Thread 1454669

In a blow to yet another right wing /news/ shill narrative, Donald Trump has officially declared he will block SNAP benefits despite a court order mandating he fund the program.
This announcement, coupled with his continued acknowledgement that Senate Republicans can and should use the nuclear option to end the shutdown right now, has left right wing shills scrambling for new talking points. It has also led to their all but abandoning the topic of the shutdown on /news/ over the last few days, a stark reversal from their previous campaign to make it the sole topic discussed on this board.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/04/snap-trump-food-shutdown.html

President Donald Trump on Tuesday suggested that the United States would not pay any SNAP benefits during the government shutdown, contradicting a court filing a day earlier by his administration.

Trump said that the benefits, which help feed 42 million Americans, will resume only after Democrats in Congress agree to pass a stopgap funding bill that would reopen the government.

The administration on Monday told a federal judge in Rhode Island that it would pay half of the costs of the SNAP benefits for November.

Trump on Tuesday said in a Truth Social post, “SNAP BENEFITS, which increased by Billions and Billions of Dollars (MANY FOLD!) during Crooked Joe Biden’s disastrous term in office (Due to the fact that they were haphazardly ‘handed’ to anyone for the asking, as opposed to just those in need, which is the purpose of SNAP!), will be given only when the Radical Left Democrats open up government, which they can easily do, and not before!”

The White House, when asked by CNBC for clarification on Trump’s statement given the court filing Monday, said, “Refer you to the President’s truth.”

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, at a briefing later, told reporters that “the administration is fully complying with the court order.”

Leavitt said she had spoken to Trump about his post, and added, “The recipients of these SNAP benefits need to understand it’s going to take some time to receive this money, because the Democrats have forced the administration into a very untenable position.”

“We are digging into a contingency fund that is supposed to be for emergencies, catastrophes, for war, and the president does not want to have to tap into this fund in the future, and that’s what he was referring to in his Truth Social post,” Leavitt said.

She also said that the U.S. Department of Agriculture had issued guidance on Tuesday to individual states about the amount of money being disbursed to SNAP recipients.

The social media post came shortly after lawyers for plaintiffs in a court case challenging the administration’s cessation of SNAP benefits told a federal judge in Rhode Island that the decision to pay partial benefits out of a contingency fund did not meet his prior order that any decision to make partial payments “cannot be arbitrary and capricious.”

The judge, Jack McConnell, had told the administration on Friday that it needed to pay SNAP benefits as soon as possible out of a contingency fund, and that is also needed to investigate whether other federal funds could be used to keep the program fully funded in the absence of a new appropriation by Congress.

The Trump administration on Monday told McConnell that it would use all of the $4.65 billion remaining in the contingency fund, but said it had declined to use at least $4 billion from the Child Nutrition Program to keep SNAP fully funded for November, at least.

Lawyers for plaintiffs in the case told McConnell on Tuesday, “The Court should grant a temporary restraining order and preliminary stay on the ground that Defendants’ decision not to provide full SNAP benefits — even though they have funds available to do so and even though switching to partial payments at this late date will cause devastating delay — is arbitrary and capricious.”

McConnell later told the Trump administration to respond to the request by Wednesday.

The dispute over the continuation of the SNAP benefits in the past week has become a major issue in the ongoing U.S. government shutdown, which began Oct. 1.

Past presidential administrations have continued disbursing funds for SNAP during prior government shutdowns.

But the Trump administration recently said SNAP benefits would end this week because Congress had not approved funding needed to continue the program during the shutdown. The administration, in what is seen as an effort to pressure Democrats in Congress to vote to end the shutdown, also refused to use more than $4 billion in contingency funds that Congress had set aside explicitly for SNAP.

Separate groups of plaintiffs then sued the Department of Agriculture in different federal courts to compel the department to continue paying the benefits.

>>1454669 (OP)
Since when can small-time federal judges in nowhere states order the top executive branch in power?

>>1454676
When they point out the executive is doing something unconstitutional.

>>1454676
1789, I believe.

>>1454677
And SNAP benefits are a constitutional right?

>>1454680
Abiding by the rules of federal government policy is. Official policy for SNAP was that the emergency money would be used if the government was shut down and SNAP participants would be otherwise unable to receive their benefits. The Trump admin not only denied using those funds, but claimed the exact opposite to the point of deleting the policy that said that from the website.

>>1454669 (OP)
Motherfucker's already illegally moving money that Congress has already allocated into whatever the fuck he wants. But doing that with SNAP? Oh no, no, certainly not. Fuck poor people, right?

>>1454669 (OP)
Republicans hate the poorest people because most of them don't pay any income tax. It's been like this for decades.

>>1454680
When congress passes a bill making a fund for a program to be paid out under certain conditions it is unconstitutional for the executive to just not execute it, yeah.

>>1454669 (OP)
Nothing says "radical" like holding the food of 42 million Americans hostage for political reason.
Projection is the ONLY card these people have. They just keep playing it over and over and over.

>>1454669 (OP)
Darn. Seems like the Dems need to vote for the budget or vote for the budget.
>>1454681
This doesn't apply since the budget hasn't been approved. There's no fund to allocate. The government is shut down specifically because it cannot spend money that doesn't exist in a rolling budget.
It simply wouldn't be legal no matter what a rogue judge believes.

