Thread 128152911

Kendrick Lamar trucks in apotheoses. Showmanship. Thaumaturgy. Bluster. Hyperrealism. Mythos. Documentary. To Pimp A Butterfly stirs those modes together to on an album—light on samples, rich in gilt rococo G-Funk—that’s isn’t wholly unimpeachable but at its high points verges on unapproachable. By “unapproachable” I mean in the sense of “being without serious competition.” If you come for the King [Kunta], etc. etc.

Ten years since this album carved a niche for itself in the zeitgeist, its power as a picture of the times hasn’t diminished, nor has its thematic contents waned in the Year of [Oh] Lord 2025. Considering the arc of songs like “The Blacker The Berry,” though, maybe it would be nicer if the trauma, losses, and cruelties TPAB catalogs were less legible with age.

Nonetheless. I don’t feel I have much new to add that hasn’t been covered by other reviewers. I will note that the transition between “u” and “Alright” feels more deliberate and dramatic now than the impressions I clocked in the moment as a shy college senior. So it goes. Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis, as we pin on Ovid.

It should also be noted, despite Uncle Sam’s promise on “Wesley’s Theory,” Kendrick hasn’t been “Wesley [Sniped]” before 35. As of writing, he’s 38 and ongoing. And Uncle Sam is still sweating the truths Lamar spits as bullets regarding all the riches Black people have made for this whitewashed concern of ours. Some things never change, yet.

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>>128152911 (OP)
Music for self-hating white people

>>128152911 (OP)
Still don't understand why people ride this album's dick so hard.

>>128153224
Kek me in 2015. All it took to snap me out of it was a video of some Asian dudes in a street interview talking about how white people shouldn’t be so guilty about stuff we didn’t do.
We’re too damn self critical as a race. No point in whipping ourselves if the browns don’t do it to themselves as well.

>>128152911 (OP)
Most overrated pile of shit I've ever listened, it's lacks anything memorable, barren in melody, lacks good hooks, having zero replay value, being in relatity an 1.5 hour long mumbling of a nigger with an obnoxious voice, whining about things irrelevant to 2/3 of the earth's population. An industry plant album, bandwagoned by music media attempting to force rap to the center of music, and by an ignorant easily swayed/impressed youth, with no knowledge of music outside, lil pump, and his ilk, as well as by self-hating, low-iq wiggers. it's lowbrow nature appeal to the masses is understandable.

>>128152911 (OP)
Most overrated pile of shit I've ever listened, it lacks memorable hooks, barren in melody, having zero replay value, to justify it's almost 1.5 hour long run, consisting of the mumbling of a nigger with an obnoxious voice, whining about things irrelevant to over 2/3 of the earth's population. An industry plant album, bandwagoned by music media attempting to force rap to the center of music, and by an ignorant easily swayed/impressed youth, with no knowledge of music other than lil pump and his ilk, as well as by self-hating/low-iq wiggers. it's lowbrow nature appeal to the masses is understandable, and the biggest reason, along with shilling from music publications, for it's success.

>>128152911 (OP)
Most overrated pile of shit I've ever listened, it lacks memorable hooks, barren in melody, having virtually zero replay value, to justify it's almost 1.5 hour long run, consisting of the mumbling of a nigger with an obnoxious voice, whining about things irrelevant to over 2/3 of the earth's population. An industry plant album, bandwagoned by music media attempting to force rap to the center of music, and by an ignorant easily swayed/impressed youth, with no knowledge of music other than lil pump and his ilk, as well as by self-hating/low-iq wiggers. it's lowbrow nature appeal to the masses is understandable, and the biggest reason, along with shilling from music publications, for it's success, who uses rating it a 10/10 as a rite of passage, to pretend they have "good taste/valid opinions" rather than how enjoyable it was. It's lyrics, far from groundbreaking, or having literary merit, are lauded for it's pandering for a minority.

