Thread 128000590

Nightfall edition
Candlemass - At The Gallows End https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IDNY2mvnDc

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>Is [genre/band/album] fit for /trad/?
If you have to ask this, it probably isn’t and you should take what you want to talk about somewhere else.
>When will charts be added to the OP?
Once we finish all of the main 1980s charts and move onto the '90s.

USEFUL LINKS
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1luaLZfavSeXui9RkO1PZ3U5gAE1XHfkH?usp=drive_link - Giant archive of old metal & rock magazines.
https://www.metal-archives.com/ - Search for your favorite bands and look under the “similar artists” tab.
https://en.metal-tracker.com/ - Bittorrent tracker from Russia, in order to use it you need to have a registered account.
https://rateyourmusic.com/ - Search for albums, charts and lists here. (Some early trad albums have metal as a secondary rather than primary; so when looking for music from the early-mid ‘70s make sure you include heavy metal as a secondary in your filter as well.)
https://www.slsknet.org/news/node/1 - P2P application for downloading albums. It is your best friend.

Vote for the next album here: https://strawpoll.com/wby5Q3KGKyA
Previous thread: >>127897759

(Reposting because previous version of this thread was DOA)
The 1986 chart is still in progress. If you missed out (or want to suggest something else), reply to this post with what albums you want included. Here is the criteria:
1 Vote = Put on the list.
2 Votes = Put on the list and has a higher chance of being included.
3+ Votes = Guaranteed to be on the chart.

YOU'RE A DEMON'S
YOU'RE A DEMON'S
YOU'RE A DEMON'S
DESIRE

>>128000789
I FUCKING LOVE THAT SONG
>HE'S A VIRGIN KILLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTS4V_YFBgY Main riff hits like a fuckin freight train

What do you guys think of this album? I'm always conflicted by it because while it has some really good material like the title track and Rage, it also has one very clear flop with Out on the Streets and a few other songs that just aren't on the same level as the highs.

DR. STEIN GROWS FUNNY CREATURES
LETS THEM RUN INTO THE NIGHT
THEY BECOME GREAT ROCK MUSICIANS
AND THEIR TIME IS RIGHT

(still far better than Rise and Fall)

>>128000606
>1986
I’ll sing its praises till I’m dead.

why is /trad/ separate from /metal/

blasterinos

>>128007437
Because /meal/ sucks ass

Witch - Seer https://youtu.be/3w9hAhS93qg?si=ktEDU4VBy8xdUwr8

>>128003324
Pretty good debut desu

>>128007458
Blasting some cirith before I go out to dinner

>>128009521
Listening, I've put off Cirith Ungol for too long. It slaps. Sounds like a way angrier Rainbow to me.

>>128010778
Their entire ‘80s run is incredible, check out Frost and Fire next

They can play their instruments really well, but the vocals are just not powerful enough for power/thrash. Songwriting is also quite hit and miss too, with nearly all of the choruses on this record just sounding bizarre or even unfinished; like there's a melody that should be there but isn't.

>>128007458
Has been on my radar for a while but never gave it a shot, but now that I'm playing some classic shooters again it's time to bust out the thrash

>>128012435
Abhorrent actions. he better be okay

>>128012453
>>Abhorrent actions. he better be okay
no it's just a toy and the cat studied theater

>>128012483
>it's just a toy
that's what they all say

>>128007437
grandpas need their own circlejerk kek

>>128012494
because it's true https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1759968060493145.webm

Have a good night tradbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeXAMEqXC3Y

Listened to these four albums during work last night.
Helloween was very good.
Glenn Hughes was basically a continuation of Black Country Communion, also very good.
Alice Cooper sounded like 70s Alice Cooper, very good. Best production of the four too.
Volbeat was good, but the production was bad for being a 2025 album.
>>128007437
Death and black metal fucking sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkD_-OGdMZk&list=PLFfJEoBwaLaLMCEaDMHu029Qs_W1xMIZv

bump

>>128015602
Death metal is good

>>128007437
/metal/ is so autistic that they probably wouldn't consider half this stuff metal

Is BOC /trad/?

>>128018327
please tell me you do realize that
>not metal
is just shitposting and you didn't actually get bullied out of /metal/

>>128018373
Yes

>>128018385
NTA but I made this general because of how much shitposting goes on in those threads. A little is all fine and good, but it gets to the point where it drowns out actual discussion that could be had; trad or not

https://youtu.be/93v0TVi26I8?t=83
https://youtu.be/9HZ_tx8aWuA?t=240

>>128019492
'sup negru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_sxy2VqwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogHImt8G9o

>>128019510

Good evening, my heavy metal enthusiasts!

