/jrg/ - Japanese Railways General
E10 Series Edition
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Anonymous
3/7/2025, 1:20:42 AM
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>>2035708
All coupled Shinkansen services have been suspended and are being turned back at their joining/splitting points, with passengers having to change for Tokyo. Yamagata services are being terminated at Fukushima. Akita services are being terminated at Morioka. This is currently set to continue until at least the 7th.
It should be noted that the issue that caused the last in service split was metal filings activating the emergency uncouple switch, which has subsequently been deactivated (according to NHK). The Transportation Safety Board are investigating the current split.
2nd similar incident involving the same types of trains in 6 months is certainly sub optimal.
Was Hiratsuka originally supposed to be a part of the Tokaido Shinkansen?
Was watching the Shinkansen construction documentary in
>>2024166 with some weeb friends, and we noticed on pic related at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjFOYLAtoE&t=2487s showing an ATC panel with Hiratsuka after Shin Yokohama.
Our guess was that Hiratsuka was an early candidate and this panel was made before it was axed, either because it was too close to Odawara or was replaced by Odawara entirely.
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 3:54:41 AM
No.2035770
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>>2035791
>>2035768
Also the Shinkansen already goes straight through the city (see purple dot), but again is very close to Odawara.
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 5:37:15 AM
No.2035780
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>>2036229
Tsubasa and Komachi services are being conducted from the local Ouu and Tazawako lines respectively.
IIRC this is the first time since discontinuation of the Toreiyu Tsubasa and first time for E8 sets.
Also note that there are a few Tsubasa services (~4 per day) that are not operated as Yamabiko-Tsubasa pair. These serivces will still operate direct between Tokyo and Yamagata-Shinjou.
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 7:32:12 AM
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>>2035793
>>2035768
>>2035770
You're forgetting that Shinagawa wasn't a Tokaido Shinkansen station until 2003.
That panel is likely for control/signalling and not stations.
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 7:35:31 AM
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>>2035791
Ah, makes perfect sense that ATC would be more granular than the stations. Thanks!
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 9:32:11 AM
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>>2035806
Anyone think the E10 is just an uninspired re-skin of the E5? There is no speed difference, nothing really changes, all there is are the seat re-configurations and de-contenting by removing the Gran Class. It's like going from JR Central's N700A Shinkansen to N700S
Anonymous
3/7/2025, 12:04:18 PM
No.2035806
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>>2035800
I think they know the big step change is SC Maglev, so why pile loads into entirety new trains when you can just wait and see how Maglev works out for JR Central?
Anonymous
3/8/2025, 5:14:36 PM
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>>2035906
Anonymous
3/8/2025, 5:41:30 PM
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>>2035947
>>2035902
t. American who likes Sapporo for no reason
Anonymous
3/8/2025, 7:31:27 PM
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>>2035672 (OP)
I wish they used the old pinstripe liveries instead of these garish paint jobs.
Anonymous
3/9/2025, 12:07:46 AM
No.2035947
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>>2035906
If you truly liked Hokkaido you'd want the night trains back instead. Accessing Hokkaido overnight saved so many daylight hours for actual tourism. Fuck the Hokkaido Shinfagsen.
I made this mildly autistic edit taken from pics/videos while riding trains around Japan last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W6o4H6Ku14
>>2023312
<- New video for you to test your skills on.
Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlrj99KIZIU
Spoiler: He isn't really bashing on foreigners getting better tickets, since for Japanese there similar (even better) deals abroad when they are the foreigners.
The deal in Britain sounds amazing btw.
Anonymous
3/11/2025, 6:54:25 AM
No.2036229
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>>2036312
>>2036196
If suits didn't famemaxx, he would literally be an incel (See his Chee-gyu video). Ironically, he is actually married.
>>2035780
And just like that, the entire purpose of the mini-shinkansen has been defeated and the thinly disguised tokkyu as shinkansen has been exposed
Anonymous
3/11/2025, 11:07:51 PM
No.2036312
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>>2036337
>>2036229
>And just like that, the entire purpose of the mini-shinkansen has been defeated and the thinly disguised tokkyu as shinkansen has been exposed
isn't it just temporary due the business with the coupling failures?
Anonymous
3/12/2025, 6:09:57 AM
No.2036337
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>>2036312
I'm trying to say mini-shinkansen have always been a scam, and the only thing of value is the fact you don't have to change trains (which ceased to function this time), hence the sometime more correct name "Shinkansen-through service limited express"
Anonymous
3/13/2025, 4:12:32 AM
No.2036412
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>>2036423
They want to resume coupled Shinkansen service as soon as possible, so they are taking very simple measures until the cause is identified.
As a result, JR East plans to fully resume coupled train operations on March 14th.
Anonymous
3/13/2025, 8:21:18 AM
No.2036423
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>>2036412
>just chain it to the wall Senapi 草草草草草
Jesus Christ, Jewpan Rail has fallen.
Is it possible to lengthen the platform of Shinkansem stations between Takasaki and Tokyo to 24 cars long, to couple Hokuriku and Jonetsu shinkansen trains at Takasaki, in order to enable more frequencies reaching Tokyo?
>>2036437
The major problem is section between Tokyo and Omiya, where the speed is greatly limited to 120 km/h and the tracks are only double-track, making it impractical to increase the number of trains even if the station is expanded.
In addition, the couplers of the E7 and W7 series are for emergency use and are not designed for combined operation, so significant modification of the trains will be necessary.
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 12:23:49 PM
No.2036509
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>>2036537
>>2035672 (OP)
Just googled this E10 Shinkansen. Apparently it'll be used in India as well? It'll be interesting to see a broad gauge Shinkansen.
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 4:09:02 PM
No.2036535
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Small Collab.
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 4:11:14 PM
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>>2035968
I want to win the lottery and I just want to ride trains for the rest of my life.
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 4:13:50 PM
No.2036537
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>>2036555
>>2036509
LOL. LMAO even.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai%E2%80%93Ahmedabad_high-speed_rail_corridor
You're not building high speed trial to be compatible with your standard rail, just like Japan narrow gauge. You're building a Tohoku Shinaksen Style 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge system.
>>2036437
Yes but thats not the issue. They built themselves like
>>2036500 says a massive gigantic bottleneck. They really need to build another set of two tracks under Tokyo metro style that can do 200 km/h to an underground Omiya station.
People forget but Omiya was actually the source point.
https://youtu.be/I3fz69MYGIo?si=TBYDsTk-8RWdJj96&t=57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ5DjD7qh8Q
People used to take a Relay Express to Omiya and then ride the Shinkansen northbound.
By extending it to Ueno and then Tokyo they created this massive bottleneck that wasn't designed to handle so many high speed trains.
Anonymous
3/14/2025, 6:38:44 PM
No.2036555
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>>2036537
Ok weirdo. I'm not building a shinkansen nor is my country. I just read an article about it and thought it was interesting, because it's fascinating when specific train designs get adapted to different gauges and loading gauges and how they end up having slightly different proportions. Looks like that's not the case here.
Anonymous
3/15/2025, 8:24:10 AM
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>>2036538
They do have an underground corridor reserved from Omiya to Shinjuku, and I would argue that having Hokuriku shinkansen trains end there wouldn't affect that many transfers. I checked the timetables and saw the following:
>Nagoya - Nagano is about 5 minutes faster on Shinano limited express than by best case scenario Kagayaki + Nozomi
>Yokohama - Nagano already has Jorudan telling me to stay on the local train to take the Ueno Tokyo Line to Omiya instead of transferring to shinkansen at Tokyo because it saves money without losing time.
The only area that would gain an additional transfer for fastest route is Shizuoka prefecture, but I don't think it's that common to go there from the part of Hokuriku Shinkansen that wouldn't be faster by going via Tsuruga,
Anonymous
3/15/2025, 6:08:10 PM
No.2036661
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>>2036500
>>2036538
Coupling trains for Hokuriku and Joetsu Shinkansen can allow sending 3 trains an hour to Niigata/Gala Yuzawa, and 3 trains to Nagano/Kanazawa, but only take up 3 slot at Tokyo stations and Tokyo-Omiya track, instead of 6. Therefore allow more frequencies within existing track limit.
And the main bottleneck is not the extension to Tokyo. Instead it is all the JR East Shinkansen lines have to share the four platforms at Tokyo stations to do turnaround before next train come.
Anonymous
3/16/2025, 4:51:58 PM
No.2036748
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https://tabiris.com/archives/yamagata-dankai/
Prefectural study on Yonezawa Tunnel, as well as other Yamagata Shinkansen improvements has been published
>geological surveys found no blocking problems
>but the completion time estimate went from 15 to 19 years
>the study focuses on speeding up more sections to 200kph+ in mini-shinkansen trains rather than just having one tunnel at full 320kph with full width standard and normal rail elsewhere
>this includes full grade-separation between Fukushima and the tunnel, as well as from the tunnel to Yonezawa
>that saves 10 minutes at 160kph
>author says this way could achieve 260kph, meaning even more time saved
It also bypasses Itaya pass, which was the cause of 60% of all Yamagata Shinkansen delays from what I've read(don't remember where).
Overall I think this is the better play from the prefecture.
https://tabiris.com/archives/jrkyushu-chuki/
JR Kyushu invites municipalities alongside Ibusuki-Makurazaki line and Nichinan line to "discuss about the future of the line"
Thankfully it seems like they want subsidies rather than to abandon the line.
Anonymous
4/9/2025, 7:58:53 AM
No.2038427
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>>2055025
https://www.jreast.co.jp/e/press/pdf/0220jept_10days_en.pdf
JR East is introducing a 10-day version of the JR EAST PASS (Tohoku area) for 48000 yen.
It's basically like buying two 5-day passes(30000 yen) and getting second one 40% off, and the 5-day pass is already so good that sometimes it makes sense to buy two. The pass will become available from May 15th. If you use JR East Reservation site you can buy it from April 15th, but you won't be able to pick up the actual physical ticket until May 15th. Also some time last year JR East made their passes purchasable in Japan again, you just need a foreign passport(not even with a tourist visa, any visa will do now apparently, just like during wuflu). JR West really should follow suit, instead of still linking me to my country's HIS branch that died in 2018.
Anonymous
4/10/2025, 11:59:19 PM
No.2038508
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https://www.youtube.com/@tyokutoku/videos
found this youtube channel with tons of 1960s JNR promotional films, lots of great stuff
Anonymous
4/12/2025, 7:53:33 AM
No.2038664
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>>2038684
I just watched Suit Train's video about using JR rental cars as a 10-20% off trick for Tokkyu/Shinkansen (respectively), and was very impressed. But if you have need for a one-way from Tokyo-Fukuoka is it worth getting a Japan Rail Pass for the shortest length and paying for the Nozomi add-on, or is it better to just buy the one way if no further long-distance travel is desired?
Anonymous
4/12/2025, 4:15:50 PM
No.2038684
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>>2038758
>>2038664
if it's money you're concerned with, fly.
Anonymous
4/13/2025, 9:45:57 AM
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>>2038684
Flying is not fun, wastes time at beginning and end of trip (I also hate low cost carriers with a passion). Trains and driving I consider enjoyable especially during paid time off.
Anonymous
4/29/2025, 1:09:09 AM
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Sesshoku-jiko on the Sanyo Shinkansen, Nozomi operator heard 'something small that sounded like a birdstrike', some blood found on the train back at the yard, and upon inspection of the tracks a corpse was found in a tunnel:
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/87e621301192723e3d24c29fc1008dd284590a25
I thought it was too hard to get onto the tracks so most jumpers stuck to an heroing on the Zairaisen but guess not.
Anonymous
5/5/2025, 11:20:03 AM
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>>2039625
I'm booking touristy trains for a trip to Japan: Am I the only one frustrated how many of these only run on the weekends? Especially when the train is specially made for that service, what the hell are they doing on weekdays? I also work in the travel industry as an analyst, it's mind boggling since weekdays are actually very high visitation tourists-wise
Anonymous
5/5/2025, 1:01:50 PM
No.2039625
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>>2039626
>>2039617
The joyful trains are made for locals who are working outside of weekends/holidays not your gaijin ass. Though pretty sure some of the Ginga services I rode were midweek runs.