>>128155103
Weird how we’re supposed to collectively feel guilt for the past but no pride for the accomplishments.

>>128155566
Checked and Whitepowerpilled

>>128155566
>but no pride for the accomplishments.

You little-dick timmies stole all your "accomplishments" from China India and Africa

>>128155868
HahahHhHahHahahhahahahahahaha

>>128155868
WE.
WUZ.
KANGZ.

>>128152911 (OP)
t. Fantano

>>128152911 (OP)
kendrick was the 2nd worst thing to happen to music, 1st was rap and poptimism.

>>128152911 (OP)
Ah yes, the pop album which is the highest rated album of all time

>>128153224
Damn right. Seems like White people are starting to wake up though finally

>>128161759
Whoops meant for >>128155103

>>128155868
We don’t need input from your kind.

>>128155566
>>but no pride for the accomplishments.

>You little-dick timmies stole all your "accomplishments" from China India and Africa

The # 1 rated album.

>>128161840
>AOTY ranking

This album makes whites and boomers seethe.

>>128161840
>>128161860
Honestly, its unbelievable that GKMC is also, in the top 5 on both sites.

>>128161883
I don't remember GKMC ever being top 5. I think it was like top 30. I know Zoomers love him, but sometimes I wonder if Kendrick or someone on his team is botting these websites.

>>128161923
Don't need bots when you have self hating whites and millions of browns

>>128161811
It's probably an Indian

>>128161923
There are thousands of fake accounts, that exist solely to rate them 100, then go dormant, it's a raid. The fact rap is the most mainstream genre also helps, along with the constant shilling by music publications, attempting to shoehorn kendrick/rap albums into "greatest classics" for moral grandstanding/virtue signaling, and pretty much any other reason, other than it's musical merit, how "convenient" that the 1st and 3rd albums are by the same artist. The vast majority of rap fans are dumb, easily conned/swayed, they only know about pink floyd, radiohead, the Beatles, plus cRap, that's why lesser known artists have barely any albums amongst the top 200, and why so many of them are so recent. People's stupidity becomes clear in lists of greatest "any nationality" when people rank Kim Kardashian, above historical figures like Henry Ford/Thomas Edison etc... it's the same effect.
>>128161860
I'm latino, old gen z, and I despise kendrick and his retarded fans, both are scum, they're worse than swifties, the only reason Taylor Swift's albums aren't also ranked among the "GOAT" is that her fans don't hang out on music rating sites as much, and there are enough people who dislike her among "music nerds", not to mention there's no "racism connotation" to giving them a low score.

>>128152911 (OP)
Imagine rapping your little review.

>>128152911 (OP)
He's a massive tool like carson daily and game and all other industry plants like drake. Huge illusion going on. It's - assumed authenticate. Listen to his verse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZ3Ghq4iJU

We dont' all see this the same. Something is going to die because of the pretension but really, because it's proped up and oversaturated. These people say too damn much.

>>128152911 (OP)
Dre picks people based off their voice tonality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyklttqjDTs

Flying_Grandma69 Oct 17 2025
One of the best best albums ever
Kendrick is such a great artist!! He’s very very VERY talented and this album is about friendship, loss, and the good life. This is a 11/10 and I would definitely recommend to someone who wants to get into rap.

>>128152911 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkOQe7hxmhU

Stop pretending like rap isn't complete hilarious trash.

yunoburger Sep 10 2025
Greatest
A genuine masterpiece. This is real rap and it's real truths Kendrick tells. I first listened to this album years ago and it only ages like fine wine. Some other albums have many songs with great lyrics but aren't interesting to listen to. This album is beautiful both lyrically and musically.

chetanncasm Jul 19 2025
epitome of rap
This album is the sole reason i personaly got into more rap and hip-hop genre of music, and this artist aswel. Now, i am not a music critique and have not explored much of music itself so it is thereby my personal review only, but i must say that this album has been my top 10's of all time, thank you.