Did you notice the similarity of those two riffs from my earlier post?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdxwBNm9zU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEMaOp8qdg8

Also these songs sound similar stylistically.

>>128015602
>Death and black metal fucking sucks.
ORBITAL TRVTHNUKE

>>128005136
I don't get those "funny" Helloween songs. Wtf were they thinking.

Tbh it would have been great if they would have rerecorded the whole Helloween EP with Kiske. But maybe he would have sounded weird on Starlight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULyBqg-fyc8

>>128019529
>Did you notice the similarity of those two riffs from my earlier post?
I didn't, sorry. Now that I'm listening to the two side-by-side, they're similar but Running Wild's is faster and sounds cooler imo.
>Silver Mountain
Fuck, I think I actually have their debut album in my library. I'll go give it a shot and report back when I'm done

>>128003324
I almost didn't recognize it because of the different cover.

SIRENS
SIRENS
HUNGRY FOR COCK TONIGHT

Tbh the first 3 tracks are all I remember. Yeah I know, nothing worth mentioning, but you did ask what we thought of it.

>>128019590
That's kind of where I stand, although I remember some riffs here and there from the B-side
>SIRENS
>SIRENS
>HUNGRY FOR COCK TONIGHT
lol'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWfuqMvreiE

I'm actually amazed this came out in 1984. It sounds badass and beats stuff long after it. Anything more like this? (80s power metal) I'm open to suggestions.

>>128019695
>that opening riff
This song's fucking amazing. I don't know of an awful lot like this, but picrel might be what you're looking for

>>128019723
Saved, thanks. And time to turn the trip off. No real point to it.

>>128019747
I'd also recommend you check this album out too, I listened to it a while back and it's a real hidden gem of USPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gdstWV873Q

Here's a question though. Metal peaked around 2008. Since then I haven't heard anything that amazing or groundbreaking. Up until then new genres and styles were being invented, with folk metal being the last. In the 80s the boundary was constantly being pushed, 90s and early 00s brought some gems. The difference between 1982 and 1986 in metal was huge. Since 2008 metal has been pretty ossified. In fact the "traditional metal" sound hasn't changed much since 1985. "Djent" doesn't have any appeal to me. What did I miss in the entire decade of the 2010s? And I don't mean individual albums, but major movements, innovation.

>>128019723
This is actually pretty good. It convinced me with the first neoclassical lead. The riffing is chunky. And the rhythms have a proggy quality to them.

>>128019723
Refreshing to find a Las Vegas metal band that isn't death or metalcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6bDXDNoy2g

This is like comfort food to me. Good old 1981 heavy metal with chunky chuggy riffs.

>>128019836
>What did I miss in the entire decade of the 2010s? And I don't mean individual albums, but major movements, innovation.
In terms of trad? Nothing really, that ship's long since sailed. Though there are occasionally new bands that break through and make something semi-unique (never to the point of making something brand new however, you'd need to go to the REALLY out there genres in order to get something like that).

>>128019934
Comfort food is late '70s Scorpions & Judas Priest desu, I can listen to anything from those albums at any time and just get a giant smile on my face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GgQCaGgmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN59cDMRDZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R0IAul4yIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGaZ7RIF4AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oESFvqpmuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j26nzt9YfWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJbqAi7eRek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7_MOyw1Gmk

>>128020013
Good stuff. I don't know why Screaming For Vengeance is so praised, the previous late 70s-early 80s Priest beats it for me

>>128019695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvcbhqAKx1A
reminds me a bit of Omen

Alright, here's one that was ahead of its time: Weapon (1980)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8di9L2TqmJM

>>128020041
>I don't know why Screaming For Vengeance is so praised, the previous late 70s-early 80s Priest beats it for me
That's when the band was at their commercial peak, so it's the period that's looked back on the most fondly. And it's a shame, because that run from SwoD to Unleashed is where all of the real good shit is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQyI-JTkRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaiW6FNgdRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5HPyjhq3ao

>>128020125
This sounds like something from the mid-80s, holy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHTqpG9f6k

Wow, I had no idea Bradley Hall joined this band. Awesome!

>>128020346

Meant to post here actually:

https://youtu.be/9yHTqpG9f6k?t=226

>>128020358
>that fucking solo

>>128020156
>>128020013

It seems you have a real liking for the "hard rockin'" songs, while I prefer the more speed metalish ones from Priest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esDkLrZm0jU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15xlMohu9os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXJtz1TgmIM

>>128020414
Oh I didn't post those because they're more obvious hits lol. My favorite Priest song is Exciter. :P

>>128020423
Ah, well mission accomplished then. I often overlook those songs.

