Thread 1449126

Military plans to fire artillery over California freeway on Saturday
Laurel Rosenhall, John Ismay and Zolan Kanno-Youngs report. Not adding to the headline that the freeway was CLOSED for this.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/18/us/artillery-interstate-5-marines.html

The Marines fired 155-millimeter artillery shells over a major freeway in Southern California on Saturday as part of a demonstration at Camp Pendleton to celebrate the Marine Corps’ 250th anniversary.

Looking for an excuse to be in the media a constantly outraged Democrat, Gov. Gavin Newsom experienced further outrage late Friday night after his office had been informed days earlier that the celebration would not involve firing munitions across Interstate 5, a heavily traveled corridor between Los Angeles and San Diego.

This is literally the worst thing since five minutes ago when we complained about the last worst thing ever. Newsom continued to be ridiculous claiming:
"This is a profoundly absurd show of force that could put Californians directly in harm's way," Newsom said in a statement to The New York Times.
Which is ridiculous since this is nothing new.
"M777 artillery pieces have historically been fired during routine training from land-based artillery firing points west of I-5 into impact areas east of the interstate within existing safety protocols and without the need to close the route," Dreibelbis said. He called the test firings an "established and safe practice" as a rehearsal for Saturday's event.

>>1449126 (OP)
Lol now the journos are reporting the truth, but hoping you don't have time to read the whole article, huh?

>>1449129
>Lol now the journos are reporting the truth, but hoping you don't have time to read the whole article, huh
This probably is about 80% of any article written that could somehow be related to Trump or his administration or really anything even tangentially related to him

>>1449126 (OP)
>the freeway was CLOSED for this.
ONLY because of the efforts of state officials working from spotty info from the feds. And it wasn't closed on Friday when there were test fires using the same trajectory it would seem.

>>1449154
However, it seems like it's more normal not to close the freeway.
So, it seems the stink was caused to make a news story about Trump out of things that are normal and no one really even knows are normal.

>>1449158
This isn't a case of Camp Pendleton routinely shooting over I-5. At the very least it's irregular.

>>1449163
The source in the article states it's safe, effective and proven.
Sorry.

Retards don't know about parabolic arcs.

>>1449164
>>1449126 (OP)
Annnnd after the fact, turns out closing the freeway was correct because there was fucking shrapnel raining down on it. Legitimately could've gotten someone killed if it'd been in normal operations like the White House wanted.

But I'm sure you retards will never apologize despite the fact you got immediately proven wrong.

>>1449393
If reality mattered to their decision making and ideology, they wouldn't be right wingers

>>1449393
>closing the freeway was correct because there was fucking shrapnel raining down on it
because it had nothing to do with celebrating an anniversary, it was all about trying to punish California

Republicans will never forgive CA for removing the DEI policies keeping them in office, which is why there's barely any in office in CA

>>1449393
What a piece of shit liar. You're literally a bag of shit.
> No mishaps were reported related to the artillery fire.
https://apnews.com/article/california-i5-closed-artillery-marines-vance-newsom-327f869d9f951cabda8248c574d9a186

>>1449403
No mishaps were recorded because the road was fucking closed. What did happen was shards of shrapnel were found on cars parked near it and on it, which could've resulted in an accident if it happened to someone driving down it.
>https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/camp-pendleton-live-fire-demonstration-shrapnel-5-freeway-california-highway-patrol/

>>1449408
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Dude. Seriously?

>>1449410
you're seriously a blight on humanity that should be snuffed out

>>1449410
>Guys it was perfectly safe
>Just ignore the shards of shrapnel that could've easily killed someone if it went through their windshield

>>1449413
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Did you read the article you posted or no?

>>1449415
>"We are aware of the report of a possible airborne detonation of a 155mm artillery round outside the designated impact area during the U.S. Marine Corps Amphibious Capabilities Demonstration at Camp Pendleton, CA, Oct. 18," said a statement from USMC, in part. "The demonstration went through a rigorous safety evaluation, and deliberate layers of redundancy, to ensure the safety of fellow citizens. Following established safety protocols, firing was suspended. No injuries occurred and the demonstration concluded as scheduled. An investigation has been initiated. We are committed to determining the incident's root cause and applying findings to future missions."

This is military formal speak for "oops."

>>1449416
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did you see the picture?

>>1449418
Yeah I saw a chunk of shrapnel that shouldn't fucking be there if this was 'safe'.

Stop talking like a shitty video game NPC.

