on two and four

If you mean make your own drum sounds? Not even using oneshots.
>You can do that also. You'll need Serum but you can do it. There tutorials for everything. Just look up how to make the drumsounds


>Or buy Ezdrummer 3 idk
Anonymous No.127704812 >>127704858 >>127704891
How does one gain clout as a music artist?
Anonymous No.127704858 >>127704876
>>127704812
>be sociable
>be charismatic
>have swag
>be hot
>be good
Anonymous No.127704876 >>127704932
>>127704858
>0/5
Fuck
Can I buy any of this?
Anonymous No.127704891
>>127704812
say israel or something
Anonymous No.127704932 >>127718160
>>127704876
you can absolutely pay for a stylist and ghost writing.
you cannot, however, pay for taste
Anonymous No.127705153 >>127705273
Not sure if this is a great place to ask this, but are there any keyboards or synthesizers that aren't complete shit and could suit an absolute beginner to keys for under $150?
Anonymous No.127705196 >>127705303 >>127713913
Is there a way to have a reverb just trigger on one note and then turn it off again but keep it ringing out? i guess I could put the reverb on a return track and then automate the send to 100% just for the duration of that one note. just turning the reverb on and off kills the reverb tail of course.
Anonymous No.127705273 >>127705341
>>127705153
when you say keyboards or synthesisers, what do you mean by keyboards? midi controllers? and what is shit to you? of you're looking for piano action then most synth keys are gonna be "shit" but if you're just looking for decent synth style key action then there are plenty to choose from. arturia keystep and akai mpk mini plus come to mind
Anonymous No.127705303
>>127705196
yes
Anonymous No.127705341 >>127705376
>>127705273
By shit I'm mostly talking about the hardware having a short lifespan or being faulty shortly after purchasing. I have no real standards or preferences, I'm just looking for something with keys to fuck around on and get a feel for. As far as I have seen, midi controllers require basically need to be used with something else to be functional, which I'd rather not start with. I guess I would want an actual instrument I can turn on and just start making sound from the unit itself. Thing is I'd like something with different sounds/effects.
Anonymous No.127705376 >>127705423 >>127705561
>>127705341
what do you mean by different sounds and effects? if you get a synth you simply program the sound you want. are you saying you want a workstation? either way, there's fuck all for that price. yamaha reface cs would be the entry point for a decent synth with actual keys.
also midi is for beginners too, idk what misconceptions you have but there seem to be many.
Anonymous No.127705423 >>127705466
>>127705376
So with a synth, do I use a workstation to program the sounds, but I can then play the synth with whatever it has been programmed away from the computer/DAW as you would a piano?
Anonymous No.127705466 >>127705508
>>127705423
m8, a synth is a standalone instrument, so is a workstation.
Anonymous No.127705508
>>127705466
I don't really know the differences between the kinds of keyed instruments, sorry.
Anonymous No.127705561
>>127705376
You don't need a "workstation"


Can second that a Yamaha reface cs would fit your needs.
Anonymous No.127705583
Who made this experimental music track? I've been trying to find out for six years.
https://vocaroo.com/1i7POC1TithM
Anonymous No.127705871
relationship between compression parameters is weird.
Anonymous No.127706276 >>127706322
https://vocaroo.com/11zSixekxzJL

idk i'm dry today
Anonymous No.127706287 >>127706322 >>127706345
https://voca.ro/13oIlm41vi1b

this is a test pls ignore
Anonymous No.127706322
>>127706276
Early/mid 00's japanese video game core. I like it.
>>127706287
Neat slow jam.
Kind of reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaheXqXQiLo
Obviously different, but similar mood. Kind of.
Anonymous No.127706345
>>127706287
>deleted while I was listening to it for the second time
Thank god I downloaded it! Super rare senpai track GEッTTO!!
Anonymous No.127707185
mixing anything older than a year always give me so much second hand cringe jfc like what were you even doing how did you not fucking DIE from being so STUPID are you DEAF?
Anonymous No.127707350
wtf I didn't know ferry had a radio show too
Anonymous No.127707473
which kcathedral is the best? :thinking:
Anonymous No.127707775
>>127702604
You can make snares, kicks, hats and shakers from absolutely anything. Venus theory made a drum pack from a recording of him eating celery and carrots.
Anonymous No.127708068 >>127708094 >>127708204
Tonverk has wings
https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2025/09/10/elektron-tonverk-officially-announced-but-no-octatrack-killer/
Finally... I will make music.
(._. ) {we all know how that goes...}
Anonymous No.127708094 >>127708115
>>127708068
no you HAVE to make music now
Anonymous No.127708115 >>127708204
>>127708094
I know, except it doesn't look like it has a nice slicing feature... I shall pray for a firmware update.
...and then JUST DO IT!
Anonymous No.127708204
>>127708068
>>127708115
Damn, yeah, this is not the one.
Time to go back into hibernation.
Anonymous No.127708322
guys i'm going to mix all my idm and deconstructed tracks from last year.
and then...
>???
>profit
Anonymous No.127708427 >>127711565
Ok!

https://vocaroo.com/15i3v4QaEjGg
Anonymous No.127709723
/rip/ /dmp/
Anonymous No.127710477 >>127715154
How do anons approach their song writing? I'm still in the kind of place as a newbie where I mostly make ideas and small loops or chord progressions and usually haven't got the time or experience to flesh them out into more complete ideas. Recently I've started dedicating a bit more time to it and still get stuck in the loop tweeking stage, but I'm actually finding ideas on how to progress it into something bigger from just messing around with a 10 second loop. Is this how anons usually work, or do you tend to get a whole idea down as quick as possible (even if it's just basic chords and placeholder sounds) then work on fleshing it out from there? Maybe it's different each time and dependant different factors?
Anonymous No.127711565
>>127708427
/r9k/s unofficial anthem.
Was really smooth untill the distortion came in.
Anonymous No.127711621 >>127711856 >>127713077 >>127713694
https://vocaroo.com/1dvGoNH894OM

