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Anonymous No.128324785 [Report] >>128325623
/prod/ - Music Production
>Production Resources:
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use Vocaroo to post WIPs.
https://vocaroo.com/

No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your Soundcloud/YouTube links).

Sister thread: >>>/g/dmp

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Anonymous No.128324829 [Report] >>128324848 >>128325015 >>128325998
i need a partner to make bass music
s0ychan No.128324848 [Report]
>>128324829
sorry I only make treble music
Anonymous No.128324865 [Report]
Today is the day i fix my /prod/ schedule

every day i will work on both something new and something old instead of tunnel visioning
Anonymous No.128325015 [Report] >>128325038
>>128324829
And i need a partner to make drum music... what if we teamed up and made some kind of fusion of them?
Anonymous No.128325038 [Report]
>>128325015
ill make the logo
Anonymous No.128325585 [Report] >>128325759 >>128325878
I just remembered the dark days of prod, back when someone was always like you're ngmi, you should kys
Remember that? And then finally we like started arguing with him, a bit of therapy I guess, and he like... Fucking left
This was a few years ago, but damn it was seriously a thing that went on for years and years and years
Anonymous No.128325623 [Report]
>>128324785 (OP)
>4 AA's
Damn thats pretty good. My billy bass takes like 4 C batteries. I wonder what advancements they've made to it to save energy or do you just need to replace the batteries every 3 times you use it?
Anonymous No.128325759 [Report]
>>128325585
see >>128323055
there are orders of magnitude more subtleties that you're ignorant of, so if you think your music is good and you publish it, then don't get success for years, you'll come up with some excuse like you don't have the marketing of a big label or something, but i could listen to your song and know that it's crap so it's no surprise that you don't get success and no big label wants to sign you
Anonymous No.128325825 [Report]
remember to hop on mu makes an album >>128325266 unless your'e a piece of shit who would never actually prod
Anonymous No.128325877 [Report]
What do you think is going to come first:
>new KORG Electribe
>new Roland MC groovebox
Anonymous No.128325878 [Report]
>>128325585
>the dark days of prod
lol
Anonymous No.128325938 [Report] >>128325963 >>128337511 >>128337726
What's the verdict?
Anonymous No.128325956 [Report] >>128326683
repostan cause no (you)s
>>128232577

https://vocaroo.com/15QKm0mMK7fP
Anonymous No.128325963 [Report] >>128326220
>>128325938
i haven't watched enough youtube reviews to have an opinion yet, sorry.
Anonymous No.128325998 [Report] >>128326043 >>128326732 >>128331495
>>128324829
i've actually been posting in discord lately and there's a guy who makes *that* kind of trance (the cool kind) who has liked everything i posted but i'm kinda scared to message him he has like 100 times the listeners i do ._.
Anonymous No.128326043 [Report]
>>128325998
If he's so good then how come he's got no listeners
Anonymous No.128326061 [Report]
>>128325693
>digital warmth
Anonymous No.128326090 [Report]
somebody wake me up when shitpost hours are over screw you guise.
Anonymous No.128326220 [Report]
>>128325963
it's okay it's also $500 so i understand
Anonymous No.128326288 [Report] >>128326295
growing up and realizing you can't just make all your chords fucking huge, fully voiced, with big spread out inversions all the time or there will be no room for anything else.
so sad. so very very sad...
Anonymous No.128326295 [Report] >>128326308
>>128326288
struggling w this currently what do
Anonymous No.128326308 [Report] >>128326569
>>128326295
put the 5 down an octave and stop putting the 7 up or playing open voicings ever
Anonymous No.128326569 [Report]
>>128326308
sorry idk what that means js gonna distort everything and eq my tracks into their own neat little zones
Anonymous No.128326586 [Report]
https://vocaroo.com/1nXL3bQql2NW

