Thread 128062881

>vinyl revival
>nice
>look at the stores
>$40 each record
>what the hell
What the hell.

>>128062881 (OP)
Millennials started getting back into vinyl because it was insanely cheap at the time and boomers were selling them by the box for like $10. Zoomers then got into it for the wrong reason and view them just as trophies to display in their apartment rather than actually use them as a medium to listen to music. This is why every new album has 20 different vinyl variants on release.

>vinyl revival
The thing is, it never went away - depending on what music you're into, anyway. All through the 2000s I'd see loads of hip hop and electro vinyl in music stores, you could buy old rock & pop LPs for dirt cheap in thrift stores - it was only when mainstream normie music started getting the hecking 180g audiophile quality vinyl (which is total marketing BS by the way) treatment that there was apparently a "vinylbros we r so back" moment around 15 years ago.

>>128062919
>Zoomers...view them just as trophies to display in their apartment
I don't think it's exclusively zoomers. More like a specific kind of person. Either super normie or high functioning autists, the kind who love anime and who already love collecting figurines I mean. I know a guy like the latter, who's a millennial and a bit weird and rather neurotic.

>everyone floods vinyl sections
>be me
>go to the CD sale section
>get dirt cheap CDs instead

>>128062881 (OP)
Weren’t they like $30 back in the 90s when they were still common?

>>128062881 (OP)
Just buy CDs. It's better quality and cheaper.

>>128062999
Or be me. Just download flac music on online

>>128063268
dunno about the 90s but 15 years ago on juno, decks, hardwax, and co it was about €20 for an album and €7-€12 for an EP

>>128062999
CDs are getting the vinyl revival treatment now. Used CDs at my local store go for at least $10.

>>128063322
I looked it up and in Australia in the 90s new release vinyl was $30. What I mean is there’s got to be some inflation going on, $30 was more pocket money then than it is now. It’s ~€17 right now

Stop buying shitty pop and rap albums then

>Go into HMV
>See Elizium by Fields of the Nephilim on vinyl
>FUCK YEAH
>£40
>LMAO
>Puts it back
>Leaves the shop
Nu-vinyl prices are taking the fucking micky

>>128063281
>2025
>good headphones
>good speakers
>still not sure if flac is worth the space and what I should focus on when I listen to them.

>>128062881 (OP)
>be my buddy
>want to go vinyl for years
>finally do it
>nice equipment
>cool looking
>buys up quite a few of his fave albums

a few months later...
>Me: was it worth it?
>Buddy: Yeah, it's kind of fun. I have a nine-album grid on the wall where I dsiply my favourites.
>Me: How much better is the sound?
>Buddy: *looks down* yeah, it's not. that part was pretty disappointing. if i'd done it only for the sound, I'd regret it.

I saved so much money.

>>128062881 (OP)
>200-300$ now because the 2024 remaster was utter shit

>>128063949
it's not, ideally just use opus
quality is indistinguishable and it doesn't rape all your space

>>128063949
>>128064234
192 kbps Opus is more than enough for a good balance between space efficiency and sound quality (128-160 kbps is considered "transparent"). I just go for 192kbps just to be doubly sure. 192kbps is indistinguishable from Flac in blind tests (even 160 kbps can achieve this as well, but YMMV on that one).

>>128064274
I assume opus will have less releases than flac and mp3 though.
Is 320 mp3 really complete trash compared?

>>128064000
>if i'd done it only for the sound, I'd regret it.
Your friend was probably buying modern pressings of stuff which are literally just a sympathetically mastered digital recording pressed onto a record, so yeah there was probably no appreciable difference.

I only buy old records for this reason: analog playback medium demands analog mastering. I have a Beatles album where side A is tube-mastered and that thing jumps out of the speakers like I'm waving a bag of sniff in its face: its night and day vs. listening on Spotify or whatever.

Moral of the story is not all vinyl is created equal. Saying that, one of the best sounding records I own is the 2015 remaster of Forever Changes - that was done from the original tapes though, and is very nice to listen to.

>>128064517
Additionally, the best sounding record will still sound like shit if you play it on some normieslop turntable e.g anything that says Crosley on it - with the added advantage that it'll fuck your records up in the long term because you can't calibrate the tracking weight or put a good stylus on them.

