Thread 127738665

>SEPTEMBER COMEBACKS
1 ZEROBASEONE https://youtu.be/HnYtDIW7elY TREASURE https://youtu.be/gZNQs3jA7aE MONSTA X https://youtu.be/ykFHzr0oVog NCT WISH https://youtu.be/28dAfmIAlCo ILLIT jp https://youtu.be/HeqsjDF7Lw0 CHAEYOUNG (TWICE) pr https://youtu.be/NlHD4ndO-z0 Songsun (TRI·BE) https://youtu.be/TrM7omAZFho
2 HYOLYN single https://youtu.be/gtC5UgMaRO4 YOUNG POSSE mv https://youtu.be/DmZi8TOLN_I Kickflip pr https://youtu.be/6KksgSzEZvQ Gwangil Jo https://youtu.be/p3Rbo67KtIc GIRLSET mv https://youtu.be/l0JG-eCof1o
3 Kang Daniel https://youtu.be/ySBbP3Bj6dE
4 X:IN https://youtu.be/nIjSn9wu3YY
5 aespa https://youtu.be/5oQVTnq-UKk DAY6 https://youtu.be/-N-pmPKS-bE
8 CORTIS https://youtu.be/42wfEs7oIP8 Haechan (NCT) https://youtu.be/pqMCgfnBx74 CIX https://youtu.be/FbPGxSIc3_g MOMOLAND https://youtu.be/f8mkCg5T2gE
9 ALL(H)OURS https://youtu.be/TJR0VM8jof0 Dayoung (WJSN) https://youtu.be/SJpmNMWboWg Yuqi (i-dle) pr https://youtu.be/yfn7EG7tQpg
10 Wendy (Red Velvet) https://youtu.be/5PS2cJsSJrI
12 CHAEYOUNG (TWICE) https://youtu.be/tl2luF-JRlU UNIS jp https://youtu.be/DrU5bxPcH0s
13 Taemin (SHINee) single https://youtu.be/nt6wyPTEsNk
14 Nana (After School) https://youtu.be/20Hy-Zwy3i4
15 BADVILLAIN
16 Yuqi (i-dle), Soorin
17 tripleS ∞! pr
19 XG
22 Kickflip, JO1, SUHO (EXO)
24 Yerin (GFRIEND)
26 P1Harmony
29 S.Coups X Mingyu (SEVENTEEN)
30 izna
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>>127738659
you can hide shitty dancing with backup dancers and good camerawork aespa has been doing this for years

but you run the risk of getting exposed when the cameraman is not locked in

>>127738670
how did she do that??????????????????????

my god, not winturd spammer again
tired of his mid botched waifu

>>127738672
wrong thread

>>127738670
i just seen that lol i think she's taken over rei as the new tiktok queen

>>127738670
LMAO

>>127738683
i want to cum on her eyebrows

>Chaeyoung - LIL FANTASY vol.1 first impressions

>AVOCADO
Chill track. Mostly whisper singing. Lyrics are sparse. Very contemporary. Like it.
>BAND-AID
Similar in spirit to the last one. Full English. Close your eyes and vibe type track.
>SHOOT (Firecracker)
More upbeat. Disco influences. Basic instrumental and idea but it works.
>GIRL
Really bare-bones, just guitar vocals and drum set. Indie.
>RIBBON (feat. SUMIN, Jibin)
really weird track, has some drill and trap influences. Not sure if i understand the vision here. Awkward track.
>DOWNPOUR (with Kai)
Continues in the spirit of track 1 & 2. Ok. Didnt even notice the Kai feature he mostly mumbles in the background.
>BF
A boyfriend? Omona. Snoozer.
>그림자놀이
I like the samples in this one but vocally it's more of the same.
>내 기타
Cute ballad to end the ep. I think the playing is mostly live. Very wholesome song.

>Overall;
Chill arthoe pop. Clean and modern production. Chaeyoung is credited on all the tracks so I assume most of this is her own creative vision. Feels very personal. Not really "kpop" per se sound-wise it's 90% indie. Not really my style some of the tracks really do blend together, but still a fun project. More kpops should do this instead of just picking whatever soulless demos their company comes up with.

