Thread 128281640

Do you believe the conspiracy theory that rap is promoted by the government to destabilize the black community?

you should kill yourself

>>128281653
Thanks for the bump!

>>128281668
bumps don't matter if they are already on page 1 newfag

>>128281686
>he doesn't browse by catalog
What level of newfaggotry is this?

I think any group who never went through the growing pains of civilization-development will have their worst impulses rewarded in a libertine society no longer managed by the people who built it.

>>128281640 (OP)
Niggas do that themselves on their own already.

>>128281707
This.

Yup, this fully confirms my suspicion hip hop is CIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD49vdreggw

>>128281640 (OP)
Can they just not take any responsibility for themselves at all?

Rap is evil.

China bans rap for a reason.

The move from orchestras to MPCs was one of the worst atrocities against the arts, and the human spirit.

>>128282432
Jazz mogs classical and it's more pleasing to the ear

>>128282656
for as much as people want to be all niggerbad and whatever, actual blacks responded similarly to white people about this

>>128281640 (OP)
>>128282388
Kpop won
Zoomers won
Coked up millennials black lovers lost

>>128282656
>hotdog the drug addict

>>128281707
I like this theory and will subscribe to it.

>>128282432
These bug men are just performing music written by Germans and Italians who lived in capitalist societies.also, every major city in Europe and North America has at least one orchestra.

>>128281640 (OP)
it's easier to control people whose cultural products emphasise materialism and anti-social/self-destructive behaviour

>>128281640 (OP)
while its true that I fucking hate niggers, I also believe that you should just kill any enemies you have, or even anyone that mildly inconvenienced you

>>128281702
Yeah I have always thought people were retarded talking about pages, if you don't enter a board and go straight to the catalog what are you even doing? Scrolling pages like a newspaper ?

>>128281640 (OP)
No. But could black music have been reappropriated and used against the community? Possibly.

Sort of. It's "the jews", not "the government" though.

>>128283322
you misread OPs post

>>128282552
NTA and I just saw this comment randomly and got the want to say: jazz hurts my ears, at least bebop.

>>128282773
I remember that thread fondly

>>128281640 (OP)
>muh CIA
It’s capitalism, we live in a society that puts profit above morals, degeneracy sells, hence rap, onlyfans, true crime, drugs etc etc etc. it’s all about money, if you want to fix it you need to create a system were morals come before money which is never going to happen in America

>>128281640 (OP)

No. This is a cope for people like Aaron McGruder, who refuse to take the I.Q. pill.

>>128284314

>TFW refuse to take the I.Q. pill so hard you become commie.

There aren't enough helicopters in the world.

>>128281640 (OP)
No

This guy is fat and looks like shit now

>>128284670
He uglied himself up on purpose to keep from getting raped all the time.

Nigger rap culture is for the stupid and its biggest nigger critic Charleston White is a nasty old man.

>disable the black community
>disable society
ftfy

>>128281640 (OP)
no but Jay-Z is absolutely an evil reptiloid motherfucker. he just looks wrong i can tell thats a skin suit

>>128282703
dont tell me you think it's black people on /r/chiraqology

>>128284613
>thinks the only alternative to capitalism is communism
You need to take your IQ pills retard

>>128285718
contrary to reddit memes there are a lot of actual chiraq niggas on chiraqology
there's even a dude that got in a shootout with (now lifed off) rapper lil fatz for stealing his cousin's gun

>>128284948
>>128285564
https://youtu.be/jpLfgwFa-Jw?si=Iprc1waPPCyIsx7x

>>128283228
Looks like youre a dumb evil nigger

>>128286722
https://youtu.be/pQXTWUcKqKo?si=yDbqHr4CbdxjB9px

>>128284602
IQ is pseudoscientific trash and you can’t argue

>>128281640 (OP)
Yes.

>>128281640 (OP)
Of course it is. Blacks used to be civilized.

>>128282552
Wrong and wrong.

