Thread 128446328

When did rock n' roll become so respected?
If you say you like rap, people will either not care or look down on you. If you say you like rock, people will assume you're sophisticated and have good taste in music.

>>128446328 (OP)
When did you lose touch with reality?

>>128446366
When I did shrooms.

>>128446328 (OP)

when kids who liked it grew up to be journalists and critics who could shape discourse

>>128446328 (OP)
Because of the melodies and the stories they tell. All nighers can do is moan into the mic with bungo drums behind it.

>>128446328 (OP)
I cringe when I see non blacks my age listening to negro music. At some point you have to grow up.

>>128446519
>>128446813
I think you retards forgot that black music has been mogging white music for decades at this point. Guess you've never listened to a classic hip hop record.
Let's compare a classic hip hop artist like Wu Tang with a classic rock artist like AC/DC... yeah, let's pass.

>>128446843
>Let's compare a classic hip hop artist like Wu Tang with a classic rock artist like AC/DC... yeah, let's pass.
Wu Tang weren't from the same era as AC/DC so that isn't a proper comparison.

>>128446843
yeah scalding hot take their bud
white people didn't care about wu-tang until the late 00s and after.

>>128446328 (OP)
I mean in Zeppelin's day there was no rap there were actual black singers and musicians.

>>128446843
No it hasn't you moron and rap is a music genre that takes little to no talent to make it's a music genre devoid of musicianship. I mean AC/DC suck but still my point still stands and rock was the most popular music genre in the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

Rap was more popular than rock in the 2000's and 2010's cause rock went to shit after the 90's but rock music still takes more talent to make than rap cause it's a music genre that has musicianship and singing, rap has neither.

>>128446858
Raekwon vs Foo Fighters...
2Pac vs Radiohead...
Biggie vs Pearl Jam...

Come on, man.

>>128446932
>Rap was more popular than rock in the 2000's and 2010's cause rock went to shit after the 90's but
Most of the kids I knew in the 2000s listened to rock. Yes even the shitty mallpunk/emo stuff but rap was for blacks and the most skeevy white trash kids who sold weed and whatnot.

>>128446954
>Raekwon vs Foo Fighters..
Foo Fighters are a household name, not even most normies know Raekwon (compared against Method, Red, RZA etc)
>2Pac vs Radiohead...
Amongst whites, probably an even split
>Biggie vs Pearl Jam...
CLEAR black/white dichotomy there.

>>128446932
rap loses its teeth once you realize it's just a guy talking over purloined Aretha Franklin and Sly Stone samples

>>128446954
I'd rather listen to Foo Fighters over Raekwon, Radiohead over Pac and Pearl Jam over Biggie.

>>128446932
You do know that all that you said is easily debunkable with a single song, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJWYTetgsns
The song I pasted is literally leagues above any boomer AC/DC song in complexity, musicality, vocal skills (rapping and singing), production, sound design, etc., probably terms which you won't understand.

>>128446979
Raped ears and brain, many such cases. Sad!

>>128446981
>The song I pasted is literally leagues above any boomer AC/DC song in complexity, musicality, vocal skills (rapping and singing), production, sound design, etc., probably terms which you won't understand.
As he said, this is from a 1995 album while Highway To Hell was '79 so naturally studio tools and tech had gotten more advanced in 16 years.

>>128446981
Anon you might have a point but the song you posted samples an Isley Bros song. So...

>>128447003
Compare it to a Foo Fighters song, then. We're not speaking only about production (which could have been superior in 79 to 95 song, btw), but about musicality in general, and creativity. There's more variety and novel ideas in any classic rap album than there has been in a band with 30 plus albums. Let that sink in for a moment.

>>128447017
And what is the relevance of that sample to the discussion at hand? I mean, Zepp "sampled" a lot of classic blues records back in the day.

after '92 rap became a mostly one note format about gangsta bullshit

>>128447036
>Zepp "sampled" a lot of classic blues records back in the day.
OK, but in one instance you have a band recording a new song based on an old tune, and in the other you have an artist using the actual recording and rapping over it.

There's ingenuity in using samples, but those are clearly not the same thing anon.

>>128446981
Why do you keep mentioning AC/DC? I already said they suck and even then pretty much all AC/DC songs are more complex than that song cause all AC/DC songs have musicianship, that song has none.

Also the vast majority of rap songs don't have singing like that song.

