Thread 128145344

Melissa edition
Mercyful Fate - Evil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvtBz3pnXD0

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>Is [genre/band/album] fit for /trad/?
If you have to ask this, it probably isn’t and you should take what you want to talk about somewhere else.
>When will charts be added to the OP?
Once we finish all of the main 1980s charts and move onto the '90s.

USEFUL LINKS
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1luaLZfavSeXui9RkO1PZ3U5gAE1XHfkH?usp=drive_link - Giant archive of old metal & rock magazines.
https://www.metal-archives.com/ - Search for your favorite bands and look under the “similar artists” tab.
https://en.metal-tracker.com/ - Bittorrent tracker from Russia, in order to use it you need to have a registered account.
https://rateyourmusic.com/ - Search for albums, charts and lists here. (Some early trad albums have metal as a secondary rather than primary; so when looking for music from the early-mid ‘70s make sure you include heavy metal as a secondary in your filter as well.)
https://www.slsknet.org/news/node/1 - P2P application for downloading albums. It is your best friend.

Vote for the next album here: https://strawpoll.com/NoZrzpoXrZ3
Previous thread: >>128000590

1986 chart is still in progress, reply to this post with the albums you want suggested
1 Vote = Put on the list
2 Votes = Greater priority
3+ Votes = Automatic inclusion

These kind of define metal for me.

Did I do it right?

>>128145492
yeah
>psalm 9
PERFECT album. the fall of lucifer is probably my favorite doom metal song

>>128145365
Fifth Angel - Fifth Angel
Accept - Russian Roulette

>>128145991
That marks 3 votes for fifth angel's debut, just put it on the chart

Basedest thread on this board

>>128145344 (OP)
friendly reminder that King Diamond was, is, and always will be a turd burglar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9gaI5nrzd8

>>128147243
this is probably the smartest butthead has ever been lol

>>128145365
Heir Apparent - Graceful Inheritance
Manilla Road - The Deluge

>>128147315
Heir Apparent has been added

oh and The Deluge too

>>128145365
Motörhead - Orgasmatron

>>128145344 (OP)
Great song ruined by awful vocals.

Am about to check out Iron Man's debut so I figured I'd also listen to Force's (the band before Iron Man) debut EP. First song's pretty good, and very doomy for the time; but the rest of the material here is pretty disposable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14Vu3fkjZ8

It's pretty good. Has plenty of good songs but only one standout with "Life After Death", and the record loses some steam by the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgOdCoC2sfA

Not very good and definitely NOT US Power Metal. If you call Frost and Fire US Power Metal you might as well call Aerosmith US Power Metal.

King of the Dead is more doomy and has more interesting songwriting but with worse vocals than Frost and Fire.

>>128150235
I love these two albums, 'specially the latter
>and definitely NOT US Power Metal.
Do people even say it is? Cirith's debut is just heavy/hard, and King of the Dead has like one USPM song on it. Rest is doom & heavy

>>128150246
>Do people even say it is?
"Its first studio album, Frost and Fire (1981), featured a heavier sound,[3] generally regarded as an early example of American power metal. By its second studio album, King of the Dead (1984), it had solidified its power metal style while gravitating toward a much "darker" sound, with many considering the album among the first doom metal releases."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirith_Ungol_(band)
>I love these two albums, 'specially the latter
I thought the screaming vocals, that basically wasn't following a melody at all (especially on King of the Dead where it sounds like he just changes between two different notes back and forth in each song) was in juxtaposition to the consistent blues licks the guitars was playing.

>>128150384
Huh. Well Wikipedia in terms of genres only pulls from what other people say, mostly publications that don't know shit about music (on WP Zeppelin IV has heavy metal as one of its genres for Christ's sake) so I'm not really surprised.
>I thought the screaming vocals, that basically wasn't following a melody at all (especially on King of the Dead where it sounds like he just changes between two different notes back and forth in each song) was in juxtaposition to the consistent blues licks the guitars was playing.
Fair enough. I just think the vocals are rad lol

>>128150426
Each to their own. I mostly prefer melodic vocals.

>>128150452
Same here, but I think the harsh snarling in Cirith Ungol actually works when paired with that heavy, bluesy riffing. I can't really describe it but it adds to the mystical atmosphere of King of the Dead specifically.

>>128145344 (OP)
Posting some obscure Heavy/Speed metal: Strattson - Le Blues
https://youtu.be/BbR2gPg89HI

Also here is some modern speed metal from a band out of Los Angeles: Siege - Full Speed Metal
https://youtu.be/eXWHytDupmQ

>>128150781
>Also here is some modern speed metal from a band out of Los Angeles: Siege - Full Speed Metal
This sounds kind of cool, I might check it out after I'm done with the record I'm listening to

A flawless album, a masterclass in atmosphere and songwriting, and the best doom metal record I've listened to so far. Seriously, go listen to it. It's THAT fucking good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAF4giSVZWk

>>128150384
wikipedia is really terrible with metal genres, like not even remotely close half the time. metallum lists Cirith Ungol as Epic Heavy/Doom Metal

>>128151039
Why not fix it to help out the next mealman?

>>128151091
You'd likely get smacked with a warning for tampering with pages because as I said in a previous post, they only include what other, actually established people say about the genres

>>128151150
I doubt it, considering there isn't even a source for the genres on Cirith Ungol's page.

>>128151189
>considering there isn't even a source for the genres on Cirith Ungol's page.
Odd, for citing sources for album genres is common protocol over there iirc

>>128150885
good shit, this album sounds like Fates Warning gone doom, not something I'd ever expect to say lol

>>128151226
You're not the first person to think that lol, the way they fuck with time signatures and their overall sound is really reminiscent of Arch-era FW

>>128151220
*citing sources for album genres is common protocol over there IIRC
had a retard moment

THe other subgenres should have some sort of logo to represent them, some sort of minimal symbol like the speed metal swirl logo. The one for black metal would obv be a pentagram, the thrash metal could be the skanerman/DRI guy but its more of a crossover or punk thing

>>128151311
Well obviously power metal would be a sword and US power metal a battle axe or war hammer.

>>128151311
i have never seen that logo for speed metal. i like it though

>>128151334
poser detected

>>128151334
>i have never seen that logo for speed metal.
Asuka.

>>128151350
i walked right into that one

>>128145365
Sacred Blade - Of the Sun + Moon

>>128151399
Surprised this one didn't get suggested sooner, pretty good album desu

>>128151399
yeah, it's always been underrated. fingers crossed it'll get a CD reissue now that they're back in action

>>128151527
>>128151492
sorry, misclicked

Making the power metal one now, how's this for the sword

>>128151547
Not minimal enough i think, it just being a silhouette would work better i think

>>128151560
good call, lemme adjust it

how about now?

>>128151587
nta but it looks alright imo. it'd work as a patch. it kinda makes me want to listen to Ironsword though

>>128151605
hell yeah
>it kinda makes me want to listen to Ironsword though
sounds familiar, i think i've seen that band pop up in my searches - they any good?

>>128151311
A pentagram wouldn't be the best imo, considering how many bands/types of black metal there is without satanic lyrics/themes.
I don't have any idea what else it could be, though.