Been trying to get that Daft Punk/Justice french house sound. Mostly just an idea right now, but any pointers welcome.
Anonymous No.127711741 >>127711787
They're onto us sisters
>>>/pol/515534062
What's our next move?
Anonymous No.127711787
>>127711741
>charlie kirk
Anonymous No.127711856
>>127711621
nice bro, finish the track and let us know.
Anonymous No.127713077 >>127713087 >>127713144
>>127711621
Sounds more like kavinsky tbqh
Because the main synth is a near 1:1 copy of testarossa kek
Anonymous No.127713087 >>127713302
>>127713077
For reference:
https://youtu.be/PuFBmKAR07U
Anonymous No.127713144 >>127713302
>>127713077
>Because the main synth is a near 1:1 copy of testarossa kek
You're thinking of the Sebastian Remix. Aerodynamic was the inspiration for the synth though.
>Sounds more like kavinsky tbqh
Well, there's worse things to be compared to.
Anonymous No.127713302 >>127713336 >>127721085
>>127713144
Yes, that's literally what I meant retard see >>127713087
>theres worse things
If your goal was to create a French house clone sure, if your goal was to made a French house inspired track you failed since you just blatantly copied
Anonymous No.127713336 >>127713414
>>127713302
what crawled up your ass
Anonymous No.127713414
>>127713336
You
Anonymous No.127713694 >>127714081
>>127711621
It sounds like you copied the instruments from popular french house tracks and stuck them together into one track. You accomplished your goal of sounding like Justice, but beyond that it sounds boring. How about you add some originality in it that would make the track stand on its own without it sounding like a Justice clone?
Anonymous No.127713913 >>127713926 >>127714368
Actually, there's a problem with the >>127705196 approach which is that a 100% send to a return track results in a 50% wet at most. Is there another way to do it that results in a 100%?
Anonymous No.127713926 >>127713945
>>127713913
put the reverb on the track instead?
Anonymous No.127713945 >>127713983
>>127713926
Yes, but then how do I have the reverb tail on a single note only? If I automate the reverb to turn off after the note, it kills the tail too.
Anonymous No.127713983 >>127714022 >>127714954
>>127713945
copy an instance of the track, delete everything else but that one note and put reverb on it.
The other track plays everything else except that one note with reverb on it.
You can also bounce it down to audio to save on performance.
Anonymous No.127714022 >>127714685
>>127713983
if that's the only way to do it then it's kind of weird that you have to do dumb workarounds like this. why don't reverbs just have a "stop taking in new audio but continue playing the current reverbed audio until fully decayed button"? seems like it would be more useful than shit like predelay which every reverb has for some reason.
Anonymous No.127714081 >>127720979
>>127713694
>You accomplished your goal of sounding like Justice
Which was kinda the point? I said I was trying to get that Justice/Daft Punk sound, never claimed it was some great, original piece, just that it was an idea. It's derivative as hell, that I was aware of, why do you think I posted an image of a guy wearing a cardboard Daft Punk helmet?
Anonymous No.127714368 >>127714933
>>127713913
>a 100% send to a return track results in a 50% wet at most. Is there another way to do it that results in a 100%?

In Ableton at any rate you can bump up the level of the return track beyond unity gain, which would increase its level relative to the dry track, a Utility device would let you increase it even further, but you'd still hear the original source (dry) track to an extent too.

To get 100% wet (thus, no dry signal at all being heard) you'd need to use some other method that involves sending the source (dry) signal to the reverb return track pre-fader, so that you can automate the fader to silence the dry track, that's usually how it's done with hardware mixers, either manually with older mixers or using mixer automation with newer ones.
Anonymous No.127714685 >>127714933
>>127714022
It's such a niche issue that I doubt anyone will bother with the effort of programming something like that.
Anonymous No.127714734 >>127714793 >>127714813 >>127715032 >>127715058 >>127715154
is it normal to think that everthing you make sucks and you have zero skill, taste and originality?
Anonymous No.127714793
>>127714734
huh?
Anonymous No.127714813
>>127714734
if you're bad and not deluded about your own ability that's kind of the only conclusion for you to reach
Anonymous No.127714933 >>127714954
>>127714368
I actually think I might be able to do the thing I'm thinking about with racks inside abeoton as an insert, just switch signal paths after the reverb triggers and I think it'll continue to ring out. haven't had the opportunity to try yet. also have never used racks in Ableton before, so maybe this is my leveling up arc
>>127714685
is it really such a niche or unusual application that someone would want a reverb on a track only to pick up one note and then ring out while the rest keeps playing dry? it's a pretty cool effect. ive heard it in some stuff before too. also it's pretty common to automate a reverb or delay to on just for the last snippet of an audio track, so I feel like doing it in the middle of something playing isn't that far fetched.
Anonymous No.127714954 >>127715014
>>127714933
Just do what >>127713983 said and stop spazzing out because plugins doesnt do your production for you.
Anonymous No.127715014 >>127715115
>>127714954
>being able to automate a thing = plugin does the production for you
so you don't automate? got bad news for you if so
hey why don't you program your own max msp instruments too?
Anonymous No.127715032
>>127714734
https://vocaroo.com/1dD8fXeJ29VS
yes
Anonymous No.127715058
>>127714734
for me it's that I am a god at composition but I can't produce in a way that does it any justice
Anonymous No.127715071 >>127715116
the science is settled.
Anonymous No.127715115 >>127715179
>>127715014
Your whole idea is stupid in the first place unless you want your computer to burst into flames because the CPU load is too high. The reason being is that the only way it's feasible for a reverb plugin to only ring out one note while the rest is dry is to apply reverb to every single midi note induvidually, which for a chord means anywhere from 3 to 7 induvidual instances of reverb applied, now assuming there's some reverb tail overlapping other notes and chords, it means that at any given time, the reverb plugin has to apply reverb to as much as 40-60 unique instances simultaneously.