>>127738679
cute leader chan

>>127738670
jawshave angel

There was a brief period in Kpop history when Itzy was a top 3 girl group.

they all fuck dogs
us men are absolutely neglectable in terms of sexual attractiveness

>>127738670
she's so fucking dumb

>Wendy - Cerulean Verge first impressions

>Fireproof
that a capella intro is really cool. Very powerful. After that it transitions into standard swedepop but I don't mind it. Good track.
>Sunkiss
A bit too basic. Safe pop song.
>EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
Menacing all caps title but the song itself is super upbeat. I don't get it. Maybe it makes more sense with lyrics. Fun.
>Hate^2
Another evil title for a upbeat pop track lol idk. This one sounds a bit dated but she's 30 now so I dont blame her still jamming to it. I really like this one.
>Chapter You
Acoustic ballad. Not memorable.
>Believe
A ton of belting and flexing vocals on this one. Impressive. Not sure a lot of idols could replicate that

Overall: Surprised I enjoyed this EP this much. Most of it is basic pop but it works. Track 1 and 4 are my favorites. Saw general opinion on this is pretty negative I don't really get it quality wise it's pretty similar to Wish You Hell imo.

kpop is an evil machine that sucks the life out of people who stumble into its dark alleyways
happy birthday nana

>>127738670
WITCH

>>127738672
>>127738683
love her so much

> Dayoung - gonna love me right? First impressions

>body
I know this song is mostly an excuse for her to show her tummy but it's not bad lol. Verses are very nu-kpop, chorus is Calvin Harris EDM pop kinda? Fine track.
>number one rockstar
Lame track. Her vocals are really weirdly placed.
>marry me
Repetitive and basic.

Overall: The bsides are pretty low quality but body is ok. Added to the playlist

>>127738670
shittiest magician EVER it's obvious where it went

that tiktok is NOT that funny you dont have to act retarded to talk to cbs or whatever

>>127738699
would i enjoy this if i liked wish you hell?

>>127738711
hey take that back

save yourself
is what im telling you
cause nobody else
really has a clue

they say god is real
i disagree
cause if that were true
we would all be free

>>127738689
>>127738699
>>127738708
review key's album

>>127738717
definitely

>>127738520
ok ok
weeekly soojin wouldve been crazy haha but good lol
i was going to ask that too if wendy was done but seemed like not so thats good too!!! aespa only a week so thats good wendy at new cmopany like couple at least
yes i remember that was the tuesday show and i watched int he summer lol all the time
i think im going to sleep irene friend ok thanks for talking and watching the show ok
goodnight!! see you later

the thing normies and newfags are missing is idols have fitness cycles the same way professional athletes do, with whole teams responsible for their preparations. they peak during the few weeks of promos, usually twice a year. any time a group goes to america it's ALWAYS the off cycle, they are nowhere close to performance fitness levels
I understand if you're someone who knows nothing about kpop you wouldn't know that either, but knetz should know this. and every single time they choose to play dumb just to shit on the idols. it really says a lot about the mental state of koreans and the overall condition of their society, it's not in a good way rn

which groups are performing in that rock in japan festival besides ive and illit

>>127738544
hmmm im going to sleep not because U SAID BUT OK GN OK

reportedly there is an unprecedented influx of colored trainees in the big 3

>>127738572
whaaat no didnt see
thats cool concept in car singing lol cool car like eletric??
i think i sleep rei friend ok thanks for talking ok!!
have a good day ok
see you alter!!

fucking 4chan wouldn't post my dub pic along with that knetz post so here it is

>>127738596
;_; i saw that too pretty sad too
did u see this about it too omg
https://x.com/austayc/status/1966872124695740448
totally makes more sense now..............
hope kyu sung makes good music now on too ok
i wonder whata creative differences were too but wont know rly just thinking
do u have any thought on it??? just asking
i think ill sleep tho chingu ok
have a good day ok!!
see you later

kill yourself
is what they said to me
i'm already dead
just differently

>>127738621
NO
maybe
GOODNIGHTG

>>127738732
post niggers here >>127705093

>>127738730
GOO night

learn dinosaur facts with karina!
https://x.com/aespa_official/status/1967143352354369900

