I can't fucking wait.

>>2039599 (OP)
>light fail
build a real fucking train

>>2039607
It's going to be built on an existing railway line so to all intensive purposes it'll be heavy rail except maybe they'll use LRT-type vehicles if demand is low.

>>2039599 (OP)
>Getting around the city without going through Manhattan
>Not so many stops that it's barely faster than walking
>Subway (and presumably bus) connections out the wahzoo
>Even goes to the LGA station
What witchcraft is this!?

>>2039649
what LGA station are you talking about

>>2039652
The Jackson Heights stop with connection to EMFR7 has a free bus connection to the airport. Q70 iirc.

>>2039656
I forgot this is america where a mass transit station counts as "the airport stop" as long as it's within a 45 minute taxi ride from an airport terminal, meanwhile in other countries you roll your carry-on bags off the plane and out the security checkpoint and there's the train to the central business district. cue the low IQ boomer here who screams at me for being a godless america-hating terrorist any time I suggest things could be in any way better whatsoever (yes baconrider I know it's you)

>>2039599 (OP)
This would be huge but also it should extend to the Bronx if it really wants to be truly elite outer borough transportation

>>2039599 (OP)
I expect half the stops to be removed. This might be a case where they make it look like it serves a lot of people to get politicians greenlight it.

>>2039663
In Vancouver Canada we got a direct airport train :)

>>2039663
in Atlanta the station is inside the main airport terminal.

>>2039599 (OP)
How about they just run more outer borough trains? The fucking D train should not be in the conditions it has been.

>>2039599 (OP)
What's the point of linking Jackson Heights with Dyker Heights/Bay Ridge? Two random and irrelevant places.

>>2039616
why wouldn't they just use heavy rail then? It's new york fucking city

>>2041617
I live in Queens, there are quite a few people who do commute every day to south Brooklyn and getting there by mass transit is a pain in the ass, driving is even worse because every highway that goes from Queens to Brooklyn is horrific.

I think the MTA is half-assing the project, but I'll take what I can get.

>>2039607
I don't understand why they're still going with light rail, especially since they announced that they're going to tunnel under the cemetery to avoid street-running in Middle Village. You'd think it would be easier logistically if they could draw from the same pools of train cars that the rest of the subway uses. Buying a new fleet of light rail cars means people have to be trained on how to drive and maintain them, and if some are taken out of service they can't just pull cars from other parts of the system to make up for it like how they put R46s back on the G recently.

>>2042256
>Buying a new fleet of light rail cars means people have to be trained on how to drive and maintain them, and if some are taken out of service they can't just pull cars from other parts of the system to make up for it
Sounds like a great deal for Alstrom and the bureaucrats getting kickbacks from them. Only people getting fucked by that would be taxpayers.
Definitely sounds like NYC.

They need to upzone the areas around this if they want to keep it funded and have decent ridership. A lot of these place are low-density and are ripe for new housing. Could also use some streetscaping to be more pedestrian-friendly but it's not urgent.

>>2042160
I'd actually love to know the answer to this

>>2042600
People might use it. It's usually as simple as that. Doesn't matter which city or country you're in.

>>2042160
>>2042600
probably to make it sound like no big deal so when it inevitably gets axed because of some political issue the supporters can frame it as a very light and low-impact ask that the recalcitrant outerborough chuds hated because they are stupid and don't know what's in their interests

>>2042256
>>2042332
Since it's an active freight line the cars need to be FRA compatible so they can't use normal subway cars. They could use the Staten Island Railway cars though.

>>2042256
>, there are quite a few people who do commute every day to south Brooklyn
No there aren't. No one's commuting to Dyker Heights from Queens. If there's like 6 people who do, they can take the R.

>>2043225
Yeah let's build a light rail through the most pointless and destitute parts of NYC. It'll make it easier to go from one projects to another.

>>2039599 (OP)
It's never going to get built.

>>2044165
yeah god forbid the MTA actually do something that helps normal people get around

>>2044183
There's the bus if you really need to get to East New York.

>>2044212
and how often do you take the bus in your area?

>>2044225
All the time. What is your point? Whether I take the bus or not, there is no justification for light rail or a subway line connecting Jackson Heights to Dyker Heights through East New York. People in Dyker Heights don't go to Jackson Heights. People in Jackson Heights don't go to Dyker Heights. No one goes to East New York unless you are so unfortunate as to have to live there.

>>2044378
>why should we waste money on a ____ if nobody uses ____
I thought you people didn't go on /n/

>>2043333
That's interesting; source?

>>2044379
>let's fund a transit service for no fucking reason
I thought you people posted on r*dd*t

>>2044702
>transit service isn't useful unless it makes property developers in greenpoint and LIC richer
I thought you people posted on tw*tter

Most of the ROW is a working freight line and part of it has a pipeline that carries jet fuel to JFK and was the target of a half assed terrorist plot years ago. There’s room for another track as it was double tracked back in the day when they were hauling lots of freight from the carfloat barge yards in Bay Ridge roundabout to the Hell Gate bridge as a way to bypass bridges over the Hudson. Most of the line is below grade so building a passenger line wouldn’t interfere much with the neighborhoods but I just don’t see it happening given the state of the MTA.

>>2043225
its like someone created a certified hood line

>>2045127
>certified hood line
>doesn't even go through Corona and Jamaica

>>2044419
NTA but, FRA can be waived for conventional/light rail sharing trackage if temporal separation can be demonstrated. For sharing right of way, but not trackage, intrusion fence/crash wall can be constructed instead.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/appendix-A_to_part_211
https://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/circulars/ec058/08_04_sela.pdf

I can't see how 5-car A Division sets wouldn't be a good fit. The MTA is about to order R262 subway cars.

>>2045277
is corona really considered "the hood"? leaving the bronx out of NYC maps has been a disaster for the human race

>>2045639
Give the Bronx back to Westchester.

>>2045698
have you been to yonkers? the bronx is way better off being part of NYC and I don't want a yonkers on my doorstep, the buffer is good

>>2045707
Western Yonkers is nice.

>>2039599 (OP)
why does it seem like every time they expand an old and renowned metro system in america, they always build a light rail or some meme diesel multiple unit piece of shit

>>2046140
Because those are always initially pitched as less expensive than conventional metro systems using the logic of light = cheap, heavy = expensive.I seriously believe in the minds of bureaucrats (generally ignorant of most issues they vote on), that is how the decision is made. In practice I'm not certain how much more expensive heavy rail would be, if it is at all, after you factor in all the graft, waste, and corruption that goes with big government public works projects.

>>2039616
>so to all intensive purposes
>light rail advocate
Story checks out