Anonymous
5/5/2025, 1:21:38 PM
No.2039626
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>>2039629
>>2039625
Cucked mindset and dead business model. The modern travel industry does not target the "everyman" nor do we assume all customers are the same. As a pricing specialist, yield management is very real and all firms practice it.
Take the existence of "cruise" trains and the extinction of sleepers in Japan. Why make a small amount of money from some amount of customers (fare constrained) when you can make an extraordinary amount of money from just very few customers? The West Express Ginga example you gave is an exception, not the rule (industry trend-wise).
>>2039626
>nor do we assume all customers are the same
99% of nips are identical, interchangeable labour units that all follow the same pattern though, so it works there.
Cruise trains are the exception for the 億万長者達。And normal sleepers died because of simple economic competition from air and bus + the Hokkaido Shinfagsen making the last services besides the Sunrise too difficult, if they kept making a profit they'd still be around.
Anonymous
5/10/2025, 8:58:54 AM
No.2040049
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https://tabiris.com/archives/jrlte2025-gw/
Golden Week 2025 limited express ridership stats are up
>Kuroshio surges 23% compared to last year
Article says it's because of Adventure World in Shirahama(Wakayama prefecture) announcing they will return all 4 of their great pandas to China in late June.
>in raw numbers the winners are Chuo line limited expresses(Azusa/Kaiji) followed by Joban line (Hitachi/Tokiwa)
>same as last year but raw numbers did go up 8% and 12% respectively.
>Haruka 13% up because of the expo
>Yakumo down 17% after last year's boom caused by introduction of 273 series, and possibly also due to retirement of 381 series which had more seats
>Fujisan(the JR Central/Odakyu train from Shinjuku to Gotemba, not to be mistaken for other similarly named trains) down 20% with no explanation given.
I tried to look further into it and I found this blogpost
https://noritetsu46.hatenablog.com/entry/2025/05/04/113000
The poster has taken that train(before GW despite the post date) and apparently people use it as yet another limited express for the Odakyu portion, but then from Hadano(last stop before it goes off to the Gotemba line) it was literally just the poster in the entire car 1, and one person in car 2. Later the post goes on about the expressway buses, available every 30 or 60 minutes from Busta Shinjuku, which provide silmilar travel time for a 2/3rds of the price due to Gotemba being right on the Tomei Expressway.
Anonymous
5/11/2025, 5:55:50 PM
No.2040206
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To celebrate the 50 years of Nishitetsu's 5000 series and its Ice Green livery, they will be releasing a special sneaker in the livery and Nishitetsu's logo in collabration with Moonstar, a local shoemaking company based on Kurume. Each pair will cost 13,200 Yen after tax and only 500 pairs are available.
https://www.nishitetsu.co.jp/ja/news/news20250502/main/0/link/25_010.pdf
>>2039629
>If (normal sleepers) kept making a profit they'd still be around.
I wonder if the modern version of the Blue Train would just be an updated version of the 285 Series to comply with accessibility standards and possibly using E001's propulsion system so it could literally go anywhere in Japan without the need of locomotives
ZAKI has done a trip to Tokushima:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Nj8IpPH1Q
On that note: Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 8:36:48 AM
No.2040431
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>>2039629
>identical, interchangeable labour units
Literal Showa-era thinking. This might have been true 20 years ago, but it's changing every single day and the industry knows (or so my Japanese colleagues tell me). The sophistication of how modern day segmentation works is a science onto itself.
Society is changing faster than anyone thinks in Japan (for the better or worse).
>>2040417
>Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?
Because when you live in a big city the economics dictate that all trains are electrified, and you just assume all trains are like that. The words mean nothing.
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 6:17:34 PM
No.2040461
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>>2040485
Anonymous
5/14/2025, 11:22:26 PM
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>>2040487
>>2040461
>auto translate renders 電車 as "train"
>"misuse of the word 'train' to refer to 'train'"
kek
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 1:08:09 AM
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>>2040493
>>2040485
yeah also 電車 isn't really directly translatable to english
>>2040487
>muh moonrunes can't be translated to filthy huwaito piggu speak
fucking kys you weeb cocksucker
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 12:03:35 PM
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>>2040518
>>2040493
translate it then
Anonymous
5/15/2025, 4:38:58 PM
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>>2040524
>>2040499
The literal translation is "electric car".
While its regular meaning is "electric railway train", the common people apparently understand it as "train" (completely ignoring the 電).
>>2040493 is still a fag.
>>2040518
>While its regular meaning is "electric railway train"
Wrong
pic related is not a 電車
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 5:45:47 PM
No.2040605
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>>2040692
>>2040417
>On that note: Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?
Native japo here.
Because people don't really think about the individual meanings of the characters in a noun. Normies use densha to mean anything on rail because it's the common term.
Saying "nooo, actually it's not a densha!" makes you sound like an autistic pedant.
>>2040524
You're a pedant but you're right.
Only passenger or cargo cars that use electricity are considered densha.
Anonymous
5/16/2025, 5:48:10 PM
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>>2040524
electric multiple unit
Anonymous
5/17/2025, 5:15:00 PM
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>>2040605
>Because people don't really think about the individual meanings of the characters in a noun.
There you have a beautiful language that makes a word's origin and literal meaning (regularly) clear as day and then the native speakers don't employ it.
>Saying "nooo, actually it's not a densha!" makes you sound like an autistic pedant.
Don't worry, I'm not doing that, despite having mild autistic tendencies, because I'm aware of that and can keep myself in check.
I was simply curious, so thanks a lot for your answer!
Keisei announces express service between Narita Airport and Oshiage, to start 2028
https://www.keisei.co.jp/news/detail.php?CN=7006
https://tabiris.com/archives/minesen202505/
>Meeting was held on May 22nd about restoring the Mine line, closed since June 2023 torrential rain and landslides
>JR West revealed a more detailed BRT conversion proposal
>section from Yunoto to Atsu to be converted to road, rest of the route by existing roads
>JR West will bear all operating cost(municipalities along the line used to pay a portion of it when the train was running)
>roughly 1,5x services per day at same fare, with integration into the existing rail system(possibly including tickets?)
>the municipalities will also be eligible for approximately 2,6 billion yen more subsidies for rebuilding, because they're creating public transport infrastructure instead of repairing privately owned infrastructure
>council of municipalities will hold another meeting, but Mine city mayor who leads the council already said that "BRT is an option"
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 6:11:33 PM
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Anonymous
5/24/2025, 12:45:21 PM
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>>2041373
>Didn't have any ticket inspection on the Sunrise for the first time ever last Sunday
>tfw no more stamps anywhere then (;_; )
I guess the good part is, it's easy to 不正乗車 now by exiting at Takamatsu or Tokyo with a cheap regional pass, (e.g. the Kansai Wide Pass which requires manual inspection at Takamatsu as is doesn't work in the gates there, the perfect crime).
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 2:09:30 PM
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>>2041253
I came back from a 5 day trip between Osaka, Nara, and Kyoto taking only ltd exp and 0% local trains (not an easy feat on its own), and all tokkyuken were bought ticketless, I just walked through the gates with mobile suica (ICOCA) inside Apple Wallet. In reserved seats, I guess the co doctor is just checking to see if the seat is occupied for the duration of what it shows on their screen? It feels very different from way back when when they would stamp everyone's paper tickets...
>>2041184
Daily reminder JRs are not good stewards of local lines, they actively take part in their destruction
>>2041041
Another Tokyo area thing happening is Tobu ltd exp for Nikko may start/terminate at Toyosu with through operation in Tokyo Metro lines
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:46:21 AM
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>>2041651
https://www.meitetsu.co.jp/profile/news/2025/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2025/05/26/25-05-26meitetsunagoyastation.pdf
Meitetsu Nagoya station is finally getting the extra tracks and platform space it needs.
>the reconstruction starts next year
>phase 1(ETA 2036)
>build much longer platforms next to the existing station on the Gifu side
>add ticket gates and corridors for transfers both above(JR/Kintetsu/buses) and below(subway)
>phase 2(ETA "early 2040's")
>redo the area of the current station
>combine with the new platforms and add extra tracks
>end result is 4 tracks with island platforms + side platforms for outside tracks
>one of the side platforms will be exclusively for airport trains
>cost is estimated to around 320 billion yen
>this is just one part of a large redevelopement, including a new bus terminal and two 31-floor skyscrapers
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 10:16:02 AM
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>>2052755
>>2041635
I took the muSky to and from NGO recently, was very surprised at how busy Meitetsu Nagoya was, trains constantly coming in and out of the platform, none of them sitting around at all (speaks to capacity issue). The current Meitetsu portion of the station is not connected to the Kintetsu/JR station at all, you have to come outside where the Nagoya Station Marriott is and then enter the main Nagoya Station.
Also, the "Tokkyu" to NGO is shit unless you sit in the reserved section which is like a real tokkyu train. The non-reserved cars were just horrible and cramped like a commuter train. Why don't they run more muSkys which are actually all-reserved with nice seats? The price difference is tiny
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 10:58:54 AM
No.2041654
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>>2041658
>>2041664
>>2041041
It would be quite amazing if there was a way to run this service also via the Toei Asakusa Line and then continue to the Keikyū Main Line. Would this this even be technically possible? Would Keisei AC series trains even fit to the Asakusa Subway tunnels?
I'm mostly thinking about this from a perspective where I'll need to transfer between Narita and Haneda airports really fast (I wouldn't expect them to actually run the express trains to the Keikyū Airport line and Haneda terminals, but transfer at Keikyū Kamata station would be enough for me). It would also enable pretty nice service to the Keikyū Kawasaki and Keikyū Yokohama stations from Narita airport.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 11:17:30 AM
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>>2041664
>>2046856
My absolute favorite train when I traveled to Japonia was the Shinano from Nagoya to Matsumoto. I booked the very front seats in the green car and got to enjoy the view out the front.
The Romancecar is probably "better" because you see straight out, but I absolutely adored seeing the train driver with his fancy uniform pointing at the signals. 万/10 would foam again
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 11:53:58 AM
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>>2041654
Meant of course Keisei AE series trains.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 12:49:56 PM
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>>2041654
> Would this this even be technically possible?
The subject of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mHFyj52cA
Long term, I would imagine that's what Keisei is going after plus this is identified as a public transportation priority so you can expect the various level of govt to kick in some money to make it work
>>2041655
After the 85-series were all replaced with the new hybrid HC85s, Kyoto Tango took over some of them and they live on in northern Kyoto still today.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokuriku-kyoto/
>Kyoto City council voted in two resolutions regarding Hokuriku Shinkansen
>first one prohibits Shinkansen tunnels that use "Deep underground use law" for permits(over 40m deep) within Kyoto
>second is coercing JRTT to explain all aspects of the construction to the greater public, including waterflow risks, and "listen carefully to local voices"
>this is even worse than Saga prefectural assembly's resolution on Nagasaki Shinkansen that at least urges the government to try and find a solution satisfying all sides
JR West needs to dodge Kyoto already, even though it would requite redoing enviromental assessments. The city spreads so far into the mountains that they'd be paying a significant chunk of the money for a project unpopular with the public, at a point in time where they're considering raising subway ticket prices because the budget is bleeding. No politician would ever support it there in current circumstances.
Just put a station in Kameoka, maybe even call it something like Kameoka-Arashiyama to cash in on tourists because it will be by far the fastest way to that area.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 1:17:00 PM
No.2043068
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>>2043060
>maybe even call it something like Kameoka-Arashiyama to cash in on tourists
Fug have you even seen the Togetsukyo bridge lately? Funnel any more tourists onto the fucking thing and it'll collapse into the god damn river.
>>2043060
Kyoto city proper is only the first stumbling block. All local governments along the proposed line (except Obama) in Kyoto prefecture are against it. The rational thing to do is to re-gauge the Kosei Line and you kill two birds with one stone avoiding the parallel conventional line problem. Yes, this means less pork and less construction from the crooked politicians to their crooked construction contractor friends, but it’s better than no work at all. I seriously doubt the National govt has the balls to re-nationalize the Tokaido Shinkansen between maibara and Osaka from JR central to give to JR West
>>2043060
>>2043071
I mean, re-running it to Shin-Osaka as a separate line in the first place always seemed excessive when it could just link up at Maibara and JR West/Central could just come to some profit-sharing agreement for through services to Osaka same as they do on the Sanyo now I assume. Still don't understand how that wasn't seen as the main option the whole time.