If you just had done as the other anon said an hour ago, you would have been done with it long ago and moved onto something else in your production, but you're still here, complaining about something that everyone else would have been able to fix in 2 minutes.
Anonymous No.127715116
>>127715071
never read something this retarded before
>don't microwave a metal container: True
wow thanks, very elucidating
Anonymous No.127715143
fpbp
Anonymous No.127715154
>>127714734
>>127710477
everything I make is terrible regardless of the method
Anonymous No.127715179 >>127715272
>>127715115
I was never talking about one midi note per chord, let alone sending every single note to a different reverb. I was simply talking about applying the reverb to only take in one second or so of playback and then let that tail ring out while not doing anything else to the signal.

also, this is /prod/ I had a question about how to do something, and if there isn't a less convoluted way to do the thing since it seems like a straightforward application (to me), and there's nothing wrong with asking if somebody else knows a smarter way (which i figured out myself wirh the racks), idk m8 I'm just trying to learn and assumed I was missing a more practical solution
Anonymous No.127715272 >>127715311
>>127715179
> was simply talking about applying the reverb to only take in one second or so of playback and then let that tail ring out while not doing anything else to the signal.
Then just automate the send
Anonymous No.127715292
this reverb thing is so fucking simple and should not have inspired so many replies lol
Anonymous No.127715311 >>127715318
>>127715272
and as I already explained, a 100% send leads to a 50% wet signal, and if i automate a mute on the track it's coming from, then it doesn't get sent to the return track. again, I've already found a workaround, i just didn't think a workaround would've been necessary
Anonymous No.127715318 >>127715341
>>127715311
are you retarded thats 100 and 100
Anonymous No.127715341 >>127715346
>>127715318
wow, so the same result as a 50. do you even understand how dry/wet works? it simply changes the volume level relationship between a fully wet and a fully dry signal so the sound you end up with when you send 100% of the track to the return is both playing at the same volume, which guess what, is rhe same putting the wet/dry knob at 50%

anyway, I'm just gonna hope you were just baiting
Anonymous No.127715346 >>127715428
>>127715341
you are so retarded do you understand how gain works. im glad the spoon hits your mouth in the morning
Anonymous No.127715428 >>127715550
>>127715346
bro I was talking about the timbral quality to begin with you fucking retard. wow, put a 6db attenuation on them, who the fuck cares. the actual sonic result is the exact same (supposing the plugin responds linearly) as putting an insert at 50/50 as you're combining the dry and wet signal in equal measure. you're either too retarded to understand that the question was never about this, or you're a retard who thinks he has to chime in and intentionally miss the pint so he can drop an "umm akshually" when in reality he has nothing at all worthwhile to contribute.
Anonymous No.127715550
>>127715428
this is how i know damn well you dont hit the limiter nicely
Anonymous No.127715569
i feel like the pro-q frequency masking indicator is punking me a lot of the time t b h
Anonymous No.127716265
Smushed peaks don't always sound bad i m o
Anonymous No.127717846 >>127717951 >>127722643
>>127679999 (OP)
Check out this cool lil loop i made

https://vocaroo.com/1ed79SlF8QSW
Anonymous No.127717951 >>127722643
>>127717846
even with just the drums n bass it slaps 2 weeks from now this'll be slappington city

https://vocaroo.com/1oVSmZhVrjoU
Anonymous No.127718160 >>127718695 >>127721778
>>127704932
What if you pay someone with taste to be your creative director while you just act as the frontman like they do in pop?
Anonymous No.127718565 >>127718692
What can I add to the mix (of a rock song) to make it sound more lo-fi without going overboard or wannabe my bloody valentine
Anonymous No.127718692
>>127718565
You can grab an EQ and roll of the cymbals and the top end of the guitars at 10K, then add a little tape saturation to give it that "hot tape" sound.
Then it will sound something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHqr_CaiKZY
Anonymous No.127718695
>>127718160
Good idea
Anonymous No.127719573 >>127728565
>>127682679
>Or better yet, how can we use it to our advantage?
If you're feeling really dry, generate an AI song then steal/rearrange/Yoko Kanno the shit out of the track and do the actual instrumentation by humans played with analog instruments. Not sure on the legal and publishing side but once you've modified it enough you could probably get away with it as your own.

