Boeingbros', saaaar, it's happening again.
Yeah I think we can scratch that one.
>>2043626200 hour FO raised the flaps instead of gear which you can't really pin on Boeing.
>>2043637Boeing undercarriage claws typed this post.
it was me I used the power of my western racism to cause a double engine failure.
Well it gave a mayday call and the now deceased FO had 1100 hours....but who knows we're just asking questions here!
good morning sirs
do the sneedful and retract the landing gear
>>2043640'was'
he was an LTC with 8,200 hours
Is this whistleblower still with us?
>>2043646He was probably on the flight
Is there a way to manually retract the gear in a Shartliner in case of a software bug?
>"Saar, saar, mayday"
>"Air India 171, reason for mayday saar?"
>"I made a bad takeoff"
>"...sir, you have already taken off from Ahmedabad."
Those brave pilots held on as long as possible so the injured would be close to a hospital.
jfc it went down like a graceful brick.
>>2043654lucky someone put a big arrow and circle on that video
>check twitter
>see post-crash images
>see bodies
>they're utterly cooked and mangled
Jesus.
Intercontinental flight carrying a shitload of fuel, crashing into a very densely built place, I'm gonna have to call it. Nobody survived this. This is a totally unsurvivable crash.
So, it happened AGAIN. We can blame DEI, we can blame cuts, we can praise Oterberg effort but the truth is it's simply not enough. Engineers, suits, you name it, it all stinks.
Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in Dennis and the lads, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed in the summer. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about this season, or our chances in beating the pesky Eurochads for that matter. Not making airplanes like this.
How long until the hungover mutt /gag/ 787 pilots wake up? They are going to have a very bad day.
>>2043656The guy in gray shirt got insanely luck it seems
Flying will be fun they said.
>>2043666next level Boeing cope
>>2043616 (OP)IF IT'S BOEING
How many more incidents like this before Boeing just calls it a day and gives up on airplanes?
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>>2043632It's a 9 hour flight and all that fuel is burning now
>>2043677why are there so many nargars in india
Someone ai what boeing's boardroom looks like at the moment.
It literally crashed in a med school, specifically a hostel and doctor's residence. kek. It can't get more brootal than this. pic rel is the hostel's mess/cafeteria
wtf isn't the 787 supposed to be one of the good models?
>>2043685The cobwebs on the ceiling.
Fucking filthy cunts.
>>2043616 (OP)What could cause double engine failure so quickly after takeoff? Flock of pigeon?
>>2043685they should mount those outlets a little higher
>>2043689have you seen people sitting on top of indian trains?
they were probably sitting on the engine and got ingested
>>2043691>>2043685>BJ medical collegekek, still feel sad for burning jeet bros, especially the doctors and med school students who must having lunch in their residence or canteen when the crash happened
>>2043686i think it was the last non-jeet made boeing
>>2043654wow thanks for the red circle, i wouldn't have seen the airplane otherwise
fucking jeets and their fried coomer brain that requires being bombarded by constant nigger-tier stimuli
>>2043689yeah maybe a bird strike or a fuel problem?
>>2043659Why not just blame jeets? They made the plane, they programmed the plane, they flew the plane, they crashed the plane. Boeindia.
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>>2043694>jeet brosNo such thing.
>>2043699based durgasoft
training over 1000 developers in a single room
>vultures circling to the right
well at least the back bit held up ok management bonuses all round
>>2043640Double engine failure?
Or single failure and pilot fuckup?
>>2043686The design might be ok but there's been whistleblowers saying the quality control in the factory is dogshit and rejected parts are being pulled out of the skip to put into planes to get them finished on time.
>The police chief in Ahmedabad says there appears to be no survivors from the plane crash, according to reports from the AFP and AP news agencies.
Gear down, flaps up, RAT deployed?
>>2043639WHY'D YA DO IT ANON????
>>2043697Do the engines sound spooling down in video?
This is a first for the 787 right? I mean it's got almost a 15 year flawless record until now.
100% pilot failure, something retarded, lack of thrust and/or lift.
>>2043701Is there any of those indians who let the vultures eat dead bodies near airport?
Dual engine failure is just not a thing right? Not unless you intentionally flame them out or run into a Sully sitch.
>mayday
>RAT deployed
How many double engine failures have there ever been? The Sully one and BA into Heathrow where the fuel valves iced up, problem fixed.
Only two I recall? Running out of fuel and a few similar retardation events but that's not on takeoff.