>>1454687
I know, Democrats need to just accept they're unpopular losers and simply vote for the budget. They're hurting their own voters with this.

>>1454695
Looks like there's an update to this. dRumpf will partially fund SNAP.

>>1454695
>There's no fund to allocate.
There don’t need to be. SNAP has emergency funds for exactly this, already approved and allocated and ready to go. Trump’s saying they can’t use them.

>>1454695
>There's no fund to allocate.
Nah. The contingency fund was already appropriated last year and it's good until September next year. It's not subject to the shutdown and this was official policy until they took that down off the USDA website recently.

>>1454695
>It simply wouldn't be legal no matter what a rogue judge believes.
It is literally laid out for this exact scenario in their policy.

>>1454676
Rule of law cunt. Then again, why would a known criminal follow the law?

>>1454682
>Fuck poor people, right?
I f*** The poor everyday, my illegal Hispanic cleaning lady lets me have sex with her teenage daughter and I promise not to inform I.C.E on her

>>1454669 (OP)
I remember some Repubs were like "Trump saves Thanksgiving, thanks for the free W democrats" when they said they'd partially fund SNAP... and then Trump just had to turn it all to shit by pulling this.

>>1454697
This post aged poorly.

tRump held a Great Fatsby themed halloween party while Rome burns and starves. step up the evil work sir. Darth renoVader is finally showing some grit

>>1454775
It's still in pay. Democrats need to pass the budget and out holding out for better government funded vaginas for trannies or whatever the fuck they want.

Now somebody explain me this: SNAP got cut. Inflation is up. Shutdown. Eco activity going down. Employment down. Bummercare over...

But Trump does a lavish of a party in Mierda-Lago, everyone filmed it - everyone saw that; nobody fucking cares.

WTF is wrong here. Either I'm a paramecium, and don't have a single brain cell of me own. Or Americans are just done for.

Lesser things brought down govts in nether places. Not in the US, fuck yeah?

>>1454784
Where do you people get this shit from?

>>1454792
Democrats, mostly

>>1454791
Mainline Republicans don't say anything because they're afraid of MAGA, and opposing Trump is a political death sentence. They're career politicians, doing the right thing isn't part of the discussion.
The MAGA base doesn't care because they believe they're fighting for survival and are willing to warp reality to support Trump. I don't think they're interested in details or consequences

>>1454793
Which democrats?

>>1454826
The ones in the tiktoks on x

>>1454682
>Fuck poor people, right?
Of course. Where do you think you are?

snap should be cancelled regardless

>what has happened in NYC, New Jersey, Virginia & California
MAGA will be canceled regardless.
>cancelled
You canceled your English classes, shill.
>should
Nice delusion, so many more people as of today know how this ends,

>starving your own base to own the libs
Surely this won't have repercussions in the midterms...

>>1454871
>Maga will be cancelled
There won't be any other party by the time Trump is out. Hope you like the new normal, because its not going away.

>>1454890
Who cares whether it does or not? The dems are killing themselves over inner city blacks and mexican immigrants. They're clearly not willing to fight for actual Americans, the people that vote for them are too far gone.

>>1455149
You're clearly not able to convince anyone you're an actual american

>>1455149
>cancelled
Hello, non-American that has canceled its right to be called an actual American

>>1455149
>healthcare costs and coverage insecurity are deeply unpopular in the US
>to the extent that the most broadly popular political act in recent times was when a healthcare CEO was shot dead in the street
>republicans have now shut down the government because they are committed to making healthcare more costly and coverage less secure
are they on crack?

>>1455179
ACA and these subsidies the Democrats are trying to preserve caused the rise in healthcare costs.
Once again, faggots posit no solution for the actual problem. And you think these people are the ones who should be in charge?
Morons. All of you.

>>1455180
>Once again, faggots posit no solution for the actual problem. And you think these people are the ones who should be in charge?
As opposed to Republicans, who for over a decade have been demanding to appeal ACA yet still haven't figured out what to do after that.

>>1455183
Or the fact that republicans dismantling the ACA is causing prices to spike.

BTW, TACO is TACOing again since he's further caving on SNAP saying he'll only let kids by 35% instead of cutting off half their food.

>>1455188
It should say a lot that the American President is actively fighting having to feed the American people, in part because he knows his opposition actually cares about them starving.

>>1455189
Or the fact republicans shut down the government over wanting to take healthcare away from the poor.

>>1454684
That's too complicates for retard republicans to comprehend. If the founding fathers didn't explcitily write about snap benefits when they wrote the constitution, then that means trump can do whatever he wants, according to republitards.

>>1455183
>>1455188
Neither are correct. If ACA and the federal mandate did anything positive you'd see that in the states with individual mandates and Medicare expansion.
You don't, so you're incorrect, uninformed and fucking retarded.

>>1455180
>>1455215
Ask me how I know that an authority figure provides your enfeebled mind with opinions.

>>1455215
We don't see medicare expansion in Republican states because conservatives hate the working class and honest working Americans.