Thread 1941662

Old thread finally hit its bump limit >>1750878

2023 started out as a crazy year on the collectible market but things seem to have settled down a bit
Have you made any new acquisitions ?
What do you wish to buy year?
Collectible bike thread!!

that thing is ugly as sin

>>1941664
That is the Delta V1000, the first production full suspension mountain bike , only 1700 were made , you have no eye for collectability

"Collectors" are pieces of shit.
Even some old shitboxes like the BMW E30 or the Toyota Supra cost ten times more than they should only because some stupid idiots decide that they are worth it. No they arent. Same with bikes. Its old rusty shit and nothing else.
I hate collectors driving prices up like you wouldnt believe

>>1941921
Bikes are a shit speculative asset lmao, cope

>>1942311
You are not the person that gets to decide what anything is "worth"
You have zero say in the matter because you dont own anything collectible and you cant afford anything collectible
Your opinion is irrelivant

>>1942311
Smart people buy non-collectible bikes/cars/motorcycles that are good if not better then the "highly collectible" bikes.

So instead of buying an italian road bike that might sell for 1000, you get a japanese one for 200.
Or instead of buying a santa cruz v10 dh bike, you get a giant glory/trek session for 1/4 the price

Cars are the same way. If you live in america just get a mustang or camaro instead of a 240sx.
If you really want the collectible item then cough the dough up.

>>1942351
>>1942459
You're neglecting 50+% of the bicycle posters on /n/ who don't ride. They are content being the most knowledgeable bike experts while they masturbate in full lycra to their collector's piece hanging on the living room wall.

>>1942311
Your problem is that you want the same thing as everyone else. Like >>1942459 said, broaden up your horizons and you'll find some gems. Meme bikes like Rockhoppers and Hardrock prices are ridiculously overrated because of reddit.

my dream bike

>>1942832
uh. anon... this was for sale near me and I passe it up because it's too small. was it that rare?

>>1942986
oh I just realized it's not the same bike, but it's a similar design

>>1942459
a good bike for 200? where?

>>1942459
>Or instead of buying a santa cruz v10 dh bike, you get a giant glory/trek session for 1/4 the price
What? Since when is a v10 4 times the price of a Session?

>>1943857
At that time I found some really good deals on sessions and glorys, so it was kind of an exaggeration.
However I have seen many v10's for 2k+ while similar year session glories are around 500.... but with worse parts so that doesn't really count.
I do tend to see japanese bridgestone bikes priced 2x a similar centurion or miyata bike.

>>1941921
>That is the Delta V1000, the first production full suspension mountain bike , only 1700 were made , you have no eye for collectability

and in 2023 it looks like Shartmart garbage

>>1943935
That garbage changed the entire industry

>>1943935

rude

today's numtot urbanism zoomers have no idea what a mindfuck full sus mtb was at the time, it was taken for granted that suspension on bikes was a stupid idea and would never catch on. the current arguments about disc brakes or electro shifting are child's play compared to the consensus on suspension. just as you can't imagine a world without tiktok and eating tide pods for dinner, at the time it was unimaginable that the default future mtb would have suspension and that it would eventually become necessary to even specify "hardtail" as if speaking of an exotic special interest niche item

in short, kill zoomers

>>1943935
Yeah you are right
>>1947210
Full sussy mtb's are better grandpa.
I never saw someone race a no sus mtb in ages.
Sometimes i think you calliper brakes/ no sussy dudes all ride around on tarmac and the softest gravel trails.
Try out some gnarly Mtb race route or some mellow trails without suspension and 26 inch wheels. You will literally die.

>>1947211
Stop misrepresenting your group and being an asshole

>>1947211
what are you talking about zoomie, I had an OCLV trek Y bike, not the first but among the earlier generation of full sussy, you probably weren't even born yet

>>1947222
stop saying sussy

>>1947211
lmao.
>t. 26 ridgid fisher hoo koo e koo enjoyer

>>1942311
At least the stuff survives through the value. The sooner they rise in value, the more of them survive. Things worth scrap money will just get tossed into the trash.

>>1950263
Anon should find a job to have money to buy stuff. It would instantly cure his sorry ass mood.