People gonna blame Boeing cus agendas, but considering the country it happened in we all know this was likely caused by some maintenance fuckup or piloting error. Air India has a bad reputation even amongst pajeets, so go figure..
>>2043719Is the rat deployed? I can't tell from the video.
Querying minds want to know! kek
So many questions and few answers.
>>2043721Idk I'm just parroting unsustantiated claims from the internet m8.
>>2043654desu it looks like they had no power and started pulling. you'll run out of airspeed quick doing that and then it is a brick
>>2043654both engines look fucking ded here for real
>>2043616 (OP)do you think anyone on board thought about software best practices for a second as it went in
>>2043616 (OP)So who is to blame? The pilots (Indians), Boeing (Indians), ground crew (Indians), or the airline (Indians)?
Awake! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!
MotherFucking ground all the 787 immediately! You Fucking Boeing Cocksuckers, there will be an accounting! We're gonna figure the Fuck out what just happened here and you won't Fucking get away with this! You reign of terror and villainy is about to come to an end you Shitbirds!
The land of the free really loves their lawyer enabled corporate manslaughter with no comebacks huh.
>>2043719Jeju earlier this year seemed to experience one
>>2043720>People gonna blame Boeing cus agendasYeah, it's just because of agendas that people hear about a Boeing crashing again and assume it's their fault. Not the laundry list of crashes due to poor design and quality control over the last few years, or the fact the company admitted in court to being guilty of criminal behaviour and lying to the FAA, or the numerous whistleblowers speaking up about the company cutting corners and violating its own safety procedures.
>>2043730whites and or pakistan
>>2043733do something about it faggot
>>2043659You have Indian pilots on a 12 year old plane. You can't pin this shit on us, pajeet.
>>2043704Fuck you, if I have another quality buy off on a torque value for a Torx 7 screw I am going to scream. Whistleblowers are fucking stupid and don't know shit about shit.
>>2043736Bloody Britishers fault. If they never stole our 45T we will be utopia by now
The anti-boeing fag doesn't realise this is the first crash of a 787 since its introduction in 2009
>>2043735>last few yearsThis aircraft was 12 years old
>>2043742>Whiteblowers claim 787 quality control has gone to shit>787 crashesAlmost like they're related somehow. Who the fuck can simp for Boeing with a straight face after fuckup after fuckup for the last five years?
Can we finally talk about parachutes for passengers yet or nah? We just gonna pretend that lifesaving tech doesn't exist?
>>2043737The only thing I need to do is never set foot on a mutt extinction machine and I'm already doing that.
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I cursed them to hell, as our boeing fought the swell
Our plane danced like a moth in the firelight
White horses rode high as the devil passed by
Taking souls to Hades by twilight
47 years have gone by and Iโve ended my Flight,
My passenger's ghosts walk beside me.
Well a pilot I came and sure I'll die the same,
On a foggy morning you will find me.
>>2043744>pajeet detectedDon't you have a cow to rape today?
>>2043720That was also Boeingโs original excuse for Ethiopian Airline 302.
>>2043656let me see let me see let me see!!
Why would they do this to a decapitated head?
https://files.catbox.moe/q29d6v.mp4
>>2043751>shitddit memeGo back to shitddit
>>2043735>>2043744And said whistleblowers being killed off one after another before they can present their case. This could be unrelated to anything boeing did, but it's natural for them to be the nยบ1 suspect at this point.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/second-boeing-whistleblower-dies
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703
>>2043747Parachutes wouldn't save anyone in this case, not enough time for the passengers to evacuate or altitude for parachutes to deploy.
>>2043747>We just gonna pretend that lifesaving tech doesn't exist?>still way less crash than in the 70sYou do realise being on a plane nowadays is much safer than being in a car, yet in a car you have livesaving tech like airbags and crumple zone
>>2043755I hate shitjeets so much it's unreal
>>2043757Total Shitjeet Death
>>2043757buy a shower, buy a deodorant, use them both everyday and only THEN start posting here
>>2043757>go back to shiddit with your heckerino racism
>>2043760>You do realise being on a plane nowadays is much safer than being in a carSafer per mile or per trip?
>>2043769>seat 11A>british>kumar ramesh
airbus multiculturalism: give me the best engineer possible
boeing multiculturalism: give me the cheapest brown possible
>>2043685Horrible, it looks everything is destroyed. Now post a picture of the building after the plane crash
>Engine failure
Boeing being shit as usual.