>>128151628
they're a straight up Manilla Road worship band (sometimes with Mark as a guest singer), if you like the idea they're pretty fun. Overlords of Chaos is probably my favorite

>>128151648
>I don't have any idea what else it could be, though.
besides a swastika the only thing that came up in my head was a viking helmet ('cause of bathory)

>>128151649
i do like the idea, a lot actually. right now it's a bit too late for me to check out anything new but i'll download their debut record right now and listen to it tomorrow

>>128151694
Yes, a swastika crossed my mind as well but it has the same problem as the pentagram.
You'll figure something out.

have a nice night tradbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5lJcG6gkM

>>128151718
>but it has the same problem as the pentagram.
you also have to factor in that pentagrams aren't black metal exclusive, either. there's plenty of trad bands that used them like witchfynde,
>You'll figure something out.
yes, i'll worry about that tomorrow

>>128151738
g'nite anon

>>128151738
>>128151648
looks like some others out there already attempted it

>>128145365
Should noble savage by virgin Steele get a mention?

https://genius.com/Black-sabbath-wheels-of-confusion-lyrics

How does the rhyming work in the verses of this song? Does it rhyme?

>>128151926
No.

>>128151926
imagine making a song so kino that it sounds smooth and flawless even without rhyming

Sadly most of Queen's early stuff is very overlooked, they had some pretty heavy stuff for the time when they were an oddball hybrid of protometal, prog and glam rock.

https://youtu.be/I2dkIK81O2U?si=JG8XRFLFqj-Ni7cU
https://youtu.be/GriPVfPDO7M?si=kDMwW_3sojeJmOlH
https://youtu.be/MDd7lDHTpeg?si=VmVYuUzlsJ7FWmrk

>>128151998
Yeah
Tho the last part rhymes

>>128152272
slight correction, I was referring to the bridge

bump

>>128145344 (OP)
I should probably try to get more into trad metal but this is probably one of the more obscure trad metal albums that I return to every now and again.

>>128151883
the one on the left looks good, before i went to sleep i thought maybe an upside down cross would work but it presents the same problem as a pentagram

>>128151898
you tell me lol

USPM never ceases to amaze me

>>128155921
great album, all but one of the 10/10s are on the a-side though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3wMZPMGHyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGPfiQeSnik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU6H5rTBiTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiGVp-f-9uU

>>128155944
The closer is my favorite song desu

>>128155961
for me that's the 10/10 on the b-side, fallout is a REALLY good song

>>128155969
Yeah it's fucking amazing. It's refreshing when an album saves the best for last instead of instantly blowing the load on the first track lol

>>128156230
>It's refreshing when an album saves the best for last instead of instantly blowing the load on the first track lol
There's no other album guilty of this than picrel, Let It Loose is one of the quintessential speed metal songs but everything after doesn't even come close to matching that mythical first song

Listening to Ironsword's debut right now, took a sec for my ears to adjust to the production but I really like what I'm hearing so far, especially that third song. Very thrashy and the way the riffing escalated in intensity was somethin else

It was good! Lost a bit of momentum with tracks 7 & 8 but it picked back up with the final song. Although at this point the band's sound is more reminiscent of say, Omen than Manilla Road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWMWm1fQtyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46HN_t2UIng

Mandatory album for the 1988 chart (only if this threads don't die out)

>>128158170
dude we're not even done with the 1986 chart yet lol

>>128159121
Great cover, does the original justice and has its own flair

It's okay. There's some lesser songs here, but nothing terrible. But on the flipside there's nothing amazing, either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzwmqY17NvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuW6_5c3zkU

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it, this is the most unecessary general ever

There are like 4 main 'trad' metal bands, and almost everything posted here is either them or a b-grade rip-off of them

>>128161917
You are right but what metal in /metal/ isn't a rip-off of someone else?

>>128145344 (OP)
I want to share this mixtape with other black metal enthusiasts here, is mostly old school including the studio version of Freezing Moon and Carnage with the vocals of theinfamous Mayhem vocalist Dead, Pagan Moon by the Beherit (Finland) and other classic that I hope you might enjoy as well is 66 minutes and 6 seconds length, enjoy:

https://www.mixcloud.com/Hati09/black-metal-mixtape/

>>128162056
This is the wrong thread for that

>>128162056
Beherit is based but wrong general. You want /metal/.

>>128162086
I will look for it, thanks anon

>>128162110
>>128157163

>>128162122
Thank you

>>128162174
np m8

Kino fucking album, I shouldn't have held it off for as long as I did. Title track, Into the Arena and Conquistadores are masterclass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFYKkOFNKjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6JDKTk9knE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPSYEvBWp0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8srE7wD2R2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrSNbWMLB8

>>128162831
Have you heard Under Jolly Roger? Is it good? I've only heard the title track and it was pretty cool.

>>128162922
Yeah, that one's also really good. It's got more of a tougher sound and stylistically is a blend between their speed metal days and Port Royal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_sxy2VqwA

>>128162951
Sounds cool, I'll give it a listen.

>>128163109
Hell yeah, I'm gonna go listen to Death or Glory since I've heard it's their best album and I really want to see how they could improve on the last

Huh. Y'know outside of the songs being more intricate and the highs being higher, this is more or less on the same playing field as Port Royal. Same overall level of quality, and same amount of hits, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klbaF9SPyBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po6lRvukrdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaqO-9KRKHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xddqAcOc7Ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8umtt8Bgg

>>128162922
It’s butt pirate music

>>128162831
great album but damn that Tank riff was probably one of the most ripped off in 80s metal, along with the 2 Minutes to Midnight/Curse of the Pharaohs opening riff

>>128162922
>>128163156
all of their stuff up to Masquerade is great IMO. Pile of Skulls is my favorite cause of the tremendous last song.

>>128164200
>all of their stuff up to Masquerade is great IMO.
Seems that's most of their '90s run then, I'm not checking out anything else today but I'll probably get to the next two RW albums in the coming days
>Pile of Skulls is my favorite cause of the tremendous last song.
I find it very hard to believe that this band managed to craft a better song than Riding the Storm desu

>I find it very hard to believe that this band managed to craft a better song than Riding the Storm desu
you'll believe it when you hear it lol. and more than once, there's a lot of killer stuff on their later albums. RW in the 90s were in a really strange place, at their best they played some of the best heavy metal in the world, their songwriting was getting more consistent and assured but at the same time their lineup was wearing out/disintegrating and the tipping point came right after Masquerade, they turned into a drum machine led studio project.

>>128164470
>you'll believe it when you hear it lol.
Listening to it right now, opening riff's really cool
>their songwriting was getting more consistent
It gets MORE consistent??? Under Jolly Roger, Port Royal and Death or Glory are all really fucking consistent in terms of quality
>they turned into a drum machine led studio project.
Very gay

Never-fucking-mind I selected a bonus track by accident lel, found the right one
>11:14
Oh boy

>>128164498
>It gets MORE consistent???
yeah, Death or Glory started this streak and it went on for a while. since you've got them queued up you'll see with the next 2 albums
>Very gay
Rolf even lied that the drum machine was a friend of his called Angelo Sasso. this bullshit got memed so hard that random demo bands started crediting Sasso for their drum machine tracks

>>128164589
Just finished Treasure Island, I still don't think I'd say it's better than Riding the Storm but it is REALLY fucking close between the two. The song's fuckin' flawless :p
>Rolf even lied that the drum machine was a friend of his called Angelo Sasso. this bullshit got memed so hard that random demo bands started crediting Sasso for their drum machine tracks
I'm kind of curious, did any of those bands actually get an EP/LP published with that mock credit? It'd be really fucking funny if one of them managed to slip between the cracks

>>128163959
what did you think of renegade on that album?