>>1942466
nothing wrong with that

>>1950281
>Anon should find a job
do you have any idea where you are?

>>1952779
I can do jobs

>>1942351
false

>>1942459
>Smart people buy non-collectible bikes
Totally false, stopped reading right there

>>1958033
as well you are correct to do so anon

>>1941662 (OP)
Gross

>>1941662 (OP)
nice bike. A rear suspension Delta V is missing in my collection.

>>1961521
this board needs a hero!

>>1942459
you're supposed to buy the bike when it is reviled, so you can hodl until it's collectible once more

bumping to save board culture from the yimby spammer

>>1969044
You are doing Gods work anon, you will be rewarded in heaven

>>1941662 (OP)
So if a person actually wanted to buy a delta v1000 , where would the look for one?

>>1970300
/ck/ on my /n/?

>>1972102
RB transcends all boards

>>1970300
RB's mom is quite the specimen, RB is lucky that she's going to look like that when she's older

>>1974252
Aw man, what happened to the little guy?

>>1962477
real purty

>>1974252
Lmao please tell me this is real

>>1974423
it's real, 100% real

i haven't used this site in 6 years. i checked to see if this is still a thing & im smiling

>>1978342
we are here for you anon when you come back

>>1978342
nice to have you back :)

>>1978342
threads don't last as long though

>>1981453
sometimes I take breaks for a few weeks and then these threads die

>>1983476
man that is so sad
I am only here once every few month but i try to bump the important threads if I see they are at the bottom
it works if we all do our bit

>>1978342

Anon dont leave us again ;_;

>>1988383
Hes here forever

I have a castellano fango
It’s definitely a rare piece, though I don’t intend to keep it era or treat it like it’s made of glass. I ride it all the time.

I do have another bike which is distinctly a collectible though

>>1990851
An SE STR-29, 40th anniversary 29” quadangle
This is treated more like a collectible, I feel kinda bad about it sometimes. Because I absolutely love it, I just rarely ride it. It’ll maybe see 20 miles in the summer.
I have all the original stuff for it too, the pads and grips and all that.

>>1990853
Rad

>>1990853
>quad-triangle half-mixte half-stepthrough adult BMX
that is legit unironically the coolest efin bike ever

>>1942832
Looks like a walmart bike, lmao

>>1991556
youre moms a walmart bike

>>1990853
SE bikes are pretty much only operated by juvenile delinquents in those summertime "flash mobs" that ride around crashing into people and generally being obnoxious in groups too large for the police to try to do anything about. They're also almost all nonwhites too.

I'm not saying you shouldn't like them but it's kinda surreal seeing /n/ nut over this thing when you guys are hostile to anything counterculture-ish, unabashedly racist, and generally not in favor of anything that isn't pushed by the mainstream instagram algorithm towards the 25-35 year old white male incel demographic

>>1992760
It's like your first day on this place

>>1992760
what on earth are you going on about

My heart is so full of love for all you here

Especially the bacon horse man

Thank you

>>1942311
>than they should.
Anon here likes nice things just as much as the next guy but because anon here doesn't have as much money as the next guy Anon thinks it would be better if he got to decide the price was lower. Anon forgets about the supply being limited. Cautionary tale about communism, where everything is affordable but never available. Anon also forgets it's not 'Anon vs the collectors' but that Abon is actually the very same.

>>1997683
the kids dont want to hear about supply demand curves
they want free stuff now

>>1990851
Looks pretty comfy

>>1992798
the ST badge gave me a chuckle

>>1947211
I've ridden plenty of proper black trails on a 26inch hardtail with dj forks. Granted I was 20 at the time, I do it now with a 27.5 hardtail and a decent fork. Good tires do a lot of the work as does going a little bit slower. Ab enduro trail bike is built for EWS level riding, a DH bike is built for warp speed on disgusting WC tracks, I'm by no means that level of rider but on a hardtail atleast the bike matches can easily keep up with most of what I'm capable of, on a fullsus I'm nowhere near good enough to test it's limits.

is this worth $60?