>>2043771Hence why in airbus you see more Chinese engineers but they're good engineers = no fatal crash
>>2043771>boeing>shows a crash from a Russian planeWhat did xhe mean by this?
>>2043777Nice fake propaganda, boeing cow licker
>>2043779Cope, boeingtranny
>>2043771I too would rather have more money and use cheap labor from India if I had a big company like boeing. Wouldn't any sane capitalist company do that as well?
>>2043780>calling me a boeingtard when he's one and im an airbuschad Retard alert
>>2043717There are parsis in Gujarat so probably.
I'm on p1 of the 9 page pprune thread I'll tell you what happened when I get to the end.
>every body found is charred beyond recognition
>one fucking guy just walks away with a couple cuts and bruises
>>2043773For being an autist, you're pretty fucking stupid still.
>>2043786He must've been on the back of the plane
This guy was on the same plane that crash today, he complained about the plane having many issue, such as low power, no air conditioning, stuff that doesn't work, etc. and claims that Air India is one of, if not the worst airline. Thoughts, should we blame Air India or Boeing?
https://files.catbox.moe/i5x393.mp4
>>2043789See
>>2043770Minister died in 12A
>>2043646Yes. The one that died this year just before testifying court, and is a conspiracy theory to suggest anything untoward happened, is John Barnett, he initially made his claims in 2017. The one that made the claims last year is Sam Salehpour.
>>2043791>AC not workingIs even possible to survive in an aircraft at FL360 without functioning AC?
This looks like attention whoring to me.
remember there are /pol/ threads about this if you want to spill verbal diarrhea about boeing and indians instead of actually discussing it
>>2043699you guys must all be literal kids if you've never seen a scammy no-name agency promising easy jobs at a high-status company (just send us your social security number and credit card details for the background check trust me saar)
>boeing high status implying implicationsa boeing avionics programming job still looks great on your resume no matter how many planes they crash
>>2043801No sign of engine trouble at all, no smoke or anything. Climb rate looks ok, then it just sinks. Spooky. My guesses: pilot error, electrical or computer issue.
>>2043799will eat naan bread in your honor saaaaaaaar
>>2043801Would the plane still be able to climb if you mistakenly retract flaps instead of the landing gear?
>>2043804What kind if pilot error can cause loss of thrust like that?
It looked like the engines just gave up.
>>2043801damn it just stops climbing
>>2043804That big cloud of dust on rotation doesn't look suspicious? Looks like the engines ingested something like in the Concorde crash.
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Fucking hell there's a survivor
>>2043807There's no way you could confuse the two, but if the plane wasn't going fast enough and you retracted them then it could stall.
>>2043807Those kinds of mistakes happen because one control is too close to another or too similar to another or the same lever does multiple things. Like mistaking right/left engine, or feather levers instead of power levers, or power levers pulled back past a detent is the shutdown command. Even if the pilot is incredibly incompetent, tired, or on drugs, I don't see how they could mistake a gear lever (on the dashboard, little tiny knob) for a flap lever (large, next to the power)
>>2043801Yeah this really makes you want to immediately get on one of these retarded air velocipedes. God gave us legs not wings.
>>2043811no expert but I assume that's what like 'jet blast hits dry dusty grass' looks like.
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>>2043814Mate they're nowhere near and nothing like
>>2043811I'd put money on it just being dusty
>>2043811Ahmedabad is hot, dry and dusty af.
>Flaps were deployed
>RAT was deployed
Electronics failure?
>>2043817Yes, that is what I said, what's with the "mate"
>>2043820It's a fucking battery fire again
>>2043821it's a bot designed to get people angry at each other so they're no longer talking about boeing murderplanes
>>2043821>>2043823Nah i just misunderstood what you said, my apologies, I'm not a bot
>>2043824Now he's apologizing.. on 4chan.. he's definitelz a bot.
>>2043825>a bot claiming someone is a bot to shift the attention away from themtypical bot behaviour
Let's hope it isn't a repeat of that ANA 787 bug that shut down both engines
>>2043616 (OP)At least they weren't hit by a train.
>>2043820Doesn't the RAT only deploy if both engines are out?
Sounds like double engine failure, or single failure and retarded pilots turned off the working engine
>>2043719>How many double engine failures have there ever been?747 flying through an Indonesian volcanic ash cloud. Sorry. That would be a four engine failure.
