Thread 1432461

https://www.ft.com/content/f98caaf8-545b-41cb-abdf-d9ea674799fc

Donald Trump’s pledge that he would deliver a booming economy to Americans is being undermined by a stalling labour market, in a warning sign for his party’s prospects at next year’s congressional elections.

Until recently, the US president could argue that his disruptive policy moves — from sweeping import tariffs to an aggressive immigration crackdown — had defied critics with resilient job creation and relatively stable inflation.

But Friday’s figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed jobs growth has been grinding to a halt — US employers created just 22,000 positions in August after a weak summer — puncturing confidence that Trump’s economy will remain unscathed.

Omair Sharif, an analyst at Inflation Insights, said: “Trade policy uncertainty — and policy uncertainty in general — is causing a pullback in hiring, and it is not clear that it will be resolved anytime soon.”

Friday’s data has provided Democrats with fresh ammunition for their claims that Trump’s economic policies were doing more harm than good.

Maggie Hassan, the New Hampshire senator and top Democrat on the joint economic committee, told the Financial Times: “Costs keep going up. Manufacturing here in the US is contracting. Businesses don’t know whether to invest or hire because there’s so much uncertainty in the economy.”

“This is a direct result of the president’s reckless tariffs and the uncertainty that he has created.”

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Ron Wyden, the Oregon Democratic senator, was especially brutal, saying Trump should fire Scott Bessent, the US Treasury secretary, and Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary, “before they drag the economy into a recession”.

“None of these cranks have any idea what they’re doing,” he said.

Trump had responded to signs of a slowdown in the jobs market a month ago by firing the commissioner of the BLS and sharply escalating pressure on the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates at its next policy meeting this month.

But he has continued to insist that the economy remains in excellent shape.

Speaking about the economy in the Oval Office on Friday, Trump complained that interest rates were “too high” and said “corrections” were often made to economic data. “So many different elements aren’t included yet,” he said.

Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council, earlier in the day told reporters the jobs data was an “anomaly” and a “little bit of a disappointment” that did not reflect stronger output and investment trends. He said he expected the figures to be revised upwards.

“The economy is sound and inflation is low,” he added. “We are having a capital spending boom.”

Ron Wyden, the Oregon Democratic senator, was especially brutal, saying Trump should fire Scott Bessent, the US Treasury secretary, and Howard Lutnick, the commerce secretary, “before they drag the economy into a recession”.

“None of these cranks have any idea what they’re doing,” he said.

Trump had responded to signs of a slowdown in the jobs market a month ago by firing the commissioner of the BLS and sharply escalating pressure on the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates at its next policy meeting this month.

But he has continued to insist that the economy remains in excellent shape.

Speaking about the economy in the Oval Office on Friday, Trump complained that interest rates were “too high” and said “corrections” were often made to economic data. “So many different elements aren’t included yet,” he said.

Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council, earlier in the day told reporters the jobs data was an “anomaly” and a “little bit of a disappointment” that did not reflect stronger output and investment trends. He said he expected the figures to be revised upwards.

“The economy is sound and inflation is low,” he added. “We are having a capital spending boom.”

Yet the evidence of a languishing jobs market is accumulating. Many of the hardest hit industries are the blue-collar sectors that the president vowed to reinvigorate with the dawn of a new “golden age” in America, but which have been hit disproportionately hard by his tariffs as many companies freeze hiring.

August lay-offs were among the highest in the goods-producing sectors most exposed to the trade upheaval, with manufacturing, construction and energy and mining losing a combined 25,000 jobs. Wholesale trade was also hit hard, shedding 12,000 roles.

Erica Groshen, a former BLS commissioner under Barack Obama, said on the FT’s Swamp Notes podcast that Friday’s numbers were “pretty sobering” and that the economy was now “flashing yellow”.

“What we see is that the US economy is essentially not creating jobs,” she said. “The three-month average change is 29,000, which is basically zero for an economy of the size that we have.”

Friday’s data will come as a political blow to Trump because he has been trying to reverse his weak approval ratings by boasting about his stewardship of the economy, which was one of his strongest selling points during the 2024 campaign.

According to a Realclearpolitics.com polling average, 42.2 per cent of Americans approve of his handling of the economy, while 54.1 per cent disapprove, a wide gap. While Trump will not be on the ballot in next year’s midterm elections, Republicans in Congress risk facing angry voters dispirited by a struggling labour market and persistent inflation, which continues to run above the Fed’s 2 per cent target. This has come down only marginally since the start of his second term.

Lanhee Chen, a senior adviser to Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign and director of domestic policy studies at Stanford University, said: “[Trump] has a few more months to figure out how he wants to impact public impressions of the economy before a frame gets drawn around the midterms.”

“The ability of Republicans to retain control of the House and Senate is going to depend in no small part on his ability to tell a positive economic story.”

Still, analysts are not expecting any rapid policy pivots from the White House in response to the weakening jobs market, but rather a continuation of his efforts to sway the Fed and assail the messengers of discouraging economic statistics.

Ylan Mui, a managing director at Penta Group, a consultancy in Washington, said: “The silver lining for President Trump is that a slowing job market could help him get what he really wants: lower interest rates. In addition, the downward revision for June and temporary ‘technical difficulties’ at BLS also give him new ammunition in his ongoing battle against the agency.”

“Ultimately, Trump can still make the case that the solution to any perceived problem in the job market is for his administration to take more control of the economy, not less,” she added.

Thanks Obama

What the fuck do you mean that taxing components and raw materials is bad for manufacturing and you can't protect industries that don't exist anymore without first recreating them?

>>1432467
Trump thinks the economy is doing well if his yes men tell him it is. Besides all the tech CEOs except Elon just showed up to kiss his ass at the white house >>1432451

Trump legit fucked this up. I'm not even convinced that tariffs were a bad idea. But it's been obvious since he announced his implementation details that he has absolutely no idea what the fuck he is doing and it was obvious this was going to happen as soon as he declared his Final Solution on the American economy by releasing setting the tariffs the way he did

Trump legit fucked this up. I'm not even convinced that tariffs were a bad idea. But it's been obvious since he announced his implementation details that he has absolutely no idea what the fuck he is doing and it was obvious this was going to happen as soon as he declared his Final Solution on the American economy by setting the tariffs the way he did, to levels unreasonably high on literally everyone and then repeatedly TACOing.

>>1432471
russia wins, americans are officially terminally retarded. get out while you can

>>1432472
>Russia wins
Being a pariah state with a turbofucked economy and rapidly aging population isn't winning.