goodnight everyone see you all later

Just go to sleep already

had another kpop dream
i was working in berlin (i don't irl) and there was an ifeye concert the same evening so i brought nice clothes to change into
took the subway to the club except the last bit of the way had me walk through some sewers like it was a perfectly normal thing to do, no one seemed to mind, everyone just entered the sewers
there was a narrow catwalk above the sewers but it had no railing and it got really narrow, like a couple of inches narrow, so i dropped down into the sewage and got myself and my nice clothes dirty
i still went on and arrived at the club but everyone kept pointing and laughing at me because i was dirty and stinky, including ifeye

i think the lesson is i'm an abominable sewer creature and this is my place in life, i shouldn't even think of leaving my house and doing something nice, only bad things will happen
:-(

>>127738708
>>127738699
you have really low quality standards
terrible reviews as always

>>127738744
goodnight

>>127738722
i dont listen to gaypop unless i notice a good song on the shows

>>127738726
dancing isn't that taxing, its just some basic cardio and flexibility, its not like they're powerlifting with bulks and cuts and deloads. unless you're talking about skill rust due to breaks or something.

>>127738744
good night from moka

>>127738741
chill it with the racism

>>127738671
There’s a choreographer out there who thinks this move is cool

>>127738757
when was the last time you danced

>>127738737
it wasn't intentional but it was in the air as they say
no new thoughts from me or the fans, we saw the album credits for that past what 3 releases but it still sucks. and it's not even about stayc
gn

>>127738757
what is your real world experience with professional dancing

>>127738744
gn

post hanni tummi

>>127738744
gn sis

>>127738763
uggo

>>127738744
gn

>>127738757
>it's easy
okay dude

>>127738754
can you do this wonhee pic please

anal in the ass with megan skiendiel

>>127738757
>high intensity cardio for hours a day is less exhausting than flailing some weights around
ok buddy

>bulks and cuts and deloads
that's quite literally what they do tho they diet before comebacks then carb load & caffeine overdose before shows

>>127738759
smooch

>>127738762
>>127738766
i have 5 years of experience doing muay thai with running and lifting alongside it

>>127738771
don't be mean to the stegosaurus, karina just said it's her no. 1 for most beautiful dinosaur

>>127738779
so zero and you're talking out of your cute little ass

>>127738734
goodnight sis see you later

>>127738724
wendy next week tooo ok ok glad she gets more shows!!
ooo in the summer makes sense can stay up late every day but now its fall........ at least its not hot anymore lol
ok thanks for watching and talking too! thanks for saying goodnight and see you later!!
goodnight! having a good sleep and good day tomorrow!!

>>127738719
fuck joob crop..

brother needs to do the jellyous choreo while singing the song then report back

>>127738744
gn sis

>>127738743
>>127738763
genius angel

>>127738777
dancing, even to the hyper extent of kpop is not "high intensity cardio", there's no resistance and they're all like 45kg, while being malnourished might make it shitty you can definitely do this almost daily, the way that guy talks about performance dips is bullshit because that doesn't happen even in extreme sports unless its literally a pro fighter dehydrating themselves to near death to make weight, even then they rehydrate and fight a day later sometimes.

SM setting up aespa
I don't blame the girls, they sing live, he just puts on loud af backtrack even during the concerts. And they're confident enough about that retarded decision that everyone has criticized since debut, to send them in America. dumb koreans

>>127738781
you think dancing is more exhausting than fighting and call me cute, not sure what your own was here.

eunbi won an award in mongolia

just had the most insane Moka blast

>>127738788
kpops haven't been singing live for about 15 years? how is aespa different
btw when lsf sang live in coachella the army of plebbit tier newfags who have never once heard live singing in their lifetimes went into nuclear meltdown mode. you can't win

>>127738794
each year we have multiple idols fainting on stage because of the exhaustion

most girls take IV drips with fresh blood during promotions to stay active its an open industry secret

>>127738788
imagine if they had to post their physiques to make these comments

>>127738702
Wasnt that game cancelled after it turned out they were protecting pedos?
Why are kpop groups still collabing with them?