Off of the top of my head, some of my favorite Priest songs are:

Exciter
Dreamer Deceiver (two-way tie between Exciter, depends on mood honestly)
Sinner
Delivering the Goods
Beyond the Realms of Death
Diamonds & Rust
Starbreaker
Metal Meltdown
Heroes End
White Heat, Red Hot
Saints in Hell
Deceiver
Hell Bent for Leather
Electric Eye
Freewheel Burning
The Sentinel

Throw in the live versions of Victim of Changes & Genocide too

>>128020484
Tyrant is proto speed metal

https://youtu.be/xyww5oVfOuc?t=15

>>128020509
I'd sooner call it proto-power metal honestly, particularly the chorus and the vocal harmonies there

https://youtu.be/sImZRQV8Ynw?t=30

This is solid heavy metal, no one can argue with that.

>>128020559
Production sounds a bit processed for my tastes but the song outside of that is really good ('specially that part you timestamped, sexy lead playing right there)

>>128020603
Rawer production has its charm but I think good production is just good production (plus this song is 23 years old), things should be clear so you can hear them, and guitars should have enough overdrive.

Does Blind Guardian mean a guardian that is blind, or a guardian of the blind?

>>128020717
True. And I don't think it's outright "bad" mind you, I just prefer a rawer style like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rpVmUKFIwg

https://youtu.be/hvoStFJFTb8?t=58
https://youtu.be/wsuj2uhGBvY?t=57

Remember when Iron Maiden was a doom metal band? kek.

>>128020863
Remember Tomorrow really isn't that doomy, has a few moments but sounds more psychedelic
Children of the Damned is just plain ol' heavy metal

>>128020926
Both of those riffs sound to me like this. A sad, hopeless kind of sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyEUk1ZJLn4

Maybe the Maiden songs are a bit too fast though.

>>128020954
I hear the resemblance but the Maiden songs are much less heavy than Electric Funeral and prioritize a more "epic" atmosphere over anything doomy
>are a bit too fast though.
also this

Blind Guardian
Falconer
Symphony X
HammerFall
Kai Hansen Helloween, Gamma Ray
Rhapsody
Running Wild
Demons & Wizards
Iced Earth
Black Sabbath
Judas Priest
Accept
Iron Maiden
Omen
Helstar
Holocaust
Metallica
Diamond Head
Silver Mountain
Yngwie Malmsteen
Satan
Weapon

>>128021060
Is this just meant to be bands you listened to recently?

>>128021075
Bands I like

>>128021184
It's missing Metal Church but otherwise you got good taste. Mine would be something like

Judas Priest
Scorpions
Deep Purple
Rainbow
Black Sabbath
Manilla Road
Metal Church
Fates Warning
Queensryche
Helstar
Sepultura
Slayer
Lizzy Borden
Saint Vitus

>>128020863
>>128020926
Remember Tomorrow is a heavy metal semi-ballad with ~classic rock influences, Children of the Damned is just plain heavy metal. Sabbath-like influence does not make something "doom metal", it's doom metal that was influenced by Sabbath rather than the other way round

>>128021333
Explained it better than I did lol

>>128021333
I was stretching the definition for humor but the Remember Tomorrow riff is pretty much the same notes as the Electric Funeral one

Started an album, am I the only one that thinks this guy sounds like a more melodic Mark Shelton?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAzTVJeFzaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G9w9cb5p64
https://youtu.be/RSSmwXy98IY?t=7

>>128021501
I hear it. Also nice guitar sound. Good stuff!

>>128021591
I'm on track 2 and this is some really good shit dude, the vocal harmonies in Beyond the Mountain's chorus are pure ear candy

https://youtu.be/qa3UOVsP6ro?t=557

This guitar riff sounds like Crazy Train

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V87quS106N4

How is this different from hair metal? Also damn that is a good guitar tone.

>>128022141
>How is this different from hair metal?
I've always thought it *is* a hair metal song. Aside from the rawer production (Crue's first album alone proves glam doesn't necessarily have to have a sugary production in order to be glam) it has all of the hallmarks.