>house

not sure what subgenre of house music i made. also not sure what to do with this. thanks for any input frens
Anonymous No.128326649 [Report] >>128326706 >>128326760 >>128327363
My first take at trance, and first upload to 4chan
vocaroo.com/F1mrmgpUMnG2u
Anonymous No.128326683 [Report]
>>128325956
Goes hard, wish the synths went crazier melody wise as the song progressed
Anonymous No.128326706 [Report] >>128326760 >>128327363
>>128326649
Wrong link
This the right one: https://vocaroo.com/1mrmgpUMnG2u
Anonymous No.128326732 [Report] >>128327019
>>128325998
What discord u in
Anonymous No.128326760 [Report] >>128326929
>>128326649
>>128326706
Goes hard. Now make it 7 minutes long.
Anonymous No.128326929 [Report] >>128327363
>>128326760
Thanks g
Why so long
Anonymous No.128327019 [Report]
>>128326732
it’s a fairly exclusive invite only type thing.
there’s a network of several that i know of and they’re run by pros to groom up and comers.
obviously i can’t name it but i was introduced to the one im most active in through one that SOPHIE was part of- when she passed most people just migrated of course.
Anonymous No.128327363 [Report] >>128327733 >>128329747 >>128331072
>>128326649
>>128326706
As the TranceAnon from /dmp/, I will listen to this
BPM is a bit high, but that's a minor complaint (now-a-days, 140+ is common for trance)
That little drum combo you keep reusing does not really fit trance, try something simpler, more of a crescendo thing
It needs more pads and some whooshing noise... it needs to feel fuller
Overall though, the melodies and sounds are good. I like the second half. It works well for old school-ish trance (doesn't really fit the modern trance sound, but that's fine). The overall arrangement could be shuffled up a bit though. Trance should have a gradual buildup, then a release into the breakdown, then a buildup out of the breakdown into a drop, then high energy, and then gradual cool down into the end. You have all of the elements, but with some re-ordering it would fit the template better. There should definitely be more going on after the breakdown ends, that should be one of the most energetic parts of the track.
>>128326929
To really release it, you need a version that a DJ can mix with preceding and succeeding tracks in their set. Right now, you have a "Radio Edit" length track, and the overall arrangement actually works decently for that (though could still use a bit of re-ordering). But for a full length mix, the buildup/release/breakdown/drop/closing should be very structured.
Listen to these to hear what I'm talking about:
https://youtu.be/T2kMZ0pglfE Binary Finary - "1998 (Gouryella Remix)"
https://youtu.be/647jA8M4ecs Same track, but the Radio Edit
Anonymous No.128327469 [Report]
I made a funk thing
https://vocaroo.com/1nUHSQK4ZtFV
Anonymous No.128327506 [Report]
>>128323357
ok how tho?
Anonymous No.128327733 [Report] >>128328591
>>128327363
based effortposter
Anonymous No.128328591 [Report]
>>128327733
i'm very passionate about trance
Anonymous No.128328844 [Report]
Some WIPS

https://voca.ro/12FV8yGD0vCp

https://voca.ro/1d4v0bRQsFPZ

https://voca.ro/1JOLziiSkEcV
Anonymous No.128328960 [Report]
https://vocaroo.com/1htwDAKywY4F
Anonymous No.128329747 [Report]
>>128327363
>That little drum combo
amen break?
Anonymous No.128330124 [Report]
https://vocaroo.com/15FBjor4kNnt

goofy little beat I made with a volca sample 2 inspired by video game menu music
Anonymous No.128330187 [Report]
https://vocaroo.com/1dCEmJVP4481

