Thread 28427295

Is this the best car ever made?

>boxer engine, like on Porsche cars
>Toyota reliability
>sub 30k USD brand new
>looks good
>coupe but 4 seater, more practical than Miata in this regard
>great engine, if you Google some of these cars for sale in Japan there will be a lot of options with more than 160k km on the odo


What's stopping you from buying one? Be honest. As for me - I'm poor neet.

>>28427295 (OP)
They’re just kinda boring. And slow. And they depreciate fast.

>>28427295 (OP)
2 irrevocable flaws:
>It's slow
>It's too small for anyone taller than 5'11
It'd be amazing if those flaws didn't exist, but they do so it's a mediocre car on par with the Miata

That being said, if your commute consists entirely of downhill mountain roads then this may be the greatest car ever made

>>28427303
>mediocre
>Miata

>>28427298
>boring
If you drive like a pussy, any car is boring to drive,

>>28427295 (OP)
They're good cars. The bitter contrarians on this board hate anything they don't personally own.

>>28427310
Did I stutter?

>>28427308
Downhill mountain roads with only left turns, maybe.

1. Ugly
2. Slow
3. Gay

>>28427329
This, everything else is cope get a turbo stang if you are a poorfag

>>28427369
turbo stangs drive like shit tho they blow up as much as brzs too

Buy
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Old
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Cars
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>>28427375
Old cars suck ass I'm not buying your overpriced riced out leaking shitbox I have to wrench all the time been there I'm not a poorfag who needs to penny pinch my time is worth more than that

>>28427379
>Too dumb to avoid a lemon

>>28427295 (OP)
>>Toyota reliability
but its not a toyota engine

>>28427380
>avoid a lemon

Yeah dude just drive a rusty shitbox that throws a timing chain randomly without warning or just doesn't fucking start and if it's not a rusty shitbox it'll become one when you daily it for 3-4 winters

>>28427380
>Thinks trawling through listings isn't a waste of time
Just how unemployed are you lol

>>28427295 (OP)
Second gen got too expensive, i acknowledge that there were alot of improvements made to the chasis but i think toyota should have kept making the first gen as a truely BUDGET sports car with warts and all.

Otherwise god tier car.

>>28427303
then why does Jeremy Clarkson love them?
you can watch his review on yt. he fits fine

>>28427295 (OP)
>Like on Porsche
>Yota reliable.
It's a Subaru tho.

>>boxer engine, like on Porsche cars
Boxer=/=flat 4
>>Toyota reliability
Lol, lmao even
>>sub 30k USD brand new
Poorfag cope
>>looks good
Ehhh first gen hit the mark better having an overall smaller footprint
>>coupe but 4 seater, more practical than Miata in this regard
It's a 4 seater for insurance reasons (again poorfag cope) otherwise they're useless
>>great engine, if you Google some of these cars for sale in Japan there will be a lot of options with more than 160k km on the odo
Barely 200whp and dog shit mpg that requires premium gas and if you google oil starvation, rtv consumption, but """"muh JDM""""
>What's stopping you from buying one? Be honest. As for me - I'm poor neet.
I rented a first gen for a week to see what it was like to live with, they're definitely "fun" to some degree but when you need to triple downshift just to pass Karen's van on the highway while buzzing at 3k+ rpm just to do the speed limit is fucking miserable. Terrible as a DD and not worth the effort to make it a sole weekend warrior, for what its worth and it's capabilities; I would just get a bike

>>28427295 (OP)
Dogshit engine, hard pass from me

God i want one so bad but i only have one parking space and i need my bigger car for work. Fuuuuuuck

>>28427384
>Too dumb to do basic maintenance

>>28427295 (OP)
>Toyota reliability
lmfao gr8 b8

>>28427295 (OP)
I tried so fucking hard to like these cars because the interwebs are constantly orgasming to how amazing they are.

I drove 3 different ones, negotiated with dealers, even hooned the shit out of one from CarMex. I was left super disappointed.

They are SO fucking weak, don't even drift/slide that easily (much easier and more fun in V8 Ameribarges), and have the same fuel costs as a V8 (GayR86 needs Premium, V8s run fine on Regular). Insurance costs as much as a V8 too.

I couldn't find a single reason to buy one unless you are literally an Initial D autist who lives on a mountain pass and LARPS everyday.

I want one, but they are one of the worst vehicles for insurance rates. The other thing is I don't really drive hard enough for a sportscar. I never even push the limits of my poorfag econobox.

