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Anonymous No.1456688 [Report] >>1456695 >>1456697 >>1456739 >>1456770
Democrats are furious after folding
Democrats are furious after folding like a lawn chair as they got substantively nothing from the protracted Democrat Shutdown except for now holding the record for longest shutdown
https://thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/5599865-house-democrats-oppose-spending/
Democrats rage as funding bill heads to House

Democrats from both chambers of Congress and differing wings of the party are furious after eight Senate Democrats voted with Republicans to advance a measure to reopen the government.

The Senate passed the spending bill Monday night, and House leaders said they would vote on it as early as 4 p.m. on Wednesday. President Trump said he would “abide by the deal” once it reaches his desk.

House Democrats are widely expected to oppose the bill, while a few moderate members may buck the party and vote for it. Republicans will be operating with an ultranarrow majority to get it to Trump for a signature.

The agreement has also reignited a debate among Democrats over the party’s direction and the right leaders to chart the path forward, with several progressive House members and those running next year calling for Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) to be replaced.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) released a statement declaring his opposition to the agreement before it passed a procedural vote on Sunday. The House will return from an extended two-month recess to vote on the measure.

“We will not support spending legislation advanced by Senate Republicans that fails to extend Affordable Care Act tax credits,” Jeffries said. “We will fight the GOP bill in the House of Representatives, where Mike Johnson will be compelled to end the seven week Republican taxpayer-funded vacation.”

The Hill’s Mike Lillis and Sudiksha Kochi report tensions are boiling over within the Democratic Party, just a week after the party was riding high off its sweeping success in last Tuesday’s elections.
Anonymous No.1456689 [Report]
“What Senate Dems who voted for this horseshit deal did was f— over all the hard work people put in to Tuesday’s elections,” Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), a former head of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, posted on the social platform X. “Healthcare matters. Not platitudes.”

The Hill’s Al Weaver reports how the blowback Schumer is receiving renews questions about his future as leader of Senate Democrats.

Although Schumer blasted the measure and voted against it, his critics are blaming him for not keeping his caucus in line and allowing eight of his members to vote for the proposal without a provision to extend the ObamaCare subsidies, which are set to expire at the end of the year.

Schumer previously prompted liberal fury in March after he broke with most of the party to support a Republican-crafted continuing resolution composed without Democratic input. This time, the New York Democrat did support his colleagues standing their ground and rallying around the expiring subsidies, but progressives have voiced continued distrust.

Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) called on Senate Democrats to replace Schumer as leader, arguing that he can’t meet the moment.

“Senator Schumer is no longer effective and should be replaced. If you can’t lead the fight to stop healthcare premiums from skyrocketing for Americans, what will you fight for?” Khanna wrote on X.

The eight Senate Democrats who voted to advance the measure have defended the move, arguing Republicans were not budging in their demands that the government reopen before discussing a vote on health care subsidies.

The lawmakers also grew increasingly concerned about the impact on air travel from absences and staff shortages after air traffic controllers worked 40 days without paychecks. Thousands of flights have been canceled or delayed in recent days, and disruptions have been expected to get worse heading toward Thanksgiving.
Anonymous No.1456691 [Report]
The lawmakers also grew increasingly concerned about the impact on air travel from absences and staff shortages after air traffic controllers worked 40 days without paychecks. Thousands of flights have been canceled or delayed in recent days, and disruptions have been expected to get worse heading toward Thanksgiving.

“When these controllers are keeping airplanes safe in the air, I don’t want them worried about the paychecks and problems that they have at home,” Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said, explaining his vote.

While most Democrats have criticized the bill, centrist Democratic Reps. Henry Cuellar (Texas) and Jared Golden (Maine) are two who have signaled they plan to support the measure, giving Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) some breathing room to advance it in the House.