>>127738802
you're aware idols have joint pain and shit due to overdancing?

>>127738805
omo thanks, how did it change her whole pose

>>127738775
>>127738805
can you leave wonhy alone

>>127738806
to what mokas?

>>127738803
most breedable award?

>>127738753
She should go solo why she can

>>127738807
just compare them to their contemporaries ive, newjeans, lsf, nmixx, idle, itzy all sing live like twice as much as aespa does it's really bad

>>127738807
If they're not singing live why are they dancing with 0 energy?

>>127738764
ok ok just asking i know they didnt work together last few i heard maybe because he got married taking a break but yes............
hope they still remain friends if they were
thanks for saying ok byee

I hereby forbid you to do that kind of stuff to Wonhee

>>127738770
lol jelly rly excited about that pop haha goodnight chingu have a good day

>>127738827
because they are not talented?
idols get casted for their looks

>>127738823
she kind of isn't the most solo potential of the group, like she's more shy than the latina and stuff

>>127738810
thats because they starve and dehydrate themselves and thats probably on them and their retarded managers not understanding proper dieting and nutrition. even if you weightcut there is no reason that has to happen.
>>127738814
yeah, and? people break their bones and get concussions in fighting and they don't have massive "performance dips" in their skill unless they literally can't do anything for months, any skill/reflex training is regained very fast unless you quit 100% for years.

>>127738824
I've seen lsf sing live in coachella that's about it. there's no live singing in music shows

>>127738782
omg thats so adorable
i love episode idols with kids so cute
byeee

siyoon vasectomy

>>127738832
I'm glad we're on the same page then

>>127738786
no problem ok thanks for saying too ok
byeee

>>127738830
no hips

>>127738839
I don't think she's qualified to do that

>>127738814
>overdancing
lol

>>127738798
Should've just gone to a Yankee game paid them to play one of their songs and put them on the jumbo tron

>>127738742
>>127738751
>>127738758
>>127738764
>>127738767
>>127738770
>>127738773
>>127738782
>>127738786
>>127738791
thank you guys a lot ok <3 goodnight!!

>>127738828
rado can't afford to lose more friends or he will be left with JYP and bomi
bye go away shoo

>>127738835
>there's no live singing in music shows
many groups sing live on music shows including lsf these days

>>127738832
they don't care about america and wanted to make a statement. plus they're probably just tired

>>127738848
bitch

>>127738849
UR A SHOE bye LOL

>>127738830
we don't do anything like that

>>127738851
>and wanted to make a statement
>they were just pretending to be untalented and lazy

>>127738849
and funny pic lol ok bye frfrrf

>>127738808
post the link. i want to read some more comments

>>127738858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0L8zr3no5Q

>>127738856
that nigga dressed like minecraft steve

>>127738855
there are groups who are better dancers like lsf and itzy, aespa is about average for a kpop group. if that's "untalented" for you, sure

bros, is aespa finished?

>>127738835
im the biggest vocalfag here you're more than welcome to argue with me about semantics

there are different "tiers" of singing in kpop let me summarize it for you


- fully live (no amplification) - think cover livestreams
- fully live (with amplification) - lsf coachella, nmixx tiny desk
- live with quiet backtrack - most vocal centered groups
- live with loud backtrack - 99% of music show performances

--- LIVE BARRIER ---

- lipsync - mouthing the words to the studio version
- live AR - "fake" live with added breaths and stuff


when kpop fans say "they performed live" they mean the "live with loud backtrack" category or below

does that make sense?

>>127738864
yes which is why I said there is no live singing

>>127738868
love wonhee's outfit there

>>127738862
Name a gg worse at performing than aespa. They're not average, they're bottom of the barrel

>>127738856
kek

>>127738863
of course not. they go through embarrassing moments all the time and sm has nobody to replace them yet.

>>127738853
suede shoe hopefully
>>127738857

>>127738873
ive

>>127738873
bp obviously

>>127738871
how old are you

>>127738872
there is no cuter kpop idol, is there?

>>127738873
blackpink

>>127738813
It's a multi billion dollar company and the biggest game platform in the world. Nothing's gonna happen to them, other than maybe regulators coming for their asses, in which case they will just make some changes to comply with new rules.