>>1432475
they consider it winning when everyone's life is as shit as theirs, unfortunately. fox news has done a real bang up job of that

>>1432471
Upon consideration, it's really freaking weird that Donald Trump, a Republican, using tariffs made the largest American tax hike since 1993, which will he responsible for +2.9tn income over a decade, and Democrats, who want higher taxes, hated it

Imagine how well off our national budget would be if he didn't lower income tax as well.

>>1432478
>Donald Trump, a Republican, using tariffs made the largest American tax hike since 1993, which will he responsible for +2.9tn income over a decade, and Democrats, who want higher taxes, hated it
Because the majority of the people impacted by the Trump tax are the poor, while Dems want higher taxes on the rich.

>>1432478
it's funny how esl shills such as yourself are shilling for trump. and highly suspicious

>>1432478
>>1432479
The highest rate of tax was 91%: in the 1950s. Republicans voted for Dwight D. Eisenhower. And USA was still the only country that emerged out of WWII with a profit. And came out of that world war as the industrial and R&D powerhouse of the whole planet. With the highest rate of tax at 91%. RCA was the biggest electronics company on the planet: they even made the TV cameras used on Apollo moon missions. Now RCA is just a name put on generic domestic items made in China.
No wonder Eisenhower was the last decent Re[ublican president. And Republican voters then who said 'I Like Ike' twice were normal sane human beings. Today, all MAGAts are inbred retards. No Exceptions.

>>1432478
>>1432479
The highest rate of tax was 91%: in the 1950s. Republicans voted for Dwight D. Eisenhower. And USA was still the only country that emerged out of WWII with a profit. And came out of that world war as the industrial and R&D powerhouse of the whole planet. With the highest rate of tax at 91%. RCA was the biggest electronics company on the planet: they even made the TV cameras used on Apollo moon missions. Now RCA is just a name put on generic domestic items made in China.
No wonder Eisenhower was the last decent Republican president. And Republican voters then who said 'I Like Ike' twice were normal sane human beings. Today, all MAGAts are inbred retards. No Exceptions.

>>1432478
>he actually believes the tariffs are going to last a decade
lol

>>1432477
Seethe…

>>1432483
>Today, all MAGAts are inbred retards. No Exceptions.
Don't leave out the cynical billionaire overlords doing the brainwashing

>>1432487
>Don't leave out the cynical billionaire overlords doing the brainwashing
Especially them >>1432451
What's stopping them from telling Trump to go fuck himself?

>>1432490
Most of the people on the list who aren't crypto grifters. Thiel nihilists, or administration lackeys are terrified of him.
>The 55-year-old CEO of Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), who praised Trump’s administration for supporting the semiconductor industry, noted the “incredible acceleration” the industry has seen since Trump took office and expressed gratitude for the administration’s support in building the “brains behind all of the wonderful AI” being developed.
Trump just bought 10% of the company's direct competitor and the CEO is still kissing his dick out of fear of him punishing them.

>>1432461 (OP)
MAGA then: Shit's going bad and team blue is denying it. There's a guy on team red who agrees that shit is bad and promises to make things great again. I'm going to ally with him!
MAGA now: Team red is failing to deliver and shit keeps getting worse!
I can't fault people for recognizing that everything's going to shit and being too ground down by their job to know what to do about it. Unfortunately voting is not going to fix all the shit that's going wrong; it is within the power of neither team red nor team blue to do anything about it. They are part of a state that was constructed purely to serve the interests of capital, and it's precisely capital that is tearing this world apart. Changes to this state are therefore not the solution.
I really wish the fans of team red and team blue would stop attacking each other and start organizing with eachother. We aren't enemies; our real enemies are stealing from us while we bicker.

>>1432497
One side sees it as a culture war crusade and the other sees it as ideological differences. Guess which one is which.

>>1432497
>We aren't enemies
Yeah that's dems started to say when they lost the culture war after ten years of shitting down our throats.
>MAGA now: Team red is failing to deliver and shit keeps getting worse
Those are dems larping as republicans to fracture Trump's coalition.
It's like with the Epstein shit. Yeah, we've known about this for years. Nothing is going to change. Decades ago it was an antisemitic conspiracy theory that the left would harass you over, now they can't shut the fuck up about how republicans are retarded for not being a part of the new manufactured outrage.
I can't topple an international jewish crime family. I can vote for someone that makes gas cheaper and remove illegals. Gotta take the wins where you can get them.

i tried to tell you all that you were mega retarded for going on 25 years now, but you never want to listen. here's the new one you'll ignore: if the american people don't unify and kill everyone who is forcing a free market to be under their control then the american people are done for. the powerful are consolidating in preperation for an unlivable world. what will we do about it?

>>1432502
>we
You're literally not American and we are all aware of this. Feel free to bitch and moan about it now

>>1432503
You sound psychotic.

>>1432506
>we
Who is 'we'? You have a mouse in your pocket, faggot?

everyone be proud of esl shill, he just learned about phonics

>>1432509
He was quoting >>1432502 retard

>>1432479
>the majority of the people impacted by the Trump tax are the poor
This is literally only true because the majority of the people in the US are "poor" compared to "rich". The tax doesn't apply to anyone more than anyone else, it's agnostic to social class. Even wealthy people are getting hit with tariffs on imported foreign autos and luxury goods

>>1432478
>Being so brainbroken that you think Dems want higher regressive taxes
>Being so brainbroken that you think Republicans are against increasing regressive taxation when they've wanted to eliminate income taxes and replace them with sales taxes for decades
At least rabid sports fans fucking follow games and learn stats. This isn't tribalism. This is being a member of a fucking cult.

>>1432524
>just eat the cost bro
kek

>>1432497
>Unfortunately voting is not going to fix all the shit that's going wrong
Cocksucker, we all know you aren't talking about community organizing. Either get a gun and put you money where your mouth is, or shut the fuck up and stop acting like both sides are equally bad, especially when one side has objectively been behind 90% of the worst shit since 1960.

>I really wish the fans of team red and team blue would stop attacking each other and start organizing with eachother
Toward what, ass-hat? Team Red has been motivated by nothing but culture war bullshit for almost 2 fucking decades. Why in Allah's name would they join forces with the people they think are an existential threat to their way of life? Shut the fuck up with your kumbaya bullshit, pull your head out of your ass, and recognize only one side is the fucking problem. You can't work together toward a common good with people that view reactively obstructing anything you would ever want to do as the highest good you can do on earth after sucking off billionaire pedophiles.