>>2043751>if you don't lick a criminal corporation's asshole you're a pajeetkys kike
>>2043812Retarded fake news.
Or
Luckiest bastard of the year. He somehow didn't get hit by the fire blast.
Finally get to see the aftermath of a plastic airplane crashing.
>>2043832>Defending pajeetsDon't you have a nation to collapse, Goldberg?
>>2043838>>2043812Always wondered how plane crash survivors get home. I don't think I'd ever get on a plane again.
>>2043800saaar, durga is no no-name agency, also mr. nagoor babu is a weapon of java and real-time certified java expert and teaches at durga. you can't get better than that saar
>>2043842Sorry but I can't see "durga" without thinking of this self-important hipster perfume brand, I wonder if the owner is indian
>>2043659Just. Stop. Hiring. Browns.
That's literally all you have to do. You know what's wrong with your hiring policies, stop doing that retarded fucking shit. Stop it.
>>2043843it migth be mr. durga sir's!
If you think this was the fault of an incompetent pajeet you should buy Boeing stock because it will recover if it was not a technical issue.
>>2043839>risk of premature failureWhat does that actually mean
>>2043838The footage isn't astonishing, it's just a guy walking. It needs him srambling out of the wreckage.
>>2043847it means share this to all your friends on facebook and be performatively angry
>>2043839>salehpourJeet detected, opinion rejected
>>2043685What a depressing building. I'd kms if I had to be there.
>>2043784What do you have so far?
Nearly as retarded as this thread but they confirm RAT.
https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/666472-plane-crash-near-ahmedabad-16.html
>>2043755subhuman animals
>>2043858>>2043860>retards>retards who haven't read the thread but keep posting anyway>anybody who knows anything leaves quickly>but some 787 pilots early on say hurr you can't just fuck up the flaps on takeoff because it will stop you doing that in a variety of ways>people who have heard some serious RAT shit say they hear a RAT>RAT is seen on pics at the end
>>2043755not clicking your virus, what am I missing
>>2043864plain go down not up
>>2043747>parachutes for passengersThis is a joke right? You really think people on that flight would have been saved by a fucking parachute?
>>2043864saaaaaaaaar, the flaps saaaaaar
>>2043786That Bollywood remake of Unbreakable is wild.
>>2043867>This is a joke right?Yes this is standard crash /n/ 3/10 b8
>>2043863>you can't just fuck up the flaps on takeoffamazing that any actual pilot would say that
in the 90s, the 757 was supposed to have so many control and failsafe systems that an in-flight flap asymmetry wasn't ever going to happen, and then it did
>>2043864I thought it's not possible anymore in this thing to start with wrong flaps. Did Boeing do a sneaky secret update again?
>>2043873who knows, got it from here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfNBmZy1Yuc&t=1291
>>2043801>They rotate at 16s>The apex is at 30sWith inertia and gear remaining down issue happened few seconds before that, around 22-26 seconds into the video? Would explain why gear remained down.
>Descent starts at 32s>35 seconds right wing dips or plane yaws>38 seconds wings level and appear to remain that way until impact
>>2043864Whenever I have a plane crash nightmare it always happens like this.
>>2043881Being on a plane full of jeets is really nightmare fuel.
>>2043881stressful sex life?
h-here we go
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youtuber posted a kind of unconfirmed statement, which might be also correct, looking at the CCTV video
"cant tell you my source, but it was compressor stall on the right hand engine during the takeoff roll, plane nearly overran the runway causing debri to go into the left engine and loss of thrust"
https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/666472-plane-crash-near-ahmedabad-17.html
>>2043755So many fucking >people, no wonder they're invading every single country in the world.
>>2043864SAAAAR REDEEM THE FLAPS YOU BLOODY BENCHOD BASTERD
>>2043639Thank you for your service.
>>2043755you could power the world with the seethe the 1% of indians who are actually human have
>>2043865a bunch of jeets taking photos of a decapitated jeet head
>>2043896>>2043865the fella what films it also thinks he has to show himself, selfie-wise, being there, with the black smoke of the fire in the background
>>2043877kek, damn. The McDonnell Douglas merger truly was boeing's biggest mistake
>>2043888aren't compressor stalls usually accompanied by loud bangs and flames?
