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Previous >>2040735

absolutely no aviation jobs are hiring and probably will not be for like a year or more. i mean the industry in general, not just pilot positions

>>2051990
Nah the hiring has definitely picked back up after two years of near complete stagnation. The difference now is that every month we break the record (set only last month) for people getting xyz rating. It’s almost the surplus that the military was creating in the Cold War. A lot of ngmi’s.

>>2051995
for pilots it's probably gonna be fucked for a little while. the shortage psyop got so many people to open their wallets (and/or their anuses for money lenders) and now there's gonna be a seemingly perpetual log jam for a while
but even ops jobs are kinda frozen at the moment, and i haven't seen ramp ops jobs available in my city either

Post your favorite overnight

>>2051995
>>2052005
Is it really that bad? Im nearing PPL checkride and planned on going to atp certificate. should I just trade crypto and tend bar

>>2052015
well you'll be fine for sure if you don't take out a shit ton of debt

>>2052008
Des Moines, Iowa

>>2052008
Durango CO

>>2052015
It’s a competition. Are you better than most of your peers? OK you’ll probably be fine. There’s a lot of retards, shitskins and clueless women in the pipeline now. By the time a pre-PPL gets to the level of applying to 121’s DEI will probably be in the dustbin of history.

So just be better. If you can’t do that then I’d say quit.

>>2052054
shitskins and clueless women still beat out the average white man for a job at jewnited. You can't get rid of DEI without setting every HR department on fire and filling the pilot hiring team with exclusively white men. DEI is just the latest acronym for white women's love for destroying white men at every turn.

>>2052033
I had a flight attendant pronounce it as “Dess Monies” over the PA kek

>>2052073
let me guess. F9 or NK

>dispatchers have jumpseat privileges for airlines in agreements with each other
>this include cargo airlines
>jumpseat joyride in a 747 because why the fuck not

>>2052082
Nah this was at the regionals. But when I was at Spirit, we parked next to Allegiant and a flight attendant asked me who “Alley-Giant” was lol

Flew for the first time with auto pilot today. Was unnerving at first having the plane control itself however I got over that quickly. The G1000 is nice but it's a lot of info.

>>2052527
GFC700 or something else?

>>2052529
GFC500

Is it just me or do people greatly exaggerate and dramatize the difficulty of ATC work? Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazy. Even YYZ shit

>>2052688
Use a simulator and find out.

>>2052688
Being a surgeon isn't all that difficult either. Most are specialized and do the same few cuts hundreds of times a year.
What makes both jobs difficult that you have to do them every day for 30+ years and every small mistake you make could kill people.

>>2052688
ATC certification is very difficult and the infamous “checkride” is no joke.

I know more than one pilot who went through OKC, graduated and couldn’t handle the pressure of being a controller so they got their ratings instead. For the majority of flying jobs there’s no question that ATC is way more difficult, way more intensive and way more demanding mentally than being a pilot.

Some exceptions are out there. A small segment of military pilots, agriculture pilots, many (but not all) helicopter guys, single-pilot floatplane ops…that stuff can be just as demanding as ATC with obviously high accident rates.

>>2052688
>Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazy
Opinion instantly discarded

one of my friends is a regional first officer and he told me that he fucked the female captain on each night if his 4 day trip. But they aren’t dating, they just fucked and that was it. It scares me to think that when I become an FO and fly with female captains, that they just take the dick like that.

>>2052878
Are you afraid you won't be able to take as much as them?

>>2052879
I know they won’t have sex with me. But it’s crazy to think that I’m going to have an attractive professional sitting in the left seat next to me, but behind hotel doors she’s a freak

>>2052880
Here's a not so big secret. Most younger pilots are similar. For example, I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel room. I can choose to goon, or explore the same shithole city with expensive garbage food, or hit the gym. So I stroke it until I gotta choke it. That said, women should not be flying aircraft, sorry to hear about the whores. Just another reason to never apply to jewnited.

I’ve fucked more married women pilots than all other married job types combined. They cheat compulsively, it clearly gets them off and is a huge reason they do the job. Not that all pilots don’t cheat, but the women are way more brazen and aggressive about it.