If you like early Queensryche this is a must-listen, even if there's a few lesser songs the highs are still really fucking good

>>128022325
>Lyrical themes: Christianity

:\

>>128022352
I don't pay attention to lyrics unless they're incredibly good or incredibly bad, I didn't hear anything that sounded like overly preachy nonsense (see, Recon's debut) while listening to it

What's the deal with Angel Dust and Rage? Never listened to those bands much. Also Rage - Trapped!'s album cover reminds me of Sarah Kerrigan.

>>128022390
Angel Dust's first two records are kino, that debut is one of the best speed/thrash albums you can find
Not familiar with Rage outside of their debut, but that album I remember being very good

>>128022383
I started paying attention to Running Wild's lyrics more lately, and they're really good. Especially the lyrics to Treasure Island, everything is lifted from the book.

>>128022422
Sounds pretty cool, maybe I'll pay more attention to them when I check out another RW record

>>128020539

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGuHKMdzzs

Priest's most power metal song, at least lyrically, imo. Just listen to those lyrics.

Let me hear the battle cry
Calling on the wind
Let me see the banners fly
Before the storm begins

Let me feel the spirits soar
Destroy the enemy
Striking at the evil core
For all the world to see

This day will last forever
Deep in the hearts of men
Courage and victory
Remember, remember

One Shot At Glory
In the crossfire overhead
Fate stands before me
Words have all been said

One Shot At Glory
Driving hard and seeing red
Destiny calls me
One night of fire
One Shot At Glory

Fighting on with dignity
In life and death we deal
The power and the majesty
Amidst the blood and steel

I still hear the battle cry
The call goes on and on
I still see the banners fly
The battle's always won

>>128022454
I fail to see how that song just isn't EUPM proper, it has every trademark of the genre that I can think of and (outside of the production) it sounds like it'd be on a Blind Guardian album

GO! DON'T BE LATE
FIRST ONE OUT OF THE STARTING GATE
RUN! MAKE THE GRADE
SCHOOL'S A JOB, BUT YOU DON'T GET PAID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhFi1ztNjDg

>>128022678
Having a job is a million times worse than school. At least mine is. Also, that was a good music video.

This video is also relatable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GadSyHS6ow

>>128022454
How come Priest successfully updated their sound with elements of thrash and Euro speed metal with Painkiller but then when they tried the same thing with AOR and glam metal with Turbo and Ram It Down it was mediocre, and then when they tried it with groove metal and nu-metal on the RIpper Owens albums it was a trainwreck?

>>128023120
Painkiller was made with the sole purpose of being proving that JP weren't dead in the water and could still make good shit
Whereas those other albums are chasing industry trends
>but then when they tried the same thing with AOR and glam metal with Turbo and Ram It Down it was mediocre
By all intents and purposes, Turbo was a good idea. JP had plenty of rocking, glammy songs in their early '80s output but they fumbled by not making the songs on Turbo memorable. They're catchy, but outside of like 2 songs the entire record just goes by like a short gust of wind

>>128023176
*of proving that

>>128023120
>when they tried it with groove metal and nu-metal on the RIpper Owens albums it was a trainwreck?
But it wasn't, it was dope.

Loved it. There's some filler but I don't really give a shit when the record's this fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGaKybfReUM

>>128021060
Check out Lost Horizon, bro.

>>128022454
Saw them in June and so glad they played this. Really amazing setlist overall. Only songs I really missed were The Sentinel and Beyond the Realms of Death.

>use the most earsplitting falsetto on a quiet, reflective ballad
>you can hear the audio tracks being switched throughout the fucking song

Listen to the first song, admire the incredibly raw guitar tone (it's like Let There Be Rock but on steroids) then disregard the rest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-CEI8JUUhw

Bookended by two of their greatest songs, the rest of the record's damn good too
Shocked a band THIS fucking old made an album as solid as this, going to listen to the followup right now

>>128020761
Considering they have a song with exactly the latter as the title (on Battalions of Fear), I assume it's that.

If any of you haven't listened to this yet, make this the next record you check out - it's almost King of the Dead tier

Goodnight tradbros, have some sexy swedish steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPCke48fwlk

>>128021444
While the notes themselves do sound similar, Electric Funeral is overall way more blues-y, has extra reverb, an overall heavier sound, and the tone shifts between somewhat ominous and more traditionally "rocking" for lack of a better word, while Remember Tomorrow is mostly melancholic-introspective with some more dynamic and even slightly epic parts
>>128022141
It is a glam (hair, whatever) metal song
>>128023176
Speed metal is good and compatible with Priest's sound (it's basically fast, high-pitched (especially in terms of vocals) heavy metal, and they've made fast songs in the past, with Halford's vocals being definitely suited for the style). I wouldn't call it thrash. I also don't remember Ram It Down being that glammy (or that bad) to be put in the same category as Turbo
>>128022499
It's heavy/speed metal. Maybe with a more epic feel, which might actually bring it closer to USPM. I don't think it sounds like Blind Guardian (of course it's not worlds apart either). Something about the general atmosphere/feel maybe, I can't put my finger on it, but it lacks the more... otherworldly? feel of EUPM

The screaming in this song always makes me laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvfqw68nDH8

>>128000606
What’s with the Turbo hate boner? It’s a better album than Somewhere in Time and I prefer it to Defenders of the Faith.