>>127738883
nope

>>127738879
ive are about the same imo, pretty much average
I don't watch that many nugu groups but I bet there are ones that are way worse

choreos, like everything else in kpop, are an illusion
there is a reason why every kpop MV and fancam has tons of hectic camera movement. look at any wide angle recording of a kpop concert and you will realize the dances look much worse without camera tricks
at concerts they will also distract you with contrast, flashing lights, smoke and pyrotechnics
at a TV show with a camera operator who has no clue about filming kpop and harsh studio lighting you cant hide anything and every kpop group will look bad

>>127738881
43

>>127738879
cope, I dont even like IVE but Yujin alone would bury aespa
>>127738880
>>127738885
BP is at too big to fail level, they dont care cause they dont have to (also not kpop)

>>127738881
87, it reminds me of the dolls at the milk bar

>>127738883
there is

>>127738889
while partly true, good dancers with good stage presence will still look decent with shitty camera work, it's only the frauds that get exposed

you can just acknowledge not every artist has their best day every time, you don't have to act like gigi risks snapping her tibia and tearing her hamstrings right off the bone everytime she twerks. dancing has some weird movements sure but come on bro

>>127738895
ive is worse because they dance just as bad but they're all ugly except yujin

>>127738889
t. I have never watched a dance practice in my life

>>127738889
4 lias

shouldn't there be good live autotune at this point? to where they're singing live but it matches the studio sound better

>>127738906
brutal

>>127738897
ugliest piece of shit

>>127738898
yeah I forgot to add that aespa and blackpink are obviously still much worse than most other groups

>>127738889
holy retard alert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KIuzXYR16Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLjMZJKMOIc

yejibros only now did we realize that sneakers was actually a masterpiece

>>127738895
bp are the only group that I've seen to date with dance practices that are recorded at a slower pace and then sped up. it's really embarrassing if you think about it

>>127738819
i miss this chimp

>>127738907
or they can just sing gooder for cheaper

>>127738873
Blackpink

>>127738911
why is she naked

>>127738902
true but eugene is a man and men are better dancers

>>127738909
>t.

>>127738915
I love it just because of how hard yuna carries the center part, it's textbook

>>127738889
Group fancams and dance practices are popular because they portray choreography without spastic camera pans and flashing lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIbqKt1rwA

my fav type of gaypop at the moment are cuties that seem like they dont have social skills/are autistic

>>127738915
brother we resent you bringing the memory of that song back into our head

>>127738920
she's not

>>127738915
yeah except for the cringe lyrics

>>127738930
poot mah sneakaz awn

>>127738910
>>127738898
>>127738889
so which group is good at dancing

>>127738889
teurutheu nukeu

all this chatter will be rendered moot when karina finally debuts solo and handily obliterates all charts, kpop records, and pop culture at large

>>127738907
it's a hard problem voice tuning is very delicate, most people notice very small aberrations in the sound because our ears are very sensitive for that kinda thing

it has been tried in the past but most live concert audio setups nowadays have reverted to just making the backing track really loud approach

doing it to Wooyeon's armpits...

>>127738934
AGGGGHHHH

>Group fancams and dance practices are popular
>posts a 606k views video
lol

>>127738936
itzy

>>127738889
bro, just go watch a video of a dance practice by NCT or Seventeen

no adult woman can be that little

idols that have caught my eye recently
h2h yuha
h2h jiwoo
illit moka
meovv anna
h1ghkey seoi
kiiikiii sui

>>127738946
we are talking about girl groups here
of course men have to be actually talented and work hard to make it

>>127738916
i think that was pretty common at least a few years ago, gaypops did it a lot

>aespa dances like shit on some yank tv show
>aespajeets try to gaslight kpg about the very concept and difficult technicalities of moving the body

>>127738936
itzy
lsf
gfriend
that's the clear top 3 in any order

Dear God Dubu is so tight

>>127738949
miss paddington

>>127738889
>dance practices
>music show fancams
A well synchronized group can still look good even with a wide angle recording and bad lighting.