>>128164639
This one at least, I think.

https://www.discogs.com/release/25495360-Speed-Lvfter-Tornado-Of-Blades
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Speed_Lv%CC%87fter/Tornado_of_Blades/1099333

>>128164200
>great album but damn that Tank riff was probably one of the most ripped off in 80s metal, along with the 2 Minutes to Midnight/Curse of the Pharaohs opening riff
what was the tank riff?

>>128164759
I forgot to include it but it was the weakest of the 10s, still a fantastic song though

>>128164763
Although that is independently released.

>>128164763
Oh these are recent, I assumed the controversy was in the '00s

>>128164772
the ending of riding the storm fades into that one.

>>128164783
It was the only one I found with Angelo Sasso on "drums" after a quick search.

>>128164785
Yeah I know, I just forgot to copy-paste the link for that one in my post

>>128164792
You know I did say I wouldn't listen to anything else but this is dead short, could be a fun listen to end the night off with

>>128164200
>>128164470
>the tipping point came right after Masquerade, they turned into a drum machine led studio project.
>>128164498
>>128164589
>Rolf even lied that the drum machine was a friend of his called Angelo Sasso. this bullshit got memed so hard that random demo bands started crediting Sasso for their drum machine tracks

Did black hand Inn use a drum machine? It came before the angelo sasso albums.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_Inn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KALQovnPibk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlWXBgD2Xv8

I'm not sure if the curse is the intro to Black Hand Inn, but anyways if you listen to the titular song you'll see why I was asking.
I think it sounds cool, but i have to wonder if its a drum machine.

>>128164822
Report back how it was.

>>128164869
Will do

>>128164766
Just Like Something from Hell

>>128164835
Black Hand Inn was a quantized e-drum kit I think

How does Midnight stack up to period Tate? imo he has a comparable high end (a bit more abrasive and raspy though) but I think Tate's lower range is night and day better.

>>128164900
I prefer period Tate, his performances had more variety and like you said his low-range was a lot more well-defined

Meat and potatoes speed metal that gets very same-y almost immediately. I guess if I had to pin this down to a style it'd be like a more punk-y Exciter, and off memory Atomkraft's debut sounds somewhat similar to this.

Peace out tradbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQD7tx6-o-Y

>>128164898
>Black Hand Inn was a quantized e-drum kit I think
did they have that in 1994?

How does in compare to Angelo Sasso who was believed to be a drum machine? I haven't heard the two albums he's on.

>>128165521
Not the only time an song on the album after the one it shared its name with.

Anyways, speaking of def leppard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlAyNCbychA

>>128164900
Geoff Tate had a more natural lower register and more bottom in his voice.

bump

>>128166322
One of their groovier songs and a killer riff, you should check out the non-LP version of Hello America too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6qodddEeH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9Q2d7ORVU

>>128166220
>did they have that in 1994?
they had it way back in the 70s when Kraftwerk opened the gates. btw, just remembered this browsing the thread, the drums on Crimson Glory's Transcendence were tracked in a Fairlight CMI.

>How does in compare to Angelo Sasso who was believed to be a drum machine?
huge difference, the Sasso albums have really obvious basic drum programming anyone could do after 30 minutes messing around. you can tell right away that a drummer didn't arrange those parts

Saint Vitus - Zombie Hunger live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-BcGcuYviM
This shit moves mountains

Just re-listened to this record out of boredom, and while it is a downgrade from BTL, the music here is still really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8z3imflEd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqCRgoW-b8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtTNBfnSLwE

>>128173497
this is their most uneven album to me. even V which has bigger stylistic disparities is more consistent as a whole imo. there's something about Wino's songwriting that just rubs me the wrong way no matter who he writes for.

Ritual - Widow (1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiEq03hS0Sc

like Pagan Altar but way darker. maybe the doomiest NWOBHM ever

>>128164835
>>128164898
The worst offender of this shit are the mid-late '80s Van Halen albums where Alex is using a real snare and cymbals but the bass drums and toms are all Simmons pads.

>>128173733
I checked this album out a few months back, I thought the first song was really good but the rest was somewhat subpar
>but way darker. maybe the doomiest NWOBHM ever
I'd say it is, I remember it being very doomy

>>128173636
I can see where you're coming from with the first song (though I still like it) but what about the rest of the album feels "off" to you?

>>128173749
give it a few more spins, it grows on you fast. btw I think this album suffered the same fate as Sad Wings where sides A and B were switched around in the manufacturing process. that would explain the long "bookend" rain samples on A3 and B1

>>128173815
I just think Wino's songs are plodding in a bad way, like he was trying to copy Chandler's slow dirges and it didn't work. look at a song like The War Starter, Chandler can easily ride 1 riff for minutes on end and keep it interesting with nuanced playing, this thing is missing from Wino's songs which makes me think he didn't understand his own bandmate's guitar style.

>>128174001
>give it a few more spins, it grows on you fast. btw I think this album suffered the same fate as Sad Wings where sides A and B were switched around in the manufacturing process. that would explain the long "bookend" rain samples on A3 and B1
Alright, I've got nothing else to do tonight so I'll give it another shot. You think I should switch around the album's order?
>I just think Wino's songs are plodding in a bad way, like he was trying to copy Chandler's slow dirges and it didn't work. look at a song like The War Starter, Chandler can easily ride 1 riff for minutes on end and keep it interesting with nuanced playing, this thing is missing from Wino's songs which makes me think he didn't understand his own bandmate's guitar style.
You know what, I can see it. The Troll comes to mind as a song that's pretty guilty of this, very slow song but to the point where it becomes somewhat plodding. (Though again, I'm such a sucker for trad doom that I still like the song lol)

>>128174137
>You think I should switch around the album's order?
idk, as with Sad Wings I'd say it works well either way. the reissue with the 4 bonus tracks is my favorite way to listen to this album, not only because the extra length serves the atmosphere but because those songs were too good to stay unreleased.

btw, what did you think about the last Pagan Altar with Radigan on vocals? disappointment of the year for me...

>>128174326
>the reissue with the 4 bonus tracks is my favorite way to listen to this album, not only because the extra length serves the atmosphere but because those songs were too good to stay unreleased.
I had initially only downloaded the release tracks, just snagged the bonuses
>btw, what did you think about the last Pagan Altar with Radigan on vocals? disappointment of the year for me...
I've actually never listened to them before. They're one of the few NWOBHM bands I haven't gotten around to. What was so disappointing about it?

>>128174389
>I've actually never listened to them before.
wow, I envy you lol, I want to hear those first 3 albums for the first time again. the absolute top tier in classic doom. maybe skip that Ritual album tonight and listen to Pagan Altar's Volume 1 or Lords of Hypocrisy.

>What was so disappointing about it?
simplified playing, uncharacteristically weak songwriting, and the new singer trying to copy Terry Jones instead of bringing something his own style into the band. just felt like a wasted opportunity

>>128174611
>maybe skip that Ritual album tonight and listen to Pagan Altar's Volume 1 or Lords of Hypocrisy.
Might fucking have to. Had an issue downloading the bonus tracks and now that I'm trying to re-download the album slsk won't let me get out of the queue. I'll get PA Volume 1 instead, not keen on waiting around for Ritual to downlaod

>>128174684
Satan too has his miracles :D
when I discovered Pagan Altar, I felt the same way as when I first heard the Irons, Fate or Manilla. total magic.

>>128174772
>total magic.
Okay, if this album does not grant me magical abilities I will have you smote by the metal gods

Holy shit it's like Witchfinder General but with good vocals and a lot more rocking

>>128174814
this music goes pretty well with golden teacher, I'm not saying you should ever even consider trying this out but telepathy is a possible side effect

For people who strongly prefer trad over extreme metal, between death and black metal which do you prefer if you had to pick one?