>>1449419
he's a shill faggot, he can't stop and he will never feel shame for being what he is

This is also ignoring that there's a massive fucking desert right next to where they were, there's no excuse to have to conduct live fire exercises there

>>1449419
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>Chunk
??

>>1449416
>the report
Did it actually detonate midair or is it just some TDS crazed loon claiming it did in one of their increasingly common fugue periods

>>1449436
are you actually paid to do this or is it an even more embarrassing situation

>>1449408
I don't know dude. It literally looks like the guy just placed some sort of pebble on his hood and took a picture of it. There's literally zero damage. It's just a fucking pebble on the hood of his car. You'd think any sort of high-speed shrapnel would hit a hard object like a car, leave a mark and then bounce. But nope, this is just sitting there right on the top like it was placed there by hand

>>1449437
I'm not the one who placed a pebble on the hood of my car and took a picture of it to get attention. You know as well as I do that a high-speed piece of shrapnel would bounce off a hard object like metal and leave a mark, not somehow impact the car at high speed and then come to a complete stop in place. It's fucking simple physics

>>1449439
so you're a shill for the look

>>1449440
I happen to think about the information presented to me rather than shutting off my brain and internalizing it without thinking.
You should try it out sometime

>>1449443
you post what you're told to post anon, no thinking involved. we all know this

>>1449444
Good job proving that you are literally unable to think for yourself, you did it all on your own

>>1449444
On a side note, It's rather enjoyable how you don't shy away from being stupid, you just double down on it and embrace it.

Pretty endearing.

Anyways, ciao!

double posting esl shill clearly feels pressed

>>1449433
Yes anon, that is a chunk of metal?

>>1449438
>>1449436
They literally cancelled the rest of the live fire because of this. The amount of metal shrapnel that can rain on a freeway is fucking 0. You can cry "fake" all you want but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>>1449452
>chunk
It's a dust particle. Can I get a pic of the whole vehicle?

>>1449454
I'll also add it's of unknown origin. Even your article manages to say Highway "claim" it's shrapnel.

>>1449454
>>1449455
can you show us your shill papers? you're not authorized to post here

>>1449456
I read the articles and looks at the photos.
A shill would complain about a dust size particle, claim it caused damage without explaining the level of damage and report on probably false claims.

>>1449126 (OP)
no self respecting person still votes democrat

>>1449473
No one respected by others votes Republican

If this had happened in a red state during the Biden administration, this "it's just a pebble" shill would be calling for someone's execution over this.

>>1449455
>Guys it's not confirmed to be shrapnel
>It's just there was a premature detonation of a live round above the same area and then law enforcement reported getting hit by small bits of metal at the same time
>But it isn't CONFIRMED to be shrapnel

>>1449511
I'll be honest here. When artillery rounds detonate they are meant to send out shrapnel at such a high speed that it shreds vehicles and people. That's literally it's only job. The fact here that the supposed shrapnel impacted the vehicle so softly that it came to rest in-place on the hood of the car without deflecting, or even leaving a ding in the paint leaves me to believe that it's not shrapnel from a detonated artillery shell at all, but a rock kicked up by highway traffic.

>>1449518
>When artillery rounds detonate they are meant to send out shrapnel at such a high speed that it shreds vehicles and people.
Up close you fucking retard.

>>1449524
So you're saying that this supposed detonation was so far away that it was harmless? Sounds like the whole issue is getting overblown then, probably for political reasons

>>1449510
Doubtful. I really only complain about major stuff.
A piece of metal dust woulld not have been on my list.
That's specifically why everyone hates disingenuous Demofaggots these days.

>>1449543
You should really go to your lying classes shill anon, you need to brush up on telling believable lies

>>1449510
No, because Republicans generally know how the military works. Shooting over a highway is pretty normal.

>>1449544
Look, it's not like anyone wore a tan suit or anything

>>1449543
>>1449527
>A piece of metal dust
>Visible shard the size of someone's thumb
Hey quick question: what happens if that goes into someone's window? Like what could've happened if they kept the freeway open?

>>1449549
It didn't even scratch the paint.

This whole ruckus is because JD was present and Newsom decided (for some reason) to start campaigning for President now. So he's looking for any opportunity to kick up a fuss, including what he is doing right now - accusing the Marines of incompetency.

>>1449550
>It didn't even scratch the paint.
First of all, it did. You can literally see the mark in the picture. Secondly, something being unable to penetrate a police car's hull doesn't mean it can't fucking fly through a window and cause a car accident. This type of shit has killed people before, and that's small rocks being thrown off bridges by dumb teens, not fucking shrapnel shards raining down because Vance and Hegseth are retarded.