>>2043881holy fuck you too? I've dreamed about a airliner falling into my backyard like 3x
>>2043812>Vishwash Kumar Ramesh, a British nationalwew lad
>>2043755you can't decapitate a head; decapitation is removal of the head
>>2043908what if they chopped the regular head off the two headed militia guy from total recall
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>>2043888>>2043902Yes, they're usually quite visible. I didn't see any rudder deflection or yawing apart from that one wiggle near the end. So if it was engines, seems to be both.
In the other video it looks like the RAT deployed, suggesting total electrical failure.
>>2043912Inb4 another single engine failure where the pilots then power off the wrong (working) engine
They'd have been ok in a DC10.
>>2043914I hope you're wrong because if it's that stupid I'm going to have a fucking seizure.
>>2043924It already happened before
>>2043928True, which is why it's now specifically taught as a thing.
>>2043914plane's too level all throughout, no rudder action to speak of, doubt that
full flaps samir you are breaking the plane
Humanbros...we got too cocky...
>>2043941These people voted for Trump btw
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>>2043941AI=Actually Indians
>>2043943>saar only joke saarWhat a slimeball
>>2043801maybe overweight or miscalculated, rotated too soon, stalled.
>>2043801Everything fine until takeoff, looks like it lost power at 0:24 (and from both engines because it doesnยดt yaw at all), from that point the pilots try to fly it level but it starts stalling at 0:36 (slight roll/yaw motion), and then it just keeps falling. If it was the flaps being removed it wouldn't have kept flying level for a few seconds.
>>2043941If human error was at fault, this statement will age badly. Id literally trust AI more than a 3rd world pilot
>>2043719If one is acting up an the retard in the cockpit turns off the wrong one, then it's now a double engine failure.
>>2043716The issue I have with the "lack of thrust and/or lift" is the RAM prop. being deployed aka both engines weren't operating.
>>2043952Both engines were not operating which is confirmed via RAM prop. being deployed.
>>2043957Plane keeps flying level.
Thrust lost equally from both engines.
>>2043963maybe fuel problem?
>Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
>Air India CEO Campbell Wilson
>>2043965Leaning towards this theory. Fuel contamination or maintenance of fuel system components carried out improperly.
AA plane from March that caught fire turned out to be improperly installed parts.
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>>2043962>>2043963i don't see a RAM prop in the potato videos.
Don't 787 gear doors automatically open after leaving the runway, even if the pilots never touch the gear lever?
I don't see them open at any point.
>>2043963Where is the proof the RAT was deployed? Sounds like jeet cope to me
>>2043971It's the little dangly thing most likely being seen being the rear landing gear here:
>>2043912Although it's kind of difficult to resolve.
>>2043971You can just about see it in one of the clearer videos. Its tiny, but its visible to the right next to the right mlg.
https://x.com/DailyMail/status/1933215445793849645
rumors about the RAT being out, flaps being down, and now video from inside showing the passenger screens were malfunctioning - engine/electrical failure?
>>2043973Bullshit, you street shitting subhuman
For people asking about the Ram Air Turbine
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Notice the very loud prop sound and almost no sound from the jet engines
>>2043973I know what a RAT is and there is no evidence it was deployed in any image or video I've seen.
>>2043867>This is a joke right? You really think people on that flight would have been saved by a fucking parachute?Yes. Absolutely 100%. If I was on that plane and had a chute while it was going down I would pull the exit door and jump so it could auto deploy.
>>2043975can't see video, need real link
>>2043981If you can't use x then change the URL to nitter
>>2043979in that image he posted there is a little blurry mass around where the RAT should be.
>>2043685are there any pictures of the hostel after the incident?
>>2043983>It's that blurry, indistinguishable messIn other words, it's cope.
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>>2043985It is literally there.
>>2043986That's literally not proof of anything.
>>2043987Brother, the only possible thing that can come out of the fuselage in that location is the RAT.
>>2043988You're not my brother jeet faggot
>>2043991Your mental illness is not my problem. The RAT was deployed.
>>2043992hard to believe, looks somewhat clean
>>2043993Bullshit it was. It looks nothing like that in the video, gypsy.
>>2043995hey retard check the video with audio
>>2043996I fucking have. Imagine claiming that you can pick up the sound of RAT deployment when a 787 heavy is shuddering under the strain of losing ground based lift since the flaps were retracted. Indian morons.
>>2043839The only crime is that he only had nails stuck into his tires. Come on Boeing you can at least stretch to brake wires being cut.
If they lost main power, why didn't they transfer auxiliary power to the engines!?