It was fucking awesome, might just be one of my new favorites from the NWOBHM. And thanks to that anon for giving me the push to finally give it a shot - i really should've gotten to this one sooner but better late than never ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_s9Fsx2y0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdlyNqsyzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVjxDSsLjwk

>>128175485
the next 2 albums are even better than the debut so don't sleep on them!

>>128175512
Zzzzzzzzzzz

When did Varg turn into an annoying contrarian? Part of me thinks he's trolling but he's too much of a boomer for irony.

>>128175522
Wrong address

>>128175518
for real though, you want a good night's sleep? try marathoning the Dream Evil discography

>>128175569
Just looked them up on MA, they're tagged as heavy/power metal, what's so bad about 'em?
btw I just got the second PA album, putting it on right now

>>128175529
Oops, I searched 'metal' and just clicked what I thought was the new thread, I forgot there was a bit of a schism.

>>128175588
all good m8

>>128175582
after that zzzz post I racked my head trying to think of the most boring trad band imaginable and I couldn't come up with anything else on their level. they're like the Benediction of heavy metal, just good enough to be listenable but really fucking boring and each album is worse than the last. kind of a meme band too, best known as a Snowy Show vehicle.

>>128175650
>just good enough to be listenable but really fucking boring
In my time listening to metal I can't say I've run across a band I flat out think is boring (though that's likely due to me not going after full discographies.)
>kind of a meme band too
Meme band as in something like Manowar or just one that's never put out anything worthwhile?

>>128164900
>>128164919
>>128166451
Their similarity in styles is actually a bit weird when you consider their influences. While Tate was very much the evolution of his primary vocal influences - Gillan, Halford and Dickinson (with a bit of Freddie Mercury/David Byron-esque dramatic camp thrown in) -, according to the other Crimson Glory guys apparently Midnight was actually primarily into poppy folk rock like Simon & Garfunkel and Crosby Stills & Nash, and when it came to heavier music, he was only a very casual Led Zeppelin fan.

>>128175757
>In my time listening to metal I can't say I've run across a band I flat out think is boring
I almost fell asleep standing up at a Benediction show last year.
>Meme band as in something like Manowar or just one that's never put out anything worthwhile?
meme band as in their reputation precedes them but hardly anyone talks about their music. they secured long tours in Germany just by having Snowy in the lineup, and since Germany is a major market for trad they were suddenly getting pushed everywhere else. they play the blandest music imaginable and this kind of unwarranted success is so emblematic of the German "hard n heavy" live show circuit that they just come across as a joke to the rest of Europe. btw, Motorhead exploited German tastes with Bastards and made that country their home base in terms of album sales in one go, it's a really easy market to read

>>128175971
So if I read your post correctly, they're a band that's ONLY popular in one country (that is heavily biased in favor of trad, which isn't really surprising to me since a LOT of trad came from there) and because of that region-specific popularity they play all across Europe even though they don't like that style of music as much?

>>128175650
oh yeah. a band so boring I actually forgot they existed. Haunt. imagine "tradslop". imagine ALL the implications...
>>128176137
they're not really popular anywhere lol. any and all trad metal will sell in Germany. they have an insatiable fanbase, big enough that the quality doesn't matter. it's just a matter of getting a tour on with your act since that's how you get German marketers going, through the live circuit.

The multi-song epic was incredible, rest of the album is good too even if I think it takes a track or two for the record to REALLY get going

>>128176288
>oh yeah. a band so boring I actually forgot they existed. Haunt. imagine "tradslop". imagine ALL the implications...
They have a cool logo, but I'm looking at their releases and they pump one out year after year like a goddamn factory. I mean Christ, in 2020 they released THREE FUCKING ALBUMS AND A COMPILATION

Have a nice night bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5qSm7IcroY

IF YOU LISTEN TO FOOLS
THE MOB RULES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUwJuzw7O8

>>128177848
based, I like this one more than Inferno

Glacier - The Passing of Time (2020)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8n2OdnB1Rg

best trad album of the last 5 years

>>128181251
Someone recommended this in a past thread and I put it in the backlog, is the record really that good?

>>128182216
it would've been a legendary album if it came out in the 80s, which is even more incredible since the singer is the only one left from the last studio lineup (1985) and he's not even an original member. it destroys their classic stuff. I think I listened to it 10 times in a row when I first heard it, I can't even remember the last time this happened.

>>128182451
Alright, putting it on right now

>>128182451
Just finished side A

>>128182738
not too bad, huh? out of curiosity, how big is your backlog (for trad specifically)?

>>128182944
>not too bad, huh?
As I'm typing this I just finished the album, first impressions were fantastic and I have zero doubt I'll grow to like it the more I listen to it. This really is a modern classic lol
>how big is your backlog (for trad specifically)?
It's constantly expanding as I search around for more stuff but atm it's something like 150 in my library, and an extra 200 or so I haven't downloaded yet

>>128182451
>>128182994
I guess I will have to listen to it as well.

>>128183067
Give it a shot man, it's well worth your time

>>128182994
I'm surprised you liked Valor the least, it's one of the songs that I loved right off the bat. btw, Live for the Whip is the oldest song on the album, dating back to '84 I think. that one, Sands of Time and Infidel are the only pieces written in the 80s. all the others were written by the album lineup.
>It's constantly expanding as I search around for more stuff
if you haven't listened to Warlord's Free Spirit Soar yet, I highly recommend that one, another superb comeback album. not as consistent as the Glacier LP but it could be their best full-length despite that, the peaks are fucking immense.

>>128158170
had completely forgotten about this band, cheers mate

>>128183141
>I'm surprised you liked Valor the least, it's one of the songs that I loved right off the bat.
It's a great song but it just didn't grab me like the others did, though it was very close to being a 9 so it'll likely grow on me
>Live for the Whip is the oldest song on the album, dating back to '84 I think. that one, Sands of Time and Infidel are the only pieces written in the 80s.
I had a feeling Live for the Whip was from the '80s, despite it having that modern production it felt like an old-school USPM song in structure
>if you haven't listened to Warlord's Free Spirit Soar yet, I highly recommend that one, another superb comeback album. not as consistent as the Glacier LP but it could be their best full-length despite that, the peaks are fucking immense.
This is why I need to go back to maintaining a fuckin' list, Warlord has been on my radar for quite a while and I still have yet to listen to them because I pick stuff from my library at random. I want to listen to And the Cannons of Destruction Have Begun before I check out that comeback record

>>128183273
>I want to listen to And the Cannons of Destruction Have Begun before I check out that comeback record
no you don't! at least save it for later. it's a Live Undead kind of deal where they're in the studio pretending to play live, and it has their worst singer ever Rick Cunningham ruining great songs. all you need to hear before you tackle their later stuff is the Deliver Us EP which is definitely on the same level as Nuns Have No Fun, Haunting the Chapel and In the Sign of Evil when talking about the best metal EPs of all time. that one is a top 5 USPM release and features an amazing vocal showing from Jack Rucker who unfortunately retired from music right after that recording.

the most annoying thing about this great band is that their "classic era", the Rucker lineup, only has 1 official release (the EP) and 1 more compilation song. once you're done with that, you don't have to stick to the chronology, since each lineup can be essentially called a separate project.

I could talk about this band for hours, tl;dr listen to Deliver Us right now.