You do realize even they realized they fucked up and stopped the moment this was reported, right?

>>1449558
>Marines do thing they have always done in the way they have always done it
>Newsom realized Vance is there so he shuts down the freeway (dont need to do this)
>Now someone reports that shrapnel hit the freeway
How convenient.

>>1449561
>>Marines do thing they have always done in the way they have always done it
Literally when have they done this shit over an active freeway before? And don't bring up their little test run; doing it once with no accidents doesn't mean its a good idea, hence why they closed it this time and were immediately proven right to do so.

Now, they have done similar artillery firings before, but literally none of them ever had the trajectory go over the fucking I-5. Their claims that this is "standard procedure" are legitimately complete bullshit as verified by multiple marines who all said any similar stunts in the past have been done in the opposite direction for the exact same safety reasons Newsom cited.

>>1449564
>Literally when have they done this shit over an active freeway before?
Constantly. Read the article.

Shooting over something with arty is very low risk. Its where the shell lands that matters.

>>1449580
>Constantly. Read the article.
Article is repeating the admin's claims. The admin's claims are a fucking lie.

>Shooting over something with arty is very low risk. Its where the shell lands that matters.
You know, unless the shell detonates prematurely. Which, oh right, it did.

>>1449583
>The admin's claims are a fucking lie.
You not liking something doesn't make it a lie.

>Which, oh right, it did.
And barely scratched the paint on a cruiser.

>>1449583
>You know, unless the shell detonates prematurely. Which, oh right, it did.
They claim a shell detonated prematurely.

>>1449585
>You not liking something doesn't make it a lie.
No, testimony from multiple active and former duty marines saying that in all their years of doing similar stunts they always did it in the opposite direction of the freeway does though.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/19/us/politics/shell-interstate-5-marines-california.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
>The decision to fire live artillery shells from the oceanfront training area was described as unusual by an active-duty Marine artillery officer and a former Marine artillery noncommissioned officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they feared reprisal. Those Marines said the only howitzer training they had previously observed at Camp Pendleton had taken place at approved artillery ranges on the main side of base, east of the interstate, which they said were a much safer option for training
BTW when someone asked the admin point blank if they'd ever done this before, they refused to answer.

>And barely scratched the paint on a cruiser.
And if it hit a pedestrian's windshield instead it could've caused a car crash. Again, the amount of acceptable shrapnel hitting a freeway is 0.

>>1449587
Is the military lying now too in your eyes? Because they concurred with that part and stopped the display after it.

Odd for Vance and Hegseth to conspire against themselves with Newsom like that.

>>1449583
>Which, oh right, it did.
Did it actually do this though? Even assuming that the pebble which was placed nicely on the hood of his car is in fact shrapnel from artillery, Is it not equally likely that it simply a tiny piece of metal that was broken loose as the shell was shot?

I mean I would assume if the artillery shell detonated In the middle of the air over I-5, there would be hundreds of witnesses hearing two explosions, one from the artillery being launched and another from the mid-air detonation. Do any of these people actually exist or do we just have a photo of an undamaged vehicle with a pebble on the hood and then the CHP claiming that it detonated mid-air and destroyed a cruiser?

>>1449589
>anonymous sources say
Youre kidding right?
>Again, the amount of acceptable shrapnel hitting a freeway is 0.
I dont think anyone has argued otherwise.

>>1449590
>Because they concurred with that part and stopped the display after it.
No they stopped the live fire based on reports. That doesn't mean it happened. Safety first.

>>1449590
After the CLAIM was reported.
So, what happened was a speck of dust hit a CHP vehicle and dinged it as if it were hail, and the "damage" can't even bee seen in the photo.

>>1449592
>Youre kidding right?
Find me an example of them ever doing this prior. Not them saying "we do this all the time!", an actual past case of them ever doing this kind of stunt over the freeway. The admin couldn't when they were asked, so I wonder if you'll do any better.

>I dont think anyone has argued otherwise.
Except you, who has repeatedly insisted it "just scraped some paint" and was harmless.

>>1449591
PER THE MILITARY THEMSELVES FOR WHY THEY STOPPED FIRING:
>We are aware of the report of a possible airborne detonation of a 155mm artillery round outside the designated impact area during the U.S. Marine Corps Amphibious Capabilities Demonstration at Camp Pendleton, CA, Oct. 18

>>1449595
>>1449596
>Ok guys just because members of the highway patrol reported getting their cars dinged by shrapnel doesn't mean it actually happened
>It totally didn't happen
>That actual photo of a metal shard that dented a car is not proof
>Obviously he just told two members of the highway patrol to dent their own cars and then tell the marine corp who were literally right next to them
>Obviously nothing could ever go wrong firing live ammunition over a freeway, how could you believe it could?