>>127738944
>606k is nothing
don't be stupid.
you don't know much about kpop if you think fancams and dance practice aren't popular

>>127738949
i know she got chimplants but how is this anatomically possible they are the size of her head

>>127738889
you need to come over and dance

>>127738794
brother be humble
it's a bad trait to act all confident and experienced about stuff you have no idea about. conversations suffer from it. it's okay to not know everything. you don't have to fill everything with conjecture and cover your insecurities with cheap rhetorical tricks.

>>127738964
my dick is the size of your head shut the fuck up bitch

>>127738944
holy fucking eternal newfag powers have been unlocked by this poster

>>127738863
Everybody flopping

>>127738834
>thats because they starve and dehydrate themselves
also because they sleep 2 hours a day due to schedules being packed

>break their bones and get concussions in fighting
yeah fighting is a different thing i guess even if casually it must be soft, doesn't mean dancing professionally isn't difficult.
dubu and mina i think have permanent pain on their knees
jeongfat had that disk problem stuff surely due to dancing
multiple idols have had problems on their wrists which got them to wear bandages on stage

>>127738911
fucking trashy
take me back

>>127738956
MYkeks unironically trying to claim that dancing is impossible to look good without brap editing like humans didnt dance for fun since the dawn of time
This is the level of mindbreak requires to stan aespa

>>127738959
but is she still tight where it matters? (her spiritual bond with jesus)

>uhh idols don't need to dance well. all kpop dancing sucks
>uhh idols don't need to sing well. all kpop singing sucks
what should idols be doing then if not their jobs

>>127738889
>are an illusion
no it's not and you'd know if you watch any behind the scenes, kpops dance the best for the MV, putting the most energy ever in that time.

so what is considered a good amout of views for music show fancams? im seeing an average of 5-10k views unless they're big groups like IVE, Aespa, etc

>>127738976
posting on onlyfans

>>127738950
>h1ghkey seoi
h1-key seoi but yea
there's just something about her

>>127738974
esl

>>127738940
and also become my wife

>>127738976
singing and dancing is not their job

their job is to attract fans

the most popular idols right now are not particularly great singers or dancers

i don't knowbwhat the fuck is going on i stayed up to just to see what the hours n never see would look like

>>127738976
being cute

aespa are ugly boring trash and this conversation sucks

are rescene going to be ok?

that one winter fancam had over 8 million views because her face in the thumbnail looked INCREDIBLY stupid

>>127738944
600k is a ton for a non-viral fancam. You do realise that MVs have millions of views because they are botted or pajeetfarmed, right?

>>127738948
i wish that was me

>>127738993
no they're on the path of madein

>>127738907
the kpop producer alina smith just posted a video on cleaning up bad vocals, apparently autotune by itself doesn't do that much and she ended up recording basically a backing track like kpop lives even in the studio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CurdgoLpgpM&ab_channel=AlinaSmith

>>127738987
>their job is to attract fans
singing and dancing attracts fans. i dropped twice especially because i wouldn't see myself pay 500€ to see untalented idols who hate their job

>>127738976
>what should idols be doing then if not their jobs
be hot

>their job is to attract fans
their job is to make money for the company. what brings the most money is concerts
many people care about performance during that time

>>127738954
men are great at the physical aspect, obviously
women bring something entirely different to it, which is amazing

rhythmic gymnastics is women-only and it's beautiful.
men COULD be "better" at it (faster moves or whatever) but no one want to see that shit.

women bring beautiful fluidity and movement and a sensuality that men just don't have
if you can't see that, I feel bad for you

>>127739003
>singing and dancing attracts fans

Aespa GMA performance...

>>127738996
I mean I'm saving them all but still - EWwww

>>127738885
>>127738910
blackpink never presented themselves as a "perfect" idol group to begin with, who gives a fuck if they're out of sync

>>127739003
>singing and dancing attracts fans

see you dont actually care about singing i doubt you can even tell what is live and what is not, you want to FEEL like the girls you like are talented

it's all smoke and mirrors and marketing

most idols have pretty similar stat points

>>127739009
>sensuality that men just don't have
so true men can't into sensuality for most. tragic!