https://vocaroo.com/15dJxfb46KzB

swag swag idec
Anonymous No.128330378 [Report] >>128330524
>pirate a good noise gate plugin
>suddenly my vocals sound 100x better
Anonymous No.128330524 [Report] >>128330719
>>128330378
what piece of shit daw doesn’t come with a gate lmao
Anonymous No.128330719 [Report] >>128330870 >>128332040
>>128330524
I said a good one
Anonymous No.128330870 [Report] >>128330910
>>128330719
skill issue you’re retarded
Anonymous No.128330910 [Report]
>>128330870
>you’re retarded
that's why i need better ones so they do more of the work automatically
Anonymous No.128331005 [Report] >>128337664
https://vocaroo.com/1gPe0wjvZZfF
is this too much reverb? I have it ducking under the dry signal but i still feel like it's too much.
Anonymous No.128331072 [Report] >>128332648 >>128340310
>>128327363
Thanks a lot for the feedback, i just made something that i thought sounded like trance, I don't really know the intricacies and history of proper trance music, i just got into listening to stuff like Marlon Hofstadt, Benwal, KI/KI this year and I really dig it, I've heard its kind of more of an offshoot of Trance that isn't as purist as proper trance. Would love to know more about Trance so I'm less ignorant, do you have some producers I can listen to so I know what "real" trance sounds like?
Also, what do you mean with a whooshing noise? Like a sweeping fx?
Anonymous No.128331194 [Report]
Frens. I had a lot to say and ask anons about their tunes but the thread is gone..
I will link them here.
>>128216283 (DEAD)
>>128325046 (DEAD)
>>128319975 (DEAD)
>>128325103 (DEAD)
Anonymous No.128331495 [Report]
>>128325998
>kinda scared
Don't be lmao
Anonymous No.128331594 [Report]
Do these generals have a discord?
Anonymous No.128332040 [Report]
>>128330719
how can a gate be good i dont get it
Anonymous No.128332648 [Report]
>>128331072
Go listen to the "A State of Trance" compilation albums (not the "Year Mix" ones though). There's two or three CDs for each year starting in 2004. So, you can find an era you want to slot into. I recommend starting with like 2008-2012. Most of them are available on YT or other streaming services. Or, if you want a more classic 90s sound, there are plenty of mixes on YT full of 90s trance hits.
Anonymous No.128332682 [Report] >>128334006 >>128335838
Who the fuck is the boomer that doesn't believe in analog?
Anonymous No.128334006 [Report] >>128334187
>>128332682
I am.
I only said that sound quality/fidelity is important but not more important than songwriting/composition.
He always twists everything you say to him into a strawman because he's a troll and likes to waste everybody's time.
I've been ignoring him for quite a while now, but he's still mentioning me every time he posts, hoping to bait me into arguing (I'm assuming your post isn't exactly this).
Anonymous No.128334187 [Report] >>128334293 >>128334425
>>128334006
thats definately not him hes allergic to the shift jey and doesnt know about different typing stules to tell peolle apart why the fuck would he change his own
Anonymous No.128334293 [Report]
>>128334187
"He" is a persona he uses for his trolling hobby. I can only assume that everything he does is a larp.
Anonymous No.128334425 [Report] >>128337465
>>128334187
go to the hospital, anon, you seem to be having a stroke.
Anonymous No.128335579 [Report]
Going from "working at first glance" and actually being useful / reliable has been a challenge, but now I can say most everything that is present in the app works as expected.
Biggest issues I was having was getting the midi / wav exports to properly include all of the paramater automations / edits, but it's all working now.
Today I'm focusing on breaking out the transcription mode into a more focused panel, and improving those features specifically. _then_ I will add song / arrangement mode.
Already I get a lot of use out of this as just something to play samples with on my MIDI keyboard. I can just load up the sample bank on another tab and noodle. It's also really fun to use on a tablet / phone.
Nothing special, just me validating swing, velocity, substeps and pitch changes all exported to wav properly : https://voca.ro/1aEg7PXhVwSK
/blog
Anonymous No.128335639 [Report]
>search for Pianoteq like I do every couple of months
>some madman actually uploaded 9 like 2 days ago
Christmas just came early.
Anonymous No.128335838 [Report]
>>128332682
he's truly stupid and delusional and constantly lies and lies to himself with mental gymnastics. he's had numerous meltdowns about gearfags, insisting that all you need is fl studio, citing outliers from years ago like soulja boy and skrillex (who both had professional mixing/mastering anyway, just the basic beat was made on a computer).