>>2043997What was the prop sound then and why are engines set to takeoff power quieter than the engines in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzejbxNj1hY
>>2044001clogged dilithium intermix
>>2044001Internal dampers were failing and they were venting drive plasma
>>2043997lmao you disappeared after this
>>2044002because you know you're wrong and made a big retard of yourself
>>2044003>>2044004Ok yeah jajaja! We got some Fucking comedians here. When are you next at the Laugh Factory or Improv MotherFuckers? I ordered the fish and I'm tipping my server.
You Cocksuckers know what I meant, they have Fucking batteries and shit.
Did they shutdown the planes engines maybe using remote AI hacking?
>>2044012>co-pilot pulls both fuel cuttofs>engines spool down>RAT deploys>TERRAIN PULL UP>boom
If we assume it was flap set up instead of gear (and engines are ok), is that even enough to stall the airplane with all that thrust? Even a 172 stalls at 20+deg nose up attitude with power at max (with rate of climb going 1000+fpm during the entry into the stall). If the engines were ok, it should've entered a very steep climb before stalling and coming down.
>>2043616 (OP)SAARAIN SAARAIN POOP UP
DON'T STINK
>>2043844White people don't breed in captivity so there aren't enough of them anymore to staff everything.
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Kek the state of the UK
>>2043864How did it have enough lift to takeoff but not enough to maintain altitude?
>>2043838Why the fuck is their first reaction to just start swarming him?
>>2043838How did he Fucking survive!?
>>2044042Weird shit like that tends to happen in big scale air accidents, you either die instantly or is the single lucky (maybe unlucky) survivor who didnt get a scratch, no inbetween.
does the RAT make a distinctive sound as he says?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDJjgN7Xbo
>>2043975>>2043981>>2043982>Community Note: The video is not from Air India flight AI171 that crashed. It is claimed it is from the crashed planeโs preceding flight, from Dehli to Ahmedabad:Kill yourself
>>2044017so even with all these flap electronic checks people were talking about, someone can just pull a lever if they're suicidal on takeoff and crash the plane?
>>2043687It's India. Cleanliness and hygiene are not their forte.
>>2044060Nothing in the post contradicts that, faggot. If everything on the plane was broken only 3 hours before takeoff on the previous flight, you really think that's irrelevant?
>>2043781As you can see it's not good for very crucial industries like airplanes
>>2043798Ac is not the same as air filtration
>>2043897They do the same for train close calls, it's in their genes
>>2044042I think he jumped out of the plane from the emergency exit before it crashed.
>>2043685Is this photo from before or after the crash?
>>2043838Everyone else on the plane died, but this guy somehow is in good enough shape to walk by himself. Crazy.
>>2043869>Bollywood remake of UnbreakableThe original was Bollywood as well
>Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan
>>2043616 (OP)did the internet solve this case already?
did the survivor suicide himself with 3 shots on his back?
>>2043651They should land right on top so it wouldn't take any time
>>2044044So a youtuber was on the plane that crashed 2 years ago and noted that the AC didn't work and the plane had to have its engines on instead of using the APU during pre-flight. There was speculation in the comments that the APU (which is an MEL item) was probably broken and the airline was just didn't care.
How much do you want to bet they just deferred maintenance for over two years, had an emergency, deployed RAT, and crashed anyway because the APU has been dead for years and never got repaired?
>>2044091That would seem kind of odd from a company standpoint - having no AC on long-haul flights (especially from India) and having to rely on GPUs/engines seems like it would be such a massive pain in the benchod that the cost of repairing/replacing an APU would seem a small cost to pay
>>2044067I hate /pol/ retards swarming here everytime there's a major incident.
>>2043812>Wish-WashYou couldn't make it up
>>2044093i may be a /pol/tard but im at least im not rude
>>2043799I am a /n/ative with a 90s MTB and I hate Jeets and Chinks.
>>2043815God the floating kike is a retard that gave us feet instead of wings and/or wheels because he cheaped out on materials and is a shit engineer, just like real world kikes.
>โI raised my hand and said, โNo one who works in this factory wants to fly these planes, I mean, thatโs just the truth,โโ Kitchens said. A woman she didnโt know, who was wearing a bomber jacket emblazoned with the FAA logo, shot her a scowl. But it was hardly the first time sheโd expressed anxiety over the planesโ safety with upper management. Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to โpencil-whipโ: โCindy, none of these planes are staying in America, theyโre all going overseas,โ he retorted, much to her horror.
https://prospect.org/economy/2025-06-12-dreamliner-gave-boeing-manager-nightmares-just-crashed-air-india/
The evil of JooSA knows no limits.