>>128281640 (OP)
So it seems. So it seems

>>128288644
Name one better metric.

>>128281640 (OP)
Theres this shitty rap review channel on youtube with a bunch of black boomers who did a video on this conspiracy once and they ate it up because it allows them to put the blame on someone else. But then in another video a viewer asked them if hiphop was a key reason black folks had to struggle in life and they all got pissed off about it. Like which is it?

>>128291765
For them? It's both, they only believe or deny things based on how it makes them feel
>the Gov pushed rap to undermine us
>therefore our behavior is not our fault
>we would be great if it weren't for them!
So they accept that rap and the fbi are to blame
>we suck cause we made rap
>nah foh we great
>it's you who sucks!
So they defend rap in order to defend theirselves. They are too stupid to accept that they are at fault for anything so they'll just keep making the same mistakes until the end of time.

>>128291765
The answer is niggers are stupid.

>>128291539
NTA. For what? "Intelligence"?

>>128283912
Wrong. It's both.

>>128284314
When politicians refer to our country as "The American Experiment", they're not just talking about that exceptionalist bullshit. Our government and universities have been pioneers on psychological warfare and subtle sabotage for a century now. We out-Britished the British in terms of covert fuckery. Fuck James Bond and yes the govt alphabet soup is absolutely subtly manipulating media for the bidding of the global elite.

>>128281640 (OP)
Nah. It for sure wasn't invented, because before gangster shit, rap was fun party music and closely connected to DJ culture. Shit was positive and brought people together, with the ocassional outreach into social shit like The Message that was actively decrying how bad urban life can be rather than glorifying it.
For sure a lot of g-rappers are glowing though, and have been for the last twenty or so years.

>>128281957
>Caleb Maupin
SPANK!

>>128281640 (OP)
I misread that for a second thinking it said that rap was promoted to help the disabled black community.

>>128281640 (OP)
I think it's pretty obvious that the CIA promoted gangster rap at the same time they were flooding the streets with crack, and then passed California's 3 strike laws not long after to get slaves for their private prisons. The Clintons were involved in CIA coke smuggling, the 3 strikes law, and Adam 22 who promotes gangster rap beefs is the son and nephew of two Clinton cronies who were pardoned by Bill on his last day.

>>128281640 (OP)
>be rapper
>get blown away

I want to be clear on how I characterize this. These were mostly peaceful murders. They were not generally speaking unruly.

Do better, white people.

Is this the schizo containment thread?

>>128293258
Lol, okay

>>128293263
Yes dear. Everything's going to be ok, you're in the right place now.

test

>>128293090
>subtly
Not really...

>>128293258
What? And what is a peaceful murder?

>>128293379
>peaceful murder?
Nta, but a peaceful murders means it does not upset the status quo or the peace because it is considered an acceptable loss of life.

>>128281702
>>128283290
catalog was added in like 2009 so you're the actuall newfag

>>128282432
This image is quite literally: "the Civil Rights Movement was a mistake".

>>128281640 (OP)
Because Africa is so peaceful.

>>128293602
>16 years later I still haven't worked it out
Go back.

>>128293623
USAID promotes rap to Africa too.

>>128293586
>newspeak

>>128293623
Americans are Americans and you need to do more research on peace

>>128293734
>Educate yourself
Good one

>>128293804
Yeah, the most unpeaceful continent throughout world history is Europe not Africa

>>128293816
Right. If only every country was like Africa.

>>128293828
Africa isn’t a country

>>128293816
no retard we just have the best documentant wars because we value history.

>>128281640 (OP)
>Rap
Not music

>>128293816
Only in terms of number of wars. Not in terms of crime and social unrest, which is what OP is talking about.

>>128293860
War also requires cohesion and logistics of a highly advanced society.

>>128293863
This is unverifiable right now it would take a lot of research to find statistics to back up such claims. OP is talking about America not Africa anyway

>>128293869
No, it does not

>>128282656
>glizzy the tweaker was shit and killed

>>128293903
Yes it does.