God I hate motherfuckers like you. At worst you're stochastic terrorists. At best you're useful idiots undermining organized political opposition. There is not a better nonviolent solution to governance than voting and any argument to the contrary is that of an idiot or a violent coward. And not all candidates equally harm or serve the civic good. Fuck you and burn in hell.

>>1432461 (OP)
He will just continue to fire the head of Bureau of Labor Statistics until he gets a number he wants.

>>1432532
When do you think he will come across the right person?!

Yeah that's pretty fair

>>1432527
There's the true POS underneath it all. Screech, Karen NOBODYS VOATING ANYMORE!! BLUE TEAM BEST TEAM!! HATE ORANGE MAN NOW!!

>>1432461 (OP)
its fine rescheduling cannabis to schedule 3 will add in 500k jobs, trump's openly talked about it and i'm fully expecting it to happen within the next few months.

>>1432527
I read this post and it sounds just as unhinged as conservatives ranting about Democrats.
Horseshoe theory is real

>>1432549
>>1432551
relax shill

>>1432551
Eat a bag of dicks. Some of us actually fucking follow politics. I've seen enough Republicans take credit for infrastructure projects and welfare initiatives they voted against to know they are ideologically bankrupt and incapable of working across the aisle for jack shit and they have been since at least the fucking party of no era. Not to mention the moral bankruptcy of the Trump years and the aforementioned decades of fucking up the country on major issues from civil rights to the economy to international relations. I'll have a kind word for Republicans when they start voting for something other than incompetent ghouls that promise to fight their culture war for them in exchange for all the graft they can get.

>>1432549
Voter participation has been climbing for decades, you bleeding cunt. And be less obvious about being a Republican against voter participation because you know your side does better with lower turnout because you're a bunch of obsessive cultists.

>>1432551
he's right though democrats are a danger to humanity and massive hypocrites, people vote conservative just to piss those types off.
>>1432554
>other than incompetent ghouls that promise to fight their culture war for them in exchange for all the graft they can get.

maybe you should've put in bernie instead of clinton then huh, or anyone other then Kamala hell you wanted to win put in Michelle Obama. That's literally the democrat MO, both of your candidates have done nothing but make their whole political campaign be "I have no plan but I'm better then orange hitler vote for me or ur a nazi"
Conservatives will win in 2028 again because democrats are actual subhuman out of touch pieces of shits.

>>1432551
Ah yes, the person calling for working to solve our problems with "voting" is the unhinged one.

>>1432554
buddy you know the weed issue? biden and chuck schumer have been grifting about it for the past 4 years saying we'll reschedule it don't worry we will never bought it up for a vote.
Democrats are evil garbage, republicans are less obnoxious when they do that.
AOC literally attacked a hero who restrained a mentally ill potential serial killer and wanted him to rot in jail. Democrats are out of touch stupid and horrible people and now you will suffer for it.
Enjoy the pain of the next 4 years and the 4 years after. you will lose everything your home your family your dog your cats and you'll have yourself to blame for propping up human feces.
Any competent politician that wasn't a complete whack job would've beaten trump if it wasn't for the past decade of far-left culture war torture you're just getting your just deserts now suffer.
anything is better then the blue cunts being back in power, I'd even support revisiting slavery as long as it prioritizes blue state white karens

>>1432556
you're literally not american

>>1432556
Shut up, you politically illiterate cunt. You're either a leftist that would rather attack Dems than Republicans or a right winger. Stupid or evil, either way your words are fucking worthless. Yeah, Dems have shitty political sense, but that doesn't make them a danger to humanity. It especially doesn't make them the problem you should be focused on. We just went from the most pro-union president since WWII to Trump, and you have the gall to criticize Dems as the fucking problem and farcically suggest Michelle Obama deserves to be fucking anywhere near the fucking White House over Kamala Harris? No, the problem is Republicans and voters like you (or more likely non-voters like you). Fuck all the way off.

>>1432559
>I'd even support revisiting slavery as long as it prioritizes blue state white karens
God, Dems have the best fucking enemies, I'll give them that. "People" like you are a waste of carbon.

>>1432559
oh, i missed your newest drivel. you're still not american. sorry for the double post

This thread is unsettling. People are getting absolutely ass blasted over criticism of their favorite political sports team.
I literally find this type of mind set so foreign. At certain times I may view political candidates positively or negatively regardless of their political party. And often my views change over time. I find this sort of political demagoguery behavior so alien and weird. It's like, dude, it's criticism of a politician or a political party, don't take it personally

>>1432564
my views change too but i've never been a fan of a fat faggot who destroys the country on purpose

>>1432564
>It's like, dude, it's criticism of a politician or a political party, don't take it personally
Unfortunately we live in a real country where political outcomes can lead to personal outcomes for people.

If you aren't taking shit personally, you shouldn't be voting, and you definitely shouldn't be criticizing other people for their political takes. You should be counting your blessings that you're socially and economically isolated from power enough for it not to threaten you and shutting the fuck up.

Look, I get it, politics should be civil. It's just honest disagreements about policy decisions regarding an unfortunately necessary bureaucracy. We all want to work for our collective best interests. Except it fucking isn't, we don't, and that hasn't been the case for fucking years. Literally all civility politics did was legitimize reprehensible bullshit from a party that hasn't responded in kind since like fucking 2006. One side of the political spectrum is human excrement and deserve to be treated like pariahs to drive people away from voting for them so they can stop getting away with their evil, destructive bullshit. It's just that fucking simple.

We can revisit civility when we don't have lunatics destroying the economy and public health and cynically weaponizing government against their cultural and political enemies.

And people like you can shut the fuck up until you have a real problem to complain about.

>>1432568
>Literally all civility politics did was legitimize reprehensible bullshit from a party that hasn't responded in kind since like fucking 2006.
Which party are you talking about, exactly?

>>1432576
the one that started vietnam 2.0 would be my guess

>>1432561
aww look at the out of touch stupid moron
Kamala literally went karen mode on the teamsters union rep and got them to rescind their vote but that's fine right
.No the problem is out of touch losers like you you deserve what you get and you're just proving it now.
Michelle Obama would've been a 5x times better candidate then Kamala the fact that you don't realize that just shows how stupid you are.

>>1432577
If he's talking about republicans, he's retarded, because republicans have been on the receiving end of the culture war for twenty years.
Last I checked it was only party unironically suggesting that kids can make informed decisions about their own healthcare.

>>1432560
>>1432562
I spy two hideous slaves for when trump enacts the criminal labor act, where traitors lose their human rights and are sold to whoever is willing to pay the state's fee.
You are going to make such a nice labor slave.