>>1999072
Yeah it's nice and clean+the stock stem is pretty cool.
Can't tell if it's a bridgestone cb-4 or a MB.
The CB bikes are less desirable, but great as a..... city bike.
Lower the number the better the components, but even a bridgestone 4/5 tier bike is still better then BSO/walmart.
>>1997371
based

>>1999078
It's a cb2

>>1999090
That is totally worth it then. I did hear this wasn't grant's "passion project" like the rb or mb series, but this should be a solid bike to ride around, and with the cb2 series probably mid/high level parts.

>>1999094
good, that makes it 10% less gay

>>1999090
I had that bike, new. U jelly?

Big bike thread

Does it count as collectible if it's literally a museum piece in a museum?

I been trying to get a hole of this guy for weeks now but he wont responde

Its literally one of the only delta v1000 that has even traded hands in years


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aC4etHylA

He has no idea what he got

My fingers are itching even though its value is entirely in novelty. I'm just a sucker for gimmicks.

>>2004251
>Does it count as collectible if it's literally a museum piece in a museum?

not only does it count, it makes it the only collectible bike in this entire thread

>>2004332
that thing is minty

>>2004341
Do you live in a van?

>>1941921
Looks like a Walmart bike

>>1941921
>>2008090
Looks like the Boofna Groofna Model 9000, which you can find on sale today at bikesdirect.com!! Disc brake, powerful!

>>1941662 (OP)
I have an old cannondale from 1988-1989 bought in Europe, with all original pieces in good conditions (some minor scratches and fixes), probably an SM600 or SM800, rear wheel 24 front wheel 26 so maybe SM600?.
It has all the SUNTOUR XCD 6000 parts, DIA COMPE breaks etc.
I would like to sell it but I wanted to ask you autists about current worth, I saw on a local website people selling similar models for 500 -1000 $ is that a good range?

>>2008165
Dream on buddy
Anything over $150 and you should consider yourself lucky

>>2008166
it's because of the damage? or is the model inherentily on that price range?
I would clean it and remove superficial rust ofc

>>2008166
I swear that a guy from a bike museum wanted to give me 400 $ for it

>>2008169
In that case you should not hestitate

>>2008165
that isn't good condition, my brother has one of those in his garage that has no scratches and the original stem and bars, I don't know what that thing is but it's probably worth $150 at best

>>2008090
You have no eye for collectibility

>>2008172
In other words you have no idea what you are talking about

>>2008259
how much would that be worth according to you?

>>2008927
He knows what he has. No lowballs!

>>1941921

From what I can see in the pic there hardly seem to be anything left of the original components. That frame and fork may be very rare to obtain in good contain, still the whole thing looks ugly.

>>2008165
>Duct tape
lol

>>2008972
I had nothing else nearby at the moment ok?
Now I put a cable zip band.

>>2008165

For it being collectible it should be in near mint condition. That thing however is something that will be bought and ridden into the ground or used as a source for spare parts. Good luck

>>1981453
I miss the days when a fucking cargo boat thread would stick around for 2 years.

>>1947210
this. times 10.

>>1947211
>I never saw someone race a no sus mtb in ages
Who gives a shit, most riders don't race and even technical trails are possible on rigid bikes if you go slightly slower and choose your fucking line correctly instead of relying on suspension to let you sleep your way through the whole thing

>>2009139
I used to pick my way through the local forest loop on my full rigid bike. Then one time I got the chance to try the same loop on a borrowed full-suspension bike. Bombing the trail on the full-susser was so much more fun, let me tell you.

>>2009142
That hurts my feelings when you tell an anecdote that contradicts my point
pls stop

>>1949679
My nigga

>>2009142
Sure, but other people who aren't cowards enjoy a challenge

>>2009211
How is anon a coward for riding a full suspension bike?

What are you on about ?

>>2009479
Trivializing interesting trails by using technology that eliminates their difficulty is cowardice, and anyone with a pair of balls owes it to themselves to ride rigid

>>2009483
They’re different tools for different riding styles anon.
You could argue the same thing about wheel size. What’s the point of technical features if a 29” wheel just rolls over them?
Some people just don’t enjoy riding stuff in that manner. I really like crawly technical bits, slow and methodical lines. 26” bikes with no suspension or limited suspension are my jam. But I totally get the idea of doing it hard and fast on a bigger full suspension bike.