DaZmian Jul 15 2025
Arguably the best album OAT
The first time I listened to this my reaction was like “This is weird”. Now, I consider this to be a masterpiece. It completely deserves to be in the argument for the best album OAT, let alone for the best Hip-Hop album of all time!
Beats: 5/5
The album blends rap with jazz in a way no other rap album has ever done. The G-Funk on Wesley’s Theory is also beautiful. This album has some of the best beats OAT, no question. If you like west-coast rap and jazz-rap, you will love this.
Lyrics: 5/5
This album mostly talks about the lives of black people in the US. I honestly love the concept, especially when the delivery is top-tier. There are simply sooo many layers to these songs, there is surely something you have missed in your first listen. Examples:
1: Kendrick refers to the devil (Lucifer) as “Lucy”.
2: In the track “How Much A Dollar Cost” Kendrick uses the homeless man as a metaphor, but talks about him as if he was real.
3: In “I” and “U” he impersonates someone that appreciates himself and someone that despises himself.
4: The interview at the end is an interview with 2Pac that took pieces of 2Pac’s interviews and put them together to make it sound like 2Pac is actually talking to Kendrick. There are many more examples I could make.
Features: 5/5
How can’t you love these features? From Rapsody to George Clinton, the list is not really stacked, but the people that are on this record all have at least good features. It’s difficult to choose a “best feature”, are there are at least 3 5/5 feature, but in my opinion, the best feature is Thundercat’s feature, it’s just perfect when combined with George Clinton’s one.
Final rating: 5/5
Though not for complete beginners, a masterpiece. In my opinion the best Hip-Hop album of all time, maybe even the best album of all time.

"gonna play that at my wedding."

Fat ass twenty year old white woman with mulato kid in the backseat. And guess what's worse that's your new boss

>>128161790
You do. You need to be kept in check lest you become retarded right wing extremists. Kendrick sucks btw.

>>128162707
Look at this nigga for example. He's never listened to rap in his life yet has been groomed by the CIA to post anti rap discourse in 4chan all day because "le great replacement".

Donaldba Mar 28 2025
#1
Genuinely the greatest expirience my ears have or will ever get to expirience, and I want nothing more than for you to expirience it too, please do yourself tha favour. (you wont regret it)

>>128162743
i've been listening to rap since before you became sperm

reddeeemer Mar 28 2025
been using this site since the top albums list had okc as #1 and I'm very happy that this album has finally surpassed it.

this album will last the test of time and will continue to grow better with age, as it has for the last ten years. because people are actually living the lyrics.

this record is about people that actually exist.

framesourcegravity Feb 26 2025
think of it like this ...
you could take out all of kendrick's vocals and this would still be one of the greatest albums ever.

charlesizcool Feb 25 2025
Say it with me. M A S T E R P I E C E. Masterpiece!
You just have to listen to the album yourself, and people who don't open the lyrics and see what the songs are trying to explain or tell probably would rate it a 4.5 still because the songs itself holds such a great impact too, not only the lyricism and it's one of the best concept albums of all time, if not the best.

>>128162766
Then that first reply is a little bit strange.

spamming doesn't make for a strong argument. We don't need any more corporate rap. Master P proved this a long time ago.

>>128162768
American culture is centered around _______

Jamilton Feb 14 2025
The greatest rap album oat
This album is the closest musical piece of art that man has gotten to perfection in this genre, decades will go on, maybe even generations until something touches Tpab. The tracklist starts off with Kendrick falling vulnerable to things constantly, needing help almost, it is extremely in depth and this is a review so I won’t fully go through it, he then proceeds to lead to ending is life in a hotel room destroying that old self basically cocooning into this butterfly (hints the name) then it leads to excellence in emotional storytelling and lyricism throughout the rest of the album as it had done through the first few songs sharing his opinion loud and clear with a song for every single emotion, he then ends it all as a poem explaining it all. As well as the connections to Good Kid m.A.A.d city with these walls where he was having intercourse with the significant other of the person who murdered his friend, this is so emotionally deep it would take hours to go into it. Overall there is not one moment where a song from Tpab would not fit and I’m sure it will be a lasting album for hundreds of years.