>>1432582
Republicans invented the concept of the culture war and then declared themselves moral crusaders against the satanic evil commies, remember?

>>1432561
>but saying kids under 18 should be able to consent to body altering disfiguration is fine
https://www.standingforfreedom.com/2021/10/13/loudoun-county-schools-had-a-father-arrested-to-cover-up-his-daughters-rape-by-a-skirt-wearing-male-student-in-a-girls-bathroom/
>pro-child rape stance is fine as long as it protects a supposed protected class made up of self-identified middle-upper class rich nepobabies with anti-social and psychotic behavior

But muh labor unions
Ya your words are worth less then my fish's shit.

>>1432583
leftists censored media started screeching about how republicans did it then just started calling everything and anything "problematic" and using whataboutism as a comeback when people call out their sheer hypocrisy.
No one's talking about mccarthyism nowadays because they aren't relevant but leftists are actual garbage human beings.

>>1432568
>cynically weaponizing government against their cultural and political enemies.
except when you're the ones doing it amirite?
democrats spent the last decade weaponizing and trying to censor the internet on anything they disliked but that was fine,
Its bad now that trump is doing the same thing back to you though huh. maybe you should just kill yourself already

>>1432585
your entire life's narrative is garbage, shill. get a real job

>>1432586
>maybe you should just kill yourself already

>>1432587
I live in reality and don't bury my head in the sand unlike you.

>>1432586
>except when you're the ones doing it amirite?
Leftists have no neutral definition of anything. They have to fit whatever they view into larger power dynamics.
If oppressed, it's good, and if having power, it's bad. No American leftists would argue for open borders on a native reservation, but france? The US? racist for not letting in millions.
Same reason why they piss and shit whenever illegals are deported.

>>1432591
>>1432593
you're really on a rampage tonight, huh esl shill. u mad?

>>1432594
I'm happy that cartel members are getting bombed and that democrats are endlessly seething.
Retards can't figure out why the party supporting gangs that chainsaw people to death are unpopular.

>>1432595
it was a yes or no question faggot, i don't need your truth post

>>1432596
Thank you for the insight rajneesh

and here we are yet again, esl shill is triggered enough to start hating his own people. thanks for playing

>>1432593
agreed they're the typical say anything promise anything to get elected and do nothing conman stereotype. they've gone way over board in the past decade though to the point its blatantly obvious not only are they a bunch of disgusting conman they're out of touch conman.
Not really surprised republicans won when people think the average democrat is AOC or worst and puts mentally ill serial killers above the lives of regular civilians.
>>1432594
first one's mine 2nd isn't retard Maybe you should just die.
typical far-left moron tactic to just scream esl esl and never actually argue the points. democrats truly are the party of incompetent moronic babies, I hope trump fucked you to death with his policy changes

>>1432599
>rape fantasies
LOL

>>1432600
I'll be satisfied with a news post about you going mental and being put into an asylum for the rest of your life as well.
you're too disgustingly vile for me to fap to. democrats are all disgusting fat male feminist sex pests or obnoxious check yo privileges karen types.

>>1432581
>Last I checked it was only party unironically suggesting that kids can make informed decisions about their own healthcare.
You're still butthurt that that daughter you raped got an abortion, huh?

>>1432580
>Michelle Obama would've been a 5x times better candidate
Michelle Obama has no experience in government and is part of a political dynasty. I don't want just good candidates you stupid fuckin blowhard. I want competence.

>Kamala literally went karen mode on the teamsters union rep and got them to rescind their vote
1. It's an endorsement.
2. They didn't rescind it. They never gave it.
3. Teamsters made their choice before Kamala was even the fucking nominee. The RNC appearance was decided in fucking June, dipshit.
4. Fuck those dipshits. Look what that shit got them. Biden couldn't have done more for unions and now American manufacturing is falling off a cliff, the government's anti-union as fuck, and the economy is in the shitter.

But hey, now we see what both sidesing politics get you, kicked in the fucking dick.

>>1432584
Yes, I get it. You're a culture war cultist. I don't care. You're exactly the sort of shit stain voting for demons to fight your culture war for you that I've already called out in this thread. We didn't need an example. Don't you have some children's athlete's genitals you could be "inspecting"?

>>1432585
>leftists censored media
Fucking what? Unless you're bitching about something like the removal of blackface from reruns of old cartoons, what the fuck are you talking about? And even that bullshit's not done for political reasons. It's done because the fucking rights holders know parents don't want their kids looking at that sort of shit. Media censorship is invariably right wing bullshit.

>>1432586
>democrats spent the last decade weaponizing and trying to censor the internet on anything they disliked but that was fine
>Enforcing ToS so advertisers don't see sites as nazi hellholes is left wing censorship

holy meltdown

>>1432521
Nice opinion you pulled out of your ass but
https://www.cato.org/blog/tariffs-tax-poor-more-rich
>Cox and Acosta lay out how U.S. “tariffs are systematically higher on lower lower-end versions of goods relative to their higher-end counterparts.” The authors note how the regressive pattern is particularly pervasive in final consumer goods categories. In fact, lower-end versions of these goods are subject to tariffs on average, four percentage points higher than their higher-end counterparts.
>Acosta and Cox also examine the implications of the regressive tariff code and find that “consumers would save little over $4 billion on imported goods… if the regressive pattern were eliminated.” The authors go a step further and calculate that by uniformly lowering tariffs by 5 percentage points, “the average welfare gain for an individual earning $20,000 per year is about two times higher than an individual earning $100,000 per year.”

>>1432593
>No American leftists would argue for open borders on a native reservation
I would actually? Free movement is kind of a leftist principle.

Actually there was a recent court case regarding public control of roads running through a reservation that the tribe wanted to revoke. They lost and they fucking deserved to.

Eat a sack of dicks.

Also maybe stop imagining your enemies as trash to justify "stooping down to their level" in your head? Your enemies are actually just much better than you, and you're only making yourself worse.

>>1432521
>The tax doesn't apply to anyone more than anyone else
An increase in the cost of shit you buy is invariably going to hit people harder depending on how much of their income they spend on shit. The more of your money goes into savings, the less you fucking pay.

Also an increased cost to imported shit is invariably going to hit people that buy imported shit more. And since imported shit tends to be cheaper than domestic alternatives, guess who the fuck that is?

God you're just fucking spectacularly dumb.