>>128064468
Depends. I have never downloaded Opus, I just either rip all my CDs/Cassettes to it or I convert my Flac files to Opus.

Yeah 320 mp3s are pretty bad. I believe 96-128kbps Opus is comparable to AAC and 128+ is comparable to Flac in terms of sound quality.
Mp3 is, what, a 30+ year old technology at this point? Opus has been around for a bout a decade, so it'll have new tech in it and it's completely open source and royalty free too.

>vinyl revival
>digitally mastered

>>128063268
there was a time during the 90s when vinyl was actually cheaper than a newly released CD, unless it was a double LP
>>128063411
a lot of CDs have gone out of print in the last 5-10 years, even classic albums by popular artists. As a result, the prices on the second hand market have skyrocketed.

>>128062919
The sad part it’s not even good weighted vinyl or vinyl from mastered tapes because it’s all digital conversion. You’re just buying the sizzle. Just add white noise to the background of the album.

>>128064468
yes mp3 is fucking dogshit
i only use flac and vorbis

Are there vinyl records today that are mastered entirely in analog, straight from the master tape? Or do they have to go through some kind of digital process?

Does NOBODY on /mu/ know what thrifting is?
Every vinyl thread I see almost NOBODY mentions it. That's the most interesting aspect of collecting. Finding weird obscure vinyl oddities. Buying albums you love for a decent price is just a fun side bonus.
A vast, vast majority of my collection I've bought for $20 or under.

>>128067082
>Are there vinyl records today that are mastered entirely in analog, straight from the master tape?
Doubt. Most vinyl is mastered via a DAC, essentially vinyl is an oversized and overpriced CD.

>>128067134
But i don’t want crap albums :/
Vinyl is for losers anyway. Cd sound quality is superior to vinyl and easy to rip and handle as digital files if needed. Vinyl looks cool of course, but what a hassle. You even have to turn the side in the middle of an album? Lol. Millennial here.

>>128062919
>Millennials started getting back into vinyl because it was insanely cheap at the time and boomers were selling them by the box for like $10
This simple lesson is what people need to learn. There was a general interest in older things and tech among millennials but ultimately if the vinyl wasn't very cheap nothing would have happened. Some records were always expensive but now nearly nothing is cheap. People also turned to cassettes and CDs, but those aren't cheap either and especially not anymore. These things will one day collapse in price again. If you actually care about the format, it will eventually be very cheap to buy some stuff. If you're just collecting to collect, you'll deserve your fate like all other collectors.

>>128062881 (OP)
That would be the price of a double vinyl. I have seen people trying to sell their albums for 30 dollars though

>>128063425
It does seem to be rap artists that overcharge for all merch

>>128067813
>But i don’t want crap albums
And you instantly know they're "crap" because...?

>>128063949
An 8TB HDD costs $130, no idea how people still view disk space as a concern in 2025

>>128068373
Because they can't afford it. Zoomers are the most deprived generation in history.

>>128064517
>>128064542
Good tips what should people look for on the cover that tells it was analog mastered?

>>128065030
I’ve got a few hundred CDs at mum’s house hopefully she didn’t donate them

>>128064517
Interesting. Never thought about this. Of course it will be a digital slop just recorded on a vinyl.
Eye opening. Do zoomers realize it's not tubes and tapes on vinyls?

>>128064823
Is there any measurement to compare these files to CD quality?

There was a little record store near me that I used to go to all the time a decade ago. Most of their inventory was under ten dollars and they had a great selection so I shopped there a lot. Went in there a few years ago and every album was at least 20 dollars. Billions must die

CD better. Feel sorry for anyone trying to get into CDs now. The shit is getting blown out. It's not completely terrible yet unlike vinyl, but it'll get there by the end of the decade.

>>128067082
>>128067549
Sure there are, plenty of premium reissues of old albums are all-analog productions. Blue Note's Tone Poets, to name one example

>>128062919
Sam thing with VHS tapes. I used to get them for like a quarter each because I was a broke ass millennial in the early 2010s. I could get a tape for 25 cents and a player for a dollar at goodwill. Now some zoomer faggot would based face at le analog physical media and pay hundreds for them.

>>128062881 (OP)
In Australia it's 40 - 70 AUD

>>128064998
This. Why even buy new vinyls if the music is still digitally made anyway? Just get CDs instead