>>2043071
>>2043073
>Maibara route
Tokaido Shinkansen is already running at maximum capacity during New Year/Golden Week/Obon. To put even one more train in, every single train would need to run slower to maintain safe braking distances. And that topic, the safety systems are different and incompatible with each other.
>Kosei route
Okay, you took the Kosei route, and you arrive at Otsukyo. Your options now are to either connect to the Tokaido Shinkansen(see Maibara route), or go to Shin-Osaka via Matsui-Yamate as intended, right through the two wards of Kyoto city that scream the loudest about the groundwater thing(Fushimi and Yamashina).
The only options are to either build it west of Kyoto city, or wait for all the complainers to die out of old age and build some other Shinkansen in the meantime.
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 3:38:40 PM
No.2043080
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>>2043078
>the safety systems are different and incompatible with each other
Surely they can make the trains compatible with both with minor retrofitting, or standardise the systems, trivial compared to laying an extra 100km of largely underground track.
>maximum capacity
Just do what JR East does and make two trains kiss and split/join them at Maibara, (ideally also make it so they don't decouple while in motion)
Anonymous
6/8/2025, 5:11:56 PM
No.2043092
[Report]
>>2043073
> Still don't understand how that wasn't seen as the main option the whole time
Often, the purpose of public works projects (because JRTT is government) is not to do the thing they claim to be doing, but in the process benefit someone else. The fact that you get a new train line afterwards is just a nice byproduct
>>2043078
The capacity issue has two parts: JR central likes their trains like commodities, only prioritizing volume and speed (which works for their purposes). But when the chuo Shinkansen comes over to the Kansai area, tokaido will become a secondary route and as an operator you have to play up shtick like the way JR Kyushu does because now your leisure passenger share is high, in fact, they will have so much excess capacity JR West can run all sorts of things on there and a refit of all the train systems on the route is orders of magnitudes cheaper than new construction.
I actually had some Fushimi sparkling water the other day in Kyoto, at one of those restaurants where the question when you sit down is “still or sparkling?” (Tap was not provided unless you say specifically) it was very good. I’m of the opinion it should still join the Tokaido Shinkansen at that point, advantage over Maibara is distance and travel time, capacity between Kyoto and shin-osaka I think should be resolved as above
>JRE introducting a new Overnight Limited Express from Tokyo to Northern Tohoku around 2027 using conveted E657 sets
Probably going to be their answer to the Ginga but any night train that's not a $10,000/pp cruise train makes me happy.
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2025/20250610_ho03.pdf
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:55:36 AM
No.2043339
[Report]
>>2043361
>>2043329
>グリーン and プレミアムグリーン berthing only
>No 普通車
'Premium' Green class? Was the 'Gran' kikery not enough?
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:18:10 PM
No.2043361
[Report]
>>2043368
>>2043329
>>2043339
Spending the night in the ラウンジ won't be possible?
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 2:47:41 PM
No.2043368
[Report]
>>2043361
Wouldn't see why not, you can on the Sunrise/Ginga, there isn't a curfew just a general don't-be-a-noisy-dick unwritten (or actually written on the Sunrise) rule.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 6:07:46 AM
No.2043458
[Report]
https://tabiris.com/archives/seibu-musashino/
Multiple sources confirm rumours of talks about a joint service starting in spring 2029
>Seibu Ikebukuro Line and JR Musashino line are connected by a freight line around Akitsu/Shin-Akitsu stations
>local governments on the Seibu line were requesting some direct connection from Saitama for a while now
>no confirmed route yet
>Omiya would require a double-back, but Seibu already does that at Hanno to reach Chichibu so it's nothing new to them
>Tokyo makes no sense since it would lose by over half an hour to taking the Seibu train to Ikebukuro and transferring there
>Haneda will become possible when Haneda Airport Access line opens(ETA 2031), but that requires passing through Rinkai line so fares will get complicated
>article author also mentions Chiba and Kamakura/Yokohama area
And the follow-up:
https://tabiris.com/archives/jrekaiken20250610-2/
JR East CEO confirms at a press conference it will be a limited express to the Keiyo line, so presumably Chichibu - whatever station after Disneyland makes sense to terminate at. He also confirms no plans for a commuter service on that connector. He also mentioned the Haneda Airport Access line so that could be a thing in the future too.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:07:30 AM
No.2044863
[Report]
https://tabiris.com/archives/geibisen-rinji/
The "revitalisation council demonstration project" will for once not be a bus, but an additional train, It'll go Hiroshima - Bingo-Ochiai(which wasn't doable without transfers since JNR era), and will be timed for transfer to/from Niimi, where another transfer also lines up with Yakumo limited express both ways.
It seems like JR West is trying to give this service it's best shot so that when it inevitably fails there's little to no room for ifs and buts about closing the line.
Questions for people who have taken the Sunrise before
1)I won't know the exact date I'd be taking it until about 2-3 days prior(depends on when my friend will be done with work), what are the odds I'd be able to get a room on the Sunrise Seto for the whole way(Takamatsu to Tokyo) in early September on such short notice?
2)If I do end up in nobinobi area instead of a room, where do I put my suitcase? It is carry-on sized, but I didn't see anywhere in the videos I've seen to put even that. Do I just put it right next to where I sleep?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:27:14 PM
No.2044980
[Report]
>>2044983
>>2044935
>what are the odds I'd be able to get a room on the Sunrise Seto for the whole way
The rooms/nobinobi are only bookable look once each run anyway, you don't have to sleep in others' sheets. But the answer is probably, if you refresh e5489 every 10 minutes till a berth opens up, 75% I'd say. Can usually snag something in the last few days as there's always a cancellation or two. Might be a smoking berth though...
>Do I just put it right next to where I sleep?
正解。
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:16:18 AM
No.2044983
[Report]
>>2044935
>>2044980
Also, to double your odds, when refreshing e5489 constantly set the route as Okayama -> Tokyo as there may be something on the Izumo instead.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:27:00 AM
No.2045158
[Report]
>>2045438
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokurikushinkansen20250618/
Ishikawa Prefecture's politicians got a former professor of Kyoto university to estimate costs for Maibara and Kosei routes of the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension.
>current route is 3,4 to 3,8 trillion yen
>Maibara route(transfer-only): 0,9 trillion yen
>Maibara route(trains continue to Shin-Osaka): 1,6 trillion yen
>Kosei route(transfer-only): 1,3 trillion yen
>Kosei route(trains continue to Shin-Osaka): 2 trillion yen
>"trains continue to Shin-Osaka" includes the cost of modifying safety systems and building a rail yard somewhere at 0,7 trillion yen
>none of these pass benefit/cost calculations
Transfer-only Maibara route not passing B/C makes sense because it has barely any benefits, but if both Kosei route options fail them, supposedly due to rising costs, then do the 2017 calculations the Obama route was chosen on still hold up, or is the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension dead?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:03:08 AM
No.2045288
[Report]
>>2045438
https://tabiris.com/archives/kumamotoairportline202506/
Kumamoto Airport Access Railway's development route has been released
>single track(like Hohi main line it's attached to)
>starts after Higo-Ozu station
>either a passing point or a station around the Shirakawa river
>an uphill tunnel up the plateau the airport is located on
>and an overground airport station on the opposide side of the parking lot because the variant with building the train station under the airport building didn't pass B/C
>planned to open in 2034
Looking at Jorudan, Higo-Ozu is already the terminus for 49 out of 50 local trains per day that reach it from Kumamoto, so I'm assuming most if not all of those will get extended to the airport.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:37:27 AM
No.2045438
[Report]
>>2045604
>>2045665
>>2045158
The numbers don't matter because it's fundamentally a political decision. Because Shinkansen construction is a national/prefecture cost-share, if all parties do not consent it does not work. Further, if local government does not agree, they will hold up permitting, etc. and effectively acts as a veto.
Ultimately, what regional governments want and can get people to support will get built. The national govt can push and cajole, but there's a limit to how far it goes. The national government is free to pay JRTT all by itself and say some bullshit about the project's national importance, but that just tears down the facade of Shinkansen construction laws post-Joetsu, and turns every prefecture off the cost-share
>>2045288
It's astounding how many regional airports in Japan are built in the middle of nowhere. I understand there's not always the space for it in the middle of the city of course, but they really go out of their way to make it inconvenient (e.g. Nagasaki Airport, which is 2 Shinkansen stations away from actual Nagasaki).
Anyone remember all those "agricultural airports" they built once and were never flown out of because the jet fuel costs more than the market price of the produce itself? It really makes you thin, where would the country be without pork barrel spending?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:24:05 AM
No.2045604
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>>2045721
>>2045438
I get what you mean(I've landed at "Shizuoka" before), but in case of Kumamoto specifically the options were either the current location, or in the plain below where the pilots of bigger planes would need to be extra careful with the mountain plateau(the current location) right next to the airport.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 9:23:44 PM
No.2045665
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>>2045721
>>2045438
>The national govt can push and cajole, but there's a limit to how far it goes.
Or they could go forward with Shikoku Shinkansen instead, where all 4 prefectural governments are on the same page and are willing to make sacrifices to build it. Especially now that Tokushima gave up on the Awaji island route and is supporting the Seto Ohashi route despite it offering negligible time improvement to Shin-Osaka over highway buses. The national government can point at it and say "See, they got along so they get the investment.".
It doesn't matter that at most we'll see full Shinkansen to Matsuyama and a single track mini-Shinkansen to Kochi(I've heard that the current tunnels on Dosan line will need to be rebuilt in 2030's or 40's anyway, I think it was in a Himabozu video but I'm not sure), the island as a whole will be seen as better connected with Honshu, which will drive people in.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:30:14 AM
No.2045721
[Report]
>>2052755
>>2045604
That's rectified by Shizuoka holding JR Central hostage and a new shinkansen station under the airport is their "price" for permitting the Chuo Shinkansen.
I was watching old news segments about how the Kumamoto Airport route was decided, it sounds like the TSMC factory is working out very well for their local area
>>2045665
The Seto Ohashi route is stupid and non-sensical to begin with, duplicates conventional lines, is indirect as hell for the majority of passengers from urban centers, and Tokushima got cucked when they gave in to the demands of the other 3 prefectures over there.
If you think about the economic fundamentals, the Tokushima - Kansai connection is a no brainer and instantly makes it a Kansai suburb. Who wants to go all the way to Okayama and then go around in a roundabout fashion? The fact single track Shinkansen is on the table is amusing though
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 9:24:58 AM
No.2046256
[Report]
>>2046257
Did Miki Clark just get fired from Japan Railway Journal get fired? I noticed in the most recent episode she's been replaced by some generic Japanese guy that talks in English (not to be confused with the professor)
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 10:01:15 AM
No.2046257
[Report]
>>2047005
>>2046256
Praise the Lord if she was. I stopped watching because of her. Cathy Cat was perfectly bearable but Miki Clark jfc
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:04:04 PM
No.2046856
[Report]
>>2046876
>>2041655
I travelled on this in the opposite direction and it was 2.5 hours of bliss. The scenery was great and it was a nice sunny day.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:09:44 PM
No.2046876
[Report]
>>2047005
>>2046856
Did you get the front row or rather back row seats with panoramic view?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:14:01 PM
No.2047005
[Report]
>>2047007
>>2046876
I didn't sit there unfortunately.
>>2046257
I like Cathy and Miki. Ideally they would just clone the Professor and have them both presenting.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 6:21:04 PM
No.2047007
[Report]
>>2047005
Fuck off Miki is awful
>""Reserved seating"" on standard kaisoku now
The most Jewish thing I've seen out of Jewpan Rail in a long time.
https://www.jr-odekake.net/railroad/service/ureseat.html
>>2047317
Green-sha were effectively that already, weren't they?
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 4:58:38 PM
No.2047422
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>>2047317
Apparently this had been a thing for almost two years and they are actually expanding it to more areas
>>2047418
I'd think this is a bit different as it is more of a Reserved Seat than Green Car
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:51:18 PM
No.2047528
[Report]
>>2047418
For JR East maybe, but in JR West territory the A-Seat (New Rapid) is the closest thing to that. Because of competitive pressures, all JR West Rapid trains have forward-facing, reversible seats, which all happened to be numbered. This lends itself then to be easily sold as reserved ones.