FWIW I’m married too and I cant resist it. It’s hot as hell. But man I do have a little bit of guilt sometimes whereas these women clearly do not.

>>2052917
why do people act like united is the gay liberal airline? wouldn't that be alaska or sun country?

>>2052937
they're probably from chicago, ORD is dominated by UA and flies to destinations favored by more well-heeled travelers like copenhagen, tokyo, and milano, whereas MDW is dominated by WN that thrives on depressing spots where the working class go for fun, like kansas city, tampa, and las vegas. so naturally you would associate UA with gay liberals who look down their nose at real americans, and WN would be based and redpilled and they really care about a regular guy like me

>>2052943
AA has an ORD hub and base. Their FAs are not almost entirely composed of lesbians and trannys like UAL

>>2052917
>I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel room
wtf, do you really? I don’t watch porn on overnights

>>2052937
UA is arguably the most DEI focused large firm in the United States.

>>2052937
Huge DEI pushers. Known to hire any """minority""" status with minimum experience over a qualified white man. Love to hire and fellate women and trannies. Pilot interview has no technical questions, only 'Tell me a time when' emotional intelligence questions. Hard required the vax. Kirby is an open faggot that sucks big black dildos at public parades. Don't know shit about Alaska or Sunny, feel free to educate me on why I should deny their crews a jumpseat due to fear of AIDS.

>>2052951
the only thing about sunny is the possibility of creeps from the twin cities, but granted i'd imagine that a lot of the people there live in nicer places like eagan or something. i remember alaska basically being a united-lite though
i've also noticed one or two troon dispatchers, but i'm not sure which airline they work for, probably a regional since there's no movement in aviation right now

>>2052948
>watch
no my friend, I read doujins

>>2052955
>nicer places like eagan
lol

>>2052960
what's wrong with eagan? crime rate isn't bad, rent not horrible, etc.

Mesa FOs look like THAT???!

>>2052962
>tattoo
checks out

>>2052961
I mean there are worse places if you set the bar really low but "nice" and "eagan" just sounds silly to me. it's where divorced middle aged men move if they never want to have sex again

>>2052964
does that mean she has sex?

>>2052965
sure but the options for areas within driving distance of work at the airport are a bit slim

>>2052972
They really aren't, but your fear of minorities is stronger than your desire for women. But lots of dadbod single men! You might have more in common with the gays and trannies than you thought!

>>2052975
brown hands typed this post

>>2052966
Correct
She probably had sex with dogs too

>>2052962
damn, i missed it

>>2052999
Meh, you didn’t missed a lot :
Sports bra matching running shoes, leggings, tattoos and she was using AirPods Max as well
No mentionable tits or ass, sadly (but at least she’s fit)
Oh and do I have to precise that she is white?

600TT CFI and CFII. I am a cadet and have CJOs at three different regionals. HR told me they don't care how I get the hours. I quit teaching and am time building.

>>2053016
Are you asking or telling?

Is it viable to start a career as a pilot with zero previous experience at 35? For the past 2 months I've been looking into it, and there's some conflicting info for the time it would take me to get qualified.
I already have some money saved to start off, and I plan on staying at my current job at least until I get my private license (currently working as IT, yeah I know its easy money and all but I fucking loathe it).
I'm brazilian so the process might be very different from US/Europe, but I'm just looking for some general direction.

>>2053020
Telling but also asking if I made the right decision.

>>2053024
If you were American, I'd say it is viable. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the airlines outside the US beyond the fact that they don't pay well compared to the US.

>>2053025
How are you time building? Are you paying for hours, or getting paid to fly? What type aircraft, what are you accomplishing like XC, night, simulated instrument time, etc.

FYI of the 10% or so of people who fail their LOE its pretty much all timebuilders (as in paid to fly VFR safety pilot to ATP mins) who fail. Being unable to do the job of CFI, or even worse being unable to pass a CFI checkride, is not a good sign.

Washing out of 121 training is very bad. Vastly worse than primary training checkride failures. Realistically a 2000 hour pilot with a 121 failure is behind people with 3+ checkrides failures at ATP mins, or to put it in even more bleak terms behind a 0TT pilot about to take his first discovery flight.