he's also cited this cheesy ass sytrus demo song several times over the course of about a year. he's very slow to learn in general and might still be stuck on the idea that this demo song doesn't suck ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWDOIm24lhw

even in the last thread he showed once again that he doesn't understand analog coloration: >>128293974

he has awful taste in general and thinks it's impossible to tell if a song is a hit just by hearing it without cues like seeing the amount of views on a music video or knowing that the artist is famous or to distinguish between analog gear and plugins in a blind test
Anonymous No.128335895 [Report] >>128335946
and he won't even look for plugin emulations of various gear such as the 1176, he has no natural curiosity and drive to seek out these things
Anonymous No.128335946 [Report]
>>128335895
he's also short, bald, and stinky
Anonymous No.128336198 [Report]
i previously mentioned this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dD_3_AeOTY
see at 10:00 to 12:30 how the original roland D-50 has the ebin sound and the D-05 does not

this synapse proxima emulation of prophet-600 might fool a lot of newfags, but to me it's similarly flawed as the D-05 vs D-50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDhufDCzWk4

kiive vs tubetech CL1B, everyone they interviewed guessed correctly, this type of video pisses me off when it's like the plugin developer thinks they nailed the sound and it just falls flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gcHA5pSRE0

this is like ragebait, he claims he would pick the plugin version despite most commenters strongly preferring the analog version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNYuCxe4Yc
Anonymous No.128337465 [Report]
>>128334425
>a stroke
of genius
Anonymous No.128337511 [Report]
>>128325938
I am sold for the effects that can be used as a separate vat too.
I trust them they will be well coded and carefully made with the reputation of this team.
Anonymous No.128337664 [Report] >>128342017
>>128331005
https://vocaroo.com/1htq5XanP3wB
added trumpet solo
are the vocals too loud?
Anonymous No.128337726 [Report] >>128338128
>>128325938
Should've been a bigger deal than it ended up being. Serum 2 was a massive improvement, Falcon 3 is a solid overhaul and Phase Plant 3 will be huge. Omnisphere 3 should feel like a big upgrade but it doesn't.

With that said though, it does feel more modern than 2 and less like a plastic physical synth filled with weights to make it seem more premium. The workflow isn't too different but it's different enough for me to want to make music with it.

The mutate feature is hit or miss, not as fast and rewarding as Absynth, but I've already made a ton or very usable patches with it.
Anonymous No.128338128 [Report]
>>128337726
How is it for generalists or people who try different genres? I mostly do electronic and I like doing a wide variety of genres under that umbrella.
Anonymous No.128339962 [Report] >>128340020 >>128343392
https://vocaroo.com/1AywKf41nH4E
i tried making something
Anonymous No.128340020 [Report]
>>128339962
forgot to mention i played the bass, pad and synth on this.everything else was sampled
Anonymous No.128340310 [Report]
>>128331072
>do you have some producers I can listen to so I know what "real" trance sounds like?

euphoria-albums.co.uk
Anonymous No.128341161 [Report] >>128341937
hello 4chan!

https://vocaroo.com/1fz30NyuuZie
Anonymous No.128341937 [Report]
>>128341161
hiya!
Anonymous No.128342017 [Report] >>128342443
>>128337664
>are the vocals too loud?
they're well balanced , but they sound a bit out of place aesthetically(lofi sounds and hifi vocals), experiment with some subtle effects on em until they sit well with everything else
Anonymous No.128342138 [Report] >>128342487
I just found out that you're not allowed to make samples and loops using Omnisphere.