iirc some millenial guitarists already do something like this, Richardson something and Henson cmiiw generate arpeggios using DAWs and VSTs and then transcribe it on the guitar.
Anonymous No.127720964
>>127689391
It’s cool, dude! A bit boring desu.
Anonymous No.127720979 >>127724302
>>127714081
Yeah good for you anon. Insecure fags itt think every new song has to prove something. I like it
Anonymous No.127721085
>>127713302
Settle down faggot you sound jealous. Post your shit that’s so inspired
Anonymous No.127721132
did porter robinson just kill a guy?
Anonymous No.127721376
FL (Florida) Studio apartments for rent
Anonymous No.127721699 >>127734091
Plebs and fools ("most anons" if you will) don't realise that you are not allowed to post any vocaroos here unless you are pushing the boundaries of modern music and making something fresh and unheard of. Beginners and intermediate frauds be warned - if you post your 1-5-6-4 chord progression here, or your learning exercises where you copy a song from another artist, you will be hunted and killed like the animal you are. I don't make the rules *pumps shotgun* I just enforce them.
Anonymous No.127721778 >>127721791 >>127735546
>>127718160
you are still the final filter.
people do that and fail still. who do you think is β€œdirecting” all these awful pop acts?
Anonymous No.127721791
>>127721778
I will only pick people with millions of followers and an article on a Conde Nast magazine calling them a tastemaker.
Anonymous No.127721956 >>127722945 >>127723754
i hate americans
Anonymous No.127722643 >>127727742
>>127717846
>https://vocaroo.com/1oVSmZhVrjoU
>>127717951
It cool I coomed on it https://vocaroo.com/1bN9YVMz6etP
Anonymous No.127722945 >>127722990 >>127723346
>>127721956
All the worst posters in threads are ESLs or British
Anonymous No.127722990 >>127723754
>>127722945
no all the most obnoxious posters are bots and american chuds
Anonymous No.127723108 >>127725638
It's big synth.
Anonymous No.127723259 >>127725298 >>127725898
im bored of posting to the void where else can i shill my music other than /mu/?
Anonymous No.127723346
>>127722945
you wouldnt even know if it is a swede behind a post because their ebonics is well articulated.
Anonymous No.127723754
>>127721956
>>127722990
correct and based
Anonymous No.127724302
>>127720979
It's derivative, I'll admit that. I wanted to make something with the energy of Aerodymanic by Daft Punk. And sure, it's almost a copy of certain Ed Banger songs. But I had no intentions of releasing it. It's just that I've tried to nail down the sound of Daft Punk and Justice for years and I was kinda proud that I finally managed to get the drums right, with the exception of the obvious sampled Justice hi-hats.
Just years of fucking around with 707 and Linndrum drum and bass kontakt libraries.
Anonymous No.127725273
>put softsynth into reverb
>press oversampling on softsynth
>mfw
Anonymous No.127725298 >>127725314
>>127723259
walmart.com product reviews.
Anonymous No.127725314
>>127725298
Is this true?
Anonymous No.127725638
>>127723108
4u
Anonymous No.127725898
>>127723259
>sign up for dating app
>make your profile funny and creative, but also shill your music
>collect groupies
Anonymous No.127727299 >>127727372 >>127732612
anon "plays" piano

https://vocaroo.com/19bArsxhrE1m
Anonymous No.127727372 >>127727486
>>127727299
mmm, you mean senpai 'plays' piano.
You nailed that Japanese sound; almost sounds like covers since the harmonic language is so spot on and different from your usual, but your sound design is unmistakable, making it yours.
Anonymous No.127727486 >>127731162
>>127727372
mmmm these are pretty old so my memory is hazy and i may have just been having a ghibli moment, but i only recall explicitly copying that one melody from totoro lol.
>different from your usual
damn i feel like that was all standard stuff... i guess i haven't been posting a lot of melodic stuff for a while ._.
Anonymous No.127727557
https://vocaroo.com/1jDxLx8BMFE2
Anonymous No.127727577
https://voca.ro/19mDdoztCpYp

What do you retards think of this? It’s about 60% done and I’m open to suggestions
Anonymous No.127727742 >>127729047
>>127722643
dayum mr shred it sounds like demolition group now lol

https://youtu.be/hH0tweZgLdc
Anonymous No.127727891
>>127679999 (OP)
Smells like FUUUUUHHHHHK? Might be pussy in there, there's the Nathan's hot dog eatin contest goin on in there
Salty dogs
Anonymous No.127728565 >>127729047
>>127682679
>>127719573
I was thinking that if you have a somewhat unique sound you could try to establish it as its own subgenre or scene by using AI to churn out copycats to popularize it, and the more it gets popular, the more you (as the originator) get clout and recognition.
You could use long-term promotion methods on your main account, and short-term ones like botting views/engagement on the copycats, and just let them get penalized in the long term by the algorithm. As long as your sound gets views on TikTok or whatever, it doesn't matter which account it's from.
You could even meme in the comments on how shitty the copycat is, like "we got anon at home" jokes and whatnot.
Anonymous No.127729047 >>127729298
>>127727742
Thanks for the rec, I'd never had heard of them from my geographical and musical background.
>>127728565
Would be funny if this is already in the works. Was reading a lot of obviously botted comments defending and polishing off yungblud on videos shitting on him regarding the VMA performance.
Anonymous No.127729298
>>127729047
brb generating gigabytes of armpit fetish softcore porn to spam 4chan with
Anonymous No.127729419 >>127730912
i can't continue working whenever i get hungry, brb curse dispelling
https://vocaroo.com/1mvL0a2BGFJq
Anonymous No.127729790 >>127730912 >>127732691
I'm absolutely stuck with a demo song I have in mind.
I'm usually happy with the results I get, but it's the first black metal song I write and it turns out like absolute dogshit no matter what I try.
Both rythm and lead guitars sound so surprisingly bad I'm at my wit's ends. It can't be only because I'm tuned a whole step down, there's something fundamentally wrong, sound-wise, and I can't put my finger on.
Any idea to improve this? (other than delete the whole project because I suck at playing)
Here's the first minute of the demo song. I only recorded the first couple of bars with the lead guitar and didn't record the bass yet: https://vocaroo.com/1jETvckSA7T6
I'm using a Focusrite audio interface, FL Studio and Amplitube for the amp sim. All recorded pre-processing so I can tweak it. Feels like I used a baby monitor for recording.