So if you’re gonna do timebuild just stay sharp and ready to learn

>>2053041
There is a big difference between having a bad go during LOE the first time, but coming back and getting it on the 2nd try compared to actually “washing out”

>>2053025
I have no idea why you didn’t just keep the CFI job, put it on the back burner taking only the bare minimum work to stay employed, and then timebuild anyways. That way you get the benefits of timebuilding without the stigma of being a timebuilder.

BTW that stigma is real and has plenty of basis.

if i get hired at Delta am I assigned a mentor pilot gf to work out with me at the hotel gym on overnights?

>>2053130
Total bullshit. I don't care what other pilots think. I am already in a cadet program with CJO in hand. I was told class date as soon as I hit minimums.

>>2053452
>i don't care what other pilots think
>>asking if I made the right decision
lmao

Tailwheel or seaplane? Do airlines care about either or should I just get more multi-time in anyway?

I'm about to start ATC training in a couple of months bros. What am I in for?

how come were all right wing radicals, boys?
unironically 90% of the pilots i fly with are what the mainstream in europe would consider RIGHT WING RADICALS
i talked about it to some colleagues and it seems to me that the profession (handling big machines and doing a real job, not a made up one) just attracts a certain type of man.

i also think that people in compareable positions, like men in charge of ships or heavy machinery, are mostly right wing radicals.

so to all the guys in aviation: whats your experience with this topic?

>>2053654
Airlines want multi engine time.

>>2053804
It's challenging but that's the fun part, aviation wasn't part of my life before and now I don't know what I'd do without it.
I'm curious how it works outside of latam.12 months in and I don't feel quite as ready, unless I gain confidence in OJT, but I want to know what I can improve and learn on my own right now.

>>2053836
12 months? I'm taking less than that including OJT. But I suppose it'll take another few months before I get a facility rating so it evens out.

>>2053831
revoke all ATPs of shitlibs that are not "of good moral character" and cite 61.153(c) in the emergency revocation

>>2053831
it's an aviation thing in general. pilots, atc, dispatch, etc.
the only leftoids i think would be fas because they're usually women

>>2053831
the sky is the domain of the huwite man

>>2051990
The industry is utter shit rn and it's going to be for a long time. People take the CFI route for this reason
Honestly if it doesnt get any better im just gonna smuggle shit at this point.

>>2052015
Dont stop. Just keep going. You wouldn't want to waste your money

>>2052709
Anon is right here. Im on commercial and the checkride isnt a joke, but for the love of God go for ATP instead of ATC.

>>2053831
Aviation is a very White job. Even criminals who fly contraband are almost always politically radical.

>>2053654
If you're at 25 hours multi then unless you got a job flying multi's there is no way you would be able to pay for enough multi time that would matter in any way to an airline. 25 hours vs 100 hours is the same for hiring. If you haven't paid for your own ATP-CTP then that would be the best bet to make yourself hireable. As far as tailwheel vs seaplane goes, neither will make you pop out on paper, but the tailwheel is pretty fun.

Well, after getting out of the airforce and bouncing from a couple jobs I’m finishing up my certs for A&P. I got the material, the test prep, and even a job that has a corporate hanger so once I do have the credentials I can work there with some networking
Problem is that it’s been some years so I’m refreshing on it but also that I only got approved to take the airframe written exam from the FAA. So have any of you gotten one followed by the other before? Was it a challenge?

>>2053897
Sunk cost fallacy…

>>2053937
NTA but I have ATP-CTP done but no one is hiring OTS. They are hiring the following:
>A cadet who went from 250hours to 1500 hours in less than 6 months time building in their own airplane.
>A cadet with 6 check ride failures.
>A cadet time building in their own personal airplane.
>A cadet who ran an airplane off the runway causing substantial damage that wasn't reported.

>>2053937
Not true, I start class at a 121 next month OTS. I understand the frustration with cadets, but of the other people I know that are on with the same company, none of them are cadets. 1500 hours, 1200 dual given, 25 multi. ATP-CTP done. The jobs are out there if you go to career fairs and send emails.