https://support.spectrasonics.net/manual/Omnisphere/legal/index.html

500 dollars for something you don't even fully own lmao.
Anonymous No.128342443 [Report] >>128342838
>>128342017
>experiment with some subtle effects on em until they sit well with everything else
what do you suggest?
Anonymous No.128342487 [Report]
>>128342138
Fuck those niggers and do it anyway. These people are the worst scum on the planet.
Anonymous No.128342838 [Report] >>128342948
>>128342443
you can try subtle saturation(tube,transformer, tape), narrow band eq from 100~ to 12k~,subtle optical or parallel compression, subtle plate or spring reverb
Anonymous No.128342948 [Report] >>128343007
>>128342838
https://vocaroo.com/1192Jyp6amPH
does this sound better?
Anonymous No.128343007 [Report]
>>128342948
i prefer this one more, nice
Anonymous No.128343392 [Report] >>128343861
>>128339962
Very JRPG factory/lab area feeling. Bit too low end heavy and muted, I think, especially those drums being buried like that. Maybe that's a choice, but I would argue it's overdone and it suffers a bit as a result. The bass volume is inconsistent and is a bit too present ass well. Still, I enjoyed it, just needs fine-tuning on the mix.
Anonymous No.128343861 [Report]
>>128343392
Thank you for the advice. I'll give this stuff later
Anonymous No.128345786 [Report] >>128346168
how to find the bpm of any track?
Anonymous No.128346168 [Report]
>>128345786
https://youtu.be/dRN7yzT9x9U?si=QxCornEiOtqnyqku
;-p
Anonymous No.128348158 [Report] >>128348231
>play a song I made quietly
>still feels like it's raping my ears

what am I doing wrong exactly
Anonymous No.128348231 [Report] >>128348247
>>128348158
Could be a mixing/metering issue or Master metering. I suspect dynamics though.
Maybe pull back EQ spikes if you done some wild EQ shapes. Or pull back compression, its Input/output volumes. Look into limiters.
I believe there are limiters which can help with dynamics and are not simply a brick wall so you won't hit red.
Hows you meterings in general. Some plugins like EQs or Comps have their own meters. Check those that are reasonable and not redlining.
All these perceived/real loudness and LUFS is a tricky part of making music nowadays..
Anonymous No.128348247 [Report] >>128348305
>>128348231
I know nothing about this shit desu. Don't even know where to begin
Anonymous No.128348305 [Report] >>128348338 >>128348358
>>128348247
Forget all of it.
Find your mixer window of your DAW and play your song while looking at them.
Don't listen with your ears, listen with your 'eyes'.
What do those bars do? What values do they hit?
Do any of them go redline to the top?
Usually the separate one to the far right will be your master (all tracks together).
This need no plugins, the MIX tab with the meters is part of any daw.
Anonymous No.128348338 [Report]
*generally you don't want anything to hit above 3 on top (in the middle of 6 and 0)
If it's all gibberish, have a look on youtube "how to mix on 'DAW name'"
>>128348305
Anonymous No.128348358 [Report] >>128348827
>>128348305
I just put a limiter on my main track at -3db lol, I try not to listen at too high a volume but it still hurts my ears.

I also sidechain, I think maybe I go too crazy with my pads and they occupy the low end too much
Anonymous No.128348827 [Report] >>128348963
>>128348358
-3dB. The standard perfect.
Does it feel boomy or maybe piercing?
If you get boom you can put a master EQ to curve out the lows a bit.
If it's piercing, maybe the opposite and curve out the highs.
Or pull back on the sidechained tracks.
Maybe you overcrowded the low end with too many different sounds with the same frequencies and made the lows harsh to the ears.
Anonymous No.128348872 [Report] >>128348907
I started making ambient music. Basically short droning sounds with a hint of an occasional tonal shift and melody. First two tracks had one layer, 3rd track has 2 layers.

I have no musical bone in my body but it's a fun journey. Yes, it's minimalistic and easy, but it's a start. Who knows where I will end up after 40 tracks (if I ever get that far)? It's fun to play with sounds that make me feel like I am giving a voice to my existential dread and terror.
Anonymous No.128348907 [Report]
>>128348872
It's fun.
Anonymous No.128348963 [Report]
*put it in a short vocaroo too
>>128348827