>>128028309
>YOU'VE GOT THE KEY
>THE KEY TO MY HEEAAAART
If you're driving and listening to Locked In, as soon as that intro riff kicks in you're legally forced to put the pedal to the metal.

>>128019492
Negru the Nigger Slayer! Good to see you again man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckF95WdOyIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9uy4Ip5Zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uESNlNqVqC0

>>128028309
I don't think it's bad outside of a few songs but I'd be lying if I said it's as good as DotF. (Well, the A side anyways. Turbo Lover and DotF's B side may as well be identical to me in terms of quality.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev2H5gTqUt4
Sovl

>>128031965
The fuck is with that filter applied to the vocals? I'm listening to some of the first track and it sounds like the thing psych rock bands do

>>128032055
I mean this seriously, have sex.

>>128032077
Impossible task

I LIKE LETHAL. This guy went to Geoff Tate 80s school of singing and passed with an A++:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKvWOhEA24

>>128032159
You could say this was Geoff Tate and I'd believe you without question
Really good stuff right here

>>128032215
Their other albums aren't as good unfortunately. The 'Programmed' album is awesome though. No bad songs, bit like Mindcrime and can tell it was a big influence on them.

>>128032257
>Their other albums aren't as good unfortunately.
Sucks, but at least they have a killer debut. I'll add it to my library and check it out soon.

>>128032277
It's one of the best. Tom Mallicoat is the singer. Probably more of him on Youtube, but this is very Geoff Tate also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefGIcX2QNs

>>128032342
This guy's vocals man. The song outside of them is still very good but that performance sells it.

>>128031965
One of the most disappointing concerts I've seen was MSG with Robin McAuley on vocals. Robin McAuley still sings like a god, but they played ZERO songs from the McAuley Schenker Group era, which is my Schenker favourite albums.

>>128032392
Yes, awesome singer. It weirded me out abit when I first saw the live stuff on Youtube. I was expecting him to look like Geoff Tate also lol.

>>128032393
MSG was pretty good in Wacken this year. Not an expert on his stuff, but like the new singer also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2H_9AT5ss

>>128032437
Fuck it, I'll just go listen to the album right now. Got nothing else to do today. :P

>>128032465
It's a great album!
Diggy Diggy Hole just came on my Youtube algorithm. Good song also lol.

>>128032503
On the first song, it's incredible. The production is punchy, everything is audible, Tom's singing is on another level... I should've checked this out sooner. It's like the lost '80s Queensryche album.

>>128032534
Yes, no bad songs at all on it I think. It's rare for any album to be like that. I first heard it from an anon on /meal/ well over a year or two ago. I wouldn't have known about it otherwise myself. Good 80s metal needs more exposure for sure. I'm of the opinion that some bad actors want only crap music for the masses, in order to 'dumb humanity down', cause they probably feel betrayed by the 'system' for liking grunge or something, and grunge died and 80s hair metal never did. That's my theory anyways lol.

As I said before, this is pretty much the "lost" classic Queensryche album; and it sits somewhere between The Warning and Operation: Mindcrime stylistically. The songwriting across the board is really good and so is the production (very meaty, everything is clearly audible and sounds pleasant), but the real star of the show is Tom's singing. Essentially Geoff Tate 2.0 in approach, but he does it flawlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gikKGAU3q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuQIxqcBW1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKvWOhEA24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWj_h7XY27g

CHRISTIAN AI METAL. (although my supportive comment got deleted, so they're maybe dog nutters or it's dogtube that did it lol :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYHlevHjeZI

I don't get /meals/ obsession with diapers for some 80s bands and singers like King Diamond and Mercyful Fate. Alot of bad actors in there I think. King and Mercy 2 of the best bands ever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJH0eBtnbcs

>>128032100
Never say die!

>>128033167
Thoughts on AI metal?

