Where is the all-American car, Americans? Where the entire supply chain and design chain involved Billy Bob in Detroit?

There's at least a bespoke supercar that relies purely on American parts, American wiring, American ECUs, American rubber, American bushings, etc right?

https://youtu.be/3ZTGwcHQfLY

i don't think there are cars in Japan that are 100% jap, because they have to use chinese steel. so the materials, will most certainly have to come from somewhere else, even if they're refined and molded in the country in question.

>>28448501 (OP)
ask chatgpt, or go back to >>>/pol/

>>28448501 (OP)
>the entire supply chain and design chain involved Billy Bob in Detroit

The car would be a POS covered in Cheetos smudges with Fent baggies dropped in random nooks and and crannies in the interior. Smell like cigarettes and rancid BO from the assembler. It wouldn't last the first drive without some shit breaking. Body panels misaligned and no QC because they gotta get home to drink/Xbox. And it'll cost a hunnid grand.

God Bless Amerka

>>28448723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYUZOlclSo
all that to still reach higher mileage than anything japanese or german.

>>28448501 (OP)
cadillac is the most american brand remaining
pick up trucks are mostly american made

>>28448501 (OP)
Is it 50 minutes of preachy shit while never addressing the core issue?

>>28449741
the TLDR; is that basically every part of the thing was difficult to do in the US because they just don't produce most of the shit.

Just the 1 and 1/2" bolt was $0.06 from a Chinese supplier, but cost ~$0.355 per bolt from a US supplier.

The chainmail they're using they could only find 1 US supplier who can only produce 2000 units per month for them, so they tried to source it from an Indian supplier (to avoid using china) and when they finally get the Indian chainmail in, it was dropshipped from China despite being told it was made in India.

The screw knob on top they were told was made in the US, was actually made in Costa Rica.

They found a company that would do the injection molding in the US, but they had to send the die designs to china to do the injection mold die tooling before sending the dies back to the US for production, they ended up having to find a local tool/die expert to help them design a die in the US, send it to a US tooling company to produce the dies, and then do the injection molding in the US.

They also talk with a company that does a new type of 3D metal printing that allows them to produce injection mold dies with high enough surface finish quality so it's not like sandpaper finish (like most 3D printed metal).

Basically every step of the process is going to various US companies and them telling him they don't do this in the US, they outsource to china and just assemble it here (if even that).

>>28448501 (OP)
Acura NSX

Being concerned about products made in other countries is only valid for two reasons:
1. Job protection/creation - you don't want to lose your working class factory workers to other countries
2. National security - you don't want to become too reliant on manufacturing in other countries in case of war
Neither of these is meant to actually grow the economy -- actually protectionism does the opposite... However they have some merit to them.

>>28448508
>jap cars must use chinesium
Kek fuckin' weeblets are always getting shafted

>>28448508
You DO realize japan is a massive steel producer...right?

The majority of cars manufactured in japan use Japanese produced steel.

I'm not saying NO cars made in japan use Chinese steel, but it's far from the norm.

>>28448501 (OP)
Most pickups, including the Japanese flagged ones, are assembled in the USA. Tacomas aren't officially distributed in most of Asia.

>>28449934
Tacomas are built in Mexico.

>>28448809
>Pull infotainment unit from ATS dash to replace dead touchscreen
>Big sticker on back of module "ASSEMBLED IN MALAYSIA"

>>28449856
Holy redditspeak

>>28449856
china produces far more steel, and chinese steel is cheaper. even japanese video game consoles like the playstation are now made in China and not Japan because its cheaper despite japan being a large producer of electronics, too.

why would they use more expensive domestic steel when china sells the shit for probably half of what the japs do, leading to a cheaper car and higher profit margins.

>>28448501 (OP)
Oshkosh JLTV

>>28448501 (OP)
His product honestly looks shit.

>>28448501 (OP)
I've never watched that guy before. That vid is playing on my right.
He might be wank but I'm finding that out right now.

>>28450110
russian here, working in the "manufacturing shit" sector
we used to use japanese steel because, while more expensive, it was better than chinese steel, and japanese were much easier to work with than chinks
now we use can't use japanese steel, so we use russian steel because, while it's worse and on paper more expensive than chinese steel, russians are much easier to work with than chinks too
chinks are always out to swindle you, like slant-eyed turbojews they are, not a single good experience with the chinks, something's always wrong
russians who know you have no choice would probably love to swindle you too, but they at least know they can be brought to court if they change the terms mid-flight, so they just front-load you with a stupid price, lower it a bit when you threaten to buy chinkshit instead, and then go business as usual, stability achieved

>>28450322
That's ok russiabro, some of the most hyped jdm wheels ever, Desmond Regamasters, were made from old soviet tanks.