The local mtb park isn’t a competition. Ride what you want how you want, just don’t piss on the trail.

>>1941662 (OP)
convince me not to buy it please

>>2010094
nope, if it fits you should get it - branded 90's hybrids are great and that thing is cool.
rack and fenders, a better seat and less ugly stem, and you'll have a really nice bike.

>>2010094
>>2010095
that thing looks sweet
I don't see why not

>>2010095
people have said that the carbon bonded to alu lugs like that are untrustworthy. there's a guy here who has one, though. just early carbon from that time was generally more sketchy than now.
that frame is really small, be sure it fits you.
the stem and saddle are ass but those can be changed easily.

>>2010094
>>2010095
Old lugged carbon is questionable because the adhesive holding the carbon to the lugs can degrade and cause tube separation.
However, when that happens it’s very noticeable that it’s happening. Further than that, it can be fixed when that happens, it’s just new adhesive required.
Especially on a hybrid or road bike it’s less of a concern, because you’d see the issue gradually form. As opposed to a mountain bike where you could lose a whole lug suddenly on an impact.

I would only buy that if you intend to keep it pavement oriented.

>>2010094
You should buy it. I love my Ti/carbon tete de course and as far as I’ve seen spine frames aren’t any less reliable than carbon on it’s own.

>>2010094
>>2010095
>>2010117
>>2010123
>>2010134
>>2010280
>>2010766
sorry guys i bought a 531 trek 720 instead
that thing wouldve gotten stolen from the bike rack and id probably break it

>>2012179
still highly based
If that's the touring/road bike I am thinking of doesn't it have a fair amount of tire clearance?

>>2012182
i havnt measured yet but i believe itl take up to a 1.9 in the rear with no fender
maybe a 2.0???
idkk il see
im probably gonna get 1.75s for fender clearance

>>2012182
oh and its a hybrid btw
basically like a tourer but a little more similar to an old rigid mtb in terms of geo and componants just with 700c rims instead of 26ers
i was almost gonna buy a real tourer a dawes galaxy but i decided its too fancy for a bike im gonna lock up
i wish i had the space for more than a couple of bikes id so have a load of pretty collectables

>>2012204
Ah, it's one of the newer trek 720's. That would be prefect for commuting, I like 700c for the flats and decents since I find you can pick up and go faster generally compared to 26's or smaller.
>>2010766
based. May not be collectible but it's damn rare after the 2010's to see any bikes with carbon+ti or any other dual frame material bikes.
Used to be pretty common on weird bikes from the 80's on.

>>2012205
its one with canti brakes
1997 i beleiiive??
guessing based on trek catalogues
about the same age as the carbon alloy one i think

Happy birthday this thread. Kill all yimbys

>>2014178
why is the board dead mommy?

>>2014524
yimby not kill the board

>>2012205
> damn rare after the 2010's to see any bikes with carbon+ti
The frame and components are all 2004. But thanks, the ride is absolutely impeccable. Probably my favorite bike that I’ve owned in terms of feel.

My last project.

>>2017496
Do it folds?

>>2017623
Yes.

>>2017496
that thing is clean

Is this cool? Made by Rolls apparently

Worth 120?

>>2020513
Wait maybe roll is just a bike shop in Ohio lol

>>2020513
>>2020515

>>2020517
short seat stem is short

>>2020513
>>2020517
Gas pipe garbage. Are you desperate out there?

>>2020515
if it was Rolls Royce it would have the logo on it. Also it would be a piece of shit because they don't know how to make bikes, being a luxury car company

I have been looking to get a delta v for an entire year and not one as come up for sale anythere in the USA

>>2027620
One turnded up on reddit recently

No one was that impressed


https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/1gtlkpm/how_about_a_circa_1992_cannondale_delta_v_1000/

>>2027632
reddit is so botted up it's insane. half the front page now is blatant bot reposts of reposts of reposts where the replies are all bots posting top ranked comments from over the years and scroll down a bit more and it's political bots trolling each other with outrage bait

it used to be possible to suspend disbelief but I can't even go there anymore

>>1941662 (OP)
What happened to the OP pic?