“It’s too bad it was closed, but we’re going to be opening up our country very quickly,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Monday.
Anonymous No.1456695 [Report] >>1456696 >>1456710
>>1456688 (OP)
So, why did Democrats shut down the government?
Fucking losers.
Anonymous No.1456696 [Report] >>1456698 >>1456700 >>1456740
>>1456695
You'll realize in about 2 and a half months when millions of people get priced out of health insurance.
Anonymous No.1456697 [Report]
>>1456688 (OP)
>Sudiksha Kochi
Man, I think I want to meet her.
Ro Kahna is disgusting and some kind of beast, just like Chuck Schumer.
India-jew-black alliance controlling the Dems. At least there's some American humans still in the party.
Anonymous No.1456698 [Report] >>1456702
>>1456696
No they won't. Quit fearmongering, tardo.
Anonymous No.1456700 [Report] >>1456701 >>1456702
>>1456696
Oh no, they can't leach off my taxes anymore! What a shame!
Anonymous No.1456701 [Report] >>1456703
>>1456700
>my
esl shill, nobody thinks you're white or american
Anonymous No.1456702 [Report] >>1456704 >>1456713
>>1456698
>Rates set to double
>"Nah they'll be fine."
See you in the subsequent "Well I'm fine with people dying because I won't be won of them" post. >>1456700 is already there.
Anonymous No.1456703 [Report] >>1456705
>>1456701
Cry harder faggot. Your masters folded like cards. Better luck next time.
Anonymous No.1456704 [Report] >>1456706 >>1456707 >>1456800
>>1456702
Please explain why my rates are going to double.
Anonymous No.1456705 [Report]
>>1456703
that's cute but you're still a self hating shill with a humiliating fake job
Anonymous No.1456706 [Report] >>1456708
>>1456704
and there it is, right on schedule.

The irony is it probably will also spike your health insurance because demand will go up, just not as much.
Anonymous No.1456707 [Report]
>>1456704
Well, I'd need a bunch of info to verify your statement.
But if your rates are doubling you probably make more money than the APTC requirements for the pre-COVID marketplace pricing. Additionally, the insurance companies need to ensure YOY, so they're likely raising prices.
Anonymous No.1456708 [Report] >>1456709 >>1456712
>>1456706
>your rates will double!
>How?
>uhhhhh
That's what I though. Fuck off. I love how the left keeps screaming about how bad the country is going to get and how Trump is going to make everything worse for me, when he consistently makes everything better. I got what I voted for. You can cope and seethe to death.
Anonymous No.1456709 [Report]
>>1456708
you can't vote
Anonymous No.1456710 [Report]
>>1456695
Because they have to give billions to their corporate slush tunds
Anonymous No.1456712 [Report] >>1456715
>>1456708
>Well I'm fine with people dying because I won't be one of them
Like clockwork.