>>2044143>Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, theyโre all going overseasyeah thats how planes work dumbass
>>2044143Jesus Fucking Christ
I get "too big to fail" but Boeing is a fucking laughingstock at this point. Just bury the corpse.
It's gonna turn out that the jeet confused the landing gear with the flaps. Screenshot this
>>2043708look at this video
>>2043654you can see the position of the flaps.
>>2043616 (OP)>jeets are so desperate to be accepted by Westerners that they've started killing themselves while travelling to Western nations so that they can help prevent immigrationBased?
>>2044062Yes, you can override systems to crash plan, an American pilot even tried to turn off engines and kill everyone. He got probation and millions in donations for a โmental healthโ charity he started.
>>2043970Electric over hydraulic control, if there was electrical problem not sure RAT would automatically power gear doors as priority
pprune spergs at page 38 now and still nobody has a fucking scooby.
>>2043957Dreamliners automatically shut down failed engine, it has to be double flameout, how? idk
They just couldn't catch a break. Pancaking the fuselage right into this shit.
I will never go on an airplane with less than 4 engines
>>2044206No time to dump fuel
>>2044211less engines less chance of an engine failure
Ok, so we now know from extensive analysis, RAT was deployed, flaps were NOT retracted. It's pretty obvious at this point it was dual engine loss.
What can cause a dual engine loss outside of birdstrike?
>>2044254Foreign body in the fuel system, clogs and stalls fuel pump, electrical system shuts down from excessive power draw from damaged fuel pump, already fuel starved engines shut down along with everything else.
>>204425450 pounds of human shit on the tarmac ingested into both engines before rotation
>>2044255It's called "undocumented POC in the fuel system" now.
>>2043955it would
I refuse to believe a double engine flameout
incorrect flaps setting is the only explanation
>>2044259>An ANA All Nippon Airways Boeing 787-8, registration JA825A performing flight NH-985 from Tokyo Haneda to Osaka Itami (Japan) with 109 passengers and 9 crew, landed on Itami's runway 32L, touched down, the crew deployed the thrust reversers when both engines (Trent 1000) rolled back and shut down. The aircraft rolled out without further incident, came to a stop about 2450 meters/8030 feet down the runway and was disabled. The aircraft was towed off the runway about 40 minutes after landing.>The airline is investigating the cause of both engines shutting down unexpectedly. First examinations by maintenance dispatched from Tokyo do not suggest any anomalies with the engines.https://avherald.com/h?article=4c2fe53a&opt=0
transition between flight/ground modes leading to unexpected dual engine shutdown...
>>2044254>flaps were NOT retractedYou can barely tell if flaps are at 0 or 5 in a high quality picture let alone the potato footage we have
God you anti-boeing cucks are retarded. Both notorious max crashes were caused due to severe incompetence in not following the runaway stab trim memory items. This will be even more clear cut
>>2044143>>2044281meant to reply to this idiotic post
>>2043699>jeets aren't brosJeets are polite, hilarious and pleasant-natured with rich culture, hot women, good food and fun languages
condolences to jeetbros on this tragedy
all the best for lovely day sirs
good morning
t. white burger
>good morning saars. 3 months for report. No bloody questions.
Typical Indian fuck-up confirmed.
>>2043616 (OP)>Air India>Ahmed-AbadIs that in Pakistan or no? It doesn't sound like an Indian place.
>>2044454>Anil>Harshit>PoojaNo fucking way those are real names.
>>2044521Captain Sum Ting Wong
RAT CONFIRMED
oh no no no no Boeing bros how do we come back from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYO-mj1ugg&t=6s
>>2044552if it is Boing, I ain't goin'!
>>2044552>>2044660ok retards, explain what technical malfunction could flameout both engines? Oh wait, you guys have no fucking clue about aviation whatsoever
>>2044662>Boeing bot is mad
A little off-topic, but just a week before this crash there were a lot of new video games announced at shows like the Summer Game Fest and the State of Play. Considering this crash caused the deaths of 280 people, at least one of those people could've watched these shows and was probably excited for some of the games there. I just realized that they will now never be able to play these games and will never know what they're like. As a /v/fag, it's a really strange feeling.