For reference, I'm usually more into punk songs. Sorry if it sounds weird, I'm still learning to compose/play/record/mix: https://vocaroo.com/16oGTJcc6tHA
Anonymous No.127730912 >>127730995 >>127732691
>>127729419
I uploaded the track, to realize the sampled pluck was out of key. when i tried to reopen the project to fix it, i find out that I couldn't because it is being held hostage by a kontakt instance. rip
https://vocaroo.com/12BzxYJCmWWo
>>127729790
bring up the guitar in the background and the drums in the mix, they sound buried.
bring out the mids and highs of background guitar with some EQ to help it cut through in the mix.
use a transient shaper or/and compressor on the drums.
i know nothing about double tracking, just mentioning it
Anonymous No.127730920
new secret weapon dropped
Anonymous No.127730984 >>127731077 >>127731102 >>127731939
what's a good shimmer reverb? strangely ableton doesn't have a stock one. valhalla shimmer?
Anonymous No.127730995
>>127730912
I agree that the guitar sounds buried.
The guitars are double tracked (hard panned as usual), and here's the EQ I'm already using.
I'll look into transient shaper and/or compressor on the drums, thanks (I just made the drums with FPC, I don't know much).
Anonymous No.127731077
>>127730984
don't fall for the shimmer meme
one trick pony sound
Anonymous No.127731102
>>127730984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO57ITnbOGk
Anonymous No.127731155 >>127731306
https://vocaroo.com/1h7JW6kgZS2J
boo bass supremacy
Anonymous No.127731162
>>127727486
>explicitly copying that one melody from totoro
:D
I'm not going to do a deep analysis, but just gut feel, maybe it's pentatonic-rich melodies that are giving me those Japanese music vibes.
With the exception of the piano sounds, some parts remind me of mu-ziq's Hasty Boom Alert era. I think I've made that connection before about some of your clips, but it's been awhile.
Very nice to have a long medley again.
Anonymous No.127731306 >>127731333
>>127731155
boossed
Anonymous No.127731333 >>127731383
>>127731306
BooBass
BoobAss
coincidence?
Anonymous No.127731343
FM Synthesis is a fucking meme
Anonymous No.127731383
>>127731333
probably
Anonymous No.127731939
>>127730984
ableton has a shimmer, it’s in hybrid reverb bro
Anonymous No.127732612
>>127727299
Didn’t expect a 5 minute song from you today. Very cool. Thanks for posting, tranny-kun
Anonymous No.127732691 >>127733159
>>127729790
>>127730912
After much frustration, I think I understand the problem.
I've doubled tracked the first part and recorded it post-processing, and then did the same and recorded pre-processing.
Post: https://vocaroo.com/17sMERezTWKb
Pre: https://vocaroo.com/1mNYMLCYGWml
I don't understand why the guitars sound so bad when I use pre-processing, since the audio it goes through the exact same plugins when I play it (as far as I understand).
Am I missing something obvious?
Anonymous No.127732697
https://vocaroo.com/1a1yo0HQrfOv
ambient track
Anonymous No.127733159 >>127733469
>>127732691

For starters, you're not comparing like with like. Your post-processing recording has the guitars panned left and right, the pre-processing version has them collapsed to mono. Image related.

What are you listening back on? You should be able to hear that this is happening.
airwindows No.127733269
https://voca.ro/194iKyfM8EFW

Fuck all omniscient interdimensional garden gnomes
Anonymous No.127733469 >>127733519 >>127733566
>>127733159
>For starters, you're not comparing like with like. Your post-processing recording has the guitars panned left and right, the pre-processing version has them collapsed to mono. Image related.
That's true, I didn't think of that.
I made a new channel to send the right guitar. Which means panning the audio on the mixer and not on the audio clip, right?
Surprisingly, I don't hear the left guitar anymore (drum still goes on) unless I click on the button I highlighted. I'm guess I'm going something horribly wrong again.
>What are you listening back on?
I'm using supermarket Sony headphones out of courtesy to the neighbours.
>You should be able to hear that this is happening
Sorry, I didn't notice.
Anonymous No.127733519
>>127733469
Woops, turns out I somehow disabled sending from insert 1 to master.
Man, it's so complex to understand it all. Feels like I'm mostly using the software blind.
Anonymous No.127733566 >>127733658
>>127733469
each channel in the mixer routes to the master(button.png) by default. however feel free to reroute, just make sure the final output is routed to the master(ex: you can unroute insert 5 from the master (like you did in the pic with insert 1), and then route it to insert 6 instead. as long as insert 6 is routed to the master means the signal from insert 5 still gets routed to the master along insert 6)
we've all been there
Anonymous No.127733658 >>127733786 >>127733883 >>127734494
>>127733566
Thanks a lot, anon.
What did you use to get your post vs pre pic? I guess a vizualiser would come in handy to avoid (some) other stupid mistakes.
Anonymous No.127733786 >>127733874 >>127733960
>>127733658
i'm not the anon who posted the pre/post pic, but that's a stereo meter, a Lissajous in particular
Anonymous No.127733874
>>127733786
The amount of knowledge and know-how is both fascinating and overwhelming.
Anonymous No.127733883 >>127733960 >>127733973
>>127733658
>What did you use to get your post vs pre pic?