>>128033590
IRON EAGLE :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPEPsjxGT4
>>128033601
I love it personally. I dunno why people hate it. Just narrow mindedness I guess:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-zeXLpy_r4

POWER OF THE NIGHT! Dogs nowadays are worse than crites though, unironically...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zmcV0pIKKg

KINO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF2ERKA2WZ8

https://youtu.be/aoZDyGpB0_E?t=32

That is one catchy riff.

>>128028630
Based stuff

>>128027543
>>128022499
It doesn't sound like Blind Guardian, but it does sound like HammerFall. In fact I'm surprised they haven't covered it.

>>128028630
That Skull Fist sounds awesome

>>128034388
You want a REALLY catchy riff from that album? This one (alongside a few others) plays in my head at random.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHHXLlChOgU

>>128035177
Reminds me of Rush - Working Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZqkaP37po

how do I tell if metal is traditional or not

>>128035573
If it pulls clear inspiration and has sonic similarities with the original bands (Black Sabbath, Deep Purple & Judas Priest are the ones I typically go by) then it's rooted in trad.

>>128035573
If it has normal singing instead of retarded growling.

>>128035591
This too

Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt 1 is so much better than Pt 2.

>>128035665
They're pretty comparable imo, but I'd say I like Pt. II slightly more.

luv songs about rome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chr-qVt2Xrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qzWCtRknPc

>>128035665
Wrong. Part I is a 9/10. Part II is a 10/10.

Peace out bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=607WZmRxY1U

FIX THIS ALBUM

>>128038962
no question

>open /mu/ for the first time in months
>see a thread named /trad/
>"oh sweet, they finally stopped only caring about pop trash and finally give a fuck about music from all around the world"
>/trad/ ...... Traditional Metal
I hate you fucking retards

>>128039211
The only traditional music that matters are Scandinavian and British/Irish.

>>128039343
you're a midwit

>>128039211
>>open /mu/ for the first time in months
Pretty much same. And I've been saying for a long time that /metal/ is the worst containment thread on this entire site. But that pastebin in the OP is the most autistic thing I've read in a while.

>>128038962
Roughly equal amounts hard rock and heavy metal

>>128039790
>But that pastebin in the OP is the most autistic thing I've read in a while.
It works

What do we think of nu-Maiden? IMO Brave New World and Book of Souls were great, Senjutsu was boring, and the other 3 were pretty decent.

>>128042092
From the little I've heard (so like, two songs off Senjutsu) I don't like it personally
I'm also not a hardcore Maiden fan either, prefer Priest

>>128035783
>>128036347

But part 2 has those stinkers like Rise and Fall and Dr. Stein.

What's some good Scorpions stuff? Is it even metal? All I know from them is Sails of Charon.

>>128041302

https://youtu.be/nJYdDmUvgok?t=41

I'd say it's pretty metal

>>128042654
>What's some good Scorpions stuff?
Their run of albums from 75-82, particularly Taken by Force, Tokyo Tapes (live album), and Blackout
>Is it even metal?
About as metal as JP was in the '70s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4He3RujXEk

This is peak metal. Metal with a brain. This band should have been more popular.

>>128043309
Sounds pretty fucking cool but I wouldn't call it peak metal, something like this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2mFFrcYJL0

>>128043494
This is a dark ballad.

>>128043504
Yes, and it's really fucking good

>>128043513
Listen to all of the song I posted though, it gets more interesting

>>128043524
I did, the song started off a tad schizophrenic (though that's probably my inexperience with prog metal talking) but right around the 2:30 mark it became much better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GFI6Rf-IkI

>>128043544
It's just a standard speed metal riff with some flourishes

>>128043660
That song's not trad or even really metal
>with some flourishes
True, the more I listen to that section of the Symphony X song the more it's growing on me

Goddamn it now I want to listen to prog

OP here, I think the boundaries with thrash metal are so blurry that we should just accept it all unless it's congruent with death or black metal (shit like Bathory, early Sodom, Possessed and early Sepultura). What do you guys think?

>>128042631
>Dr. Stein
>stinker
It's a great song. Probably the best example of cheerful German power metal with foundations in volksmusic and schlager

>>128043498
Listening to this and the original side by side made me realize I miss reverb on modern vocal production.

>>128007437
just go look at one of their threads and you'll understand why

Enjoying a couple DP songs while I organize my files
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_6e-zRF_hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_sjiqvIrc

wtf were they thinking?

>>128045189
>wtf were they thinking?
They weren't. This is the shit a late-stage glam band would have for their second, sleazier record; not an established power/thrash band

>>128045189
Looks like they were reading 2000 AD comics. Sometimes it's better to not take inspiration from what you like.