>>28427295 (OP)
>>boxer engine, like on Porsche cars
McDonald's struts too kek, cheap ass pieces of shit appeal to the same wrenchlet trannies

>>28428746
>unless you are an initial D autist
Literally me

>>28428746
>unless you are literally an Initial D autist who lives on a mountain pass and LARPS everyday.
and even then a chally wally v6 is faster

should I buy a '23 86 with 10k miles for 26k or a brand new 86 for 32k?

>>28427295 (OP)
>Boxer engine from from the SAME GUY that made Porsche
>Sub 15k used in excellent shape or much less unrestored and running
>Looks EPIC
>Also a coupe but 4 seater, more practical and before any Miata ever made
>Awesome engine, if you Google some of these cars on Facebook Marketplace YOU CAN find one with a lot of options with more than 160km on each engine that went into a car be it the second, third, fourth or fifth or more engine

Sorry bro, my choice is made.

Did I mention most are manual with RWD?

>>28427295 (OP)
>boxer engine, like on Porsche cars
6 cylinder Porsches aren't boxers, but 180 degree V6s and the flat 4 Porsches are either for slow boomers (356) or get roasted for sounding like shit (718)
>Toyota reliability
>great engine
The engine commits sudoku if you turn right too hard
>coupe but 4 seater, more practical than Miata in this regard
Oh cool, back seats for 10 year old amputees, how useful

Has there ever been anything less necessary on a car than the backseat of a scion fr-s
>inb4 bmw turn signals

>>28429178
Back seats in some versions of JDM RX-7 FD

>>28429178
Actually, the back seat is pretty handy. The seats fold down and you can actually fit a pretty respectable amount of stuff in the trunk with the seats down, including a full set of tires. Besides that, it's useful to have a backseat because somebody might end up squeezing back there occasionally. At least you have the option of carry somebody in the back if you ever need to.

>>28429178
>>28429178
SC430

>>28427295 (OP)
>coupe but 4 seater
Unnecessary extra weight, you're never putting non-children in the back of an 86

>>28427295 (OP)
>>Toyota reliability
It's a Subaru through and through.
>>sub 30k USD brand new
lol, it starts at 30k for the base model, and that's not taking into account the typical Toyota dealer markups.

>>28427303
>It's too small for anyone taller than 5'11
That's the Supra. The GR86 isn't exclusive to manlets.

>>28429370
Ah, my bad. Carry on then

>>28429186
This. My coupe has more cargo space than a sedan and can carry 3 or 4 people on the very rare occasion that I really need to. Its honestly the most practical car I've had.

>>28429184
Japanese call them 5 minute seats.

>>28427303
You're retarded.
It can comfortably fit 6'5" people.

>>28429364
literally nobody sells 86/BRZ for 30k base anymore

>>28431032
yeah it's 35-39K here in Californicate

fuck this planet
i cant even afford the cheapest rwd incel car

>>28427295 (OP)
>>sub 30k USD brand new
California land is +35k.

>>28429348
Correct answer. What a fucking retarded rear row

I unironically was saving money for one, but when I found out I cannot get a new one with a nepture blue, it become dishearteningly.

>>28427295 (OP)
They are discontinued And cost 55k euros in my country.

I'd rather buy a 350z half the price

>>28431568
Why the fuck would you ever buy a new one of these when there's like a gorillian slightly used ones for a fraction of the cost?

>>28432011
>slightly used ones
Its new or nothing. And all used one are drifted by kids into the wall one way or another.If I want it new, it would be MINE.

Normal atmosphere slowshit oil starving

>>28432081
No 10k mile one of those is destroyed

>>28427303
I'm 6'3" and I drive one

>>28427369
>auto-only
It's junk. I'd rather be slow and row gears.

>>28432008
Enjoy your car after it's been run through by Jose, Juan, Jamil, Jejado, Jemibible, Jaquababoobo...

>>28434561
just don't buy those? what a stupid comment you fucking retard kek

Is there a slightly bigger version of this car

>>28428937
>handles worse AND is slower in a straight line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roasEbPgzN8

>>28434674
>slower in a straight line
eh, they seem to be even. Even so, that's really not a good thing considering the GR86's basically just a hardtop Miata

>>28427295 (OP)
unfortunately its got subaru reliability.
the old gt86 go for a wierdly high amount still and the gr86 they only sold for a year or so.
also has EPAS which is a bit gay.
i think a mk3 mx5 is a better buy.

>>28434609
hit a little close to home huh

>>28427295 (OP)
Is it just me or are the brakes extremely weak on these?