Also hows your grocery bill?
Anonymous No.1456713 [Report] >>1456714
>>1456702
>What is we pay insurance companies to lower the rates
>Give them gorillions and they still don't lower rate
>They raise rates when you stop giving them money though
Welcome to the Democrat zone
Anonymous No.1456714 [Report] >>1456716
>>1456713
Objective reality is rates will be doubling for millions of Americans because Republicans hate the poor. Literally forcing others worse off than them to make sacrifices in their place.
Anonymous No.1456715 [Report] >>1456717 >>1456718
>>1456712
>whataboutisms to something else when he gets called out for making up bullshit
Let me know when you figure out how my insurance rates are going to double. I'll wait.
Anonymous No.1456716 [Report]
>>1456714
Nah, if they hated the poor they'd kill medicaid.
ACA is a higher bracket.
Anonymous No.1456717 [Report] >>1456719 >>1456722
>>1456715
Never said your insurance was going to double. Just for millions of Americans. Doesn't have to include you, but most people also aren't psychopaths who don't care when millions of people have to suffer and die when it could be entirely preventable.
Anonymous No.1456718 [Report]
>>1456715
OK, what state do you live in and what's your expected yearly income?
Anonymous No.1456719 [Report] >>1456720 >>1456727
>>1456717
>Never said your insurance was going to double. Just for millions of Americans
The median rate increases to premium is expected to be 18% not 100%
Anonymous No.1456720 [Report] >>1456721 >>1456723 >>1456724
>>1456719
>https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/health-insurance-premium-spikes-imminent-as-tax-credit-enhancements-set-to-expire
Might wanna double check that figure, shill.
Anonymous No.1456721 [Report] >>1456725 >>1456726
>>1456720
>allowing people with incomes between 100 and 150 percent of the poverty level (roughly $16,000 to $23,000 for an individual) to pay $0 in premiums for “benchmark” silver-level plans
False and ignored. People making 16 to 23k will not be eligible for ACA tax credits because they're eligible for Medicaid.
140% to 400% FPL is eligible for APTCs.
Anonymous No.1456722 [Report] >>1456728
>>1456717
Okay cool. So it's not going to double and millions of Americans won't be getting free shit anymore. Win win.
Anonymous No.1456723 [Report] >>1456726
>>1456720
https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/federal-poverty-level-fpl/
Anonymous No.1456724 [Report] >>1456726
>>1456720
Weird how they have a totally different figure than these people
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/how-much-and-why-aca-marketplace-premiums-are-going-up-in-2026
Anonymous No.1456725 [Report] >>1456726 >>1456730
>>1456721
this makes sense
Anonymous No.1456726 [Report]
>>1456724
>>1456723
>>1456725
>>1456721
Oh yeah here it goes right here.
The aca tax credits were for people making over $100k yearly
https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/inflation-reduction-act-health-insurance-subsidies-what-is-their-impact-and-what-would-happen-if-they-expire/
Anonymous No.1456727 [Report] >>1456731
>>1456719
My health insurance went from $125 a month to $389. They’re going up way more than 100%
Anonymous No.1456728 [Report] >>1456733
>>1456722
>And we're back to "I don't care, it doesn't affect ME"
Anonymous No.1456730 [Report] >>1456752
>>1456725
Indeed. As there's various requirements to be eligible for ACA and PTCs.
1. You must not be offered other insurance through your employer or it must not meet the ACA standards or it must be deemed unaffordable.
2. You must not be eligible for Medicaid
3. You must be at 100-138% of the FPL up to 400%
So, there's a few demographics that will be impacted.
Self-employer people including landlords and investors.
And people who somehow don't have a full time job but make too much money to be eligible for Medicaid.
Anonymous No.1456731 [Report] >>1456751 >>1456760
>>1456727
Post your state, plan name and income please.
Anonymous No.1456733 [Report] >>1456734 >>1456741
>>1456728
Damn right. Enjoy the rest of this term, buddy.
Anonymous No.1456734 [Report] >>1456735
>>1456733
well, no, you were proven wrong and pivoted to being childish
Anonymous No.1456735 [Report] >>1456737
>>1456734
>well, no, you were proven wrong
So we're back to my rates are going to double?
Anonymous No.1456737 [Report] >>1456738
>>1456735
Gonna need some proof of this claim.
Anonymous No.1456738 [Report]
>>1456737
Me too.
Anonymous No.1456739 [Report]
>>1456688 (OP)
They gave me a month off AND I get paid for it, god I hope they do it again come January. Please!
Anonymous No.1456740 [Report] >>1456742
>>1456696
Actual Americans work without health insurance. Foreigners on the other hand get the rope.
Anonymous No.1456741 [Report] >>1456743
>>1456733
Very cool. Now face the wall.
Anonymous No.1456742 [Report]
>>1456740
>Actual Americans work without health insurance
>Us REAL Americans work until we get SICK and DIE from PREVENTABLE CAUSES because WE CAN'T AFFORD TREATMENT
Anonymous No.1456743 [Report] >>1456744 >>1456745
>>1456741
I'd like to see you try and make me, leftist.
Anonymous No.1456744 [Report] >>1456746
>>1456743
The people you're screwing over outnumber you.
Anonymous No.1456745 [Report] >>1456746
>>1456743
>Ha, stupid leftists, you're so weak you could never threaten me
>OH MY GOD THEY SHOT CHARLIE OMG TERRORISTS, TERRORISTS, SAVE ME DONALD TRUMP
I love it when you retards simultaneously pretend your invincible and then freak the fuck out and demand martial law the moment anyone on the left actually does the shit you mock them as never being able to do
Anonymous No.1456746 [Report] >>1456747
>>1456744
And my bullets outnumber them.

>>1456745
Congratulations, you shot and killed an unarmed speaker at a college campus. You animals are great at taking out people not carrying, like that faggot Reinoehl stalking and murdering a Trump supporter, yet you lost two of your own and a third wounded trying to kill a scared 17 year old that was running away.