>>128045330
To me this is more similar to the MC album. I can't remember exactly who the artist for this is, but I do know that there's a Skid Row shirt from the early '90s that's the same style as picrel.

>>128000590 (OP)
is nu metal trad metal?

i wonder if the baby he raped knows about it. they'd be what, in their teens by now?

>>128047838
I'm listening to the first song right now, and this is shockingly good. Was expecting something more similar to Motley Crue but this is more along the lines of Warrior and Malice.

Just finished the album, very solid melodic metal that occasionally veers into USPM territory. Good stuff!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_xBfpSnvFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX9TnHZjK38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyTXbZzACeg

Have a nice night bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRYSlLLU0RE

I GET SO BORED
GOING NOWHERE
PISSED OFF WITH LIFE

>>128048410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty9Tx4KggdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdN52HxwKS4

Sup fags. Is it Candlemass time?

>>128051219
No. It's HEADLESS CROSS time!

Is Stone Cold Crazy(queen) a metal-lite song? I’d argue it’s not all that far off all things considered.

>>128052915
Yeah, I’d say it’s a pretty metallic song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2h9GTASjCY

Is this speed metal? I actually prefer this to any nwobhm.

>>128053531
Has undertones of it but no, not fast enough + no DB drumming (that I can hear)

>>128053543
I disagree. It's as fast as "speed metal" like Exciter. And it has the classic speed metal pedal tone riffs.

>>128054029
>it's as fast as "speed metal" like Exciter.
Disagreed. I'm listening to both songs right now and the riffing in Exciter is quite a bit faster than the Sabbath song.
>And it has the classic speed metal pedal tone riffs.
It does sound similar, yeah. But Neon Knights just isn't as aggressive. (And I wish I was more familiar with guitars so I'd know whatever the fuck a "pedal tone" is lol.)
Exciter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tlEa0rDZbM
Neon Knights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjpLjSbQzns

>>128045189
Good album, though.

>>128054820
It's the only classic Metal Church album I haven't gotten to yet. And I'm sure you can imagine why I've been hesitant.

>>128054862
Yeah, that album cover pretty much lead to the end of the band in mid-90s. But the music is actually good, and if you liked the first two with Howe, you'll probably like this too.

>>128055840
>and if you liked the first two with Howe, you'll probably like this too.
I have heard that HitB is their most experimental classic album, so I am pretty interested in hearing what they did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU2v7CxJTks
the good classic shit

Bros, fucking listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8V1aa79hDM

>>128057657
fucking banger, i need to check out those guys
japs have some incredible bands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIqOEjn7t1U

>>128057746
>fucking banger, i need to check out those guys
You really fucking do, Anthem has some incredible shit
>japs have some incredible bands
If you haven't already, give Mari Hamada's first two albums + SHOW YA - Outerlimits a shot

The best Anthem album I have heard to date. Every song here is worth listening to, and the A-side is some of the absolute best trad from the late '80s. Check this one out ASAP! (Already posted my favorite song from the album so I'll post the title track instead)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJf9VjXCPio

Satanic Warmaster

>>128058645
Whoops thought this was /meal/.

>>128058655
All good

This album is good for this month.
https://youtu.be/1-s3r8gv2WU?si=kSsI8SPWTa_tLEC4

>>128058837
The only Fastway stuff I'm familiar with is their first two albums. Also wasn't this the soundtrack to some movie?

>>128051412
Kino

>>128058850
I think it was since the album title on youtube says motion picture.

>>128057657
I can't stand the blend of English/Japanese lyrics.

>>128059939
You'll get used to it after a while if you continue to listen to it, it bothered me a bit when I was first getting into jap metal too

Definitely a top 10 Ozzy song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34juXrJWqw

>>128061047
It's one of the few good songs off of that album but no way in hell is it a top 10 contender. I'm also not a fan of this shit either, https://youtu.be/j34juXrJWqw?t=200, just sounds stupid

>>128061128
>but no way in hell is it a top 10 contender
Easily. It's easily a top 10 Ozzy song.
>I'm also not a fan of this shit either
The vocoder thing? It's cool and it's 80s.