Screenshots are of the Wavelab "Phase Scope" tool., image related
Anonymous No.127733960 >>127734014
>>127733786
>Lissajous
my bad, it's not, but what >>127733883 posted(phasescope/phasemeter, i just call them stereo imaging lol)
Anonymous No.127733973
>>127733883
Thanks, anon. I understand audio a little bit more today.
Anonymous No.127734014
>>127733960
>Lissajous
One of the KORG softwares for the Nintendo 3DS has one of these meters and it looks sick-as-fuck with the 3d effect.
Anonymous No.127734091
>>127721699
https://vocaroo.com/1T4XAdQABCen
Anonymous No.127734494 >>127737951
>>127733658
There's a vectorscope built in with wavecandy
https://youtu.be/NVfYHEF2oKE?t=57
https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-learning/fl-studio-online-manual/html/plugins/Wave%20Candy.htm
You can use spectrum to figure out notes in chords
https://youtu.be/wJX7qjVnPmk?t=35

Unfortunately FPC isn't gonna cut it for that kind of music. For decent sounding drums you should wait for something like EZ Drummer to go on sale for Black Friday and get one of those bundles which gives you two expansion packs. Or some similar real drum plugin.
Anonymous No.127734831 >>127734960 >>127735162
>>127679999 (OP)
Applying to a video game music gig
https://voca.ro/169G2DUWyWeK
The guy asked me to make a track inspired by a specific Tyler the Creator instrumental
In the end it sounds more like Anomalie/Tennyson but it's still good, right?
airwindows No.127734956 >>127734980 >>127735532 >>127735538
Surely you prep your DJ sets and then slice down and choreograph your performance, not just out there riffing on whatever, right?
Anonymous No.127734960 >>127735085
>>127734831
Yo, is dis gonna be 4 the Persona 6 soundtrak?
Anonymous No.127734980 >>127735532 >>127735997
>>127734956
are there people that don't..? what the hell
like imagine a band just like, not rehearsing lol
Anonymous No.127735010 >>127735426
bruh i have not been keeping up with airwindows diligently for a while but what the FRICK is pointy deluxe?

i feel like this could actually definitely do THINGS (that it was never intended for) but wtf is Chris's problem lol
Anonymous No.127735085
>>127734960
Hah Persona 3 was actually given as a reference too
And I wish, but no, a small indie game, top-down rpg type deal
Anonymous No.127735162 >>127737531
>>127734831
Not familiar with production of those artists but sounds good, hear some cool influences of different styles. There was a bit in the bridge around 1:10 that was nice, kinda reminded me of like a bo en run

A few notes
Whatever you do with the acoustic around 8s and 1:47 over the snare sidechains or muffles the mix a bit too much so I'd try to make that feel more even.
Mellow out the highs of the lead synth and some of the fast attack chord synth, 3db low pass might help
Volume levels are a little inconsistent throughout the track and had me turning up/down, the bass synth is way too loud around 44s and again 2:20. The patch sounds a little basic/boring like a preset pluck patch, just a little bit of filter or envelope modulation would help that
Drop the "hey" sample unless requested, just kinda tacky imo
Outro was nice but it could maybe seem out of place to someone, you could drop hints with some of the arpeggios or chords in other parts of the track like when a hip hop sample is heard as part of a beat but then you hear the source at the end

Nothing negative to say, just mixing/volume consistency would be the things I'd worry about. You sound like you know what you're doing so it's mainly listening to your customer.
Anonymous No.127735426 >>127735470
>>127735010
PD is incredibly based, been having a lot of fun with it on everything even if it's hard to tune something in at first. Once you understand how bands interact with each other, it makes slightly more sense.

The frequency band names are based on a cringe old boomer rant manual that I always found rambly and didn't make much sense ever following, Slipperman's Recording Distorted
Guitars Thread From Hell

If you haven't been following diligently, TapeHack is nice, TakeCare is a cool/weird ensemble chorus, and ChimeyGuitar is surprisingly useful for synths in addition to guitar
Anonymous No.127735470
>>127735426
ah, thanks i've heard of it but never gotten around to reading this <.<

tape hack honestly feels like cheating it just sounds good on everything
Anonymous No.127735489
stock ableton sample btw

https://vocaroo.com/1kXmEl90GLD1
Anonymous No.127735532
>>127734956
>performance

Yeah DJs who see themselves as performers need to pre-plan their sets maybe, because as >>127734980 said

>like imagine a band just like, not rehearsing lol

It's a produced performance and I get why that needs to be timed split-second and choreographed, but even DJs who are renowned for seemingly winging it, like Jeff Mills, can still be predictable within his envelope. Like you might not know WHEN he's gonna play The Bells, but you know he's gonna play it, kinda like [current band] playing [current hit] is expected.

Not my favourite kind of DJ at all however, I much prefer DJs with no playlist at all who can go off grid at any second if they think the crowd will go with them, and even some times when they're not sure if the crowd will go with them.

Always been a big fan of Laurent Garnier for that attitude, with more focus on the music and not the DJ. I DJed for a long time in a previous life and I always tended towards that ethos, tried to focus on the music the way I wanted the crowd to, and tailored my sets to maximise that focus in them.
Anonymous No.127735538 >>127735713
>>127734956
Off topic, not music production
Anonymous No.127735546
>>127721778
And they still become famous because they have the money for marketing, radio time and professional mix polish. They can literally pay to have their garbage taste pushed onto the masses. Then the stuff becomes popular out of familiarity alone.
Anonymous No.127735608 >>127735692
i hate phase plant so god damn much

is the r2r "subscription" thing on audioz basically what was formerly the toolbox? (i.e everything that kilohearts offers) and reliable?
the old version i have installed is perfectly usable, but fairly buggy in certain contexts...,,
Anonymous No.127735692 >>127735715
>>127735608
lmaoing at pirate "chad" beggars
airwindows No.127735713
>>127735538
You produce a set of produced tracks and it's music woa
Anonymous No.127735715 >>127735790
>>127735692
i take what i want BETA
Anonymous No.127735790
>>127735715
>p-p-p-please m-mr. cwacker, can i-i-i have a working cwack
Anonymous No.127735962
i need more power 8(

https://vocaroo.com/1ku2jbXv4RZO
airwindows No.127735997 >>127736010 >>127737006
>>127734980
Of all the DJs I've met the only ones who say they prep surgically are pros everyone who says they don't are locked locally
Not one single exception, it's like the moment you accept prep is the moment youre get paid enough to be pro
The rest is branding
Anonymous No.127736010 >>127736089
>>127735997
>the only ones who put in the extra work are pros
i am shocked!
airwindows No.127736089 >>127736118
>>127736010
Youre overestimating the extra work.. I guess if we added in all the production skills you need ok but if we assume prod skills it's really not much more

it's an ego/maturity thing to not prep
Anonymous No.127736118 >>127736226
>>127736089
sorry, i realized the possibly confusing way my post could be interpreted immediately after posting lol.