>>2054101
>>2054095

FA on this trip very noticeably has an interest in me. But I’m not going to do anything about it

Why isn’t she doing her security checks? We are going to miss MOGT..

https://youtube.com/shorts/VYKLf8x4ZlQ?si=R4wMq-n1bNjH_3p1

>>2054135
Good man

>>2054135
Faggot

>>2054225
What do you want him to do? Drag her into the tiny bathroom that probably stinks like shit?

>>2051983 (OP)
thoughts?

tried making it in flyout but id faster make it out of wood than do anything with tech.. i am technologically impaired.

>>2054816
I think you re-invented the ground-effect ship?

>>2054135
>FA on this trip very noticeably has an interest in me. But I’m not going to do anything about it
Its a shit test, that means there is a rumor circulating around your airline that you're gay. Why else would women suddenly be interested in you? Flight attendants are bored and petty so they like to play stupid mind games.

>>2054818
little different.. much smaller and way longer wings, and instead of using a giant rear elevator, it uses canard to induce stall faster.. so instead of giving it a second drag surface, you give it giant wings for legally flying higher over the ocean (the laws are usually based on wingspan)

i made a little styrofoam model and threw it close to ground, it works without big rear elevator, when i removed the canards it instantly did a backflip..

(the idea is basically a flying kayak that can soar a bit higher than normally legally allowed, not a giant plane, or a true plane in that sense.)

>>2054845
now I'm curious where (for the USA) in the FARs that getting airborne by ground effect only makes something not an aircraft.

Apparently for a while (or maybe still?) the British CAA classed them as seaplanes while the EASA agreed with the FAA that they're not aircraft.

How late is too late to become a military pilot? I just turned 31 and the rule says you must enter UPT by your 33rd birthday. But I know there's a very long waiting list for UPT slots. Should I apply anyway? I have all my ratings and a few hundred hours.

>>2052688
>>2052694
current atc trainee at ZNY here
it's mostly the training that's stressful, knowing the airspace at first seems pretty straightforward but there's enough weird situations that come up that completely bend the rules of what you're supposed to do. Severe weather is the biggest thing and SWAP season really stresses everyone out. Normal ops days are really chill though, biggest problem we have is just low staffing and fucked up schedules. Certain areas are just dogshit at training and haven't certified any new CPCs in at least 3 years.

>>2054927
ain't no time like the present, but you'll have to move fast. Bring alot of cash to bogidope and start your AFOQT/TBAS asap

>>2051983 (OP)
For those that do flights over the Atlantic and over Europe or North Africa at night or early in the morning (utc speaking)
Do you have a list of frequencies to listen to on hf while bored?
Maybe of some radio broadcast or some pirate radio o military frequencies

Give me the QRD for getting IFR
Which ground school
What books
Thinking of just youtube and sheppard

>>2055625
I can't speak to all that, but I advise my mentees that the only time Part 141 is almost always better than Part 61 is for an instrument rating. 40 hours instrument + 50 hours XC PIC (of which you'd have a minimum 5 from PPL). vs 141 requiring 35 hours flight training and 35 hours 141 ground school. Consider your options, and otherwise if doing Part 61, how to grind XC PIC and simulated instrument with another guy splitting time. 25 of the 40 instrument hours can be with a schmuck PPL, only 15 of the 40 hours must be with a CFII.

>work ramp for a regional airline in northern Canada
>fleet was mainly Fairchild/swearingen Metro IIIs until recently
>Metro has a pretty infamous reputation
>has many unflattering nicknames
>among them is the babykiller
>recently jumpseated a few times on a Dash-8-100
>two seperate former metro captains told me the story behind that name

>2012
>metro skids of end of runway
>at the very back of the plane is a mother holding an infant in her arms
>on impact the baby flies out of her arms
>rockets through the air all the way down the aisle
>baby impacts the cockpit with extreme velocity
>explodes
>both captains said the body had to be fished out from underneath the rudder pedals

>>2055699
Sounds like bullshit unless you can dig up the accident report

>>2055786
Not him, but his story is neither fake nor gay. You could have confirmed it easily with the info if you weren't a lazy sack of shit.