>>2047317
Personally, I find it far more offensive that JR West sees fit to sell reserved seats on Rapid train that have junk seats compared to a Ltd Exp (but good seats compared to sideways long seats) than actually running more Ltd Exp with proper conductors. Without conductors you just know some scumbag foreigner (or unpleasant old man that's checked out on life) will sit there without paying
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:01:32 AM
No.2047607
[Report]
>>2047625
why is the keisei skyliner so much better than JR's narita express?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 5:16:03 AM
No.2047625
[Report]
>>2048138
>>2047607
1) Route (where it uses Narita Shinkansen right of way), 2) age of vehicle, and when you combine 1 and 2 you also get 3) speed.
Where it falls down is desirable station to terminate at, all of which are JR
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:46:32 PM
No.2048067
[Report]
>Tried to book the Ginga for August 8, e5489 locks up for a few mins at 10 AM JST on the dot with 混雑中 errors due to Obon rush
>Tried to book a Sunrise A-class berth for August 9, e5489 locks up for a few mins at 10 AM JST on the dot with 混雑中 errors due to Obon rush (got a B-class Solo berth among the leftovers at least)
At least managed to snag an A-class for August 2 but god damn JR西日本 up the fucking compute and bandwidth for your site a bit more at least for Obon, shit is easy to scale in cloud.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:47:03 PM
No.2048138
[Report]
>>2047625
Both the Second Gen AE and E259 are around the same age as they both entered service at the late 2000s, so I would assume the interior for the E259 is worse?
https://tabiris.com/archives/honebuto2025/
Ishida cabinet published "Basic Policies for Economic and Fiscal Management and Reform 2025", including a new National Shinkansen Plan.
The short version is: "If your dedicated Shinkansen isn't already in construction(Hokkaido) or partially complete(Hokuriku, Nishi-Kyushu) get fucked, the most you can hope for now is a speed upgrade to your existing track".
Of course, this is dressed in nice words like "expanding capability of trunk lines in various regions". Also the Shinkansen Basic Plan is out of the window and speeding up lines outside of it is fair game, but that means that the Basic Plan routes will now fight for funding with various speedup projects. And there's a bunch of them in the works already:
>Jouetsu Shinkansen - Hokuriku Shinkansen connector
>Asahikawa - Sapporo speedup project
>speedup projects on both Mini-Shinkansens
>the Dosan Line speedup plan, which was shelved for sake of joint support of Shikoku Shinkansen by all Shikoku prefectures, but if that's not happening then it'll likely resurface
>the Joban Line, which was apparently used as an example
and this will just spawn more of them.
Of course all of this assumes Ishida cabinet will still be in office after the upcoming elections, which is difficult to predict.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 4:34:33 PM
No.2048311
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:30:48 PM
No.2048356
[Report]
>>2048397
>>2048400
>>2048299
Well how much more shinkansen did they ever mean to build it already goes almost everywhere
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:51:57 AM
No.2048397
[Report]
>>2048400
If anyone will be on the moon and wants an A-class Sunrise berth for Takamatsu -> Tokyo for July 30 let me know within the next 24 hours.
>>2048356
>Well how much more shinkansen did they ever mean to build
Pic related.
>>2048299
Ishiba and the LDP (now fully globalist and Chinese controlled throughout) is not likely to hold their senate majority after the election, will probability be minority in both houses of diet. If the Constitutional Democrats and former PM Noda manages to overthrow Ishiba, look back to 2009-2012 for their version of pork priorities (which is remarkable considering the last time the democrats were in power with Noda as PM they failed to deliver on every single one of the things they promised, but managed to unexpectedly raise the much hated sales tax, ending their term in self-destructing their party).
>>2048356
>>2048397
Daily reminder the “basic plan” Shinkansen authorization (law) was entirely a scam presented as a consolation prize for every other region just to let then-PM Tanaka Kakuei justify building the Joetsu Shinkansen to his hometown such that he could travel at great speed back to his district from Tokyo, economics or any other basis be damned. Now that regions all over Japan are trying to cash that check to build Shinkansen in their area no matter how economically unsound, the mask is finally coming off and there will be a reckoning where the government admits it simply does not work and makes nonsense. The repeal by administrative rule and policy has already begun
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:33:22 AM
No.2048402
[Report]
>>2048905
>>2048400
>built a Shinkansen to my regional home town because I'm PM and I do what I want
Unfathomably ベースド。
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:00:35 AM
No.2048898
[Report]
>>2049368
>>2041184
https://tabiris.com/archives/minesen202507/
The municipalities alongside the line have agreed to JR West's terms.
The line will be effectively a mostly normal bus, except for a 4km section of track converted to a bus-only road, and the line being a part of the JR West network in terms of ticketing.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:47:22 AM
No.2048905
[Report]
>>2048400
>>2048402
>>built a Shinkansen to my regional home town because I'm PM and I do what I want
lmfao I thought they only did that in Spain
Last time I went to Japan, I got a Rail Pass. With the price rises, I'm trying to see if it's worth it. Is there a website where I can check out the prices.
>>2049092
https://www.japan-guide.com/railpass/ on one hand it's limited to about 70 destinations, but on the other it calculates all passes at once, not just the Japan Rail Pass.
If you need to check somewhere not on that list, use something like Jorudan/Japan Transit Planner or Navitime and check every route you'll take manually.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:22:07 PM
No.2049112
[Report]
>>2049106
Great thanks. I've left out little excursions but even then it's looking like it's not worth buying a pass.
>>2049092
It's a bit hard to get good value out of the 1/2 week passes anymore unless you move pretty fast, bit easier with the 3 week though.
But as long as you move at a decent pace it can still be used pretty amazingly. E.g. calculated all the tickets at standard price for my last trip pic related, and using the three week pass saved me over 200,000 JPY.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:21:25 PM
No.2049267
[Report]
>>2049231
Oh shit, I'm going first half of November. I'm really excited for it not to be mid 30c like it was when I went in early Septmber.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:46:15 AM
No.2049368
[Report]
>>2048898
"BRT" has always been, and always will be a scam. Buses are just that, a substandard form of transportation that cannot stand the test of time like trains. Shame on JR West
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 7:39:25 PM
No.2049604
[Report]
https://tabiris.com/archives/seibu50/
Seibu, Tokyu and Keio make deep discounts on child fares following Odakyu and Keikyu
>in 2022 Odakyu introduced a flat 50 yen fare for children on IC card tickets
>then Keikyu did the same but 75 yen
>this was an incentive for families to move to areas in those networks so the children will grow up there and reduce the effect of depopulation
>others are following suit now
>Seibu made children's commuter passes 500 yen per month, and children's all line passes 1000 yen per month
>Tokyu and Keio will give a 100% cashback(in form of points) for children's commuter passes
>on top of that Tokyu made children's fare flat 100 yen on weekends and holidays
This is probably more about PR and investor appeal considering that the parts of Kanto with railways are the one area of Japan that is least likely to depopulate. Maybe it'll make a difference on the outskirts of the further reaching lines, but not really anywhere else. It doesn't lose them that much money either since the primary schools will be at most a couple stations away. The article mentions children's fares being less than 1% of Odakyu's revenue.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokuriku-maiduru/
Multiple Hokuriku Shinkansen routes to be re-evaluated
>Nishida Masashi, who ran on re-evaluation of these routes(among other things) got elected in a landslide victory
>he revealed in an interview he already instructed related parts of Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism to re-evaluate them
The article then talks about Maizuru route, with an article regarding Maibara route coming later.
>apparently this re-evaluation includes Kyoto-skipping variants, via Fukuychiama to Shin-Osaka
>a variant that trades Shin-Osaka for Tennoji and continues to KIX was also proposed
>any route that goes Maizuru-Kyoto has failed Benefit/Cost calculations in the past, and is even less likely to pass them today
>but the routes that skip Kyoto could pass them due to much less complicated tunelling
>and small city governments could be more cooperative if they get stations
>author also theorizes potential mini-shinkansen to Kinosaki-Onsen
>that could also be a start for a San-in Mini-Shinkansen, which could increase the amount of political will behind the project and fit the "improvement of existing trunk lines", outlined in >>2048299
>the Itami airport could also gain from a station by it, but it's already accessible by the monorail so they might not need it
Overall I'm just glad that there is at least some recognition for skipping Kyoto.
>At Kansai Airport picking up my JR pass
>Get shoved into the gaijin line
>Speak fine moon, station attendant responds in English in the thickest hapa Amerilard accent
>Mention how I've never had a madoguchi staff member talk in English like that
>"Lol yeah I'm not actually Japanese"
JR West has fallen. Fucking disgusting.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:42:27 PM
No.2050284
[Report]
>>2050193
>mini-shinkansen to Kinosaki-Onsen
based, make it happen
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:04:05 PM
No.2050299
[Report]
>>2050283
As long as there's one nip attendant left alive I'd still rather just wait in line an hour.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:52:30 AM
No.2050313
[Report]
>>2050193
>government build shit where people actually want it instead of blowing the maximum amount of money possible
And all is right with the world
>>2050266
Top kek. At this rate I can't wait for them to actually hire gaijin to do the announcements on the actual trains, I'm applying for a job at JR West
>>2050283
Daily reminder the Japanese government can easily make it easier for Japanese people to work and stop letting the globalists push replacement migration. Hiro actually appeared on an Abema Prime segment where he talks about how plenty of people want to work but the government (globalist occupied Japan through the LDP) and large firms want to pay people next to nothing hence the low-value (as opposed to high-value that would import in the past) foreign workers
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:47:48 PM
No.2050335
[Report]
(Good news) They still stamp tickets for A-class berths at least (as they have to give you the amenity kit after all). Makes the 10時打ち hell worth it.
>why don't they just make black boxes out of the JR East ice cream?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:22:40 AM
No.2050369
[Report]
>>2050370
>>2050362
Is it tougher than regular ice cream-in-pots? Those are usually pretty tough if they're well-frozen.
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 2:26:18 AM
No.2050370
[Report]
>>2050369
Takes about 30 mins before scooping becomes practical. Definitely frozen well, the nip memes are real.
Anonymous
8/4/2025, 12:48:51 AM
No.2050437
[Report]
>>2054989
>Typhoon not fucking me over this time like two years ago
Finally going to make it unless an earthquake hits while onboard right now. Hopefully it's less damn hot up there too.
https://tabiris.com/archives/jre-neage-ranking/
>JR East is hiking prices in March 2026
>because previous raises were related to either tax increases or introduction of the barrier-free fund, this is technically the first actual raise since the privatization of JR East
>lowest fare will be 155¥ on IC/160¥ on a ticket(currently 147¥/150¥)
>7,8% on average of direct price increase
>but there is additional bullshittery
>"within Yamanote line" specific prices are gone
>the most affected distance is 16-20km range(like Shinagawa to Ikebukuro), going from 280¥ to 350¥(+25%)
>most "specific sections” set up to compete with private railways either abolished or have a lower discount
>Ueno/Ugisudani/Nippori/Minami-Senju to Narita City(NOT the airport) goes from 940¥ to 1230¥(+31%)
>Shinagawa to Kurihama goes from 950¥ to 1230¥(+29%), by the way the same route on Keikyu is 710¥ and 15 minutes faster
>in general every "specific section" meant to compete with Keikyu is gone
>Shibuya to Kichijoji remains a "specific section", but is still raised from 230¥ to 290¥(+26%, without it it would be 350¥, Keio is 230¥)
>Shinjuku to Takao also remains a "specific section", goes from 580¥ to 720¥(+24%, would be 810¥), Keio is 410¥
>the only "specific sections" that are untouched are between Yamanote line stations and Yokohama, mainly competing with the Tokyu Toyoko line
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 10:23:30 PM
No.2050626
[Report]
>>2049106
One downside I noticed is that this calculator will insist on the cheapest route's validity regardless of alternative routes.
For example it will insist that Tokyo - Nikko is not covered under Japan Rail Pass because the Tobu line isn't, even though you can take the Shinkansen to Utsunomiya and then the Nikko line to Nikko, and do it entirely with Japan Rail Pass.