>>1432604
>part of a political dynasty
ya real big dynasty her husband was popular
>I don't want just good candidates you stupid fuckin blowhard. I want competence.
well you got neither with kamala
>They didn't rescind it. They never gave it.
dipshit watch the teamster interview with tucker carlson. you're so out of touch and honestly so fucking stupid its really showing.

>Media censorship is invariably right wing bullshit.
pfft leftist out of touch loser, my b you just call it "problematic" and send hate mobs after people who produce the content its definitely not censorship just problematic targetted harassment completely different

>>Enforcing ToS so advertisers don't see sites as nazi hellholes is left wing censorship

oh but domestic terrorism is fine right? reddit thinks a trump sub is too much but platforms countrywide doxing.
talk about out of touch. maybe you get out of your echo chamber more but then again people like you are always the type to be in denial. No point treating you like an actual person you're just a trained pathetic little doggy get fucked.

>>1432609
>dipshit watch the teamster interview with tucker carlson
Wow. Didn't think my opinion of you could get lower.

Stopped reading there. God, you're human trash. See, this is the sort of shit I'm talking about when I call my political opposition stupid, evil, cultists. They really can't help but let the worst sorts of people speak and think for them.

>>1432604
https://laborunionnews.substack.com/p/worth-a-watch-the-teamsters-sean
teamster would've endorsed her. your comment just shows you're full of shit and don't know anything.
>>1432610
>blah blah blah I don't want to hear anything that conflicts with my world view even if i'm objectively wrong and stupid.
Oh yes the teamster representative having an interview telling his side of the story about how they planned to endorse Kamala but ended up not because she was a karen.
Pfft its funny you love screaming about muh fake news then go and cry about how everything except what supports my world view is fake news.
Its almost like you're a pathetic cultist in an echo chamber your words not mine.

you're fucking stupid hahaha.

>>1432610
>your news is fake
>but my news is real
>I support antifa because they're named antifa who cares if they commit political violence they're named antifa
>I refuse to listen to anyone unless they interview on a platform that panders to me.
Ok and leftists wonder why no one want to be associated with them anymore.

>>1432611
hey didn't multiple individual unions pledge support to her and the guy running the teamsters instead partied with Donald Trump throughout his entire campaign? Or did I just hallucinate that?

Acting like they didn't get major backlash from their own members for the bullshit they pulled with their endorsement is just memoryholeing

>>1432613
>running the teamsters instead partied with Donald Trump throughout his entire campaign? Or did I just hallucinate that?
you hallucinated it, the person in question is chumming up to trump but unless you can find something I haven't been able to, its all been post election.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/08/us-news/democrats-f-ked-us-teamsters-boss-says-after-members-backed-trump/

2/3 of their labor members backed trump on a poll. for an organization that's traditionally been a major blue endorser.

>>1432614
>2/3 of their labor members backed trump on a poll
Oh yeah. The poll. The poll the leader rigged to justify his support of Trump well after he already hitched his horses to his campaign. How odd that he had 66% support and yet FIVE SEPERATE STATE CHAPTERS all released explicit support for Harris right after this bullshit broke?

>https://x.com/teamsters120/status/1836529228663148876?s=46&t=B52LnxbKZ1ddnbPkGQ36iw
Also, reminder Trump apparently had so many union supporters he had to FAKE a union rally.
>https://miaflcio.org/statement-trumps-support-for-workers-a-fake-enterprise/

>>1432615
>supports corporate leaders over actual labor union worker's votes
>the polls are faked because I said so. See the labor leaders wanted to endorse Kamala ignore that trump had the majority of the support from the union base
you're a corpo pig lol so pathetic

>his support of Trump well after he already hitched his horses to his campaign.
except he didn't though teamsters didn't endorse trump, they were planning to endorse Kamala as shown by the document you just sent inspite of their members being overwealmingly supportive of trump.
Maybe you should die you're clearly not cut out to live in a world where you need to be able to articulate properly.

>>1432616
>except he didn't though teamsters didn't endorse trump
Yeah I'm sure him appearing at the RNC at Trump's request meant nothing.

Poll is faked because Trump's union support literally doesn't exist. Not only did individual state chapter endorse Kamala immediately, but Trump had so little union support he had to fucking FAKE A UNION RALLY SUPPORTING HIM. That isn't shit you do when you actually have 60% teamsters support.

>>1432617
sure he did everything is faked that you don't like.
so out of touch pathetic piss baby. waa waa waa its fake its fake fake news here fake news here waaa its not real mommy its not real because i say so

>>1432618
It's fake because literally nothing else matches up with that level of support. 60% support but 5 separate chapters pledged support to Harris. 60% support but he couldn't even get enough for a rally and had to resort to faking it. 60% support yet Trump literally is one of the most anti-union presidents in the last two decades.

And here's Sean O'Brian, hitching every possible wagon to Trump and then CONVIENTLY finding a 60% poll where he controls who gets asked to participate in it. And I'm sure it's a mass coincidence prior he accepted a speaking role at RNC. Oh, and then afterwards would start softening on right-to-work laws. And supporting Trump's labor picks. AND LITERALLY SUPPORTING TRUMP CULLING UNION MEMBERS VIA DOGE. There's a word for someone who undermines collective bargaining like that. What was it? Oh right; SCAB.

Real talk how has the current administration been treating unions?
They're straight up ignoring the government workers unions, as in literally saying "we're going to ignore the union and every contract the government has signed with them" at several agencies. What's their treatment of other unions?

>>1432612
Yes. Your news is fake and my news is real. I believe Fox News had to pay out $787M dollars cause of that, didn't they?

>>1432621
Destroyed quorum for the NLRB as one of their first acts

>>1432607
> Free movement is kind of a leftist principle.
Except when the police raid homes for illegals, then it's "illegal" and "unfair".

>>1432630
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for banana nut bread.

>>1432630
Source?

1432631 the resident lolcow of /news/ is back using its old 'recipe' script after 'clanker' wore out here >>1431945
>give me a recipe
Which is what it uses when it is mad & seething by being cornered by facts it can't counter, thus by being reduced to 'give me a recipe' it concedes to the one it says that to.

>>1432461 (OP)
This is Biden's economy. Powell, a Biden appointee, needs to be fired, and the new chair needs to lower interest rates to 0.5% to turn this ship around.

>>1432662
Source? I'm pretty sure not even Fox News or Newsmax tries to blame Trump's tariff hobbled economy on Biden.

>>1432628
Wasn't that DOGE?

>>1432667
Well Trump put DOGE into power, and Trump was extremely loud and very transparent about giving Elon such responsibilities before the election, and both were very transparent about wanting to replicate the twitter layoff on government.