>>2029385
4 chins had a problem a few months ago where the pictures in a bunch of old threads got nuked. It happened on most of the slower boards

>>2017496
What makes this collectible?

>>2029385
I can still see this one but other pics are gone for me. maybe this op pic is cached in my browser? seems odd for this length of time but I don't know how these things work

>>2029468
nothing. it's a forced meme that about half the anons in these threads think is real.

>>2029493
>>2029468
Its not a forced meme, it was the very first production full suspension mountain bike
Only 1800 were ever produced so having one is a pretty big deal

>>2029549
it's not collectable. nothing you said is wrong, but they sucked and they don't go for collectible prices, see >>2027632
it's just something anon made up as a troll.

>>2029558
false . one reddit thread proves nothing

This keystone /n/ thread with no photo is a pretty crappy deal

Is there any way for a mods to fix it?

>>1941662 (OP)
i have an og early 80's bmx frame in the shed from when i was a kid i might do it up and post some before and after pics.

>>2029987
I dont know what we should do here

>>2029987
>>2031454
I'm somehow still getting it, although pics in other threads have disappeared for me

>>2031483
the photo is just stuckted in your catch

>>2031938
>>2031483
>>2031454
I dont know how some blessed mod was able to pull off this collectible miracle, but you have done a great thing and good things will happen in your future!
You are truly on the golden path

>>1941662 (OP)
Does anyone know when the first collectible bike thread was posted?
It would be cool to have an birthday for it at some point.
It has to be at least ten years right? Maybe 15?

>>2035428
I think in the early 10s

>>2037414
everyone was been working together to keep this thread bumped since then
its kind of amazing

Oh no, the collectible bike picture is gone agaiN?

Those rapscallion hacker have destroy us again

>>2038975
works on my machine

>>2040650
>>2038975
how did it able to fix again!
its an miracle !
mods be praised!

>>1942458
memeber when that guys song was everywhere for about a week?

Gary fisher "hoo koo e koo" 1995

$100

Its been a very nice daily driver

>>2041028
Man I wonder what thats worth today

>>2041071
$100

>>2010094
>>2010766
luv me lugged carbon
simple as

currently riding picrel despite a crack in the upper seat stay lug

>>1941921
Its just a bike

>>2041259
an lamborgini just just a car

>>1941662 (OP)
I like my collectible bikes, and just got a new one today. It'll be my daily driver, pic related.

With that said, I'm looking to sell my old sticker-bomb bike, since it was like, my first hardtail and is rusting after over a decade on my back burner. I don't really ride it anymore either. It's an entry level trek.

So the question is, which of my three bikes I have right now should be my new dedicated sticker bomb bike?

My new black and white Cannondale CAD 10 (daily), my beautiful super-V 1k fs MTB with a ketchup and mustard color scheme (this one has the most surface area), or my trek 900-something cargo hybrid/gravel that has a royal purple and green scheme?

Given I paid less than or equal to 500 for each of these individually, I'd like to think I'm good at picking nice bikes with good condition and color schemes secondhand.

Will a butt-fuck-ton of stickers vastly depreciate the value of the bike? Is there an easy way to remove all stickers without damaging the paint?

>>1941662 (OP)
kek sorry anon try https://boards.4chan.org/n/thread/2040603#bottom Bike Questions General. boards a bit dead as hell so it may take a while.

To answer your question in my experience I hate removing stickers, and also when buying bikes im not looking at if gear/frames are color coordinated or not. It’s personal taste, just like stickers. What you find cool and justifying of a 2000 dollar price tag someone else may not even register on their values and offer 699 and a Coke, just depends.


For me I’d sticker the MTB since MTB just seems more of a place to give a bike character, keep some mud on and some battle damage scratches, some stickers. all part of character. but if I had my fat ass Omniman sticker on my daily road bike I run risk of getting tired of it one day, scratching it off, messing that up, then looking at the messed up spot every day

>>2041748
>Image search
>No results
Anon~... Call me, I'm 6 ft tall.

With that in mind, I think I'll stuff 'em on my cargo gravel. Would probably be the bike I'll get the least for anyway. Until shtf and fuel becomes less accessible.