>>2049231
It's not that you can't make the 1 week pass pay off, but it's rarely the best option when you do. I added a modified version of one of my itineraries that is 7 days instead of 14 and does everything as a daytrip from Tokyo(which isn't how I usually do things). It pays off, but it loses to buying the Niigata Nagano Area Pass for 5 days and doing the remaining 2 days on separate tickets. (TAP = Tohoku Area Pass, TWP = Tokyo Wide Pass)
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:12:36 AM
No.2050687
[Report]
Man tonight's filthy Soya back to Asahikawa committed at least 500 millihitlers of sesshoku-jiko on the poor insects of Hokkaido.
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 8:35:47 PM
No.2050760
[Report]
>>2050780
Can I buy a JR East pass at the airport and then reserve using the JR Train Reservation website, or does it have to be purchased online with the same account for JR Train Reservation to pick it up?
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:30:53 AM
No.2050780
[Report]
>>2050760
If you want to use the web reservation functionality for any pass needs to be bought online from JR direct.
>Norokko should've ended service last year because the rolling stock is ancient
>JR Hokkaido decided to keep it alive just one more year after making the 'necessary repairs'
>tfw onboard right now and rain leaking in
Pic related conductor making the 'necessary repairs' live. I love you JR Hokkaido but man you are so bankrupt.
>>2050808
And the green boi itself too I guess.
>>2050809
Also, is it the last train still operating with a squat toilet I wonder?
>>2050817
Squat toilets are actually based, but what were they thinking building it so you have to climb up to use it?
Just make it a hole in the ground, like the Fr*nch.
>>2050819
To fool westerners into sitting on the filthy foot pads maybe/stop them complaining about it not being sittable.
Also slightly prettier shot for the return.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 1:33:21 PM
No.2050829
[Report]
>>2050831
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:11:56 PM
No.2050831
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>>2050819
Actually thinking about it, it's probably to have a space to store the unchi. Otherwise you need to drop the mess onto the tracks, (which was still a thing in Hungary a few years back at least, they had warnings to please not poop while the train was at a station, since yeah...).
>>2050829
Ride it while you can it's gone after thus year.
Also not as special but this from Hiketa Station in Kagawa last week.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 2:21:29 PM
No.2050835
[Report]
>>2052756
>>2050820
Oh, and to answer the question no one asked of 'how does one buy a ticket at a special seasonal station that's just a wooden platform, but with too many people using it to do all onboard sales (Lavender Farm Station)', the answer is: Buy it from thr JR staff member literally selling tickets out the back of a Rape Van.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:06:14 PM
No.2050938
[Report]
>>2050939
>tfw visiting Minmaya station today and seeing the absolute state
Big sad. No one other than JR Shikoku and Hokkaido has an excuse to abandon unprofitable lines.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:07:25 PM
No.2050939
[Report]
>>2050941
>>2050938
Nice mountains though.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:08:29 PM
No.2050941
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>>2050942
>>2050939
Inside was musty but surprisingly looked relatively ready to operate.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:10:02 PM
No.2050942
[Report]
>>2050943
>>2050941
Also took the cablecar down to the old service tunnels from the Seikan Tunnel museum, glad they were able to crowdfund the repairs, as close as I'll ever get to Tappi-Kaitei.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:11:53 PM
No.2050943
[Report]
>>2050944
>>2050942
And an actual train too I guess, penetrating into Honshu.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:17:50 PM
No.2050944
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>>2050943
*Wait I lie that one was heading into the tunnel towards Hakodate.
Also hope someone keeps caring for the hydrangeas at the dead station.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:45:11 PM
No.2050952
[Report]
Well Suits didn't lie thankfully, the A class smoking berths don't smell very much at all (probably due to even non smokers frequently using them just to ride in an A class).
Almost wish I was a smoker just to experience the novelty (as it's the only smoking allowed train in the country now I think).
Anonymous
8/13/2025, 7:27:25 PM
No.2051257
[Report]
>>2051305
https://www.sankei.com/article/20250813-IMXLSVTPKFLK7L3KLOJ54W4LXE/
>撮り鉄の仲間内では無賃乗車は当たり前
Nani!? And that's not even the worst thing they did.
What the fuck is wrong with (some) toritetsu?
Anonymous
8/14/2025, 3:57:08 PM
No.2051305
[Report]
>>2051430
>>2051257
>5人は一緒に東京から新幹線を無賃乗車して
How is that even possible with the Shinkansen? Barrier jumping? Surely you'd be caught right away.
Anonymous
8/16/2025, 5:39:15 AM
No.2051406
[Report]
Murouguchiono Station this morning.
>>2051305
Article mentions that they came to Osaka. The only Shinkansen station in Kansai that isn't fully elevated is Maibara, and even then the side with the Shinkansen platform is elevated(see pic), so it's clear they didn't jump there. The only physically possible option for leaving without a ticket is
>got off at Maibara
>went to Tokyo-bound platform(Osaka-bound platform has a wall of windows so no fence to jump over)
>ran across all four Shinkansen tracks
>jumped what seems on Google maps to be a fence
>ran across all seven zairaisen tracks
>got on the Omi Railway platform
>all without getting spotted by anyone somehow
At this point I'm assuming forged or stolen tickets.
Anonymous
8/16/2025, 3:59:47 PM
No.2051435
[Report]
>>2051444
>>2051430
I meant more the ticket gate barriers but interesting game plan there. But I guess if the attendant is distracted maybe one could quickly vault over the jidou-kaisatsu.
Also Kintetsu was shit this afternoon seems there was a fire on some line somewhere.
>>2051435
The gates make a distinct noise when closing, and I believe they actually do make a new noise each time they detect a new person while closed. So if it rang 5 times the staff would notice.
A more viable option that came to my mind is buying platform tickets, having someone else at your destination also buy platform tickets, riding the train, meeting somewhere along the way, swapping platform tickets, and then getting off with that station's platform ticket. Not practical for most people, but if you have a whole community doing this, you could find someone who wants to go to where you are around the same time you want to go where they are, especially Tokio-Osaka.
Anonymous
8/16/2025, 11:37:55 PM
No.2051448
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>>2051444
So you effectively mean キセル, right?
Anonymous
8/19/2025, 10:26:59 AM
No.2051626
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>>2050487
>tl;dr bullshit reasons
The real reason for any price increase is because they can, and that you can and will continue to pay for it.
Anonymous
8/19/2025, 3:00:34 PM
No.2051645
[Report]
Spicy Smokey Kodama last Friday, turns out not all carriages are non-smoking:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20250816_07/
Anonymous
8/19/2025, 9:51:25 PM
No.2051659
[Report]
>>2052756
>>2051430
>>2051444
According to one of the news sites they apparently met with the collaborators at Shin-Kobe Station due to the security there being more laxed than Shin-Osaka and they used the platform ticket trick to do it. The question I have is that can you just insert multiple platform tickets into the turnstile at once just like you do with fare and surcharge tickets?
https://news.nifty.com/article/domestic/society/12136-4396972/
Anonymous
8/20/2025, 1:54:24 AM
No.2051671
[Report]
>>2051695
does a commuter pass for senkawa -> shinjuku sanchome on fukutoshin line, work for senkawa -> ikebukuro on the yurakucho line? it's a much easier transfer to jr when I need to do so, but idk if tokyo metro sees me exiting the yurakucho fare gate at ikebukuro any differently to exiting from the fukutoshin/marunouchi gates
Anonymous
8/20/2025, 5:38:21 AM
No.2051686
[Report]
>tfw looking at old JNR maps, especially of all the former lines in Hokkaido
It hurts so much.
Anonymous
8/20/2025, 9:10:43 AM
No.2051695
[Report]
>>2051797
>>2051671
>DE
>ドゥ
My French isn't the best, but なんでやねん!
Anonymous
8/21/2025, 2:24:15 PM
No.2051797
[Report]
>>2051695
Because Japanese only has five vowels, and the ウ sound is the closest to the actual French pronunciation.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/de#French
Anonymous
8/23/2025, 8:01:33 AM
No.2051934
[Report]
>>2052076
https://tabiris.com/archives/shinetsu-shinkansen2025/
Shin'etsu Mini Shinkansen feasibility study dropped
>four variants tested
>1: Nagaoka - Joetsu-Myoko Mini-Shinkansen
>3h30m from Niigata to Shin-Osaka, 1h9m from Niigata to Naoetsu
>0.9 to 1.4 B/C
>but it does require a switchback
>2: Nagaoka - Itoigawa Mini-Shinkansen
>time from Niigata to Shin-Osaka is basically the same because longer distance at 130km/h balances out the switchback
>but it skips Joetsu-Myoko and Takada, two biggest stations in that area
>this is enough to lower the B/C ratio to between 0.7 to 1.2
>3: 1. but without regauging and with more tunnels instead
>this is basically a meme and a waste of money and the 0.1 B/C ratio shows this
>4: building new track from Joetsu-Myoko to Kashiwazaki, which would connect with Hokuhoku Express(which would be dual-gauged) at Uragawara
>biggest coverage, and shortest construction time at just 9 years
>but because the whole Shin'etsu Mini-Shinkansen movement has been led by Kashiwazaki for 20+ years, it "needs" to be in every option
>so the tunnel from Uragawara to Kashiwazaki hikes the construction cost and therefore tanks the B/C to 0.5 to 0.8 range
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the same variant without the tunnel(with Kashiwazaki only speeding up to/from Nagaoka) was the best option by far, but it was not considered. In fact, because there has been a proposal of "Hokuhoku Express Mini-Shinkansen plus non-regaugung improvements for Kashiwazaki" before the coof, I wouldn't be surprised if the third variant was made purely to stop it from reappearing after this study.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hayate-utsunomiya/
In other news, JR East will trial having some Hayate stop at Utsunomiya. But only northbound. Wanna go back from your trip to Hirosaki? Fuck you, you're still transfering.
Anonymous
8/24/2025, 6:22:43 AM
No.2052018
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>>2052149
>>2047317
And now, if you thought it can't get any worse, I present to you: reserved long seats.
https://tabiris.com/archives/ureseat202510/
Anonymous
8/24/2025, 8:48:33 PM
No.2052076
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>>2051934
never happening lmao
Anonymous
8/25/2025, 4:15:49 AM
No.2052149
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>>2052018
Now that's fucking retarded.
>プレミア感はないけれど
You don't say~
Anonymous
8/27/2025, 11:49:44 PM
No.2052453
[Report]
>>2052459
>>2052467
>Next Shikishima service cancelled after crew gets on the piss onboard
Imagine paying 2,000,000 yen for a Shikishima ticket and the conductor vomits on you after raiding the passenger bar.
Anonymous
8/28/2025, 1:20:08 AM
No.2052459
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Anonymous
8/28/2025, 9:39:50 AM
No.2052467
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>>2052453
If she's cute, Nips would pay extra for that.
First the came for the interesting hosts, then they hired a generic Japanese moron, and now they've fired the prof and put in a generic gaijin moron in his place!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Most recent episode of Japan Railway Journal
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2049163/
Fuck the NHK
Anonymous
8/30/2025, 7:52:11 AM
No.2052652
[Report]
>>2052735
>>2052651
Noooo not the autistic professor this is unforgivable
Anonymous
8/31/2025, 9:52:09 AM
No.2052735
[Report]
>>2052736
>>2052652
https://tabiris.com/archives/nogata-shineki/
A new station on the Shinkansen between Kokura and Hakata might me built
>both local government and JR are interested
>but it'll be expensive
Anonymous
8/31/2025, 9:53:52 AM
No.2052736
[Report]
>>2052735(me)
I really need to fix that fucking bug in my custom script that unnecessarily quotes the last post, sorry.
Anonymous
8/31/2025, 4:36:02 PM
No.2052755
[Report]
>>2041651
Meitetsu Nagoya is known as the most chaotic insane station in Japan. Because they run so many trains to and from different directions from just two platforms.
>>2043060
JR West isn't building the Shinkansen . It's an organization called JRTT that spends oodles of government money then leases out the tracks to JR for dirt cheap prices. JR West doesn't give a shit if it's a stupid white elephant, because JRTT will lease the tracks to them in such a way that they are guaranteed a profit.
A fucked system all around.
Fuck JR West and the retarded Showa era shinkansen planning law that's still in use.