So I don't know what union members were thinking if they voted for that.

>>1432617
>FAKE A UNION RALLY SUPPORTING HIM.
It wasn't fake if it captured the sentiment. Trump has 80% union support, but he didn't need that 20% blueshitters to ruin it. Even union members can tell that unions are a cancer and that right to work and right to fire laws make a healthier economy that everyone can benefit from.

>>1432672
We'll see about the "healthier economy" part.

>>1432672
>It wasn't fake if it captured the sentiment.
It was fake in that the people there literally weren't union members you retard. "Oh but I totally have real union support! So much I couldn't even decide which real union members I could have promote me, so I hired some fake ones instead!"

>>1432625
meanwhile CNN was found guilty of defamation and provably lied regarding the navy seal, but i'm sure you're just going to ignore all of that because CNN muh good fox muh bad i'm definitely not a cultist.

>>1432625
>>1432677
the transcript that came out from the CNN lawsuit which they settled asap to prevent further discovery literally had CNN journalists mocking and laughing to each other about how they're going to ruin this guy's life.
But that's fine right,
my god leftists are such disgusting vile pigs, i'm going to enjoy you getting fucked to death.

esl shill is having rape fantasies again

>democrat clowns using esl think it's a comeback
>self reporting as ignoramus hypocrits

>>1432679
>my god leftists are such disgusting vile pigs, i'm going to enjoy you getting fucked to death.
Name one (1) good thing the left has produced. Can't. They have been destroying civilization since they fucked over monarchies (the most natural form of human government). America would stretch from the Baltic to the equator if it wasn't for these chucklefucks.

>>1432680
Coping hard, lying, and a transexual fetish are literally all they have

>>1432677
>>1432679
Why are chuds so obsessed with CNN? They haven't been relevant in 20 years.

>>1432682
Who are you trying to bait with this post?

>>1432682
we still might get canada by end of next year. them leafs have a debt to the us like the ukraine has to russia. it would be easy to take it.

>>1432685
>leftist sexpest brings up fox
>someone brings up CNN
>oh fox is evil but CNN doesn't represent us who cares what they've done
>insert 20copes about how CNN isn't really left wing, their domestic terrorism support doesn't matter, platforming doxing doesn't matter, their law suits doesn't matter
>but fox is evil and represents all right wingers

Ya leftists are subhuman whiny babies.

>>1432687
Yes please go ahead and take all these fucking elbow up retarded old boomers.
>>1432688
was meant for>>1432684

awww, its talking to itself to gaslight people into thinking its lies about CNN are valid

>>1432688
>everyone I don't like is a leftist
How did you get like this?

>>1432691
he's off his meds

>>1432691
everyone who says chuds and maga is a leftist.
>>1432692
you're going to rot in prison.
>>1432690
>easily proven true by a google search
oh right you're such a cultist you refuse to search for information you just blindly suck up to your beloved leftist leader such a pathetic loser

So we're not going to talk about the actual economy anymore? I didn't come in here to hear screeching about CNN. It's like derailing the thread was the goal.

>>1432694
Who radicalized you?

>>1432698
human filth like you.
>>1432696
>leftist brings up fox news first
>someone brings up CNN in comparison
>leftists starts screeching about the thread getting derailed
talk about hypocrisy amirite

>>1432701
CNN is shit, so is Fox. I never defended CNN at any point in this thread. There's other posters in this thread.

A big difference between you and me is that CNN, or any other news outlet, doesn't live in my mind rent free and I don't to mention it in literally every post I make. You want to go back to the thread topic or not? I think I know the answer.

>>1432702
you literally bought up fox first you fucking moron.
I didn't use CNN you fucking bought up fox now kill yourself.
sure it doesn't pfft fucking lying cunt

>>1432703
lmao no I didn't, my other posts are 1432606, 1432621, 1432671, and 1432673. I mentioned neither Fox nor CNN in those and I just wanted to discuss the economy.

I have my answer then, you'll fight hard to make sure you'll spam the thread about muh CNN so that there will be no discussion about the economy. I'll see myself out the door, you have fun screeching.

>>1432694
Did you ever think that they call you a chud because you make rabid screeds about CNN and leftists?

>>1432704
so you budged in and ignored the guy who screeched about fox then just tunnel visioned on CNN why you bring up CNN
ok illiterate subhuman
ya gtfo you're a fucking moron
>>1432707
in response to your rabid response to FOX and your refusal to acknowledge reality.
But that's fine when you do it huh literal human garbage

>>1432704
Trump's treasury secretary went on the sunday shows today and said we need to collapse the Russian economy to make ours grow (so Trump can end the Indian tariffs).
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/treasury-secretary-us-eu-collapse-russian-economy-tariffs-bessent-rcna229616

>>1432709
Fox is just as bad as CNN though. It's weird that you feel the need to give a kneejerk defense of them by attacking CNN. Do you watch Fox?

>>1432712
>saying CNN got sued for defamation and the discovery that came out showed them using their influence to mock and laugh about ruining someone's life because they dislike them is defending Fox
Right did i defend fox? no, are you mentally ill? very likely.

>>1432712
Their brain is just misfiring from a mix of fentanyl and the growing realization that Trump is a lying rapist who fucks kids and hates America

>>1432713
>Right did i defend fox?
Yes, you said >>1432709
>in response to your rabid response to FOX

>>1432461 (OP)
Maga= Menstruating, Autistic, Gay, Automatons. Watching them eat their own hypocrisy while claiming victory is delicious.

>>1432710
Let's ignore the issue that Trump got elected cause he would end Russian aggression on day 1 and now they're saying we need to do economic war on Russia, which takes way longer.

Sure, Russia may stop the war eventually cause it's too costly. They've suffering high casualties and getting sanctioned for years at this point. What comes after though? I don't see why India won't continue cozying up with Russia and China. If anything a more sanctioned and poorer Russia is more incentivized to continue selling oil to India.

Me go pick beans since dem illegals work no more. Got lawn gigs on the side. Just so glad to have a job so can pay rent. Glad the wars are over and America is great again.

>>1432461 (OP)
Jobs growth anywhere other than on paper has been down and out for 30 years, and all the growth that there has been has been blacks and browns immigrating to take American opportunities. Things have to change and if this is the only way to change it, to tariff the rest of the outside world and deport all the browns and asians back home, then I'm all for it. There's zero point to any of this if our government isn't here for us and against everyone trying to take advantage of us. (Read: Everyone else)

If you're here and you're not an American of Western European stock, fuck off. We were full when your grandparents got here and we're full now.