>>128293898
>This is unverifiable right now
Because societies riddled with criminals and low trust are too unstable to record their crimes.

>>128281707
lol bro just say your racist. civilization has been ongoing for 60,000 years.

can you do that? No. You cant.

>>128294159
War has happened many times from not highly advanced societies and you are a fag

>>128294169
How can statistics tell us that a crime less utopian society is not in fact a crime ridden hell hole dystopian if the lack of crime as a statistic is an indicator for lack of statisticians which is an indicator of a dystopic society

>>128281640 (OP)
>conspiracy theory
It's not a theory when we have the receipts.

>>128281640 (OP)
>USAID gets gutted
>Rap dies in less than a year

Well...

>>128293258
I c wut u did thar

>>128281640 (OP)
Julio and Foolio hooked up. Need it or keep it?

>>128282656
>>128293929
the opps unalived him
rip to a real one

>>128294339
doesn't that go to foreign countries

>>128294446
kek, look at this fucking clown
these people are a joke

>>128294272
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant by bad societies being unable to record their crimes, I'm simply saying that being greatly hampered by low trust (corruption) and inability to organize against the rampant crime in their societies makes them less able to be correct with their crime statistics. A good society is distinguished from a bad one because it is more peaceful, well-ordered, and the people have nothing to fear as they go about their daily business, none of that is possible in a bad society, so when they record low crime it is not a matter of dishonesty/incompetence but fact.

>>128294637
Black America is a state within a state.

>>128281640 (OP)
No. It's promoted to destabilize the white community.
The black community does a good job of destabilizing itself without any help.

>>128281686
>page 1

>>128294692
No, I understand exactly what you’re saying and you should be able to tell that by my previous post. What I’m asking is how it’s proveable statistically by looking at statistics

>>128282703
>shoulda been robbin a job application

>>128294637
A lot of the money did but it apparently was also using the money for domestic operations after Obama made it legal for the government to fund and produce propaganda for domestic consumption again.

>>128294875
Nit him but you seem to be under the impression that there's no reliable information or statistics about the state of African countries (there is; homicide statistics are for example very easy to find), and are extrapolating that African crime is, until proven otherwise, not higher than in America/Europe (which is ridiculous).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://www.statista.com/chart/5369/murder-rates-across-the-world-visualised/
https://www.geocurrents.info/blog/tag/murder-rates-by-country/
Not to mention all the civil unrest, """rogue""" religious/political militias, etc, which we constantly read about in the news.

>>128282773
Hey, I made that joke!

Why are Amerifats so unusually prone to believing in conspiracy theories? Most cunts don't have that mindset.

Rap is working class music. Even if it was suppressed people would still listen to it because it is fun.

>>128295421
Don't you have to have a job to be working class?

>>128282773
>>128284238
>>128295353
I think about this shit at least once every two weeks and it makes me smile out of nowhere every time.

>>128295426
Their ladies seem to be "working that ass" quite a bit, which I guess is a necessity when they need to raise a family of 7 entirely by themselves.

>>128295333
wasted trips

You don’t understand the points made here >>128294272. It’s a thought exercise, you need to imagine a utopian society where there’s zero crime and compare that with a dystopian society riddled with crime and then apply the point >>128294169 and realise that there’s no way of discerning through statistics which one is the utopian and which the dystopian.
Now if you can’t do that I’m not gonna waste your time you should go find something to eat now

>>128295421
Lumpenproletariat are not working class.

>>128281707
>>128294207
This. It's hilarious how racists make a real academic effort to justify their racism. Sould've used those skills to get an actual education instead of ranting online.

>>128295604
You call it racism, I call it pattern recognition.

>>128295532
I get that, and I'm directly addressing the point you're making with the thought experiment in the first place.