>>2043078
It doesn't matter because the maglev should be in place by then, so there will be plenty of spare capacity on the Tokaido shink by the time it's built.
>>2045721
The Shikoku shinkansen is an asinine dream that will never be built. The only argument for it is that all the other islands have a shink so it is unfair that Shikoku is excludeed. But when you look at the depopulation rate and the way cities in Shikoku are spread out instead of being along a single axis, it would ba a ridiculously stupid project.
Shikoku will be an uninhabited island by the time a Shinkansen would open in 2050
>>2048299
good. see above.
Anonymous
8/31/2025, 4:51:49 PM
No.2052756
[Report]
>>2052885
>>2050193
MP Nishida is a deep state believing lunatic who leads the Hokuriku shinkansen project team, but I wouldn't take his words seriously. He is absolutely nuts.
The Hokuriku shinkansen will forever be stuck in Tsuruga and that's that. Not the end of the world.
>>2050362
It's because they keep it in boxes with dry ice. Way colder than a freezer. But necessary because you're not going to walk around with a cart holding a battery powered freezer.
>>2050487
JR East is surprisingly doing a lot worse in their post-COVID recovery than JR West or Central. This is why they feel forced to do this.
>>2050835
LMAO wtf is this. JR Hokkaido is so Ghetto.
>>2051659
Those guys' names were put on public newspaperss and TVs. their lives are ruined forever.
idiots
Anonymous
9/1/2025, 9:27:00 AM
No.2052831
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>>2052651
It's never been more over. JRJ has fallen.
Anonymous
9/1/2025, 6:50:09 PM
No.2052855
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>>2052651
I'm still glad if Miki Clark got yeeted, I never liked her. Cathy Cat was fine tho
Anonymous
9/2/2025, 12:41:56 AM
No.2052885
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>>2052756
>LMAO wtf is this. JR Hokkaido is so Ghetto.
Yeah but it's still pure fucking TAMASHI, look at those cute as fuck frog magnets and shit holding the noticeboards up to the employee's van.
>>2035672 (OP)
>>2035672 (OP)
>Tfw blue trains no longer exist
>Tfw when no sex on blue train porn exists
>Tfw no long nights of drinking and staring out the windows of blue train anymore
Why is this timeline cucked
Anonymous
9/3/2025, 2:15:57 PM
No.2053006
[Report]
>>2053049
>>2052991
>>Tfw when no sex on blue train porn exists
No railway company would want to get associated with AVs.
There is only one company that does night trains in Japan, so unlike with those ever-so-often local train AVs, there is no way to do such a video without JR being able to sue the creators.
Anonymous
9/4/2025, 12:10:57 AM
No.2053049
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>>2052991
>>2053006
I reckon you could get away with it in a Sunrise Twin cabin easily enough, just need to make sure nothing in the footage discloses what the date of travel is and JR will never be able to figure it out.
Anonymous
9/4/2025, 2:31:53 PM
No.2053078
[Report]
>>2053283
>>2052991
>Tfw blue trains no longer exist
Counterpoint, pic related:
>Is a train
>Does long, overnight runs that allows you to stare out the windows in a communal lounge
>Has twin berths for sex-havers
>Is blue
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 7:12:09 PM
No.2053154
[Report]
I want a toy of this one.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 11:23:53 PM
No.2053167
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>>2053283
>JR East will only keep Cassiopeia's Twilight Suite car (SuRoNeFu26) for the Railway Museum while scrapping the other 11 cars
>Even the Twilight Express got a better treatment than that with four cars preserved in Kyoto
jfc
https://tabiris.com/archives/cassiopeia-hozon/
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:26:19 PM
No.2053283
[Report]
>>2053167
Depressing, also Suit did a video for the 10th anniversary of the Hokutosei's demise, was also depressing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQ7J8HOmYI
>>2053078
>Actually managed to get a couchette ticket for the overnight Ginga run from Kyoto -> Shingu on October 6 as I have a Kansai Wide Pass in that window
>However I've already seen every damn tourist spot from Kushimoto to Kumano and so won't really have anything to enjoy when I get there
[spoiler]I don't want to cancel it but it's rather pointless besides the trip itself, fug.
I know this is the Japan thread, but are trains in Taiwan or South Korea filled with the same amount of tism/soul one would get like in Japan? The only other place in Asia I've been to apart from Japan is HK, and the trains there were OK
Anonymous
9/16/2025, 12:57:45 PM
No.2053972
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>>2053944
Taiwan's a bit like that, lots of old and new Japanese-origin rolling stock and old wood stations, but mixed in are other things from South African and South Korea.
See the many Japanese tetsuota shilltubers on their Taiwan/South Korea trips
Anonymous
9/16/2025, 8:43:53 PM
No.2054005
[Report]
>>2053944
there are autistic railway enthusiasts everywhere, but in terms of the actual railways south korea and japan are quite different from what i know
Anonymous
9/18/2025, 2:39:24 PM
No.2054120
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>>2054214
hokuriku expansion is so comfy, finally zoomed directly to my favourite prefecture this summer, but what's going on with Echizen-Takefu? booked a hotel nearby only to realise it stole Shin-Takefu's name and has no trains except Shinkansen, so not useful for cheap day trips. my own fault for sloppy planning but still kinda odd
Anonymous
9/20/2025, 11:28:00 AM
No.2054214
[Report]
>>2054120
>hokuriku expansion is so comfy
No, because it results in more third-sector conversion bullshit.
HSR was a mistake, Zairaisen and 夜行列車 forever.
Anonymous
9/21/2025, 10:36:11 AM
No.2054287
[Report]
>>2054327
>>2054368
Should Hokkaido just merge with JR East?
Or at least JR East should get the profitable lines and the rest can go to third sector or converted over to bus service
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 3:22:25 AM
No.2054327
[Report]
>>2054287
>Why does the larger JR company not simply eat the smaller one?
What would be the benefit for JR East of taking on a company that's never made a single yen in profit since its establishment?
>and the rest can go to third sector or converted over to bus service
Third sector in Hokkaido is just a synonym for slightly-delayed-bankruptcy, and they'd still face the same issues as JR Hokkaido if they tried to offload them without going through the process one-by-one.
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 8:48:42 AM
No.2054333
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>>2054402
Why is Japan so obsessed with train lines being profitable? Just fucking subsidize lines that have some deficit. Generally the benefits of the rail line greatly outweigh the cost of the subsidy.
They have rural areas dying and cities bursting at the seams, they should either way have some policies to revive rural areas. Maybe eventually they wouldn't have to import all their food and be completely dependent on China who hates them and could cut off food supplies at any time.
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 4:18:56 PM
No.2054344
[Report]
>>2054348
Just bring back JNR.
I know Tokai would probably not want anything with that though
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 5:08:53 PM
No.2054348
[Report]
>>2054351
>>2054344
JNR was prolly the other extreme of inefficiency and overly politicized planning.
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 5:39:17 PM
No.2054351
[Report]
>>2054372
>>2054348
Sounds great, can't wait to ride the Shinky from wakkanai to nemuro or akiba to tsukuba in 2050 when I am in my late 50s
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 9:34:35 PM
No.2054368
[Report]
>>2054402
>>2054287
>Or at least JR East should get the profitable lines
there are no profitable jr hokkaido lines
the sapporo area lines just manage to make back their operating costs but lose money when capital costs are included
Anonymous
9/22/2025, 10:06:55 PM
No.2054372
[Report]
>>2054333
>Generally the benefits of the rail line greatly outweigh the cost of the subsidy.
JNR and then JR Hokkaido had some lines with revenue:operating expense ratios of like 1:2000+, there's no way they were making more 'benefit' when it cost 2000 yen to operate it for every 1 yen they made on those lines.
>>2054368
>the sapporo area lines just manage to make back their operating costs but lose money when capital costs are included
Even with the massive Sapporo station shopping area?
Anonymous
9/23/2025, 7:18:22 PM
No.2054416
[Report]
>>2054402
On the one hand I wonder how that figure is calculated. On the other, if you turn service so to shit that noone will want to take the train it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Like if you run three trains a day you still have maybe 70 or 80% of the cost than if you ran trains every 1-2 hours, but the service becomes disproportionately less attractive.
Anonymous
9/27/2025, 10:47:07 PM
No.2054735
[Report]
>>2054762
>>2054402
I think JRE is in control of the shopping center
Anonymous
9/28/2025, 2:53:16 AM
No.2054762
[Report]
>>2055122
>>2054735
>JRE is in control of the shopping center
How the FUCK did they let that happen?
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokuriku-enshin202509/
More Hokuriku Shinkansen extention news
>Political support for Maibara route is being withdrawn
>this is mostly the result of said politicians going to JR Central and being told to fuck off
>Seiji Maehara of Japan Innovation Party says that a "third option" will be formulated
At this point it's difficult to say if there can be any route that won't be opposed by someone since
>Shiga refuses new Shinkansen in it's area
>Kyoto Prefecture doesn't want to tunnel in it's northern parts for both monetary and environmental reasons
>Kyoto city insists on not going through anywhere near the city center
>JR West still insists on going through Kyoto
>and now they can't connect to Tokaido Shinkansen
>AND it needs to pass benefit/cost calculations
And on a related note:
https://tabiris.com/archives/hankyu-shinosaka2025/
Hankyu CEO says the new connector line to Shin-Osaka won't be opened on time
>"uncertainties regarding Hokuriku Shinkansen" make "commercialization difficult"
>it was meant to open simultaneously with Naniwa-suji Line
>and be a direct connection from it through Juso to Shin-Osaka
>but it's not even submitted for environmental approval
>now it's not clear if it'll ever be made
Anonymous
9/30/2025, 1:28:34 PM
No.2054915
[Report]
>>2055637
>>2054903
If enough politicians got together, or if the government as a whole did it, it's not exactly impossible. JR Central was birthed into the world by an act of the Diet, and an act of the Diet can do whatever including seizure and re-nationalization of JNR-era assets which was an un-deserved windfall for JR Central in the first place.
>Seiji Maehara
It's interesting to note that this is former Minister of Transport (failed attempt to make all highways free) with a Kyoto district, one-time Democrat Party leader (resigned from foreign national campaign contribution scandal), pals around with Shigeru Ishiba on TV specials as fellow railfans, only to take his "free education" caucus to defect to the Innovation Party that isn't actually led by any sort of Diet member but the actual governor of Osaka who is unprincipled enough to look to sell all of his votes to the LDP in exchange for making Osaka a "2nd capital" of the country...
Anonymous
10/1/2025, 8:48:34 AM
No.2054980
[Report]
>>2054903
>Naniwa-suji Line
they are still going with that plan?
Anonymous
10/1/2025, 2:21:53 PM
No.2054989
[Report]
>>2050437
I've always wanted to take a cozy trip on this when it's cold and rainy.
Anonymous
10/1/2025, 9:55:23 PM
No.2055025
[Report]
>>2038427
This ticket saved my Japan trip
>arrive in Japan early September
>plan involves daytrips and overnight trips out of Tokyo
>walk out of the Skyliner at Ueno past 8pm
>still very fucking hot and humid
>needed to change my shirt mid-day
>"what if I tried going north for the few hottest days"
>look at the weather forecast
>there's a typhoon coming
>and after it 2 days of 40 degrees celsius felt temperature in Tokyo
>remember about this ticket
>find out there is a ticket machine with a passport scanner in the Marunouchi entrance of Tokyo station
>"fuck this I'm definitely going north"
>visit Nikko like planned but via JR instead
>and add a second day for Lake Chuzenji which I originally planned to skip
>Sendai as base to visit itself, Matsushima and Yamadera
>Hirosaki as base to visit itself and Aomori
>come back to Tokyo after it got less hot and use it as base for Matsumoto and Yokohama
>free reserved seats for limited expresses and shinkansen
>(I did have to pay for the portion of Azusa that the pass doesn't cover)
I did lose some money because 3 nights weren't freely cancelable and I had to pay extra for some last minute bookings, but the trip I thought would be a bust became quite enjoyable(but still too hot and humid at times, seriously, don't visit Japan in early September like I did, next year I'll go in autumn or winter).