>>1432715
congratz saying CNN is fucking dogshit too stop licking up to CNN your beloved CNN overlord is defending fox in your head
please just off yourself.

>>1432718
I'm surprised they want to team up with the EU on anything since they're on record as hating the EU's security policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_JD_Vance_speech_at_the_Munich_Security_Conference

>>1432738
Well Vance is a le ebin antiwoke tradwarrior while Bessent has been relatively much more focused and stuck to the facts when talking about the economy. You are thinking under the assumption that the administration sat down and drew up a consistent policy plan and everyone agreed to follow it consistently. I think everybody does and says whatever they want and it's okay as long as it earns them "respect" (the mob boss type) from Trump, so I'm not surprised Bessent said that.

>>1432743
>You are thinking under the assumption that the administration sat down and drew up a consistent policy plan and everyone agreed to follow it consistently.
Haha, yes silly me for thinking foreign policy professionals would be involved. I guess they DOGE'd all of those people from the State Department.

>>1432689
>was meant for>>1432684
You fucked up
>retarded
Yes you are, projectionist

>>1432679
>But that's fine right,
No, it's not, and I don't recall holding up Alex Marquardt as worth jack shit. You're the dumbass defending Tucker fucking Carlson.

Every side has bad actors, but only one side refuses to ditch them no matter how reprehensible their behavior.

>>1432688
>leftist sexpest brings up fox
To be abundantly clear, this discussion started with a right winger bringing up Tucker Carlson, not Fox.
>but fox is evil and represents all right wingers
1. Yes, Tucker Carlson is evil
2. Yes, Tucker Carlson represents people specifically using him to argue a point. Repeatedly, I might add.
3. Fox News was literally only brought up in reference to Tucker Carlson costing them hundreds of millions of dollars. It was about him fucking personally in response to repeated citations of Tucker's personal show post Fox. Dipshit.

>>1432764>>1432763
leftist cope is incredible talk about hypocrisy lmao
enjoy 2028 losers
>only one side refuses to ditch them no matter how reprehensible their behavior.
ya leftists, all you losers have done is made up excuses on how they're irrelevant don't represent you or downplay what they did
just fuck off you disgusting filth.

>>1432765
What do you think is going to happen in 2028, according to your headcanon?

>>1432768
https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/trackers/the-democratic-party-favorability
what do you think?

>>1432765
Saying someone doesn't represent you isn't an excuse. It's what you're supposed to do when they're a shitbag. You should try it sometime. Maybe then you could stop bitching about people correctly pointing out you're represented by all the human scum you cling to like a piece of debris at sea.

You can, in fact, choose who the fuck you want to represent you. Or at least people with an ounce of shame and personal responsibility can.

>>1432770
take responsability you sub human garbage instead of making excuses.
leftists keep shrugging off responsability then making excuses when people call out their sheer hypocrisy
just fuck off you aren't a human being you're a pampered piss baby karen who should just kill himself.
>Or at least people with an ounce of shame and personal responsibility can.
which clearly you don't have you fucking loser

>>1432771
esl

>>1432771
>take responsability
I am. By not defending or associating with shitty actors. I'm beginning to think you understand responsibility about as well as you can spell it.

If someone does something you don't agree with and you continue to associate yourself with them and defend them, you aren't being responsible. You're abetting them.

>>1432771
What the fuck is this moral sunk cost bullshit? Since when is responsibility standing by someone no matter how shitty they are?

>>1432773
>I am. By not defending or associating with shitty actors.
no you're just doing that by pretending the human garbage standing next to you isn't you but everyone else you hate is represented by muh evil fox.
you're a disgusting hypocrite and its no wonder the democrat human scum like you are hated by the average person.
just fuck off you disgusting hypocrite
oh yes associating and defending no one but you're the rat scurrying away pretending oh they don't represent me i'm not a terrorist a doxing criminal a vile sex pest when you are.
>>1432774
when human filth like you began the muh everyone whose not a democrat is a far-right neo-nazi represented by this person leftist media puts on tv.
just fuck off no one takes you seriously anymore you're a disgusting bunch of hypocrites with double standards.
You know what gets people annoyed the sheer hypocrisy of fucking losers like you and>>1432773

>>1432775
You really are morally insane.

>>1432776
I'm consistant unlike you democrat scum.

>>1432777
a consistent faggot

>>1432769
You keep posting this like you think it means there isn't going to be a blue wave against Trumpism but you're wrong.


>>1432777
LMAO

>>1432781
where's ur blue wave at eh? trump is going to reoccupy and send you to allagator alkatraz 2 you fucking dipshit.
you aren't going to get back power until you're dead

>>1432782
where's your spellcheck, remedial faggot

>>1432777
>I'm consistant
Yes. That's the problem. A rational person changes their stances as they learn new information that relates to their moral framework.

You view standing by someone no matter what as moral consistency, but it's just behavioral consistency. You're a sheep with no grasp of right and wrong. I doubt you could name a single person you've ever turned your back on. You're a walking tool.

>>1432782
It's already happening.
https://floridaphoenix.com/2025/09/04/florida-democrats-say-special-election-win-margins-bode-well-for-2026/
Part of the reason why is the shitty economy.

>>1432785
>You view standing by someone no matter what as moral consistency
no that's human garbage like you,
you're a piece of radicalized garbage that whenever one of your own gets called out just pretends they don't represent your movement.
it's cultish behavior at its peak. you're a disgusting vile human being and you're showing your clear narcassism.
>>1432788
"While it was no surprise that two Democrats easily won special legislative elections in Orange County on Tuesday night"

>>1432789
>"While it was no surprise that two Democrats easily won special legislative elections in Orange County on Tuesday night"
Yes.

>>1432789
>You view standing by someone no matter what as moral consistency
>no that's human garbage like you,
>>1432775
>oh yes associating and defending no one but you're the rat scurrying away
I see we've reached the part of the conversation where you're cornered and flipflopping on your positions at will.

Ah well, seek help nutbag. I made my point.

>>1432791
you never had an argument you're just a narcassist that loves to pretend you're in the right then when your movement has horrible people you always pretend they don't represent you but the opposition is always represented by the worst.
I don't pretend those people don't exist you fucking do you disgusting human being I hope you kys.

>>1432792
your life is sad

>>1432793
>Ah well, seek help nutbag. I made my point.
loser

>>1432792
>>1432795
Go outside.