>>128183506
>and it has their worst singer ever Rick Cunningham ruining great songs.
I got through about three songs into the LP and while I liked the instrumentation a lot, the vocals were pretty rough. Sounded pretty nasally and they lacked power.
>once you're done with that, you don't have to stick to the chronology, since each lineup can be essentially called a separate project.
>I could talk about this band for hours, tl;dr listen to Deliver Us right now.
On it.

>>128183506
>and it has their worst singer ever Rick Cunningham ruining great songs.
I got about three songs into the LP and while I liked the instrumentation a lot, the vocals were pretty damn rough. Rick's just not a good singer lol
>I could talk about this band for hours, tl;dr listen to Deliver Us right now.
Yes sir

>>128183599
Warlord's always been cursed with unstable lineups and in particular the few good vocalists they've had always left ahead of album sessions. if you want a long-form overview of their material with decent singing, you might actually want to hear the Live in Athens album before any of the studio stuff. it's nuts that they managed to pull off a great live recording despite constantly botching sessions in a controlled setting, but... whatever heh

>>128183700
I'm listening to the EP right now, the first song was fucking angelic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJkeqJqlbWU
>if you want a long-form overview of their material with decent singing, you might actually want to hear the Live in Athens album before any of the studio stuff
I'll probably check it out afterwards, because what I'm hearing on this EP is REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

It's a flawless EP, with the first two songs being some of the best trad I've heard. (Seriously, that first song is a masterpiece beginning to end.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJkeqJqlbWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flq94wbGKIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWcGXcbUHVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDsbNx_01U

>>128170229
>huge difference, the Sasso albums have really obvious basic drum programming anyone could do after 30 minutes messing around. you can tell right away that a drummer didn't arrange those parts
So, the issue is that the drum machine arrangement was done badly? rather than it being a drum machine?

Anyone ITT familiar with Brocas Helm? I'm about to give their debut a shot after seeing the band grouped with stuff like Jag Panzer and Manilla

>>128184277
yeah, it's just really lazy work. drum machines can be used well in metal but you need to have an idea what you want to do with them. not that there's a lot of positive examples of this in trad but take a look at Bathory's Blood on Ice, that album would lose its edge with a live drummer.
>>128184825
excellent band, each album is a good deal different from the others. I'd recommend giving them some time to sink in before you move on to the next one. they know how to play in a really messy style and can be really overwhelming on purpose. Black Death may be the most chaotic trad metal LP ever recorded, either that or the first Satan's Host album. batshit insane.

>>128185265
>I'd recommend giving them some time to sink in before you move on to the next one. they know how to play in a really messy style and can be really overwhelming on purpose.
Works out for me, I was planning on listening to something else (been tossing around in my head either Gaskin or Iron Cross's S/T) afterwards

>>128185305
in any case, let me drop this here or I'll forget to.

Manacle - No Fear to Persevere (2018)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPofZXDKExk

one of the few good NWOTHM bands. this actually sounds like it could've been put out in the 80s. short and sweet, just under 30 minutes.

>>128185379
Eh sure why not, I'll make that the next album I listen to. Thanks for the rec m8!
(Also you weren't kidding about Brocas, the songwriting has been throwing me for a fuckin' loop, though I am really liking it)

First impressions were very good but I think this one I need to give some repeated listens before I can come up with a definitive opinion. Very unique songwriting but it was kind of hard to keep up with at points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-TYw1gsrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biXiGuhML4Q

Great record, though I'd say out of the six songs here the only one that's essential listening is Fight for Your Life. That song's scarily good.

Just finished pic related. How I wish that they would've had someone in the band who could write vocal melodies or a producer who could've worked with them on that. If that would've been the case, they would've been on a bigger label at the time and sold much more units.

I'm not sure why the vocalist even bothered to sing in that gravelly low register when it doesn't sound good at all and he has this amazing natural high voice and you can hear that he's pushing hard when he's singing in his lower register. And he's keep going back to to that well of almost talk register all over this album. Just completely fucking retarded choice.

The best songs in my opinion was Symphony of Terror and Cardiac Arrest with The Crucifix as a third behind those two.

>>128188370
Good album but off memory my main issue with it was that there were clearly songs much better than others, like on an objective level there were ones that had more work put into them, were more ambitious, etc. I am on track to re-listen to it soon, though.

>>128188410
I think the music is really good, but the vocal melodies is just too off for me to rate it higher than 7/10. Many times during the listen I thought he sang against the music instead of with it. The guitar playing is great though.

>>128188434
>The guitar playing is great though.
That was the aspect I remember being the best. I think I'm going to go give it another listen, 'cause I don't remember anything of the vocal performance or many of the songs, either.

LOL I just put the damn thing on and I already get what you mean. It's not egregious, but the melody to my ears isn't synced with the backing instrumentation. It's quite jarring and takes away from an otherwise perfect USPM song.

>>128188496
Yeah exactly, it's as if he recorded the vocals to slightly different backing tracks on many places on that album.

>>128188542
Dude I can't unhear it now. I'm on Generally Hostile and while the last song didn't really have that sync issue, here it's fucking obvious.

Later bros, hope you all have a nice sleep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP52aNkLfts

Scrum Master! Scrum Master!
Where's the freedom I was after?
Scrum Master! Scrum Master!
You promised "Agile" lies!
Stand-up! Stand-up!
All I hear or see is stand-ups!
Deadline! Deadline!
Laughing as I die!

Fix me!

>>128188370
Stormwitch - Walpurgis Night is somewhat similar musically, you might like it. also not far off from debut era Running Wild.
>>128188434
agree to disagree btw, the barbaric approach makes this album. they later fell into the trap of studio perfectionism and that stuff is hard to get through.

>>128145344 (OP)
still think this is coolest metal album cover ever. don't even care for the album that much but would absolutely have this on a shirt

>>128192572
yep, this is the one.

>>128192572
Their coolest album cover, love how they incorporated Eddie into the pyramid itself

Adramelch - Broken History (2005)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNfDyczalY

for whatever reason there was very little hype to herald this excellent comeback. heaps of great riffing here, and the singer sounds exactly as on the 80s stuff.

Anything worth checking out on this chart?

>>128193368
I hate 99% of NWOTHM including the flagship bands, most of them are bandwagoners with no ideas. Ambush are particularly bad. some stuff that's worth a listen: Traveler (demo and 1st album), Manacle, Demon Bitch (if they even count as part of this "movement"). ymmv

>>128193368
I haven't listened to anything here, but I'll second Manacle and you should also check out Enforcer - Diamonds.

The outro of this song is fucking amazing

https://youtu.be/MkZ565NHxWE?si=kaxRnKFP-11NWfDa

>>128194419
Damn I forgot how catchy this song is

high fuckin' T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPKDAc0I6DA&list=RDdPKDAc0I6DA&start_radio=1

>>128194785
For me it's this one desu, magical song and the best off the record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8smtbPB6O6M

>>128194785
based, I prefer Stronger than Evil by a notch but both of those albums are damn near perfect

>>128194831
>damn near perfect
I've never listened to StE but Death or Glory was just a baseline "pretty good" album imo, not strong on tracks 2-4

>>128194870
give it more spins, it'll come together. or actually go for Stronger than Evil first.
I have the highest respect for Heavy Load for never using any more or less than what was exactly required to carry a song to full effect. at their best they never wasted a note. top tier arrangement skills.

Heavy Load - Swedish Live Conquest (1982)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nz0scng6duf3j8f/heavyload82slc.rar/file

rare bootleg including stuff from the first 2 albums and EP, sourced from radio shows. good sound quality.