>>28449767
>outsource assembly to third world
>do the product engineering domestically
>fast forward 20 years
>engineering is also outsourced to third world
>(some) assembly is done domestically so that they can legally slap "MADE IN USA" sticker
>wtf why are new generations so poor? are they stupid?
amazing
I love free market capitalism™®

>>28450541
holy fuck. never heard of these wheels before and looked them up, sets of four of these are going for 14k, i can only assume due to rarity of a particular size. new ones are around 600-800 bucks

>>28451240
All boomers should be killed. Gen X as well.

>>28448809
>Italian brake company
>made in Mexico
Kek

>>28451240
In the 1950s and 60s Japan was also regarded as the "cheap shit" place to make things. And then people panicked in the 80s that Japanese companies were going to overtake everything, as evidenced by the entire Cyberpunk Genre which relied very heavily on the Golden Tigers imagery.

If you want an example of this from a singe industry, Seiko basically murdered the mechanical watch industry on a genocidal scale by inventing the Quartz watch movement which is cheaper, more accurate, and much more easily produced than any other mechanical watch movement. So countless European and American watch makers just completely folded until your only option was
>Spend super high amounts on Rolex/Omegas/other luxury watches
>Timex (just another quartz watch manufacturer after firing like 30,000 of its employees)
>purely digital watches (usually still Japanese)

All those "Gucci" or "Kate Spade" watches you'll find at any store? All those kitchen clocks all over the US? Almost all of them are just quartz watches, usually on the same designs Seiko pioneered. Grandfather clock manufacturing basically came to a halt because quartz was undeniably cheaper and still more-accurate. And it was felt to be more convenient to replace a battery every few years than it was to wind up daily.

So now we have chinese cars and even planes, and they're the Japan of the 80s. The difference is 80s Japan stopped itself after a major economic stagnation crisis from which it never recovered--will China too?

The biggest irony is that in the late 1800s and early 1900s the cheap place for semi-skilled labor and manufacturing.... was America

page 11 bump

>>28448501 (OP)
fuck this goddamn child abusing asshole.
there are so many fucking things more complex made in the USA.
eley hoses for example
this guy is a whining faggot hitting up small time mom and pop shops who dont want to waste their time with his small order vanity projects

>>28455222
>eley hoses
How the fuck is a hose MORE complex than his product?

A hose just requires you to find someone to manufacture the hose itself, and then a manufacturer for the fittings.

That's two components.

>>28449767
>Just the 1 and 1/2" bolt was $0.06 from a Chinese supplier, but cost ~$0.355 per bolt from a US supplier.
sounds jewish, bolts are produced 100% from automation in the USA and China both. the machines that make them shouldn't cost more to run in the USA than China. i'm guessing the chink one was some subpart grade of pot metal that they stamped grade 8 on, or the US company is run by greedy kikes

>>28452425
Technically they didn't Invent the quartz movement, they just mass produced it. As the world was mass modernizing and time became the most important factor, seiko massively profited from the watches that were dead-on accurate and cheaper. Like most of the rise of Japan, it was about timing

>>28455229
In the video he also says he found a supplier that CLAIMED they were made in the US at $0.20 per bolt, but they couldn't confirm the manufacturing origin, whereas the $0.355 bolts he could confirm were manufactured in Massachusetts

>>28455227
hoses are more than 2 components
and they make fittings, valves, and other watering products as well.
Including their packaging. Which is fantastic and over the top. I dont know how much of that comes from China
Eley was just an example. there are many other products more complex made in the USA by large companies
This fuck wanted small backwater shops to take on his vanity project. they are not gonna waste months testing and setting up new dies to make a week worth of product, hence why they wall want to make at minimum of 20,000 units.

>>28448501 (OP)
Tesla is the only car maker that makes 90% of the parts, powertrain-batteries, etc in the US.

>>28449835
>he isnt concerned with the shitty turdworlder part exploding/disassembling itself at the worst possible moment due to nonexistant quality control
My condolences

>>28448501 (OP)
>American ECUs
I believe that this is completely impossible at the moment. If you have enough money you could probably source American steel and have billet components produced and whatnot. Producing anything like an ECU without using Chink or SEA electronic components just isn't a thing though.

>>28451253
They're strongly associated with 90s Hondas and smaller wheels are in high demand among those wanting a period correct look.

>>28451253
They're strongly associated with 90s Hondas and smaller wheels are in high demand among those wanting a period correct look.
New wheels, the last time I checked, are all in larger sizes meant for modern vehicles. A missed opportunity imo.

>>28456402
It's possible, just not at scale.

If you wanted to make a one-off product you likely could at great expense.

>>28452425
>The difference is 80s Japan stopped itself after a major economic stagnation crisis from which it never recovered--will China too?
Does the US have the ability to force China into a new Plaza Accords? Probably not.