>The 6-month old lap-held infant weighed 23.2 pounds and measured 75 cm. Although the mother had not been instructed on how to correctly hold her infant during takeoff and landing prior to the occurrence flight, she had been shown how to hold an infant on previous flights. As instructed previously, for approach and landing, she was holding her infant against her chest, with the infant facing aft. During the impact and crash sequence, the infant was expelled from her arms and was later found next to the captain's rudder pedals. The cause of death listed by the coroner was closed head injury with multiple injuries.

>>2055788
Thanks for dodging the question cocksucker, what I’m sure you meant to say was “look up PAG993” Instead I dropped your reply into google to get an answer.

>>>/r/eddit

@2055880
>Be a lazy sack of shit
>Call other people liars
>Get proven wrong
>Act like you did all the heavy lifting anyways
lol. lmao even.

>>2055913
you are have no metro time, post type ratings or seethe kid

@2055937
Post pay stub, ESL turd.

>>2055939
you just live on here all day? Imagine being a no life cfi on /n/ all day instant replying, you're a real shut in huh? you wanna see my pay, go onto APC and check the legacy rates. poast your type ratings or otherwise keep @ing me like a faggot

@2056105
Post a picture of your hand, ESL.

When the fuck are we getting a good new single engine airplane with a modern piston engine instead of some ancient shit?

>>2056297
never. five billion years from now when the sun runs out of fuel and engulfs the earth flight schools will still be operating the same fleet of clapped-out 1970s pipers and cessnas

>>2056304
Well maybe at least they will eventually replace turbofan engines with some electric stuff and it will become so cheap that scaled down versions of it could be put into four seater single engine aircraft or something? That's just a cope, isn't it

Prople without jet time are scraping ACARS data now. Bizarre.

https://acarsdrama.com/

another female FO gets a United CJO.... yet here I am, still doing the regional captain grind.

>>2056629
I guess they can't have 4chanons as captains, it's a responsible position

>>2056629
Based grinder. Your time will come my friend, but I'd recommend you avoid UA unless you want to be junior to cackling retards your whole career. Come to (my legacy) instead and be junior to me, a greasy fat fuck. I buy drinks for the FO on the layover too if that sweetens the pot.

I do fueling and stuff and this united shop has me come over and fill to 26.0 they basically want to max the wings and whatever with the middle. Around 8500 the right wing starts venting fuel. The MX guy was like hey it's leaking looks like something is loose. So I just wrapped up the fuel truck and left lol usually it's a big deal, overfilling a plane, but it was kind of funny not getting in trouble Cause it was a MX issue

>>2056756
>Come to (my legacy) instead
AA is only taking military pilots and flows

No one has mentioned this, but OP pic is CI on a mail run for Chunghwa Post. Based Republic of China (Taiwan)

>>2056821
I would never admit to working at the best of the big 3 (for white men), but regardless thats bullshit, plenty on non flow civilians are getting hired. The published numbers for 2025 so far, Jan 1 through Sept 3rd have, of the 64% of non flows hired, half are civilians. So update your app and get your bachelors.

>>2056629
never be good at something you don't want to do

>>2057250
rip ups ramp ratter

>>2057889
Lol so there are a few more flights and I guess the package volume is up. I kind of wonder what UPS will do about maintenance. It looks like maintenance spends a lot of time in their trucks. It the untrained eye it looks like a lot of pencil whipping

>>2057918
>>2057250
>>2056813
holy fuck this some prophetic posting my boy

>>2057919
So that leak was on a united 737 and it was a MX test

>>2057920
i'm retard

>>2055625
> what books?
PHAK, Instrument Flying Hanbook, Instrument Procedures Handbook, FAR/AIM, Aviation Weather Handbook
>What ground school
Flight Insight or whatever is cheapest. Just read the books and you'll be fine. Get gouge on what your examiner wants.

dayum

>>2057969
flown both, boeing is better than french junk. The bus is designed around keeping third worlders from crashing, it climbs like shit and cruises low. If only Douglas still made jets like the safely designed MD11.

>>2057969
Please kill yourself for posting that.

?
https://fxtwitter.com/RedWave_Press/status/1985908974680510716

>>2058076
WE GAAN
https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1985929623104794932
holy shit
looks like a mix of american 191 and that one time a ups 747 burned down from batteries catching fire

>>2057969
god damn shame that UPS plane didn't hit you