E. 1999 Eternal [Ruthless, 1995]
If the popular songs you love are gunslinging tales recited over a faux Bernie Worrell tootle, of course this wordy quintet will sound like some kind of change. Unison chants, schoolyard tunes, and goopy slow jams may not be how to rock anybody else's world, but gangstawise they add up to a new flava, kinda. Anyone musical enough to hum good, however, will find the concoction unfathomably dull even if they don't notice the cold hand of Eazy-E deadening beats from beyond the grave. C

>>128447058
>Why do you mention ACDC
Because they're a classic rock band with a massive fanbase, hence they are exemplar of rock as a genre?
>Musicianship
Screeching like a lizard and playing the same pentatonic scale in every song ain't shit.
>Most rap doesn't have singing
A lot does, and rapping, lyricism and producing great beats is a skill. Tell me why these songs suck, then, and why the Bone Thugs song is miles above these pieces of shit: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JjHSgdQBzYw

>>128447056
Ironically, Zepp never paid those (mostly) black artists they "sampled", while most hip hop released on major labels give writing credits to the sampled artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOqTIRMEmM
Black music was cutting edge stuff in the 50s when white music was...well...this but sure not by the rap era lol.

>>128446843
Let There Be Rock and Whole Lotta Rosie mogs anything from Wu Tang, lmao.

>>128446328 (OP)

Boomer cope. There was a time when the monkeys were children music and through nostalgia fagging and history revision they turned them into serious musicians.

Picture related. Disco demolition night, the boomers had a melty that gays and people of color had new music to fuck and do elicit drugs to.

>>128447102
We already pay for their food stamps and obama phones and free healthcare, etc. why should zep pay for their songs?

>>128446328 (OP)
Since Chuck Berry

>>128447102
>Ironically, Zepp never paid those (mostly) black artists they "sampled", while most hip hop released on major labels give writing credits to the sampled artists.
That's great anon, it has no relevance to our discussion and you sound like a faggot leftist.

>>128446896
Fr, I miss when blacks made great music, instead of a ripped off track from another artist's record with them yapping along it

>>128446328 (OP)

Led Zep is gr8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8VduT7aR2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNk8NBqCEN8
https://youtu.be/Bo9SL-2jK0Y?si=myk2U2z7xSHKY8Ce
https://youtu.be/GGsmyqIrZRo?si=KITy4ARBqEOpYRgV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlNhD0oS5pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW3xDZrlBQs

>>128447102
>Screeching like a lizard and playing the same pentatonic scale in every song ain't shit

I never said AC/DC were a band that had great musicianship and nor do I like their music but their music still has musicianship something that Bone Thugs music and rap music lacks so a typical AC/DC song is more complex than just about all Bone Thugs songs and rap songs.

>A lot does

No the vast majority of rap songs don't have singing.

>>128447102
>Screeching like a lizard and playing the same pentatonic scale in every song ain't shit

I never said AC/DC were a band that had great musicianship and nor do I like their music but their music still has musicianship something that Bone Thugs music and rap music lacks so a typical AC/DC song is more complex than just about all Bone Thugs songs and rap songs.

>A lot does

No the vast majority of rap songs don't have singing.

>>128447143
>>128447161
Well, you already showed your (badly hidden) prejudice. First guy esentially is saying "I already pay for my son's tuition, so I can steal music credits from him if I want to".

>>128447246
You haven't even listened to a Bone Thugs record in full, and ACDC's musicianship is literally 2 weeks of playing guitar level and one week of singing level.

>>128447301
>Well, you already showed your (badly hidden) prejudice
You're just making shit up now.

>>128447301
Says a lot about rap music that a band that doesn't even have good musicianship like AC/DC still make more complex music than pretty much all rap songs a typical AC/DC song is more complex than pretty much all rap songs.

Now how about we compare a rock band that has great and very technically skilled musicianship (like King Crimson) to your average rap song.

>>128447674
King Crimson = Aesop Rock.
Ezpz. Btw, all you said about ACDC is fake af.

>>128447734
Aesop Rock's music has no musicianship and certainly does not have very technically skilled musicianship.

>>128447868
Record a cover of his most complex song.

Don't forget

>If you say you like rap, people will either not care or look down on you
Not nowadays. Nowadays a lot of people consider rap relevant and intellectual, and there's even that "'conscious' hip hop" genre.

>>128447301
>and ACDC's musicianship is literally 2 weeks of playing guitar level
have you ever picked up a guitar? it takes a few hundred hours of practice to even play basic punk chords let alone Back In Black.

>>128449553
>Nowadays a lot of people consider rap relevant and intellectual

Fantano isn't really a person now, is he?

>>128446328 (OP)
Rock bros, we're so back.

>>128447141
>gays and people of color
Revisionist narrative, try again faggola

>>128449591
we always been