Thread 2052928

The newest development after gravel bikes with suspension forks: Gravel bikes with suspension forks and flat bars. I simply have to have one!

Short travel drop bar bikes make perfect sense tho
Drop bars are more ergo for riding long distances and suspension reduces fatigue

>>2052959
>reduces fatigue
that's what the fat tires are for

>>2052959
I consider it absolutely indisputable that full suspension is superior to no suspension, in performance, in all instances, and it is only the retardation of most bicyclists that is slowing that realization.
None of the arguments against suspension hold water.
I have always felt more other cyclists are retarded. Most people are retarded. But recently I’ve seen several videos from allegedly well respected creators that so badly misunderstand bike geometry, how the bars interact with steering geometry, and several other topics, that my opinion has fallen even further.

>>2053080
Counterpoint: you probably aren't as smart as you think

>>2053080
dunning kruger retard: the post

If you do a google image search for "aalewis" on duckduckgo, one of the first results is a full suspension bike. Make of that what you will.

>>2053083
well there you have it. no need for suspension, or even really tires and a saddle.
oh wait a minute, these bikes are optimized for riding as fast as possible on a perfectly maintained surface. not even something so rough as asphalt.
nta btw

>>2053080
The ONLY time suspension improves performance is when riding hell for leather down twisty technical rock and tree root strewn trails by improving traction.

That's it.
In every other scenario suspension slows you down. It adds weight, saps energy and adds multiple new potential points of failure to your bicycle.

>>2053090
Retard

>>2053085
Retard

>>2053083
Retard

None of you are capable of basic thought

>>2053080
retard, its heavier than a rigid, more expensive
and you have to service it more. Having a blown out fork or especially rear suspension is annoying.
>>2053090
also retarded, suspension is nice for anything off asphalt thats not a smooth dirt path. It's not essential but you're still retarded

everybody here is retarded and can't accept that a rigid bike is nice when the trail allows for it, but suspension is also nice at the same time

>>2053092
retard

>>2052928 (OP)
Isn’t this basically just a hardtail mtn bike

>>2053138
yes

>>2053138
Look at you, nicely observed!

>>2053138
I believe that is the joke, sir.
>>2052928 (OP)
Needs proprietary wheel size so I can buy all new everything.

What development the next development was a fucking engine and it happened 120 years ago. We don't use these gay boy kids toy transportation.

>>2052928 (OP)
how about gravel bike
with suspension fork
and flat bars
and really wide tires

>>2053080
Counterpoint: you are a twig and your glutes are not thick enough to serve double duty as both your engine and your suspension, so you try to cheat both the game and yourself by making your bicycle floppy and wearing diaper pants

Why don't we just put road bike gearing on mountain bikes? As far as I'm concerned road bike gearing is primarily what makes road bikes fast. Not their light weight.

>>2053180
needs an electric motor and it’s perfect

>>2053272
>>2053286
retard

>>2052928 (OP)
What's the difference between this and hardtail XC mountain bikes?

>>2053299
nothing.

>>2052928 (OP)
>r gravel bikes with suspension forks
so a mountain bike?

you know theres poorfag coping around when fs bad because it's less efficient >>2053090 and also because its more efficient >>2053186

>>2053180
Now we're getting somewhere

>>2053138
ur a fuking genius bro

now that we've seeing drop bars and aero features at Leadville can gravel and roadies start being just as annoying as mtbers have been for the past 5 years

>>2053419
If you're not riding through rough terrain no suspension will be more efficient than having it
That is provided the "lower" terrain roughness isn't such that the person physically has a hard time outputting power at the same time as staying balanced
IMO you'll ve able to go faster with suspension, even if it's mechanically less efficient sinpmy because pedaling and keeping direction+balance becomes easier
t.just rides a clapped out hardtail mtb

>>2053419
>the most expensive version of this bike that costs $10k still weighs almost 24 pounds
Thank you for reminding me about why I lost interest in mountain bikes, that's like BSO tier weight for a road bike. I'm not even a weight weenie but come on man. A bike should not weigh more than 20 pounds unless it's loaded up with groceries.

>>2054261
road bikers are dyel as fuck

>>2054279
>my bike is pointlessly overweight and that's a good thing!
Ok? Let me guess being able to do a pull up is also "dyel"?

>>2054292
can you even drive your roadbike off a curb or is it gonna crack, weight fag

>>2054302
Yes? This might be your breakfast question but turns out when you don't weigh over 300 pounds (huh?!?!? but I do weigh over 300 pounds!!!), you can actually jump all the curbs you want and the bike will be fine!

>>2054302
Not that anon but there are steel bikes with disc brakes under 20lbs
Things don't get dicey until you're under the UCi limit

>>2054303
its not impressive to beable to go UP stairs you roadfag

>>2054305
>I'm fat
Yes, you are

>>2054261
I lift so I can princess carry my mtb over a rough terrain

>>2054306
I likely weigh more then you because I am not a microman, hows the world under 6'

>>2054308
So you're what, 6'12"?

>>2054309
>2024
>bmi
shiggy

>>2054332
>tel aviv university
fat AND retarded

look, a bike SUV

>>2054492
>t. skinnyfat dyel

>>2054552
How does that rack work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS9ugdl1FZc

This mtb guy said "this MTB weighs 37 pounds" with a straight face. What the hell is wrong with MTB people, how do you put up with this?

>but I can bench 3 pl8
That's great (probably half reps but I'll let it go). Can you climb a flight of stairs without having a heart attack though?

>>2054662
Those bikes are meant for riding a chairlift their weight is irrelevant

>>2053080
check this shit
i have one of those, its handy as fuck, riding on asphalt? lock the suspension. riding on gravel? just turn on your fork and enjoy your smooth ride.

>>2054746
that's cheating

>>2054571
Hinged at the wheel, so it is separated from suspension travel.
I was considering this buke, but at $3700 for bare frame, 38t max chainring and no FD option it is a hard fuck no from me.

>>2054746
Only onions lock out suspension.

>>2054662
37lbs for a full featured enduro bike is featherweight. Good tires can weigh 1.2kg, or about 3lbs, each.

>>2053092
You just got btfo dumbo calm down

>>2053083
L M A O

>>2054662
I have a 37lb as listed stock (probably heavier because I don't fucking care) trail bike and live on a 3rd floor apartment. I can't even bench 2 plates and I have zero issues carrying the thing up and down or riding XC tracks. If that's too much bike for you to handle, maybe you should put down your purse first.

>>2054746
In most cases if your fork has a lock out it's shit

>>2056820
so every single high end modern enduro fork is shit? most full sus enduro bikes now have remote lockouts etc

>>2056795
What's with the lol/lmao poster with the worst takes on this board lately

>>2056828
I mean you're wrong and they don't the only high end forks with lock out are for XC

>>2056831
lol

>>2056832
L M A O

>>2056832
i'm sure you are using that extra 20mm's on those HUGE jumps your hitting since you only ride park.

>>2056832
My fox Rhythm 34 has a lock out

>>2056838
I was half hoping that this was AI