>>28434999
did I? had no idea but glad to hear

>>28428937
>boyfriend will you please get out of the car so I can do a flyby at 60kph on a straight road

>>28434696
Your v6 brick makes over 300hp, that 86 makes 228. No idea if these cars are auto or manual but the auto in the 86 is fucking bad.

>>28434674
stock v6 challys don't have a limited slip or anti-epa cuckery mods like mine does.
I can maintain over 1 g in a turn on dogshit tires and I've personally bodied old gen 86s up and down the mountain, the new one can't be that much better.

>>28434663
yes
v6 challys/cum arrow
the Challenger has full double bones, the same p/w ratio as a Miata and a 52:48 weight distribution (also same as a Miata). It gets over 30 mpg on the highway and seats 5.

>>28435930
sheeeeiiit nigga least I got friends where your flyby at?

>>28435933
the v6 Challenger exclusively features the ZF8 hp45 (hp50 on AWDs). The Dodge version of this gearbox is upgraded with extra clutch plates and fluid capacity compared to the BMW spec ones cars like the Supra get.
my previous two cars were manual and frankly the only thing I miss is being able to drop the clutch and skid, and you can actually modify a ZF8 to do that, albeit it's a very expensive and involved mod that requires soldering shit to the internal mechatronics.

>>28435383
I just test drove one today and I felt the same way about the brakes
the one thing about the car that surprised me the most was how smooth the ride was. for cheaper sports car the ride was fantastic

>>28427295 (OP)
Should've had the 300 hp FA20/24 turbo from the JDM WRX S4 and STI brakes.
Maybe then it'd finally beat the S15 Spec-R from 1999.

>>28436786
What the monkey chimpin' 'bout?

>>28435933
Yeah, that's what I was saying. The gr86 is known for having a somewhat disappointing engine so any "sports" car with similar acceleration figures but worse handling is a complete joke.

>>28435926
>woke up at 8am to reply
kek stay mad

>>28427295 (OP)
>toyota reliability
>Subaru engine

Thank God the transmission is an Aisin, but enjoy your oil starved boxer. The 86/BRZ is neither an 86 or an WRX just boring and clunky

>>28435961
So the V6 brick loses in a straight line with one of the best auto troons on the market to an 86 that's either using a god awful auto or a rubbery manual that even the best drivers will shift slower than a ZF8.

>>28437327
idk man in my personal experience the v6 chally is faster all around. much, much longer legs, no torque dip, massive fucking powerband, and no-lift shifting.
straight off the lot every car is a bit of a dog including the 86, a chally is no exception but with mopars some very simple and cheap mods can produce good results.

>ugly
>slow
>gay
>wheel gap
>mcdolands on all 4

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_XZjDQIXZPk

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>>28437600
These cars don't use Toyota engines Anon.

>>28437705
Then what is the best Toyota sportscar?

Personally I wouldn't consider the Yaris and Corolla GRs "sports cars" and both the 86 and Supra use other companies engines. So it boils down to do you want a BMW powered Toyota or a Subaru powered one I suppose.

>>28427303
I'm 5'9 and i fit in it just fine
>>28437600
That's a diesel engine running off of its own oil kek, it's not toyota

>>28437018
did you? cause I didn't post at 8 also yea most working men are up already by 8am on a Monday dono how this is shocking to you

>>28437727
The GR Yaris was made for rally homologation, it is literally a car for motorsport

>>28427295 (OP)
>>coupe but 4 seater, more practical than Miata in this regard
It should be a pure 2-seater. 2+2 is retarded.

The Miata's problem is only being available as a convertible. Only boomers like convertibles.

>>28427295 (OP)
I would happily sacrifice some sportiness for more practicality. I4, slightly higher, more useful interior. At that point it wouldn't only be more viable as a daily, it would also work as a sort of Group 4 Rally tribute car.

>>28427298
>they depreciate fast.
Do they though? Used oned are barely cheaper than new

DK-san said the GR86 is the best platform for dorifuto today alongside with the Supra.

>>28438620
Donkey Kong?

>>28438620
DK also likes CHALLY

>>28438652
He said his favorite engine is 2JZ so the original BRZ engine goes in the trash I suppose

>>28438645
Justin Timberlake of Japan

>>28438662
But he's bigger, faster and stronger too?

>>28438678
Yes, everything is better in Japan, unironically.

funny to me how bunch of japs managed to live rent free inside some americans head that he posts in every single gr86 thread