>>128061300
>It’s easily a top 10 Ozzy song.
It’s comparable to one of the “good” (not great) songs off Bark at the Moon like Slow Down or Now You See It (Now You Don’t). A good song, but I wouldn’t put it up with one of the best. I think everything off Blizzard and Diary is better.
>The vocoder thing? It’s cool and it’s 80s.
Yeah, that. IMO There’s only one song that pulls it off well and that’s Kickstart My Heart. I’ve never heard a good use of it otherwise, and in Miracle Man it just sounds tacked on.

https://youtu.be/OOE6L1_d0zo?si=NtcwrAP3ROfOUVZ6
My favorite Saxon album

My favorite Saxon album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Z_hqMAgPw

https://youtu.be/ECGp4ibz7A8
Underrated niggerdeth track

>>128051412
Still haven't given any of the Tony Martin albums a listen yet, and I've been a Sabbath fan since I was a teenager.

Can I get some (traditional) doom metal recommendations? Preferably stuff along the lines of Sabbath, Vitus, and Pentagram; but will glad take epic doom reccs.

>have everything from Black Sabbath, Pentagram, Pagan Altar, Witchfinder General, Crypt Sermon, and Briton Rites
>all of the classic Saint Vitus albums
>first 2 Reverend Bizarre
>first 4 Trouble albums
>King of the Dead, and the last 2 releases from Cirith Ungol
>first 7 Candlemass albums
>In Vision by Place of Skulls
>Capricon by Orchid
>The Black Powder by Lord Vicar
>The Year is Zero by Spiritus Mortis
>Destruction of the Void by Count Raven, along with their newest album
>Dopethrone by Electric Wizard
>Sleep's Holy Mountain.
>last 2 Green Lung albums
>Crimson Horizon, and Darkest Hour by Solitude Aeternus

>>128062523
Underrated in what sense? That's one of their signature live cuts.

>>128062665
Just a reminder that Ozzy isn't Black Sabbath - Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath. They've released 20 records and they all range from good to amazing. Most bands can barely string 4-5 good albums together.

>>128064381
>Just a reminder that Ozzy isn't Black Sabbath - Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath.
Yeah I'm aware man.

>>128064381
>(traditional) doom metal
Cathedral comes to mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vSVzkmGI4
I'd appreciate any glam recs you guys have

>>128064601
For the very most part I can't stand Cathedral. It's Lee's vocals. The Carnival Bizarre is alright doe.

>>128064657
I don't dig his style either desu

>>128064601
Oops. Yeah, I have The Etheral Mirror and The Carnival Bizarre. Was considering their debut, but I'm intimidated by the death metal component. I'm afraid it will bore me into oblivion.

>>128064381
I didn't like the album that much (just thought it was decent) but check out Mercy - Witchburner from 1985

Vocals take a bit of getting used to but this is musically excellent.

>>128067641
What is it, like USPM?

>>128067710
Reminescent of the grittier EUPM bands, think stuff like Grave Digger or Hammerfall. There's certainly some USPM influence in there though.

>>128067814
>Reminescent of the grittier EUPM bands
That sounds right up my alley, I'll add it to the backlog and give it a shot soon.

Great album, though the final song does go on a tad too long. I had trouble really comparing this to anything, but gun to my head; the music here is somewhat like Chastain mixed with early Fates Warning.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44gxJwuwoaabBKHK8dJHAVsD6C5LAFAw

>>128038371
So I took my own advice and an an hour to make it to a single album and resequence it.
1. You Could Be Mine
2. Dust N' Bones
3. Live And Let Die
4. Perfect Crime
5. Don't Cry (Original Version)
6. Back Off Bitch
7. Right Next Door To Hell
8. The Garden
9. Civil War
10. Pretty Tied Up
11. Yesterdays
12. Don't Damn Me
13. So Fine
14. November Rain

Just listened to it at work. I think it flows extremely well.

>>128072933
I've only listened to the first one and thought it was good but not great. Too much filler and not enough hits.

>>128064625
Give Razormaid - First Cutt a try, it's good heavy/glam in the same vein of Back for the Attack Dokken and even sports a similar razor sharp guitar tone

>>128073014
*of Back for the Attack by Dokken

>>128072961
>I've only listened to the first one
Literally incomprehensible.

>>128074029
Listened to the first one, wasn't impressed enough with what I heard so I didn't listen to the second album. :p

>>128074044
They were the biggest rock band on the planet at that time. You never had any interest in the other album, not even for historical purposes? That's just downright peculiar.

>>128074143
Not really. I think '70s Aerosmith were much better at that brand of sleazy hard rock.
>not even for historical purposes? That's just downright peculiar.
In all fairness this was a few years ago, before I took the plunge into music and was still feeling around trying to figure out what I liked and didn't.

I'm gonna head out for the night, have this kickass EP I checked out a few months back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI2rQnOWoSI