>>1432789
That isn't the only election they won though

>>1432782
>fascist goes full mask off and reveals he only cares about being allowed to torture and dehumanize those he disagrees with

>>1432806
coming from the bigotted facist who thinks calling himself ANTI facist justifies assault and murdering people through political violence.
How would you feel if trump created the LGBT defense association and used it to curb stomp on them huh?
you're such a retard

>>1432809
Not him but fascism is a right wing ideology

>>1432792
>you're nothing but a narcissist
what a coincidence so is Trump

>>1432792
>I don't pretend those people don't exist
Nobody said you pretend those people don't exist. The opposite is true. You suck their cocks and refuse to distance yourself from them.

And your only counterargument is
>Nuh uh, you do.
while simultaneously bitching about others distancing themselves from the shitty people on their side.

Your complaints are incoherent, your ethics are nonexistent, and you have no fucking defense of yourself except to attack your opposition. I'd say you argue like a child, but it would be an insult to children.

>>1432777
>I'm consistant
>consistant
in proving consistently that you aren't American or you would know how to spell 'consistent'.

>>1432823
Not him but this isn't reddit no one cares about spelling and grammar

>>1432827
people who actually speak english regularly care, but i understand why you don't

>>1432831
No they don't. You're on a forum for porn and anime.

>>1432812
>i'm calling myself a left winger I can't be a violent bigot.
>>1432818
you deserve each other
>>1432819
no you're literally pretending they aren't on your side you disgusting pig.
>>1432823
>>1432831
"esl" is code for I can't argue so i'll be a grammar nazi.

>>1432836
Something tells me you were bullied by a leftist when you were a kid, or maybe a leftist fucked the girl you like, and this is how you turned out.

>>1432839
Leftists are all rapists like you.
maybe people wouldn't hate you so much if you weren't a bunch of sex pests

>>1432836
esl is what you get called when you make yet another error that a 5th grader wouldn't. sorry it upsets you faggot, maybe you should study harder

This will fuck over the cities more. This is vengeance. This is what you leftists get for fucking up our way of life. We countryfolk just wanted to be left alone but you had to force your woke mindvirus on us. Well you fucked the bull in the ass and now you are paying with the horns.

>>1432841
>esl
coming from the retard that doesn't know how to use capitals huh
maybe you should just die

>>1432842
>Well you fucked the bull in the ass and now you are paying with the horns.
What are you blabbering about now?

>>1432842
you're kind of gay, esl shill. you're russian aren't you.

>>1432827
>No one cares about spelling and grammar
>needs to reply
>No one cares
But you do, or you wouldn't have replied. But then, you cannot spell Replied without the word Lie.
>posts using correct spelling and grammar
You care about proper spelling and grammar or you would be like him >>1432777 and not do so. So why aren't you if "no one cares about spelling and grammar" here in 4chan?
>>1432836
>"esl" is code for I can't argue so i'll be a grammar nazi
Whining about being called out on your educational inferiority is a code for 'I'm not American', so you'll use the excuse "Grammar Nazi" which further proves you aren't American, as you haven't learned in English classes that Spelling =/= Grammar.
The illiterate >>1432836 is going off the rails again.

>>1432847
you literally can't argue so you go esl esl as a distraction it's pretty pathetic
before that it was whataboutism
talk about pathetic subhuman behavior
also good boy you started using capitals because I said so
good doggy.

>>1432842
>countryfolk
Foreign, and not American.
>country
Modern Americans live in modern cities.
>>1432842 is probably Brazilian.

>>1432848
stop crying and learn how to spell, faggot

>>1432850
oo whose the mad little leftist doggy, you're so cute you can't argue you can't do anything but get mad and cry.
whose a cute doggy.
gonna learn a new trick buddy?
whataboutism esl nazi milkshakey ducky magat what's next cute doggy?

esl shill's meltdowns are iconic

Proof that >>1432848 >>1432851 can never argue, but only shitpost.
That's the difference between Americans and you: you're not civilized or you wouldn't behave the way you do in 4chan.
I've never behaved the way you do here. So what's your excuse?

remember how leftists went after pepe they're horrible people
>>1432853
ESL ESL ESL I can't argue but ESL
what argument did you even bring up all you did was act like a cute little doggy and cry esl?
trump is going to build you a nice dog house and chain you up in there where you belong

>>1432854
people who can't spell don't have the privilege of having arguments in the first place. you're too dumb to be taken seriously

>>1432854
So what's your justification for behaving the way you do in 4chan, certainly as evidenced in >>1432851 and >>1432854, thinking that's a reasoned argument?

>>1432461 (OP)
To get things back on topic, let it be known that lowering the rates is actually going to accelerate our economy's downfall faster.
Everyone screeching for a 0.5% rate at Trump's behest doesn't realize it's going to be the equivalent of Weimar's money printing while the economy is too tied to AI.
Do you people realize that businesses essentially getting free money will destroy the country once the bubble pops?

>>1432857
I presume that's the reason he's been pushing crypto so much, it gives him an alternate currency to play with while the USD fucks over the global economy.
his sons just partnered with a canadian crypto firm hut8 to launch american bitcoin and it just got uplisted to the nasdaq last week.

>>1432861
The Yuan is going to be the global reserve currency by 2028 isn't it?

>>1432862
hard to tell China's been doing what trump's trying to do for decades now they've been intentionally tanking their own currency to lower their prices to get more buyers globally.
So i don't think they're exactly all that appealing either.

>>1432864
Curious how those in Zimbabwe trust Pounds Sterling, Euros, Rands, and even Yuan rather than their own currency.

>>1432866
they don't really have a choice tbf, if you hold onto your zimbabwe dollars in the worst of cases you'll of lost half of your paycheck by next week.
https://www.mycurrencytransfer.com/currency-converter/ZWL-to-USD
here's a price history chart of zwl to usd incase ur interested.

>>1432854
>remember how leftists went after pepe
source?

>>1432917
>>1432854's 'source': 'trust me, bro'

>>1432920
I'm pretty sure he saw a leftist on twitter get mad at pepe so he thinks all leftists everywhere "went after pepe".

>>1432842
>This will fuck over the cities more
Literally nothing fucks over the cities more except pollution. And assfucking the economy is actually good for that.

>out of touch stupid leftist self-replies to himself 3 times and shows he's an out of touch buffoon
Ya i hope trump destroys the economy and they lose everything

>>1432842
>haha! take that cityfolk liberals!
>what do you mean my local farm is going bankrupt and everything in my area is more expensive
>Trump-sama bail me out, please!

>>1432975
How did you get this bad?

/news/ has been skittish lately…

>>1432995
wdym?