>>1449597
>PER THE MILITARY THEMSELVES FOR WHY THEY STOPPED FIRING
Yes. A report of an incident so they stopped. This does not mean it happend.

>>1449597
>find me examples
You've never seen an "Overhead fire in progress" sign on a road or freeway? Of course not, youre a city dweller.

>>1449599
Yes. A 155mm shell airbursting would do far more than dent a cruiser.

>>1449600
>You've never seen an "Overhead fire in progress" sign on a road or freeway?
No? I can't even find a fucking photo of such a sign, because typically the military isn't retarded and doesn't fire live rounds over in-use freeways.

>>1449597
>We are aware of the report of a possible airborne detonation of a 155mm artillery round outside the designated impact area
Yes, we all are aware of a "report of a possible airborne detonation"

I'm asking you if literally anyone In this hugely populated I-5 corridor has reported an artillery shell exploding over the freeway besides this one person who took a picture of a pebble placed gently on the hood of his car

>>1449603
Took me one search to find one.
>military never does this
t. Has never lived within 100 miles of a base.

>>1449606
>I'm asking you if literally anyone In this hugely populated I-5 corridor has reported an artillery shell exploding over the freeway
Freeway was closed for exactly this reason. Also, good luck spotting an artillery shell that detonated in a slightly different place when they were already shooting several off.

>besides this one person who took a picture of a pebble placed gently on the hood of his car
The person was part of Vance's motorcade lmao. That's part of why it was reported so quickly.

This is such a retarded argument; common sense is "it is probably a bad idea to shoot live artillery over a freeway".

>>1449608
Ok, where is it?

Also, not one in the middle of the desert. One over an active freeway.

>>1449610
Where is what? I grew up in Temple, TX and I've seen those signs more times than I can count. Hence I know about them.

>>1449611
Where's the image? Surely you have a link?

>>1449615
careful, they have shrapnel induced brain problems because they live in a backwards hellhole that conducts live fire exercises over civilians

>>1449609
>Also, good luck spotting an artillery shell
Weird that there isn't like hundreds of reports of people hearing a shell explode over the fucking freeway given how populated this area is, And all we have is a single CHP officer who took a picture of a tiny pebble placed on the hood of his car with no damage whatsoever

>>1449615
>>1449625
Bruh
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQAZ_aLEnPi/

>>1449625
>live in a backwards hellhole that conducts live fire exercises over civilians
Weird thing to call America.

>>1449599
>>That actual photo of a metal shard that dented a car is not proof
I saw the photo and wondered what it would look like if I could see the car and that right there is what damages any credibility of claims from the journos or CHP

>>1449639
Weird how no bodycam footage was released. A 155mm shell exploding above a freeway would make for quite dramatic footage.

>>1449126 (OP)
Fucking awesome. Wish they'd do stuff like this in my state. If we let women whore themselves out all over the internet, how is that worse than the military doing exactly what we pay them to do, but for our amusement for once rather than shelling some desert nobody has heard of? Are you faggots so jaded that you don't want to watch artillery explode stuff?

>>1449646
Have sex, incel

>>1449647
but their dog ran away :(

>>1449643
>>1449639
Exactly this.
I saw the photo as well and my first thought was "where's the damage" lol, there is literally not even a dent or a ding in the paint, or if there is it's so small it's invisible to the camera (which seems unlikely given how highly reflective the paint was in the photo, you can literally see every little micro scratch in the paint from the car being washed but there isn't a single piece of damage from the shrapnel).

And just the fact that this extremely populated area, not a single person reported hearing a fucking artillery shell explode in mid air over the freeway leads me to believe this did not happen as California is reporting it to have.

There's a reason not many publications are actually publishing the photo of what California claims is the cruiser that was damaged, because it's very clear from the photo it wasn't even dinged and this piece of whatever is the size of a pebble that caused no visible damage

>>1449639
>>1449643
>>1449669
Did you own the libs yet?

>>1449669
>there is literally not even a dent or a ding in the paint, or if there is it's so small it's invisible to the camera
How are you posting on 4chan while blind?