Anonymous
10/2/2025, 9:06:35 AM
No.2055064
[Report]
https://tabiris.com/archives/jr-kumaotokuko-line/
Kumamoto Airport line construction officially approved
>construction will begin in 2027, planned opening in fiscal year 2034(so up to March 2035)
>6.8km of new track from Higo-Ozu to the airport
>47 local services and 14 rapid services per day(both directions total)
>travel times listed as 7 minutes for rapid and 8 for local, implying the new passing point will become a station for local trains
>rapid should take 39 minutes to Kumamoto station
>fare adds up to 950 yen at current prices
>the track will be operated by JR Kyushu and owned by a 3rd sector
>Hohi main line will also get upgrades
>Tokai Gakuen-mae station will become a passing point
>passing points at Musashizuka and Haramizu stations will be reworked to allow simultaneous entry from both sides
It just feels refreshing, seeing that something will be built outside of Shinkansen and Tokyo/Osaka areas for once
Anonymous
10/2/2025, 11:24:07 PM
No.2055122
[Report]
Konan Railway in Hirosaki, Aomori has announced it will "suspend" its operations on the Owani Line (basically abandon and closing it) in Spring 2028
https://konantetsudo.jp/2025/10/02/20251002owani-line-oeration-plan/
>>2054762
If you are talking about the JR Tower, it is owned by JR Hokkaido
Anonymous
10/3/2025, 8:55:48 PM
No.2055176
[Report]
Anonymous
10/3/2025, 9:47:35 PM
No.2055178
[Report]
>>2056022
Odakyu Hakone Railway will retire the last of its MoHa 1 and MoHa 2 cars in early 2028. The MoHa1 cars initially entered service when the line first opened in 1919 as ChiKi 1 (MoHa 2 was basically the same but as ChiKi 2 in 1927) before coverted into steel body and renamed to the current designations in the mid 1950s
https://www.odakyu.jp/news/h3de760000009tyr-att/h3de760000009tyy.pdf
Anonymous
10/4/2025, 1:25:43 PM
No.2055231
[Report]
>>2055295
>>>/wsg/5988497
Too bad it's not real.
Remember, always railways with smile.
>>2055231
What is she doing with the hacksaw?
Also with the power of AI sloppa should be easy enough to make.
Anonymous
10/5/2025, 12:02:27 PM
No.2055308
[Report]
>>2055315
>>2055295
Cutting down trees to get a better shot.
There's been multiple cases of train spotters doing this, which is a criminal act as it involves the destruction of private property.
The most recent incident involving Shinano Railway resulted in the company ceasing to announce the operating schedule of their heritage colorway trainsets.
https://www.shinanorailway.co.jp/news/2025/09/10045.php
Anonymous
10/5/2025, 3:05:59 PM
No.2055315
[Report]
>>2055308
topjej, would like to see how much it helped the shot though.
Anonymous
10/6/2025, 1:37:27 AM
No.2055357
[Report]
>>2055367
>>2055295
>Also with the power of AI sloppa should be easy enough to make.
what should be easy enough to make?
Anonymous
10/6/2025, 9:38:20 AM
No.2055367
[Report]
>>2055357
sloppa:
>>>/wsg/5988866
>>>/wsg/5989035
>>>/wsg/5989073
>>>/wsg/5989370
>>>/wsg/5988825
>>>/wsg/5988654
Anonymous
10/6/2025, 11:44:30 PM
No.2055405
[Report]
Ginga has a guest book in the lounge now, new from last year, cute.
Anonymous
10/7/2025, 10:11:43 PM
No.2055529
[Report]
JR East will build a new diagnostic trainset to replace the E926 East-i in 2029, the E927 will be based on the successor of the E6 Series and has improved monitoring equipment
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2025/20251007_ho02.pdf
Anonymous
10/8/2025, 11:08:26 PM
No.2055637
[Report]
>>2055687
>>2053944
what makes Japan fun is the variety. Literally hundreds of train companies with different philosophies, completely different rolling stock, operations, uniforms etc..
Korea has mostly nationalised rail, so it doesn't have that fun variety.
The disadvantage of Japan is the variety means every single company does things differently. Thankfully at least now with IC cards the fare usually gets calculated automatically.
>>2054915
Seiji Maehara was responsible for the Haneda airport expansion and internationalization, which he forced through when he was MLIT minister. That project took years but is now bearing great fruit. Sadly he rarely gets the credit for it, because the results can only be seen a decade later.
Anonymous
10/9/2025, 7:43:58 AM
No.2055687
[Report]
>>2055814
>>2055637
https://tabiris.com/archives/ofuku-haishi/
On March 14th JR companies will abolish discounted round trip tickets and continuous tickets(A to B via D + B to C via D). You'll still be able to simultaneously buy two separate tickets at normal fare.
I'm hoping that stopovers will still be a thing by the time I go to Japan again next year.
https://tabiris.com/archives/tokyo-homedoor/
JR East will install platform doors on Tokyo Shinkansen platforms by 2028, presumably in preparation for their autonomous operation plans sometime in distant future.
Anonymous
10/11/2025, 10:49:12 AM
No.2055814
[Report]
>>2055687
>abolish discounted round trip tickets and continuous tickets(A to B via D + B to C via D)
The JRs are finally getting pricing right and throwing out the stupid (government set prices) and non-sensical way JNR set prices because they didn't know (or cared) how to make money.
Modern day revenue management is highly advanced and prices things just right in line with demand, etc. JR is taking baby steps but they're at least on the right path.
And it's not just all about making things expensive, you should see the discounts available for advance purchase in leisure-heavy markets. I paid just 3400 yen for Hakata -> Nagasaki and I was astounded how much the discount was during the off season against regular published prices (advanced, ticketless discount)
Anonymous
10/12/2025, 12:08:21 AM
No.2055847
[Report]
>>2035968
VERY cool. I miss Japan so much bros
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:45:24 AM
No.2055967
[Report]
>>2036196
>He isn't really bashing on foreigners getting better tickets, since for Japanese there similar (even better) deals abroad when they are the foreigners.
>The deal in Britain sounds amazing btw.
Yeah except it's not better because the 'deals' they can get are only for such nog-infested shitholes like Bongistan in the end, who the fuck would want to travel there over 日本。
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:44:35 AM
No.2056003
[Report]
>>2056004
>>2056007
Kami-Morioka Station on the Yamada Line today.
>>2056003
Also
>Only 7 damn runs a day on a line with relatively urban sections
JR East can't keep getting away with this killing-lines-by-making-them-impractical bullshit. And the timetable isn't even current, the 11:37 is a 普通 that's actually scheduled for 11:38.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:34:18 AM
No.2056007
[Report]
>>2056003
>>2056004
Looked it up, that line seems to be extremely kino what traversing the mountains and all. Would ride and autistically enjoy/10
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:21:46 AM
No.2056015
[Report]
>>2056046
>>2056004
IIRC this is one of the lines that JR applied for a government waiver of being a monopoly and does joint operation with the local bus company that is more frequent and takes slightly less time
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:02:14 PM
No.2056022
[Report]
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:47:35 PM
No.2056046
[Report]
>>2056091
>>2056119
>>2056004
For that line in question most of the eastbound trains stop at Kami-Yonai (two stops away from Kami-Morioka) and pretty much most of the trips from Morioka to Miyako are replaced by the Highway 106 Bus.
https://timetables.jreast.co.jp/2510/timetable/tt1565/1565050.html
>>2056015
So how does the monopoly waiver work?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:25:15 AM
No.2056091
[Report]
>>2056119
>>2056046
From this episode of Japan Railway Journal:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2049138/
The idea is that it's illegal for the sole train and bus operator to collude in a market (area south of Tokushima towards the Asa Kalgan Line), and a government waiver is required for JR Shikoku and the local bus company to jointly operate a combined timetable
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:14:33 PM
No.2056119
[Report]
>>2056091
>>2056046
In Switzerland it's simply illegal to offer vus services competing with train lines. They should do the same in Japan.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:32:01 PM
No.2056197
[Report]
>>2056273
I'm currently sitting in a shinkansen going from osaka to tokyo and I gotta say.. this is comfy, better than the ICE we got in Gemany imo
Anonymous
10/16/2025, 10:52:12 AM
No.2056273
[Report]
>>2056197
>better than the ICE we got in Gemany
Pretty low bar, no hordes of Akbars on the trains in Japan for one.
Anonymous
10/17/2025, 5:18:51 AM
No.2056329
[Report]
>>2056341
Hello Japan train enjoyers, besides Densha de Go! what other video games do you recommend?
Anonymous
10/17/2025, 10:07:16 AM
No.2056340
[Report]
>>2056413
Nasu-Shiobara station on Wednesday.
Anonymous
10/17/2025, 10:39:03 AM
No.2056341
[Report]
>>2056329
Railfan (driving sim), A-Train (city planning), Momotetsu (train-focused board game).
Also: Densha de D (Initial D on trains). Start with Lightning Stage on this one.
...thinking about it, I don't remember ever seeing a Japanese signal box sim. Odd.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:40:34 AM
No.2056413
[Report]
>>2056426
>>2056519
>>2056340
>Fellow trains we must let in more buses
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 3:10:51 PM
No.2056426
[Report]
>>2056482
>>2056519
>>2056413
>Open rail borders for buses
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:45:41 AM
No.2056482
[Report]
>>2056519
>>2056580
>>2056426
>All the negatives of a bus
>All the line maintenance costs of a railway
Actually how does this thing even exist over just a normal bus route?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:07:31 AM
No.2056519
[Report]
>>2056531
>>2056413
>>2056426
Buses out of railways, trains tracks for the trains, enforce (the railway law) and tow and impound them all!
>>2056482
Imagine if the government blew an incredible amount of money researching this through the R&D arm of JR that was never privatized (JRTT), was going to commercialize at a regional JR but failed, and then dangled some money for some small regional railway to do this instead.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:03:29 PM
No.2056531
[Report]
>>2056580
>>2056631
>>2056519
>and then dangled some money for some small regional railway to do this instead.
But was the R&D boondoggling not enough of a waste for some politician's buddies already? What was their ostensible argument though for doing it on that line and not just making it a normal bus route? Just seems to have no reason to exist.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:25:10 PM
No.2056580
[Report]
>>2056631
>>2056482
>>2056531
Look up the Tom Scott video on them, basically they admit part of the reason was a desire to make a quirky attraction for tourists to bring more interest into the region. Tokushima is the fastest depopulating prefecture in Japan. 720k in 2020 vs 675k in 2025, meaning -45k in 5 years or 1,25% per year, with half of municipalities dropping more than 2% every year, including those along this line. And it will get worse, since now there are a lot of people hitting 80, so the railways won't last if they keep on relying solely on locals.
Unless some rail directly to Kansai is built(not even Shinkansen, connecting Naruto line to Nankai via Awajima would be enough) I foresee population somewhere near 400k by 2050.
Anonymous
10/20/2025, 3:06:27 AM
No.2056595
[Report]
>>2056632
>Riding the Kishigawa line to go see the cat stationmasters finally the other week (absolutely packed with Chink tourists, seems they love the cat)
>Huh, this train sure is decorated with a lot of wood, I wonder who desi-
>No who am I kidding it's fucking Mitooka again isn't it
>Check via jewgle
>It's fucking Mitooka again
EVERY GOD DAMN TIME
Anonymous
10/20/2025, 1:41:53 PM
No.2056631
[Report]
>>2056531
You must realize by now when it comes to government pork, there is never "enough", it's how much you can get away with.
The small regional railway in question, Asa Kaigan Railway, was a former JNR route that halted construction, lawfully (by legislation) discharged from JNR, and taken over by the prefecture/local govt because it was local transportation and they didn't want it to shut down. In that sense, they are in fact allowed to discontinue the line, unlike the JRs who must keep on operating theirs NOT discharged by legislation from being essential service. That is, it's their local government's choice to keep it going.
Also, when your small town loses things like a railway, it just becomes bumfuck, middle of nowhere. What tourist is going to visit?