i meant that the only people who care enough to take the extra step are the ones that end up going pro, not that it was some great filter that's too difficult to overcome for the average person.
Anonymous No.127736166 >>127736192 >>127736194 >>127736289 >>127736546
is there a word for these random musical moments in shows/movies/anime? it's not a bumper (i think)... just like these random phrases that happen to accentuate or punctuate dialog mostly i guess.

https://vocaroo.com/18O3fWbOjZcv

this has been sitting in my downloads waiting to be remade for like 7 months. yes it's a slow day.
zenshuu
Anonymous No.127736192
>>127736166
sorry i messed up a note

https://vocaroo.com/19dbXPxR9rji
Anonymous No.127736194 >>127736289
>>127736166
Your vocaroo got deleted, idk what you're referring to though. Can you link to a YT video or something? is it a "motif" you're thinking of?
airwindows No.127736226 >>127736234 >>127736242 >>127736258 >>127736517 >>127736747
>>127736118
The effort involved vs the payout is probably the highest for DJing is the point im trying to make. Nothing pays more for less effort because the vast vast majority of DJs don't prep shit..even at festivals guys who tour and have been for years are severely under prepared and it's the only thing holding them back

If you get surgical about it you're in a very small crowd
Anonymous No.127736234
>>127736226
when i take that dive i will remember this conversation when i don't feel like doing it lol
airwindows No.127736242 >>127736268 >>127736517
>>127736226
Assuming you're already a musician with maturity of concept and production skills. Musicians becoming DJs is vastly easier than a DJ becoming a musician..km assuming the obscene time required to become a musician has already been met, which is,. obviously, the separator

BUT IF YOUVE DONE THAT
and your NOT DJing
That is cash money in a bag delivered on your doorstep, WEEKLY, for about a months worth of work
Anonymous No.127736258 >>127736304
>>127736226
>effort involved vs the payout is probably the highest for DJing
>Nothing pays more for less effort
Which one is it, Chris?
airwindows No.127736268 >>127736276 >>127736517
>>127736242
Assuming as well you're into dance music, you have the equipment, youre familiar with the styles and common popular DJs, you've been to maybe half a dozen festivals or more. Assuming all that obviously

Obviously I'm assuming a lot, but IF
Anonymous No.127736276
>>127736268
Anonymous No.127736289 >>127736346
>>127736166
>>127736194
If you want to learn about movie/tv music, the best place to learn is the LOTR score. This guy has a series of videos where he explains why they work so well. It's in spanish, so you'll have to do autotranslate to English
https://youtu.be/y5LLHZf9ebU
airwindows No.127736304
>>127736258
You're confusing my ambiguous semantics anon, they are the same it is advised you read them samely

Highest pay for least effort
Nothing pays more for less effort
The ratio between effort invested to prep and payment for that effort is off the charts

ASSUMING the half dozen pre requisites are met

But in comparison to say, getting your tracks to take off, having your rock band get a slot at Coachella, etc, it's quite obscene

The on ramp for a surgical DJ goes from local to Metro to festival very fast
Anonymous No.127736346 >>127736386
>>127736289
huh, thanks
Anonymous No.127736386
>>127736346
Sure. I like to rewatch those videos sometimes before watching the movies just to remind myself how insanely sophisticated the music is and I know what to listen for. I'm sure there are other videos on YT about the scores too, or stuff you can read (it's not exactly a hidden secret that they're good scores), I just remember that guy's videos since he explained it all pretty well
Anonymous No.127736517 >>127736560
>>127736226
>>127736242
>>127736268
Go try getting DJ gigs without being a semi-attractive woman and see how well that goes for you
Anonymous No.127736546 >>127736595
>>127736166
Motif or leitmotif maybe

There's also more specific stuff, might be underscore that you want too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mousing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotting_(filmmaking)
https://filmmusiccentral.com/2016/01/21/film-music-101-underscore/
Anonymous No.127736560
>>127736517
>the reasons to transition just keep piling up
Anonymous No.127736595
>>127736546
ah okay, leitmotif is probably what i'm thinking.
i wasn't paying that close attention on first watch, but iirc that little melody came around certain moods, but it wasn't quite dominant enough to really warrant being called a motif.
i need to go back and do a film major fuckk`
Anonymous No.127736709 >>127736730 >>127736742
what do anons in this thread do with mix bus compression? do you like to crush the entire mix or just a slight gluey compression? im trying out both at the moment and obviously both have their uses depending on what you're trying to do.
Anonymous No.127736730 >>127736744
>>127736709
Whatever the song needs. Shouldn't be treated as some mandatory thing you have to have on, adding more compression just gives you more problems if you don't have a reason to add it
Anonymous No.127736742
>>127736709
I almost never use straight up unless i'm making house or something with a steady dominant kick.
there are times when doing hyper agressive music where i'll at least try crushing it in parallel as an option, but (for me) it's typically inferior to doing that on busses, or opting for parallel saturation at that point instead
Anonymous No.127736744
>>127736730
i agree its not necessary, its more of a stylistic choice. i usually add a slight glue compression just to get things a bit more louder and cohesive but not much else.
Anonymous No.127736745
>>127698904
The only person I need to like my music is me.
Anonymous No.127736747
>>127736226
DJing is like the easiest "professional" thing you can do that is music-related out of EVERYTHING that is out there (mixing, mastering, playing an instrument, recording engineer, marketing, writing lyrics, the list goes on and on). I'm not surprised most guys half-ass it, it's literally the path you take in music when you're a bum.
Anonymous No.127737006 >>127737087
>>127735997
Anyone autistically prepping their DJ set to play in the club should just make a set in ableton live and perform off of that with a laptop. It sounds so pathetic to imagine the kind of person that would burn a pre-recorded DJ set to a usb drive just to pretend to play it on some digital turntables in the club.
Anonymous No.127737087 >>127737097
>>127737006
DJs have been doing that for decades now
Anonymous No.127737097 >>127737247 >>127737285
>>127737087
I meant the prepared burned onto some media