>>128194945
>give it more spins, it'll come together. or actually go for Stronger than Evil first.
I'll put StE on and report back once I'm done

Are the Mentors /trad/? or do I have to make /rr/ - Rape Rock General

>>128194985
This band? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5aji0XN-xE

Listening to more, the riffing is obviously derived from shit like Judas Priest so yeah it's fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49GguDl9Pao (great song btw, nice groove and I love how crunchy the guitar tone is)

>>128194975
cool, you should like that one. it could be plausibly called an epic heavy album.

>>128195055
>it could be plausibly called an epic heavy album.
Hell yeah, the epic material off Death or Glory was my favorite part of the record

>>128195069
StR is shorter and more to the point but feels bigger. roughly half of the album has those epic stylings.

>>128195094
*StE even
btw, Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy plays guest bass on one of the songs

Album cover gave me an idea and I seized it lmao

>>128195137
kek well done

>>128195137
not bad

SINGING SWORDS IS SO FUCKING GOOD

>>128195288
damn right, it's in a 3-way tie with the title track and Roar of the North for my favorite song on this one. btw these lads really knew how to end an album - Roar is easily up there with Daybreak Ecstasy.

>>128195408
Title track is an easy 10/10, so far this album is in a completely different league than death or glory

>>128195010
hell yeah long live el duce

Heads and tails above Death or Glory. It slows down just a tad towards the end with Free and Saturday Night, but it bounces right back with that epic final song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wGQTWDsNcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKYHq5LXv-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGyZneSGeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1XwGzLz1Dk

Heads and shoulders above Death or Glory. The album slows down just a tad towards the end with Free and Saturday Night, but it bounces right back at the end with Roar of the North.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wGQTWDsNcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKYHq5LXv-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGyZneSGeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1XwGzLz1Dk

>>128195786
those two stick out at first but they quickly grew on me, Saturday Night especially has a neat thing going on with the guitar production where it reaches a sound not far off from Maiden's Somewhere in Time which is fucking crazy for a budget 1983 production.

more trivia, Heavy Load recorded another album before their breakup in the 80s. it leaked to a small handful of fans but was never widely circulated. I don't have it, all I know about it is that the song Walhalla Warriors from the reunion album scored its first recording there.

>>128195945
>those two stick out at first but they quickly grew on me
I imagine they'll grow on me more over time, I did still really like those songs after all.
>Heavy Load recorded another album before their breakup in the 80s. it leaked to a small handful of fans but was never widely circulated. I don't have it, all I know about it is that the song Walhalla Warriors from the reunion album scored its first recording there.
If you give me some more info on the album I could try looking around for it.. A while ago I discovered a complete version (through some weird russian .mp3 repository) of an obscure '81 album by the band Lodestone so it wouldn't be my first rodeo searching for this type of stuff.

>>128196028
>If you give me some more info on the album I could try looking around for it..
appreciate it and I wish I had anything to add, but I don't even know the working title or when it was recorded. afaik it was never bootlegged, so you only see it mentioned as "the unreleased album". it seems to have been kept under closed guard ever since the leak.

>>128196129
I found some stuff about an unreleased Heavy Load project from 1987, though I'm not sure if this what you're talking about. There's no download links online but the track-listing for the demo tape is readily available.
https://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=134&t=18716
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Heavy_Load/Demo_87/572745

>>128196172
that's not the one. the recording I'm talking about is a shelved full-length album. it must have included the song Walhalla Warrior in its tracklisting since the rumors about this session were the only sources of info about this song ahead of its rerecording for the 2023 album.

>>128193368
modern album covers are always so busy. not just trad bands but all metal genres

>>128196297
Okay so I'm doing some more sleuthing on Metallum since they have a biography for the band, and I noticed some stuff.
>In 1987, the Wahlquist brothers kick-started the band yet again and recorded an album with ex-UFO bassist Paul Gray and guitarist Patrik Karlsson. This album was never released, though.
That demo tape was recorded sometime in 1987, so it's almost guaranteed to be related to that brief comeback. But what struck me as odd was the additional notes section for Riders of the Ancient Storm.
>Produced and mastered at Thunderload Studios in Stockholm, Sweden during 1986-2023.
Assuming everything on their page is legitimate information, are there two separate unreleased albums from 1986 and 1987?

>>128196408
>Assuming everything on their page is legitimate information, are there two separate unreleased albums from 1986 and 1987?
beats me. it's possible that the 2023 album reused some preparatory recordings from when the band was officially inactive, but whether any such recordings were reused between the new album and any unreleased 80s stuff is beyond me. the timeline between StE and their 1987 breakup is really murky.

>>128196567
Damn, that's a shame. Though I should continue looking into this band in my spare time, their history's pretty interesting.

Oh yeah forgot to ask earlier lol, is Riders of the Ancient Storm worth checking out? The fact that it's at least some early material has me interested to see how it compares to the new stuff.

>>128196631
it is. and they're a very important band for continental heavy metal in general, even if their influence is not so obvious today. in Sweden they're seen as the founding fathers of their metal scene and their influence goes beyond trad. even mainstream bands like Europe (Final Countdown) are indebted to them
>>128196701
it's good. some of the songs are too busy imo, but it's way better than you'd expect after such a long break (exactly 40 years since StE!)

>>128196879
> in Sweden they're seen as the founding fathers of their metal scene and their influence goes beyond trad. even mainstream bands like Europe (Final Countdown) are indebted to them
Makes sense, they were palling around in the mid '70s, pretty much developed the entire melodic metal sound and were one of the first bands (Swedish or not) to release a proper trad album. On the topic of Europe though, I don't really think it's odd that they were influenced by HL; considering what they started out as.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_43nL5r-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAe9VbwG88g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnz7jFyWuiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AkdYICkSyw
>it's good. some of the songs are too busy imo, but it's way better than you'd expect after such a long break (exactly 40 years since StE!)
I'm fine with the songs being somewhat busy as long as the core spirit of the band stays in tact.

Sabbat - Satanasword (2000)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOggF1fReds

one of my all time favorites, heavy/black metal leaning towards the trad side on this album. killer guitarist & rhythm section. the 14 minute epic is fucking unreal, but not the only highlight!

>>128197036
Wow, this sounds a LOT like Show No Mercy desu

What are bm shows like?

>>128197121
the back-to-back 7 and 14 minute songs here are a masterclass.
btw, Gezol from Sabbat also plays in the NWOBHM tribute band Metalucifer and when I first saw them live they were opening for Omen. insanely catchy stuff but kind of hard to recommend lol
>>128197161
same as any other metal show these days.

>>128197194
>btw, Gezol from Sabbat also plays in the NWOBHM tribute band Metalucifer and when I first saw them live they were opening for Omen. insanely catchy stuff but kind of hard to recommend lol
I've actually heard of those guys! They're a Japanese trad outfit so they've been on my radar for a while.

Oh shit speaking of Japanese trad, I should probably get back on that. Haven't made any progress with it since the last Anthem record I checked out

>>128197211
yep! the guy's a living encyclopedia of metal music and he's been going at it for over 40 years now. but if you've never heard anything from his bands, I'd say you should first listen to The Dwelling by Sabbat. 60 minute tour de force with heavy Mercyful Fate and Flower Travellin Band vibes. packed to the brim with insane riffing and leads.
>>128197256
Flower Travellin Band are a must, especially the album Satori. they might have been the first Japanese metal band and are revered. also check out Ningen Isu. their discography is long as fuck, I got into them through their 1998 album Taihai Geijutsu Ten.