>>2056580
Tokushima prefecture fucked up royally by being over for the other 3 Shikoku prefectures and their stupid seto ohashi route for the Shikoku shinkansen. They should have negotiated their own deal with Hyogo (where awaji island is) for a route directly to booming Osaka that recent just got even more political power now that regional party Ishin is the government's new junior coalition partner replacing the cult Soka Gakkai
Anonymous
10/20/2025, 1:55:36 PM
No.2056632
[Report]
>>2056678
>>2056595
>Mitooka Eiji
His work for JR Kyushu had so much variety over the decades, but in at least the past 15 years (when many other train line hired him) it's very recognizable with similar wood, glass, cute small things, etc. I recently went on Two Stars 4047 going to Nagasaki and it was instantly recognizable (as an old Kiha refurbished to be a tourist train once by Mitooka, and then re-done again two years ago)
Anonymous
10/20/2025, 10:04:33 PM
No.2056678
[Report]
>>2056632
>it's very recognizable with similar wood, glass, cute small things
This is 90%+ of his work, the guy only has one look, not sure why people keep hiring him.
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 1:57:00 PM
No.2056823
[Report]
>>2056824
>>2056825
>Suits-san has been reportedly "awoken" by an influenza infection
>inb4 スーツ革命チャンネル
Leaving the jokes aside, I hope, he gets back up on his feet.
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 2:17:25 PM
No.2056824
[Report]
>>2056823
>私はブッダと同じになりました。
^I'm starting to worry, though. This is bad.
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 2:17:49 PM
No.2056825
[Report]
>>2056833
>>2056841
>>2056823
You mean スーツ 背広チャンネル, right?
I understand he's autistic and all, but why do people get off pretending a cold and flu is a big deal? He (like every other Japanese shilltuber) would have cringe videos of him pretending his wuhan flu was a big deal, etc.
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 2:33:16 PM
No.2056833
[Report]
>>2056835
>>2056825
Because it's a top 10 cause of death in every age group (wuhan flu was the #3 in 2021 but is no longer in the top 10 except for children under 5)
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 3:00:02 PM
No.2056835
[Report]
>>2056837
>>2056833
That's like saying you're more likely to die in a car than an airplane because it happens so often and is so commonplace. Pretending it's a big deal doesn't make an iota of difference, and the way they deal with it in Japan if you ever visit a doctor for this is they load you up on all sorts of drugs instead of telling you to take a few days off (heaven forbid if you use sick leave at work). This is literally the cause of drug-resistant bacteria that is so prevalent in Asia
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 3:11:20 PM
No.2056837
[Report]
>>2056835
>chinese farmers give their cows nontherapeutic antibiotics, therefore I'm going to cough all over you because I'm a strong self-reliant he-man who don't need no science
facebook was a mistake
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 4:17:25 PM
No.2056841
[Report]
Anonymous
10/22/2025, 8:29:21 PM
No.2056850
[Report]
Guys, is there any way to read old issues of とれいん in a digital form?
Anonymous
10/24/2025, 7:52:28 PM
No.2057033
[Report]
every time I take the saikyo shonan shinjuku yokosuka sotetsu link amalgamation line I am thankful I don't have to rely on this clusterfuck every day
Anonymous
10/24/2025, 8:22:54 PM
No.2057036
[Report]
>>2057155
aside: anything physically stopping a saikyo e233 from getting lost on sotetsu and ending up on tobu or seibu networks via toyoko/fukutoshin?
waiting for the day we have direct service from shin kiba (twr) to shin kiba (yurakucho)...
now I feel like riding that just to see how the fare is calculated
Anonymous
10/26/2025, 12:50:57 AM
No.2057155
[Report]
>>2057036
Train control systems are. E233-7000s can only go up to Shin-Yokohama station since they run on the same ATS system. Other than that its not equipped with the same ATO, CS-ATC, Tobu ATS, Seibu ATS required to operate. The Tokyu 5050s have 6 ATC/ATS systems on it for that reason.
Anonymous
10/28/2025, 6:17:12 PM
No.2057343
[Report]
>>2057382
>>2057656
JR East released 2024 lowest ridership lines list.
https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2025/20251027_ho01.pdf
I tried to make a list, but LibreOffice™ Calc™ is Fucking Retarded™ and keeps converting some numbers into dates in an irreversible manner even if I explicitly turn formatting off. All I can tell is that the worst section is the Naruko-Onsen - Mogami section on the Rikuu East Line at 31 passengers per day.
Anonymous
10/29/2025, 2:40:33 AM
No.2057382
[Report]
>tfw just realised after 10 years why the train is named Hokuto/Big Dipper
Ooooohhhhhh...
>>2057343
>All I can tell is that the worst section is the Naruko-Onsen - Mogami section on the Rikuu East Line at 31 passengers per day.
Is that not because the line is out of service perhaps with some bullshit bus replacement if any for that section? Same with the Tsugaru line. And sort of the same with the Yamada line with only three fucking services to Miyako a day.
Also why no numbers for BRRRRTT BRT BRT?
Anonymous
10/30/2025, 5:07:41 PM
No.2057469
[Report]
>>2057472
>リニア工事費、11兆円に 品川-名古屋で4兆円膨張、当初比2倍に―JR東海
https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2025102900840
Even in Japan...
Anonymous
10/30/2025, 6:35:34 PM
No.2057472
[Report]
>>2057469
japan hsr costs have ballooned for a long time
West JR will officially ends its 500 Series Hello Kitty Shinkansen service on March 2026 and the Hello Kitty Haruka will end in Summer 2027
https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/items/251030_00_press_hellokittyshinkansen.pdf
>West JR also released their "Lines with less than 2000 Rider/km/Day" figures between 2022 and 2024 with the 68.5 km section of the Gelbi Line between Bingo-Shouhara and Bitchu-Koujiro had three of the worst five in terms of operating ratios.
So business as usual then
https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/items/251029_00_press_johokaiji.pdf
>>2057600
How does JR Hokkaido manage to simply kill unprofitable lines left and right but the others seem to be stuck with them?
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 1:30:03 AM
No.2057607
[Report]
>>2057606
because it loses money overall
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 4:37:59 AM
No.2057611
[Report]
>>2057656
>>2057606
By law, local governments must consent to JR ending service on all lines transferred from JNR to JR (where not explicitly abolished by law). The difference is in Hokkaido some places are so rural or so far gone no one lives there anymore and it's not a hard lift for JR to get consent. The governor of Hokkaido is also anti-railway, and will not pay their part in any subsidy (which means national government only)
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 11:23:14 AM
No.2057649
[Report]
>>2057653
>>2057657
I'm sure it's been asked 300 times before, but I'm too lazy to check the archives: why is it that trains in Japan can crack 300 mph, but not in other places?
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 12:03:46 PM
No.2057651
[Report]
>>2057600
Out of the entire combined Geibi and Kishin lines stretching between Himeji and Hiroshima, the only profitable sections are:
>first 5 stations from Himeji
>first 4 stations from Hiroshima
>the short 3 station portion shared with Hakubi line which has all of the express trains from Kansai to Yonago/Izumo
Everything else has cost outweighing the profits between 7x(Miyoshi - Shimo-Fukawa) and 99x(Tojo - Bingo-Ochiai).
Another thing that surprised me at first was the Kure Line, but I guess Kure itself is outside this section, and tourists going to Takehara are probably taking a bus from the "Hiroshima"(almost closer to Fukuyama) Airport
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 12:43:25 PM
No.2057653
[Report]
>>2057649
There are 2 schools of thought on making trains go fast: 1) Make a powerful train that runs very fast, and 2) make the track a straight and smooth as possible such that a train can speed up and not slow down unless stopping at a station
The Shinkansen uses some of 1), but mostly 2), which is implied by its name as they built an entirely new track system for this purpose and hence the direct translation "new trunk line".
Many yuropoor places will only do 1), with very little of 2), so you get a similarly fast train but unless the track section is improved it must slow down to the speed of a regular train hence your average speeds come way down
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 1:55:03 PM
No.2057656
[Report]
>>2057707
>>2057343
>>2057611
In that case it seems like it would be smarter for the JR companies to try and promote usage of the lines losing money rather than offering some shitty 3-trains-per-day service and killing any potential for it attracting more passengers. At times investment in low-demand lines can get enough additional ridership that net deficit is reduced. But it sounds like Japan is still stuck with the mindset of
>if line has deficit because few passengers reduce service to save money
>line loses even more ridership
>deficit grows even further
>rinse and repeat
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 1:56:04 PM
No.2057657
[Report]
>>2057668
>>2057649
>trains in Japan can crack 300 mph
You probably mean 300 kph and they do in many places like France, Spain, Germany or Chyna
Anonymous
11/2/2025, 6:08:11 PM
No.2057668
[Report]
>>2057657
>Germany
No. 300 kph is the fastest trains go within Germany outside test runs.
If you want an ICE to reach maximum velocity, it needs to go to France, where it does up to 330 kph.
Anonymous
11/3/2025, 3:51:01 AM
No.2057707
[Report]
>>2057784
>>2057656
I think this is heavily dependent on the line. A lot of these lines with low ridership are in rural areas with low population, so even if they increase services, the increase in local ridership won't cover the increase in operating costs.
You could argue that increasing services will "feed" passengers into other lines, but I think the effects would be marginal since a) these areas have a low and decreasing population, and b) the average non-train fan does not like taking transfers, and a lot of these lines aren't even connected to the Shinkansen.
I think people are being a bit unfair to JR since the lines that generate the biggest losses - long lines such as the Uetsu main line and San'in main line that have limited express service - aren't the ones in discussions of being closed - it's the short ones with low ridership with infrequent services.
To increase ridership on lines in rural areas, there needs to be some "oomph" factor that attracts tourists. For example, there's little to no talk about JR East closing the Gono line even though it's unprofitable because the line runs along the coast and has scenic views, and JR East runs 3x daily Resort Shirakami tourist trains on the line. There's definitely more lines that could use this treatment (e.g. Tadami line), but most lines just don't have that attractive factor.
Anonymous
11/3/2025, 3:59:45 PM
No.2057723
[Report]
Aunt Matsumoto~ (Ueno~) finally retires from service on November 16th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFRF_Pvmhw8
Really too bad, and
>技術的な制約から音声データを引き継ぐのが難しくなったという
is obviously finest bullshit. It's not that they were technologically forced to change it: They want to change it (for whatever reason).
Anonymous
11/4/2025, 12:49:16 AM
No.2057784
[Report]
>>2057707
>Tadami Line
nta, can't forget the 27.6 km section of that line between Aizu-Kawaguchi and Tadami were in contention of closing after it was damaged by flood in 2011 and it took a few years before they decided to repair that section and finally reopened in 2022 with that part being downloaded to Fukushima Prefecture.
Anonymous
11/4/2025, 6:33:59 PM
No.2057843
[Report]
For anyone able to watch it, November 2nd's なんでも鑑定団 is a recommendation.
The value of a Blue Train headmark collection gets determined and before that there is a look back at the history of those trains.
It's at the end of the show, so skip ahead, if you don't feel like watching the rest.
Anonymous
11/5/2025, 11:48:43 AM
No.2057937
[Report]
Like my socks I bought from the train museum? I have been on the KiHa 85 so it's nice to commemorate my journey.
Anonymous
11/5/2025, 2:51:38 PM
No.2057959
[Report]
>>2057984
>Keihan spent a billion dollars to build this tiny ass Nakanoshima branch line that is basically a stone's throw from the main line anyway
Literally for what fucking purpose?
I'm never ride the shinkansen again now that they took out the smoking rooms. Was one of the best parts to be able to light a cigarillo and watch fuji go by. It was less than half a car come the fuck on. At least have it for gran class or green car customers. Might as well just fucking drive then. Took gran class from Tokyo to hokkaido was alright but they could have done more with the cabin
Anonymous
11/5/2025, 5:06:20 PM
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>>2058032
>>2057959
relieving pressure from the cramped yodoyabashi terminus
Anonymous
11/5/2025, 6:37:23 PM
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>>2058032
>>2057966
First time I came to Japan they had smoking cars. Wasn't even that long ago. Sucks that they got rid of the smoking rooms as well.
Anonymous
11/6/2025, 12:13:18 AM
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>>2057984
Just make Yodoyabashi bigger?
>>2057966
>>2057999
You can in fact still smoke in a train while looking at Fuji. Get a standard 'Single' smoking berth on the Sunrise in the direction of Tokyo, on the Fuji side, in summer, and you can see Fuji out the window in the early morning light around 5 AM.
Last train you can smoke on in the entire country so be quick (not including the Okumanchouja-oriented Shikishima and friends of course, some of which do have smoking rooms still I believe).