Look into anything Pioneer or Serato, Ableton is the last thing a DJ would probably use
Anonymous No.127737247
>>127737097
just play it from your smartphone bro
airwindows No.127737285
>>127737097
Ableton to slice, prep transitions, let the bangers run through, cook the middle portions and intros, get the whole thing sequenced in Ableton, slice the mixdown load into traktor, just straight mix slices and pretend half your knobs do something during transitions, when,. reallying, they don't

$$$$

Hard to code the vibe though, you need to understand macro and meta scale energy levels as well as how to cook micro mixtures, and every set has a venue and for every venue a set, so while mechanically the knowledge level is rather low, the actual skill is something very subtle and refined, it's quite literally vibe coding
Anonymous No.127737531
>>127735162
Thanks a lot for the detailed and constructive feedback!
Bo en is an influence for sure, great producer and he does video game music too
If you like him you'd probably enjoy the 2 I've mentioned:
https://youtu.be/vdruntTGf0s?si=ED41phT8OQ6MgnSY
https://youtu.be/wVv3LnIrwe0?si=7DnzE8Q9AbYE_dAo

I'll do another pass with your suggestions in mind
Anonymous No.127737951 >>127738273
>>127734494
>Unfortunately FPC isn't gonna cut it for that kind of music. For decent sounding drums you should wait for something like EZ Drummer to go on sale for Black Friday and get one of those bundles which gives you two expansion packs. Or some similar real drum plugin.
Thanks, anon. Honestly I have a friend playing drums so I don't mind working with basic midi when I'm on my own.
I think I tried (pirated) EZ Drummer a few years ago and had no idea what was going on. It would probably be easier to understand now. That being said, there are so many programs that I don't know what's best/easiest: EZ Drummer, Superior Drummer, Addictive Drums, etc.
Anonymous No.127738092 >>127738106
You ever just find a project on your hard drive you have zero memory of making?
Anonymous No.127738106
>>127738092
literally all the time
Anonymous No.127738273 >>127738361
>>127737951
Drum plugins tend to almost be their own mini-DAWs at least as far as EZD and SD are. You'll have to watch tutorials to get the most out of any of them.
I use EZD because I like the workflow of arranging sequences and it's the fastest to get something sounding good. SD has more control and samples/articulations but is much more raw and way more effort to get a good sound out of it.
There should be two week demos of both, I'd watch tutorials before starting one. SD is more expensive for expansions and the base package.

When I was looking to buy a drum plugin, I found the AD kits and expansions didn't match the sound I wanted.
Anonymous No.127738361
>>127738273
Thanks, anon. I'll try my luck with EZD then.
Anonymous No.127738464 >>127738550
the moog sound is the best sound for kicks and otherwise the moog sound isnt that great and i dont like it
Anonymous No.127738550 >>127738668
>>127738464
what do you mean by 'the moog sound'? 24dB/oct ladder filter?
Anonymous No.127738668
>>127738550
idk the moog thing where it is never in the background and will always occupy a lot of space and presence.
Anonymous No.127738843 >>127738876
https://vocaroo.com/19oTVRx6CHUQ
i recorded a cover of a smashing pumpkins song but it's not complete and it was from memory. hows the mix sounding?
Anonymous No.127738876 >>127738890 >>127738958
>>127738843
snare gives me the ick
Anonymous No.127738890
>>127738876
i cant mix drums properly but ill try to fix it
Anonymous No.127738958
>>127738876
>How do you do fellow kids?
Anonymous No.127738979 >>127739070
https://vocaroo.com/14dVrgNeuhPf
Anonymous No.127739070 >>127739219
>>127738979
word
Anonymous No.127739219 >>127739545 >>127739568
>>127739070
https://vocaroo.com/1ox7KujKH9ZP
Anonymous No.127739545
>>127739219
Gonna be a good one.
Anonymous No.127739568
>>127739219
Anonymous No.127739591
https://voca.ro/159zfttfiDOx
Anonymous No.127739633
Bump limit reached
Use this for the next op
Anonymous No.127739818 >>127739838
wtf is a decibel?
Anonymous No.127739838 >>127740050
>>127739818
somethign you do reps with at the gym
Anonymous No.127740050 >>127740059
>>127739838
do u even lift
Anonymous No.127740059 >>127740398
>>127740050
yeah i use decibels
Anonymous No.127740398
i learned something new, you can duplicate and move chunks of points inside the automation editor
>>127740059
peak and pain threshold pilled
Anonymous No.127740700
New thread
>>127739698
>>127739698
>>127739698