You're saying "well, a real utopia has zero reported crimes (because they don't happen), and a complete hellhole also has zero reported crimes (because they happen but aren't recorded, since it's a completely dysfunctional society), an observer who ONLY has reported crime statistics at their disposal wouldn't be able to discern which type of society is either".
I'm saying that this doesn't apply here because we have a lot of data about virtually every country, so we can easily make the judgement that Africa is definitely not a utopia.

This post: >>128293898
>This is unverifiable right now it would take a lot of research to find statistics to back up such claims
(which is the original statement that you made before the thought experiment, which you made to argue it) is completely false, as proven by the links I gave you.

>>128295658
The thought experiment was an answer to this >>128294169.

I’d like to ask that if you’re arguing these high crime societies have unreliable statistics that you refrain from using those unreliable statistics to prove your points

>>128295743
You must be fun at gangbangs

>>128295806
Bro, I already warned you not to talk to me. Go get some breakfast

>>128295743
I established here >>128295333 (first two words) that I'm not the guy you were talking with, and it's obvious from my argument that I don't agree with the notion that we don't have enough data to reach a conclusion. We do, and it paints a very violent picture.

Besides, even if I did believe that data coming from those countries is completely unreliable, there's also data from other organizations that do various types of work in those countries and lets us know what the situation is like even if the country itself only reports "no reported crime".

Just so we're on the same page, what's your stance here?
Is African society overall not many times more violent than Europe?
This is the core issue. Everything else is us getting side-tracked about what we're (actually you two original interlocutors) doing in the discussion.

>>128295823
Not me.
Your prisoner iq pasta meme doesn't apply to any of the posts you've used it on.
This is embarrassing.

>>128295604
>purely socioeconomic factors
Personally I think we should re-enslave them.

>>128293929
>after he tried to rub a construction worker

>>128282432
>China bans rap for a reason.
China bans everything, especially if its super popular. Selective enforcement is how their backwards mongrel legal system works. Only a sister fucking retard would consider this admirable.
>>128281640 (OP)
Perpetuating pinhead-ass conspiracy theories like this is itself actually a conspiracy to keep the Wyatt Mann distracted with trivialities so that he doesn't realize he's been robbed blind.

>>128281707
Blacks physically built the country and were never allowed to manage it.
Latecoming polacks, krauts, micks and the like (you) never built anything here and were rewarded handsomely for it.
As always the rightoid fantasy is a perfectly inverted version of reality.

>>128296366
Picking cotton isn't infrastructure, faggot.

>>128293860
>we value history.
Funny way to spell
>we can write
, Jean Paul

>>128296366
>Blacks physically built the country
>we wuz architex an shieeet

>>128281640 (OP)
Not just the black community

>>128296687
More like the "lack" community amirite?

>>128296380
>just trust the construction of critical and dangerous feats of engineering to these 60iq animal
Hammering in a railroad spike is too much for these "people"

>>128295887
Kek, except the confederates were fighting for blacks to stay and for slavery to spread further west, which means a larger black population and so our problems times 10. The southerner should be apologizing to the northerner since Lincoln wanted them shipped off to somewhere else (Africa or some South American location) after they were freed.

>>128296366
>Latecoming polacks, krauts, micks and the like (you) never built anything here and were rewarded handsomely for it.
You seriously think they did nothing? Who do you think built the midwest, and the West? These groups also produced inventors.

>>128297953
>replying to a meme with your fucked up retarded idea of history

>>128296366
>and were rewarded handsomely for it
How?

>>128282432
>He doesn't know how to use a sampler outside of nog music
>He doesn't know classical music adopted the sampler
>He doesn't know classical music MADE samples possible

>>128281640 (OP)
Blacks destabilize the black community and beyond naturally. They don’t need the government’s help.

>>128295604
This, just admit you hate black people for purely arbitrary reasons. If you actually got to know some you might realize that they're nothing like what you see on fox news or whatever other hillbilly tv network you watch.

>>128298333
>just admit you hate black people
Everyone does.