>>1449671
Literally looks like a pebble sitting on the dudes hood. There is absolutely no deformation where it's sitting, no ding whatsoever. It's just sitting there as if it either fell softly or was placed there by hand
https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2025/10/19/9e6de7ef-d73e-4146-822f-afd9514ad9f5/thumbnail/640x480/d6971ae673447f8dc0acdb69edd20b7b/0500bd68-d0e0-480a-b30a-2727dd5cae70.png

>>1449676
>If I just ignore the big scratch, the slight dent, and the fact that's far bigger than a pebble, it's basically nothing
I love this conspiracy theory that it's far more likely that they somehow set this whole scenario up instead of the far simpler explanation of "It's a bad idea to shoot artillery over a freeway".

>>1449670
Owning the libs is just good policy.
Fux Nose has the photo of the with the metal on it.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-details-revealed-after-marine-corps-live-fire-round-hits-patrol-car-near-camp-pendleton
Looks like it's about the size of a pea or small marble.

>>1449683
>Owning the libs is just good policy.
Republicans constantly trying to own the libs and failing is making more sense now

>>1449678
No, I don't think anybody set it up. Not at all.
I honestly do think a piece of shrapnel fell on the patrol vehicle.

Given the lack of anybody hearing an artillery shell exploding over an extremely busy freeway, and the lack of actual damage to the cruiser, and the position of the cruiser with respect to the firing (It was a pretty much directly under the line of fire parked on the freeway right in front of the base) I'm inclined to believe that this is a piece of shrapnel that was broken off when the shell was fired from the artillery and it happened to land in the cruiser.

I'm not even defending the practice of shooting artillery over a freeway. I don't think that's necessarily a smart idea when it's as busy as I-5 near San Diego, But I also think this entire situation was blown out of proportion and turned into a political stunt involved artillery shells detonating over the freeway to score points by the California administration.

>>1449683
fox news also paid nearly a billion dollars for the opportunity to keep lying to their brainwashed followers

>>1449678
No, I don't think anybody set it up. Not at all.
I honestly do think a piece of shrapnel fell on the patrol vehicle, I just don't think and artillery shall exploded over the freeway.

Given the lack of anybody hearing an artillery shell exploding over an extremely busy freeway, and the lack of actual damage to the cruiser, and the position of the cruiser with respect to the firing (It was a pretty much directly under the line of fire parked on the freeway right in front of the base) I'm inclined to believe that this is a piece of shrapnel that was broken off when the shell was fired from the artillery and it happened to land in the cruiser.

I'm not even defending the practice of shooting artillery over a freeway. I don't think that's necessarily a smart idea when it's as busy as I-5 near San Diego, But I also think this entire situation was blown out of proportion and turned into a political stunt involving the hyperbolic exaggerated scenario of artillery shells exploding over a busy freeway to score points by the California administration

Man vtt sucks

>>1449678
No, I don't think anybody set it up. Not at all.
I honestly do think a piece of shrapnel fell on the patrol vehicle, I just don't think an artillery shell exploded over the freeway.

Given the lack of anybody hearing an artillery shell exploding over an extremely busy freeway, and the lack of actual damage to the cruiser, and the position of the cruiser with respect to the firing (It was a pretty much directly under the line of fire parked on the freeway right in front of the base) I'm inclined to believe that this is a piece of shrapnel that was broken off when the shell was fired from the artillery and it happened to land in the cruiser.

I'm not even defending the practice of shooting artillery over a freeway. I don't think that's necessarily a smart idea when it's as busy as I-5 near San Diego, But I also think this entire situation was blown out of proportion and turned into a political stunt involving the hyperbolic exaggerated scenario of artillery shells exploding over a busy freeway to score points by the California administration

>>1449689
You don't know that nobody heard it or complained.
>this entire situation was blown out of proportion and turned into a political stunt involving the hyperbolic exaggerated scenario of artillery shells exploding over a busy freeway to score points by the California administration
Yeah right that's why the Vice President showed up.

>>1449689
>lack of anybody hearing an artillery shell exploding over an extremely busy freeway
If an artillery shell explodes over what is usually an extremely busy freeway but is shut down and has no one there, can anyone hear it?

>>1449690
>Yeah right that's why the Vice President showed up
No, that wasn't you lying retard, you are purposefully inverting the sequence of events. The VP showed up for the 250th anniversary event. The event fired an artillery round. The California governor got upset.

The VP didn't show up after the artillery was shot, he was already there, which literally supports my argument of the outrage being hyperbolic.