>>128197320
>Flower Travellin Band are a must, especially the album Satori.
Already very familiar with that record, everything on it is fantastic except for track 4. (That same droning harmonica beat drove me fucking insane.)

>>128197348
this is why I tapped out of exploring Japanese psych. there's so much of it that it should be fascinating, but it usually takes the most annoying elements from vintage psych and acid.

>>128193368
Enforcer

>>128197386
It sucks because if that song did not exist that'd be one of my favorite albums. I love how fucking ominous it sounds, 'specially track 5. (In the mid-portion of the song where it gets all spacey I like to imagine myself wandering a desert at night. It creates a really cool effect.)

>>128197407
a lot of those pioneering musicians had no idea what it was that they had or why it was game-changing. even Iommi thought he's still playing hard rock while writing songs like Supernaut, so with albums like Satori I just give them a credit of doubt and don't let that stuff get to me. but it's understandable of course why you wouldn't.

>>128197595
>even Iommi thought he's still playing hard rock while writing songs like Supernaut
True, and Ozzy just straight up thought metal was a stupid term iirc. I think Iommi came around to it after a while, though.
>so with albums like Satori I just give them a credit of doubt and don't let that stuff get to me. but it's understandable of course why you wouldn't.
Fair enough. I put the time into context when listening to stuff but I do have my limits lol.

>>128193368
>Enforcer
Yes but not this album. Diamonds is a masterpiece and From Beyond is Great too
>Cauldron
First few albums are nothing special but In Ruin and New Gods are great
>Ambush
First album is good the rest sucks
>Striker
Pass, could never get into them
Never even heard of the shit on the bottom row. For good modern trad I recommend:
Angel Sword
Iron Spell
Eternal Champion
Throne of Iron
Aardvark
Sabire
Flight
High Spirits
Freeways
Sumerlands
Tower
Smoulder
Blood Star
Sign of the Jackal
Satan's Hallow
Gygax

>>128197807
>I think Iommi came around to it after a while, though.
Lemmy yielded in the end too. until very late into his life he never brought up metal except to deny he had anything to do with it. so that was actually surprising. btw, I've been spinning Overkill again after a long break - fucking perfect album. definitely their best.
>>128197842
I like Sabire but they're hard to recommend since that stuff is pretty much modern hair metal (it's good, but still). also, Scarlett has been reviewing his own albums on MA, lmao

Book-ended by two really good songs, the rest of the record is pretty good too. Check it out, the sound here is similar to Loudness, Anthem, and mid '80s Priest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb6AyOIdkLk

>>128198171
it'll have to wait until after my errands tomorrow, but I'll chime in with some impressions. signing out now o7

>>128198266
See ya m8

>>128197194
how was Omen live

>>128200037
Looked into them, apparently they're some weird amalgamation of psych rock, trad and black metal. They any good or are they just a gimmick band?

Peace out bros, have some '70s Thin Lizzy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZHej4vX6ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rby6u-KCwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm3GgVE7OBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX7DTNc3hPw

One of my absolute favourite Queensrÿche songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_0-6fBxz74

>>128197842
>Sabire
You mean Sabïre? I saw them live this summer. They had two women with very little clothing and whips on stage. Sounded pretty W.A.S.P-ish.

>>128205722
why do people always compare Sabïre to WASP? Is something wrong with my ears? I think they sound more like Motörhead than any other band. Is it because of the way the singer looks?

>Cellador
>Cellar Door

>>128198171
it turns out my craptop is too fried to play this without garbling the guitars beyond recognition. I'll try to dl this later and report back after playing it on something else.
>>128199484
good enough that I immediately sought out another date. a minor gripe is they're very conservative with their setlists. both times I've seen them they almost exclusively played stuff from the first 2 albums. I think only 2 songs from The Curse and 1 newer song (Evil Seductress). nothing whatsoever from Hammer Damage which I've become a big fan of :(
strictly performance wise - killer, exactly what you want from an Omen show.
>>128200091
meme band
>>128206081
it's been years since I last listened to them but Gates Ajar gave me strong WASP vibes as well.

>>128207732
>it turns out my craptop is too fried to play this without garbling the guitars beyond recognition. I'll try to dl this later and report back after playing it on something else.
RIP. It's a good album that you should check out, I think you'd like it. Plenty of variety from speeders to catchy glam-y tunes.

https://youtu.be/ClUB7_8xjEw?t=67

This part with the harmonized guitars is so beautiful. It's almost like it's not a metal band. Metallica occasionally had such parts too in the 80s.

What are you guys blasting this afternoon?

>>128209604

Some good old HammerFall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sImZRQV8Ynw

>>128209604
not sure how /trad/ this really is... but it was a pleasant surprise. i like it way more than i expected

>>128209604
Nothing. I grew up and stopped caring about music.

>>128208149
ok, things managed to work out after all, once I'm done with this Voivod album it's coming on next.
>>128209604
Voivod - The Outer Limits

>>128209687
I still gotta listen to those guys sometime. I have Glory to the Brave and Legacy of Kings in my library but that's it

>>128209822
>ok, things managed to work out after all, once I'm done with this Voivod album it's coming on next.
Hell yeah, afterwards if you want some more Jap metal definitely check out Anthem - Hunting Time, it's one of the best albums I've heard from the scene so far
>Voivod - The Outer Limits
I remember listening to Killing Technology some months ago and just thinking it was base-line good. Is that one any better?

>ARCANA AWAITS
>EXODUS ASCEND THE PLANE
>EXILE THIS MEDIUM OF BONDAGE FAR BEYOND THE
>THE PROPHECY OF TYRANT GUARDIANS
>TRAJECT THE ESOTERIC THEY ARE MYTHICAL
>ARCANA AWAITS YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>128209863
>definitely check out Anthem - Hunting Time, it's one of the best albums I've heard from the scene so far
will do, I have an embarrassing backlog of Japanese bands to try out so a nudge is very helpful
>I remember listening to Killing Technology some months ago and just thinking it was base-line good. Is that one any better?
hard to say, imo Killing Technology is one of their best but it's a grower and some people never get to like that one. The Outer Limits is closer to prog/heavy metal but using techniques inherited from speed and thrash. the caveat is that it's also the endpoint of a 7-album evolution, so it would be like randomly checking out Seventh Son after having just discovered Killers.
if you want to get a general feel for Voivod without doing a deep delve I'd say Dimension Hatross is the best one

>>128210231
>will do, I have an embarrassing backlog of Japanese bands to try out so a nudge is very helpful
In that case, you should definitely try out Mari Hamada's first two records from 1983. She was one of the earlier ones on the scene and Romantic Night in particular is a great fucking record.
>hard to say, imo Killing Technology is one of their best but it's a grower and some people never get to like that one.
I did only listen to it once, and aside from that I also remember listening to Voivod's first record (wasn't that one '84?) and liking it.
>The Outer Limits is closer to prog/heavy metal but using techniques inherited from speed and thrash. the caveat is that it's also the endpoint of a 7-album evolution, so it would be like randomly checking out Seventh Son after having just discovered Killers.
Funnily enough I think I started with Piece of Mind and Powerslave lol, it took a bit for me to get to the other albums and it wasn't until way later that I listened to Seventh Son.
>if you want to get a general feel for Voivod without doing a deep delve I'd say Dimension Hatross is the best one
I'll download that album and give it a shot later. Thanks for the rec m8

>>128210380
>try out Mari Hamada's first two records from 1983
thanks, first time I hear about her, I'll download all this stuff on Sunday and set the evening aside for Japanese stuff.
>Voivod's first record (wasn't that one '84?)
yep! one of the riffs from that one was famously stolen by Mayhem.
>Funnily enough I think I started with Piece of Mind and Powerslave lol
it was Powerslave for me too, that's why I like the idea of going straight for the middle of a run to get a general feel of a band. nothing beats going blind through a classic 4+ album arc chronologically though.