>>128162807
It's straight up very amusing and always has been and everyone knows this including most artist. Friday was a comedy for a reason.

pheonite Dec 10 2024
it is perfect
i hate this album because this was like the 3rd hip hop album i ever listened to and now nothing feels as good as this is, on a real note, holy guacamole the beats are so good and funky and mmmm and delicious and yummy(i know i'm great with reviews) and the rapping is like lyrical enough to where you can come back every time and understand smth new about it, the flow is pretty much perfect throughout the whole album, the message is uplifting and nice and makes me want to do something with my life, love you kenny

>>128162743
No, just like how blacks won’t listen to whites, we won’t listen to you.

>>128162980
You don't represent the white race. You're just a resentful chud.

>>128162743
>groomed by the CIA
This is the funniest nigger cope I think

>>128155566
what accomplishments

>>128163161
that computer you're typing on

the software that drives it

the internet & nearly all web applications

recorded music

motion pictures

tv

radio

camera

telephone

light bulb

the automobile

rocketry

satellites

spacecraft

airplanes

skyscrapers

telescope

printing press

eyeglasses

contact lenses

microwave oven

metallurgy (most discoveries)

materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)

95% of medical advancements

95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs

modern food preservatives

most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years

the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology

astronomy (most discoveries and mapping techniques)

sea navigation (most advancements)

discovery of DNA

microscope

laser technology and it's myriad of uses

harnessing electricity

nuclear energy

wireless technology

air conditioning devices

refrigeration

modern agricultural techniques

modern democracy

all meaningful philosophy and literature

nuclear science

Know your place, turdskin.

>>128152911 (OP)
I don't trust /mu/'s opinion on rap, I've seen people here claiming the last Lil Wayne album was good (or any of his projects from the last 15 years for that matter)
The standard for "good hip-hop" here is mainstream trap stuff like Young Thug and Future, while every other rapper that offers something different gets diminished for no reason

>>128161860
>Stevie Wonder
>no Radiohead albums in the Top 3
based AOTY

>>128163155
You're probably so retarded that you think politicians care about you and have even prayed to the president once or twice.

>>128163183
Highly nukeable post with lots of fake info.

>>128163183
all that stuff is jewish lol
jews aren't white

>>128152911 (OP)
Its okay, in fact in my opinion its his last good album, but holy fuck its overrated and overglazed by white guys. This is by far the whitest album i have ever heard. No black guys I know ever listen or even like Kendrick as a rapper.

>>128163214
>You're probably so retarded that you think politicians care about you and have even prayed to the president once or twice.
Wrong.
>Highly nukeable post with lots of fake info.
Not at all no, even if the jannies delete it how does that disprove anything? I just wish your people would recognize all that White people have done and quit being so bitter that we put you in your place a couple dozen years ago

>>128163257
Whiteboys like you haven't done shit in their lives; what's more, you're all NEETs autistically screeching about "le glorious past" on the internet day in day out because you can't create shit, not even a rap song. Nigga, you're a virgin; bitch please.

>>128163293
Pipe down before you get lashed, Buck
>Nigga, you're a virgin; bitch please
Now I feel like you're a white larper lmao

>>128163333
checked!

>>128163232
Jews are parasites, claiming our achievements lmao

i'm so glad that kendrick lamar is going to live in africa, he is building a community in africa with other like-minded africans and going to be super duper african and proud! cool!

>>128163353
List 3 achievements you've gotten in your life.