>>128284314
>rap
Based
>Onlyfans
Based
>True crime
Based
>Drugs
Sometimes based
Who would've said, everything based seems to be le immoral to conservacucks.

>>128298390
Slavery should be reinstated immediately.

>>128298115
Most anons ITT having a PC despite being mentally retarded is an example.

>>128298424
Fight for it, Lil Timmy. Oh, you're too scared to do anything... such a shame.

>>128298390
You know what else is super based? Killing yourself.

FYI.

>>128298590
My man out here losing control over a black man being based. Typical non rap listening, stomp clap hey enjoyer cope.

>>128298424
>slavery is reinstated
>Timmy is in chains and now lives at his 9 to 5 job
Tuff

>>128293258
who is this zest lord?

>>128299002
Real shit.

>>128282432
>>128298197
Hilariously, J Dilla was trained in classical music IIRC.

>>128281640 (OP)
No but trap music is for retards and needs to die already. Not all rap is retarded

>>128298038
>reposts popular gigachad meme he saw on pol
>”UHH YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO CORRECT IT”

lol retard zoomer… you and your ilk (virgins who have never read a book or fucked a girl or been in a fight) don’t have the ability to speak for soldiers who died 2 centuries ago.

hell you couldn’t even into the mind of a kid who went to military school.

>>128299285
What has this gay ahh fake though guy act have to do with anything though? I didn't know alpha chads like Andrew Tate and Charlie Kirk posted on /mu/.

>>128298333
>just admit you hate black people
just admit that you lick their asses for free on a dead site because you feel bad for them
(black people are basically the lowest of all western societies, at least the indians work 24/7 and become CEOs or the eastern asians become business owners and run their own operations meanwhile black people have nothing but working fast food, crime and welfare)

>>128298333
I don't really hate ethic African blacks like the Nigerian and Ghanian immigrants in my area. They act normal and are mostly religious, remind me a lot of middle eastern in a neutral way. I dislike the bum gangster blacks though for obvious reasons.

Nogs are cancer but trashy whites are equally annoying

>>128281640 (OP)
I've never heard of this theory but with already knowing how students of music culture view it, yes.

When I was a student I lived in student housing in a shithole ghetto and I often walked past a daycare full of mudslimes and niglets. They were always screaming stuff like "whore" "cunt" etc. Aged 5 and younger btw.

>>128301470
tits or GTFO

>>128301523
...they werent screaming it at me

>>128301528
shut up and post them titties

>>128283912
>black person does crime
>i dindu nuffin, white people have oppressed me
>white person does crime
>i dindu nuffin, jews have tricked me
it's time to accept jews are the superior race

No, but gangster rap definitely was. It was made by the CIA as an adjunct to their crack cocaine distribution program to fund the Contras. Dates and timeline matches up exactly. It is a psyop to keep blacks in prison and to do stupid shit to make money to consoom Gucci, Cadillacs, Hennessy, and all that shit. I think they also tried doing it to whites too with metal and upping the number of Satanic serial killers since Rick Rubin (big connections) made Slayer so big and they also gave Morbid Angel a big label release but whites are smart enough to know it's all fake theatrics.

>>128281640 (OP)
When the jews bought all the newly privatized prison systems they needed a criminal population so it made money and that is why the jew owned record companies invented gangster rap. Simple as. I don't care if you believe it. Check the dates

>>128282656
>was shit and killed
Lol
So bad at rapping the opps couldnt take it anymore

>>128301991
This but they surely aren’t all Jews. I wouldn’t be surprised if none of them are actually. Anyway you’re right about the prison system it’s legal slavery because inmates aren’t freemen by definition. America is fucked you’ve got that industry creating felons for free labour and you've the private healthcare industry creating as many sick people as possible, essential services like healthcare and justice need to be out of the private sector

>>128302058
>I wouldn’t be surprised if none of them are actually
Yeah they're all off earning an honest living.

>>128299068
lmao, I thought this was Dominick Fernow.

>>128282773
lol
>>128293929
lmao