I'm really liking this Reaction LP. the first song is actually my least favorite so far (I'm on the fourth), something about the timings felt awkward, but it's only my first listen. the next ones are nicely structured with a good balance of business and restraint. this one will need a few more spins.

Mercyful Fate - House of Satan
https://www.mediafire.com/file/266skgfcxnsd26n/mercyful+fate+-+house+of+satan.zip/file

ultra rare stuff leaked & bootlegged by the guy who used to run their fanclub. some of these recordings can't be found anywhere else. save this one for Halloween.

>>128210827
>yep! one of the riffs from that one was famously stolen by Mayhem.
What riff in particular? I have trouble remembering thrash sometimes lol
>it was Powerslave for me too, that's why I like the idea of going straight for the middle of a run to get a general feel of a band. nothing beats going blind through a classic 4+ album arc chronologically though.
I usually start out with a first album when checking out unknown bands, but for ones I know about I usually spring for the 3rd or 4th album (if there is one)
>I'm really liking this Reaction LP. the first song is actually my least favorite so far (I'm on the fourth), something about the timings felt awkward, but it's only my first listen. the next ones are nicely structured with a good balance of business and restraint. this one will need a few more spins.
I'm glad you like it! I've definitely heard better from the Japanese scene but that was a solid release.

>>128211161
What's the time frame for these, early-mid '80s?

DON'T BURN THE WITCH! \\m//
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iI_1Iv8RW0

All glowie freemason cunts is my conclusion. What do the freemasons offer though? You do know their 'theories' are bullshit?

You think some retarded followers of a secret society know all of the truth of the world? Sucks to be you then :)

>>128211260
>What riff in particular? I have trouble remembering thrash sometimes lol
...fuck, I don't remember. Black City or Nuclear War. it's been too long since I listened to the debut. how embarrassing lol
>What's the time frame for these, early-mid '80s?
1981 or early 1982 at the latest for the demo tracks. the working titles would place them in 1981, maybe before the Burning the Cross demo, but I can't say for sure. the live recording is from 1981.

How many more will we lose before this year is over?

>>128212007
>...fuck, I don't remember. Black City or Nuclear War. it's been too long since I listened to the debut. how embarrassing lol
I'll have to listen to that one again, it's been a while
>1981 or early 1982 at the latest for the demo tracks. the working titles would place them in 1981, maybe before the Burning the Cross demo, but I can't say for sure. the live recording is from 1981.
Sounds dope. I'll probably throw that in with the rest of the Halloween-y stuff I'm listening to once Thursday comes around.

>>128212014
Tomas Lindberg's death shook me the most... RIP.

>>128212208
>I'll have to listen to that one again, it's been a while
listen to Dimension Hatross first. or Bathory's Hammerheart and then Dimension Hatross, you'll see why I made this suggestion :D

>>128212293
>or Bathory's Hammerheart and then Dimension Hatross, you'll see why I made this suggestion :D
Hmm... I like Bathory well enough but black metal isn't something I listen to often. I think I'll wind up listening to Dimension Hatross later tonight, though.

>>128212318
I wouldn't call Hammerheart black metal at all, it's epic power/doom with an outsized influence on later bands. definitely relevant to what we talk about in here.

btw, did you catch Scald's comeback album from last year? good stuff.

>>128212657
>I wouldn't call Hammerheart black metal at all, it's epic power/doom with an outsized influence on later bands. definitely relevant to what we talk about in here.
Ah, then maybe I'll check it out soon. Not really in the mood to listen to anything else right now but I'll download it and set it aside for Sunday.
>btw, did you catch Scald's comeback album from last year? good stuff.
Never heard of 'em. I'm still relatively new to doom metal and haven't gotten past the early '90s yet.

>>128212712
>Ah, then maybe I'll check it out soon. Not really in the mood to listen to anything else right now but I'll download it and set it aside for Sunday.
you're going to have a field day with this one. not saying anything else about it, looking forward to your impressions :)
>Never heard of 'em. I'm still relatively new to doom metal and haven't gotten past the early '90s yet.
ah, all right. Scald's first album is something of a classic in modern epic doom and definitely worth your time.

>>128213274
>you're going to have a field day with this one. not saying anything else about it, looking forward to your impressions :)
Just downloaded the album and will listen to it when I make the new thread (very interested to hear how different it is from the '80s stuff I've heard desu)
>ah, all right. Scald's first album is something of a classic in modern epic doom and definitely worth your time.
Noted, I'll snag it and put it in the backlog. See ya' in a few days anon

>>128213444
see you around anon o7

>>128212014
We all got to go sometime.
>>128212253
There's a 27 page remembrance special about him in the latest Sweden Rock Magazine that arrived yesterday.

saving this thread

AT THE HEADLESS CROOOOSS

LISTEN TO THE WIND, HEAR THE GOSPEL BLOW
TELLMETHATYOUDON'THEARWHATI'MHEARING
AND I WILL LET YOU GOOOO

>>128219025
>>128220824
>Headless Cross
>Cross Purposes

Did they really have to use the word "cross" in two album titles within five years?

wonderful ballad. this album is a real gem
https://youtu.be/6k3C0p2lnqA?si=ww3n60skE8U9Eozw

>>128223110
on second thought idk if it counts as a ballad but whatever. shit rocks.

>>128223128
nah this ain't a ballad, pretty good song though

actually... the more that i listen to it, it's like a weird blend between an epic and a ballad

>>128223217
Maybe. Got the mood and a few slower sections of a ballad but also some bombastic moments

Mercyful Fate - Live in Den Bosch, Netherlands (22-02-1983)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mwpm8eepjxrqyjb/Mercyful_Fate_-_02-22-83_-_Live_in_Den_Bosch%252C_Netherlands.zip/file

last one for the road - let's send this thread off with some more live Fate.

>>128223718
Hell yeah, surprised to see that there's some Don't Break the Oath tracks in here desu

>>128223740
King announces At the Sound of the Demon Bell as the song you might not have heard yet too.:D

>>128223766
Shit, I think I'm gonna go listen to this... which also means I have to make the next thread now instead of tomorrow. :P

>>128223780
go for it lol. I love this recording, they had killer energy that night and King's on fire. pretty good sound too. just dirty enough for a show like this.

>>128223766
Damn, I think I'm gonna listen to it lol

>>128223825
too late, I saw that lol. if you're going to make the next thread tomorrow that actually works out for me, I'll be heading out in a short while.

>>128223869
>too late, I saw that lol.
Yeah I waited too long, oops
>if you're going to make the next thread tomorrow that actually works out for me, I'll be heading out in a short while.
I'll take that route, 'cause besides the Mercyful live show I don't think I'll be listening to anything else today.

>>128223920
all right, I'm gonna go get ready then. enjoy the show and see ya in the new edition.

>>128223945
Will do, see ya!

>>128211422
I remember you posted this pic before in a /metal/ thread.
>>>/int/216190261
Where someone was dedicating a post to you, and you replied with that pic. That's you, isn't it catransister?