And you think you'll fair better against someone armed all the time waiting for the opportunity to cut a leftist into little tiny pieces? Good luck, you'll need it.
Anonymous No.1456747 [Report] >>1456749 >>1456753
>>1456746
>I'm so cool and badass
Yeah I'm sure. Meanwhile reality is Trump gets voted out by the masses he screwed over, you get so pissed you try to shoot up a local mosque or supermarket, then either police or ironically another armed citizen blows your head off.
Anonymous No.1456749 [Report] >>1456754
>>1456747
>Ha, we shot Charlie Kirk from a rooftop when he wasn't expecting it. We're so badass
>OH MY GOD DANIEL PERRY SHOT A GUY WHO WAS JUST POINTING AN AK-47 AT HIM HE CAN'T DO THAT
I love it when you retards simultaneously pretend your invincible and then freak the fuck out and demand martial law the moment anyone on the right actually does the shit you mock them as never being able to do
Anonymous No.1456750 [Report]
lel Democrats folded like a lawn chair.
I can't wait until the extreme wing of the Democrat party stats trying to snipe them.
Anonymous No.1456751 [Report] >>1456760
>>1456731
I made it up
Anonymous No.1456752 [Report]
>>1456730
Good rundown thanks
Anonymous No.1456753 [Report]
>>1456747
>Trump gets voted out by the masses he screwed over,
Voted out in what election lmao, what are you talking about, foreigner
Anonymous No.1456754 [Report] >>1456755 >>1456765
>>1456749
The irony is had any of the protestors shot Perry in response they would've been 100% legally justified. But hey, you decided to legitimize political violence by pardoning him. Between that and 1/6 pardons any pretense of civility is gone, except you are outnumbered both in the field and in the voting booth.
Anonymous No.1456755 [Report] >>1456759
>>1456754
>But hey, you decided to legitimize political violence by pardoning him
He was pardoned following a unanimous recommendation from the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, which conducted an extensive review of the case, including trial testimony, police reports, and court records
Anonymous No.1456759 [Report]
>>1456755
lmao no he wasn't. Abbott literally told them to give him permission to pardon, and he also is the one who appoints the leadership of the board. They didn't review shit.
Anonymous No.1456760 [Report]
>>1456731
>>1456751
This blatant samefaggotry must end.
Anonymous No.1456765 [Report]
>>1456754
>The irony is had any of the protestors shot Perry in response they would've been 100% legally justified.
But that would require them having a pair of balls. Again, anytime you go up against a right-winger that can defend himself you people die. You're only good at taking out unarmed, unsuspecting humans.
Anonymous No.1456770 [Report] >>1456776
>>1456688 (OP)
>Democrats are furious after folding like a lawn chair
You mean just 8 of them?
Anonymous No.1456771 [Report] >>1456772
>shill melting down this hard after dems cave
lmao, even their handlers don't think its good for republicunts
Anonymous No.1456772 [Report]
>>1456771
And what did Republicans lose to get dems to shut down the shut down?
Bill Bailey won't you please come and let me buy a 2nd home No.1456773 [Report]
Chucky caved for me, because I wanted to remortgage my house and I was laid off for my government job
Anonymous No.1456775 [Report] >>1456777 >>1456778 >>1456788 >>1456794
It's almost annual enrollment season for most, so we'll all see what this is going to do to our rates. Well, not the underpaid foreign shills. They'll have to go ask their client liason to explain what I mean.
Anonymous No.1456776 [Report]
>>1456770
8 new targets for Democrat extremists to snipe.
Anonymous No.1456777 [Report]
>>1456775
Mine went up $30/mo and I have a low deductible premium health care plan. Individual.
Anonymous No.1456778 [Report]
>>1456775
Most online activists just repeat Twitter misinformation. They literally don't care about accuracy as long as they get paid.
Anonymous No.1456788 [Report] >>1456801
>>1456775
Mine tripled. I only make 60k/year
Anonymous No.1456794 [Report] >>1456799
>>1456775
The irony of your post being that you dont understand insurance which suggests youre a shill.
>spoiler: like 94% of insured will be completely unaffected because we're not buying under the ACA
Anonymous No.1456799 [Report]
>>1456794
Assuming your bullshit statistics are true for a moment, why would you want that 6% (millions of people) kicked off health insurance clogging up emergency rooms?
Anonymous No.1456800 [Report]
>>1456704
Because insurance companies aren't going to accept making less money than last year, when all the people who are priced out go uninsured. They're going to raise your rates to make up the slack.
Anonymous No.1456801 [Report]
>>1456788
Zip, Income, and Plan name please.