>You don't know that nobody heard it or complained
There is no evidence anyone heard an artillery shell explode over the freeway, which I imagine would be a very loud event. Feel free to prove me wrong

>>1449691
Are you suggesting that this busy metropolitan area right next to a city was evacuated?
Because all I've read is they only shut down the freeway. You realize there's an entire city right there, right?

>>1449693
>extremely busy freeway
>freeway was evacuated
I'm just trying to make sense of your self-contradicting retardation
Its a good thing you're not getting paid for this sub-quality shilling

>>1449693
why are you arguing a point while simultaneously admitting you have no idea what you're talking about. you know that just makes it clear to everyone you're a fool right

>>1449692
>he was already there
That's why it was a PR stunt ya dingus.

>>1449693
If OP had pasted the full article text we would know these things.

>>1449694
The freeway was extremely busy you retard.
What do you think they do with the cars when they close off a section of it? Do you think the entire I-5 freeway is clear to vehicles throughout the entire state?

I've noticed you can't answer the simple question. Why did nobody hear explosions in this busy metropolitan area? The entire city of Oceanside is right there, population 175k And somehow not a single person reported hearing this artillery shell explode over the freeway

>>1449702
>Why did nobody hear explosions in this busy metropolitan area?
nta but you don't know that they didn't.

>>1449703
>nta but you don't know that they didn't
Quite literally there are no reports of anyone hearing these artillery shells supposedly detonate over their freeway surrounded by a city of 175k. Every news publication refers to this as "a report" referring to the individual officer. They aren't even clear who's making the claim that the artillery shell exploded over the freeway, if the officer claimed that or if it's coming from his office or department and someone is speaking in his behalf...but I digress.

I would happily stop saying this if you share with me a report of someone claiming they heard it explode over the freeway.

>>1449704
Were you in the 911 call center at the time? No? Then shut the fuck up.

>>1449704
>I would happily stop saying this if you share with me a report of someone claiming they heard it explode over the freeway
To clarify, not an article saying "Gavin newsome said it exploded over the freeway".

Even just a passing reference in some publication along the lines of "residents described hearing the boom near the freeway" or anything like that

>>1449705
So you have no evidence that anyone reported hearing this explode over the freeway in this busy area of 175k residents, and furthermore, it makes you angry that I'm asking for such a simple thing to substantiate this claim.

These are signs that you are holding on to an irrational belief

Man, the shill gets really angry and shifts the goalposts every time they have to explain their own shillposts

I wonder if I'm ever going to get an explanation on why they claimed the freeway was both extremely busy and evacuated at the time time, but I don't think they have an actual answer

esl shills thinks all of san diego lives next to a relatively desolate part of the beach on a closed highway, lol

>>1449707
Camp Pendleton even released a statement ahead of time about the noise
https://www.jewbook.com/MCIWPendletonCA/videos/artillery-fire/3063440050370347/
Anyway it's weird that you keep trying to divert the topic to the noise when most of the complaining was about how live firing over the freeway was an unnecessary political stunt done only because it happened in California and Vance and Hegseth were there.

>>1449712
So there is not a single report of anyone hearing it explode over the freeway, leading me to believe nothing in fact exploded over the freeway.

Thanks for clarifying that

>>1449722
Good luck with your delusions. There is probably some big pharma drug you should be taking.

You know, the other thing that gets me about the "shrapnel" is that it didn't bounce or even roll.

>>1449726
Yeah I've pointed this out. Probably half a dozen times in this thread but none of the TDS patients find that to be odd whatsoever

>>1449726
>>1449757
>sealioning intensifies

>>1449757
I didn't see it. I was just thinking that while it's possible it may have fallen directly downward at a near perfect 90 degree angle, it's highly unlikely.
Even so it should've bounced straight up, and, it being an unregular piece of metal, deflected off.
That means one of two things
1. The piece of metal did fall from the sky and hit the vehicle and it was picked up and staged for the photo.
2. Lying faggots are lying like Juicy's Mullet coming home from the Subway.

>>1449765
why don't you book a flight to america and do your own investigation

>>1449766
Because California is owned by liggerals.
It's an absolute shame. It's such beautiful land. It really doesn't deserve to be occupied by raving shitcunts.

>>1449770
i'd say it's about bedtime, bonzo

>>1449726
>>1449757
>The idea of retrieving the piece of metal to show what caused the indent is beyond the MAGAt mind

>>1449126 (OP)
Go fire a firearm over a public road in the presence of an officer of the law and see what happens... rules for thee but not for me...

>>1449403
ofc there were no mishaps, you stupid motherfucker. Do I even need to explain why???