Thread 128106791

Staind should be included in the metal archives based on this album.

>>128106791 (OP)
why? it's just shitty 90s alt metal. basically tool.

>>128106807
he's pointing out the hypocrisy of including nu metal bands that started off not being/grew out of nu metal. like soulfly.

>>128106865
if tool is not there then there is no reason this should be.

>>128106791 (OP)
Surely not being included on Metal Archives is a badge of honor?

>>128106979
If your a poser.

Good album especially love the opener. The Fred durst story is iconic too

>>128106865
>grew out of nu metal
Which is why they are included.

>>128106807
>why? it's just shitty 90s alt metal. basically tool.
>>128106946
>if tool is not there then there is no reason this should be.
How is this album comparable to tool? Isn't tool actually prog? is it just some of the aesthetics and singing style?

>>128106865
Soulfly were way more metal than this

>>128107271
he sounds exactly like maynard. single note minor scale drop d riffs.

>>128106865
>he's pointing out the hypocrisy of including nu metal bands that started off not being/grew out of nu metal. like soulfly.
>>128107237
>Which is why they are included.

I'm actually kinda arguing that (at least in terms of riffs) staind wasn't (just?) nu-metal in their first album. I dunno the exact definition of nu-metal, but that's kinda what it feels like to me.


https://staind.bandcamp.com/album/tormented

I think lot of the riffs are similar to traditional metal, or groove metal like pantera. It's also a lot heavier and rawer (due to the production) than their later albums.

wait, TOOL is not metal? how?

>>128107348
what's metal about them? it's just hard rock.

>>128107303
>he sounds exactly like maynard.
I agreed with the sinigng comparison.
>single note minor scale drop d riffs.
Tool riffs (and songs) seemed more complex to me. Are you talking about staind's first album or the later ones?

>>128107575
the album you posted. listen to opiate or undertow by tool.

>>128106807

whats the difference between alt-metal and regular metal?

>>128107359
It doesn't seem accurate to just call TOOL hard rock.

>>128107626
"regular metal" is a broad category.

>>128107640
but they are basically just hard rock band that rips off king crimson riffs once in a while

>>128107774
but muh fibonacci sequence

>>128106807
>>128107729

Are riffs like this alt metal? To me they feel like "regular" metal.
https://staind.bandcamp.com/track/question

Lmao have you ever looked at the forums at metal archives? These days its a bunch of trannys crying and getting offended by everything. Sad state of metalheads these days

>>128107020
Black Metal bands literally pose with makeup on and they're on there

>>128106946
It's odd Helmet and Faith No More are included but they aren't

>>128106946
i swear. you tool fans are worse than juggalos
>dId YoU kNoW tHeY uSe oDd TiMe SiGnAtUrEs!?!??!

>>128110169
I dont think they were talking about the proggy aspects of tool, but rather the metallic aspects of tool (earlier especially)

>>128107348
>wait, TOOL is not metal? how?
they obviously are, metalheads in general are literally retarded which explains nonsense such as "metal archives"

>>128110945
literally nothing metal about them

>>128110945
>>128110974
Could both of you elaborate on your standpoint?

What makes their riffs (not) metal?

>>128107594
>the album you posted. listen to opiate or undertow by tool.
I'll have to go relisten to it and compare them. I dont really remember much of them.

What does it say about me that I liked* tormented more than those albums?

*or at least was able to vibe with the album quicker.

bymp