>>128155868
lol

>>128163456
What have you achieved in the last 10 years, personally? I finished my degree, got into a masters programme, lost my virginity and bought a lot rare vinyl records with the disposable income I get from being an elite translator (speak 5 languages). And you?
t. minority

>>128163503
>checks gold price
good luck lol

>>128163522
lol? lol

>>128163503
Good for you, but those are relatively normie things and doesn't change the topic at hand that your race hasn't really done shit collectively

>>128163543
>city dwelling minorities get to cannibalize urbanite crackers before starving to death
oh noooo, so sad ;_;

>>128163545
But what have white supremacists done individually for themselves or their race? Absolutely nothing I bet.

>>128163503
Did you tell the whore you lost your v-card to that you were an 'elite translator'?

>>128163581
No, because I was 18 by that time and I only spoke 2 languages by then. I also was only starting my degree back then. Good times.

>>128163580
The idea that far-righters are all failsons or whatever is really just a cope, most are ordinary uninteresting people going to uni or working a job with a gf, comparative to 98% brown migrants that live off gibs

>>128163618
Nice cope.
Still no listing of achievements by a white supremacist. American History X was right (and the soundtrack to the movie by Popol Vuh was amazing).

Only RYM psy oppers pretend to give a fuck about it

>>128161811
You quoted the wrong anon, no?

>>128163948
meanwhile real rap knowers like us be bumping Take Care, Scorpion and Views

>>128163849
Fuck sorry I forgot I'm talking to a minority who is an elite translator AND lost his virginity
>American History X was right
>My hollywood movie was right about you!!!!!!

>>128164479
Trueeee.
achievement list when

>>128164540
I'm only 19 but went to high school at a private catholic school and got a full-tuition scholarship to Uni for Physics. Bilingual in French and English, and well-read + 6"1 w/ blue eyes. Other small stuff I'm forgetting like experiences and whatnot but trying not to make this bloated

>>128164669
>I'm only 19
Basically could only have academic or athletic achievements
>full-tuition scholarship to Uni for Physics
Fair enough
>Bilingual in French and English
Fair enough
>well read
Evidently fake
>6'1'' w/ blue eyes
not even an achievement
So, basically, you got a scholarship and supposedly are fluent in french. Meaning, you're like 50% of people in a decent country but are a white supremacist. XD

It's fucking trash. Go murder a podcaster. That's what you zoomers seem to be most interested in

>>128152911 (OP)
Go vote for a Muslim. Don't be racist!!!! Fucking idiots and their retarded kids.

>>128163543
>nigger too stupid to understand economics
DEI in action

>>128164714
>>6'1'' w/ blue eyes
>not even an achievement
That means I was chosen by God thoughever
But fr I never really said I was a White supremist, I was just saying people should recognize that White people have, in the overwhelming majority, built the modern western world and that we should be allowed to be proud of that. Also, most 19 year olds are neeting and smoking weed everyday so I'm chilling

>>128162804
Once I saw a comment that read "it feels unfair to other music that this album exists" and "the first time I listened to this album, I already knew I had listened to the greatest album of all time" etc..
I'm not kidding, Kendrick fans are the most obnoxious, smug, pieces of shit on the planet, they're so insufferable and ignorant, they make k-pop stans look like reasonable well-adjusted people.

>>128165258
>they're obnoxious because I disagree with them

>>128165856
No, because they're braindead borgs with no thoughts of their own, only parroting whatever fantano/the majority says. they're the crowd in the "the emperor's new clothes" tale, conformists, pretentious music snobs, who in their idiocy, believe agreeing with an artificially created consensus, makes them "special/cultured". These are the kind of imbeciles authoritarian governments are fond of, ready to do anything, if that's what it takes to be the "upstanding citizen/critic". kendrick fans are like a plague of locusts, ruining whatever place they pass by. Rap at this point is no different from pop, kendrick and his crap is no different from taylor swift's, in fact, is arguably worse.

>>128165856
Do you actually believe TPAB is the greatest album of all time across all genres? That seems delusional at best