>>204466380iq response, classic. It's gonna be fuel contamination caused by shit indian standards and you clowns will memoryhole it. Or a 10 year old part that had a 5 year maintenance schedule that was equally neglected by indian ground crew on both engines, and you lot will say that it should've been built to last
>>2044298Fuck off jeets are literal vermin. Go on ck and watch how they eat and shit
>>2044677Fuel contamination is unlikely to strike both engines at the same exact time. Based on what the whistleblowers were saying, it's possible metal shavings were left next to the wiring insulation and wore it down over time as the aircraft flexes, causing total electrical failure. But we have to wait for the report to find out.
"The next incident occurred in 2019 when,as The New YorkTimesreportedin an exposรฉ at the time, John Barnett, a former quality manager who retired in 2017, revealed that he had filed a whistleblower complaint, alleging sloppy work around the wires that connect the planesโ flight control systems, with metal shavings being left behind when bolts were fastened. The risk existed that the shavings would penetrate the wiresโ insulation, leading to consequences that Barnett called โcatastrophic.โ
Barnett also alleged that damaged or substandard parts were being installed in 787s, including a dented hydraulic tube that a senior manager retrieved from a bin of what was supposed to contain scrap. The FAA inspected several 787s that were said to be free of the shavings Barnett reported and found that they were indeed there, reported theTimes. The FAA then ordered that Boeing correct the problems before the planes were delivered to customers."
>>2044760jfc, that's scary
>>2044760So a maintenance fuck up?
>>2044757>Fuel contamination is unlikely to strike both engines at the same exact timeBritish Airways Flight 38 is a clear one (and in fact extremely similar results despite the vastly different conditions), but other fueling issue commonly occur such as titan airways in 2020 and their retarded maintenance guy which demonstrate varying degrees of failure. However, it doesn't even look like they failed at the same time - rotation looks nowhere near normal and they used up a shitton of the runway - indicating failures or degradation in the high-speed regime or after v1.
>Barnett Picrel is what he was referring to - shavings under the floor panels. Obviously it's non-conforming but there are issues with this as a whole:
1. Issue was isolated to the Charleston plant, while VT-ANB was built in the Everett factory.
2. Same argument as your dual engine fuel statement, what are the odds that two metal shavings penetrated 2+ control wires at the same time? And we're not talking optical fibres, this is insulated, shielded wiring.
3. Literally has never happened before, even on one engine or control line. To have the first case lead to a complete loss of four IDGs is laughable.
4. Barnett himself was a QC manager who understood what looked good and what didn't, understood the specs and plans, but had no actual clue what would happen if they weren't followed. You could for instance completely fuck up both the PFDs and nothing will happen - there are enough standby instruments for safe operation - but wire the flap lever wrong and the plane will go into the grass on its first takeoff.
I'm not saying it's fuel 100%, but it sure as hell isn't metal shavings.
>reaper redeemed rasheesh
Thank you Boeing!
BA38 was due to the fuel icing up 'in the main tank fuel feed'. Procedures were changed to stop this from happening, and a complete redesign of components was ordered.
'The FAA issued an amendment to an older Airworthiness Directive (AD) in March 2009:
Boeing Model 777-200 and -300 Series Airplanes Equipped With Rolls-Royce Model RB211-TRENT 800 Series Engines
[...]
SUMMARY: The FAA is superseding an existing airworthiness directive (AD) that applies to certain Boeing Model 777-200 and -300 series airplanes. The existing AD currently requires revising the airplane flight manual (AFM) to include in-flight procedures for pilots to follow in certain cold weather conditions and requires fuel circulation procedures on the ground when certain conditions exist. This new AD retains the fuel circulation procedures. This new AD also revises the AFM procedures required by the existing AD. This AD results from a report of a single-engine rollback as a result of ice blocking the fuel oil heat exchanger. We are issuing this AD to prevent ice from accumulating in the main tank fuel feed system, which, when released, could result in a restriction in the engine fuel system. Such a restriction could result in failure to achieve a commanded thrust, and consequent forced landing of the airplane.'
https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/71979/what-changes-were-made-to-the-777-as-a-result-of-british-airways-38
>>2044914Right, the point was that you can absolutely have fuel contamination (in this case in the form of water) which would impact the feeds to both engines.
And very convenient to completely ignore the rest of my post in favour of the usual schizo theories
any news on this? indian news say the black boxes are "damaged": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKzIjL0SJjw
is this some sort of cover-up?
>>2045426black boxes are almost always 'damaged'
means nothing