>>127739002
we need AI powered live vocal cleanup

>>127739008
>what brings the most money is concerts
10 years ago maybe
the big kpop groups make the most money with brand endorsements and social media, its the blackpink model

>>127738693
Wish my waifus would do this

>>127739014
right cause lsf didn't get majorly cancelled because they couldn't sing live
twice lived the same
both groups fell off a lot after these scandals

their job is to make cute faces

>>127738911
kpop got away from this slutty stuff and experienced amazing growth, are they really going to go this degenerate route??

>>127739019
Dr.Kim needs to saw off at least half of that gigajaw

>>127738972
>yeah they are sleepdeprived and malnourished all the time, but its the dancing that causes it dude
i never even said it wasn't hard, just that there is no reason to have some kind of cyclical "performance dip", which doesn't happen among much more extreme activities as long as there is no obviously retarded practices like the ones you just mentioned. i know that there is impact on the shins feet and joints in dancing and bad hyperextensions, but people are resorting to using fat bitches and starved 14 year olds as proof that its an inevitable predictability aespa just randomly forgets how to dance?

>>127739020
blackpink is an anomaly because they blew up in the west and SEA

the biggest groups right now (aespa lsf ive) still make most of their money from touring pretty sure
and merch

>>127738980
there are tons of fancams with tens of millions of views. search for "idolname fancam" and sort by view count

>>127739028
Nobody cares about 30+ hags doing trashy things, in fact its the only thing left for them to do unless their name is IU

>>127739028
BP is the biggest group and have always been slut concepts. Now it will be katseye

>>127739027
THIS being cute is all that matters

>>127738835
what about show encores
not sure but i think dreamcatcher sing/sang live a lot of the time, at kcon germany they didn't even seem to have much backing track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTkzVY1mlV4

>>127739027
chuu's job is additionally to fondle, flirt with, smooch other female artists

>>127739040
>>127739039
ugh oh

>>127739033
sponsor deals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerts although I don't actually know how much of that goes back to the company. I expect idols get a bigger cut of endorsements than concerts revenue

>>127739042
>>127739027
why are you posting ugly creatures then

>>127739039
this is fucking revolting

Favorite winter fancam
https://youtu.be/lQ2FIaPGVKY?si=ufvNJ8j6guGWF0SZ

>>127739017
at that point you might as well just play the studio mp3 with someone else singing kek

>>127739035
mmm yeah wony had a really good one I might just watch that again mmm

>>127739026
in both cases a paid-for media campaign and mass hysteria from gook bugs haters massively contributed to the outrage

of course if they hadnt had a shitty encore the outrage would have never happened but still, kpop fans dont give a fuck about vocals its just a vessel for fanwar bullshit

>>127739043
those used to be live a lot of the time yeah, might still be the case, I haven't watched any

>>127739039
AMCs the Walking Dead

>ugly creatures
ive...

>>127739042
manvoices are never cute. it's the exact opposite of cute

>>127739044
imagine how a girl would feel receiving eye contact cunnilingus from chuu

>>127739041
Katseye is going nowhere, they're awful and just being pushed because they're DEI the group

destroying my dick to Dayeon daily

>>127739047
don't be a coward, big guy. post your own waifu being cuter

>>127739014
not many groups can sing like NMIXX and RV
sure there's marketing and lighting and flashy shows

it's entertainment, not the fucking World Track and Field Championships

>>127739051
damn she must have been in a rejuvenation chamber for weeks after that performance

>>127739063
the voices in your head?

>>127739041
>Now it will be katseye

Global Streams Sept 02, 2025
Blackpink....................15,513,991,054
TWICE........................10,694,536,130
NewJeans.....................6,647,341,517
Le Sserafim...................4,654,863,324
Aespa............................4,406,423,471
I-dle................................4,226,184,158
Red Velvet......................3,906,128,598
Itzy..................................3,114,607,428
Ive...................................2,949,585,996
FiftyFifty...........................1,575,648,994
Mamamoo.......................1,572,671,736
Babymonster...................1,539,885,620
AOA.................................1,535,288,914
Illit....................................1,339,376,904
SNSD...............................1,248,672,208
>Katseye..........................1,225,101,442