>>2041751
That image is in multiple threads on 4chan at this very moment

>>1941662 (OP)
this threads birfday is less than a month away.
what shall we do to celebrate?

>>2049346
probably post more bikes?
I cannot believe this thread is 2 years old

>>1941662 (OP)
Hi fren I had a 1987 Raleigh road bike that sadly decided it didn't like existing anymore and fell apart from under me pic rel

Rate my new bike, collector bros. I'm gonna ride it all around town!

>>2050203
that paint job looks like an expensive restoration.
I don't believe this is actually yours but it's super cool looking

>>1942466
Mfw I have to masturbate looking at an empty wall. Mfw I have no face either.

>>2050237
I'm still in a little bit of disbelief myself :D But it's real and it's down in my basement parked next to my manual reel mower. I need to find a torpedo headlight for it, that is missing.

Since I have my bike now, I will share my runner-up, in case one of you guys are interested. I almost purchased this one,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167683530114

It's a 40th anniversary reproduction of a 1950 Western Flyer built by the same company that made the original Western Flyer tank bicycles. It was $400 sticker price in 1990, there were only 5000 made, and that thing is basically brand new. Adjusted for inflation, that should be >$1000. If I had an extra $425 that I could spend on it without my wife killing me, I would have bought it already :D The auction is a relisting, the last time it closed with no bidders.

You can actually verify what I've told you, because on the wikipedia page they reference a Popular Mechanics article which talks about this exact bicycle,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Flyer_(bicycle_company)#cite_note-PopularMechanicsMarch1996-5

>>2050265
the hiawatha looks cooler anyway. are you saying you got it for less than the $425 western flyer? because that custom paint job by itself should be near that number unless the seller sold at a loss?

>>2050286
I got a good deal, yeah.
>It belonged to my dad who passed away. I don't really know anything about it.
That was all the info the seller had. Picrel was me.

>>2050203
I can see the fender struts, but what are those other struts near the head tube and fork?

>>2050265
>sitting here going over all the ways I could grams shave this beast.
it would be like pounds shaving, getting aluminum parts for all those steel components. the saddle looks like it's well over 5 pounds.

>>2050300
I read somewhere that they're crash bars, so like if it falls over or something it hits the bars instead of the paint job. IDK.
I have the orginal seat too, with the crash bar on the back, but it's broken. The parts underneath are snapped somehow.

>>2049421
I missted the birfday ;_;

>>1941664
You have no eye for fashion

>>2054783
I HAVE NO EYE FOR FASHION??

>>1949678
does it make you all hussy you little bussy?

I love that the Delta V1000 in the op is wearing a birfday hat! Eckspecially since it just had a birfday a few weeks ago

>>2055045
You dont tell about my bussy
ever

>>1942311
Market dictates the value. Those old cars have a high value because they are highly desired, and the supply of them isn't super high. Even the bottom of the barrel shit has already been scraped there. People have already bought up 2005 base model Dodge Neons at this point. Bicycles aren't really in the same boat. There's a few exceptions here and there, but most people don't give a shit about "collectable" bikes. Hipsters just want a "vintage" bike, but most of them would just a happily buy a new manufacture vintage styled bike that someone beat with a chain, hosed down, and then left outside for a month.

>>1941662 (OP)
I found two for sale locally. Proflex 555. $100

>>1941662 (OP)
Gary Fisher Paragon

>>2057072
$125

>>1942593
I think even on a fixie I would still want a front brake.

>>2057082
This is an indoor track bike for track cyclists on a velodrome I do believe. They start at opposite sides and race around to catch each other if possible. These bikes have no brakes on purpose for weight reduction.

>>2056936
This is why the Delta V 1000 is such a big deal, it has the pedigree of being the first production full sussy

>>2057117
>These bikes have no brakes on purpose for weight reduction.
lol

>>2057130
It's true, lol. The funniest aspect is that this is a Schwinn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velodrome

>>2057142
>>2057117
track bikes have no brakes so that tires don't leave a bunch of extra tire residue on the track surface, which would ruin it

same reason you need to wear bowling shoes at a bowling alley

>>2057142
>It's true
Nope.

>>2057130
>>2057150
>>2057151