What is Australia's car culture like

It's big, but politicians started treating car culture as their "tough on crime" boogeyman 20 years ago so from what I hear it's cucked as shit. Average speed cameras, basically any mod is illegal and cops actually pull you over for it, you technically need a certified engineer's review to legally change wheels or your exhaust. This is all from word of mouth on here, not a 'strayan.

It mirrors american car culture in a lot of ways. wide open space means drag racing is a lot more popular there than in europe or anywhere in asia. with drag racing comes burnouts and people making loud noises for the sake of making loud noises.

Australian car culture is loud, proud, and very audacious. they worship muh V8s, though, probably not to the same extent as americans, because they also got exposed to lots of cheap performance straight sixes.

best of all, no displacement tax. so you get european style cars, without any of the european fuckery that makes them painful to live with outside of warranty. imagine if every german sports sedan could be optioned with a pushrod V8 instead of a Borg Cube engine that they typically have. aussies took european platforms and made them better. gave them proper engines. made them "just werk".

>>28448574 (OP)
Depends and who and where. Offroad, pavement princesses, classic muscle, classic cruisers, euro, broccoliheads in crackle tune golfs, bogans in 2000s models holdens/fords, burnout, fwd jap, rwd jap.

Like other anon says it mirrors America in a lot of ways plus close Japanese influence and all the uniquely local culture.

>>28448574 (OP)
its completely cucked, low speed limits and you get fined for going even 6km over the speed limit, Anti hoon laws in every state with NSW and VIC being the worst. If a cop thinks your car LOOKS modified you need to spend 100s of dolars getting and engineer to sayu its not, every tiem

>>28448574 (OP)
all the hoons sold their cars and got into 4wding because theres no cops on random bush road number 123123

>>28448739
Yeah but then HWP adapted and started defecting mud tyres and lift kits, setting up sting operations on driving beaches and police mounted on dirt bikes riding the trails.

>>28448887
The prison island truly lives up to its name.

>>28448737
>>28448887
>>28448892
what the fuck happened to australia

>>28448893
Weren't they always like this? Having Bong heritage and all

>>28448893
The culture of Australia isn't that of the convict, but that of the warden.

>>28448574 (OP)
Vast majority of society is trundling around in an SUV, twin cab ute or cheap hatchback like everyone else

Rally, amateur racing, drift and drags are still a thing and doing their stuff. Custom and show cars not so much anymore and sort of moved more into the hp-dyno queen, resto-mod route instead. Every man sports coupe and sedans are still out there but have been dwindling in numbers over the last 20 years or so since Ford-GM fucked off, Jap imports sort of filled a niche there as well for many years until they got very expensive, european sedans, hatches are sort of bodged into it by default of being available.
Classic cars, exotics and higher end sports cars, grand touring cars are still out there, bring a lawn chair and sun hat
4WD community is kind of huge, touring, cross country, rock climbing and getting bogged on the beach until you overheat your transmission crowd are bigger than they've ever been. Vast amounts of bolt-up stuff is everywhere for anything you could ever want to make them heavier and slower while getting bogged, breaking uni or CV joints, drowning it in a river crossing and going home on a tow truck.

>>28448583
Don't know what you're talking about. We have unrestricted access to JDM so that makes up a lot of car culture.

Can anyone recommend a body shop in NW sydney to install some body kit bits?

>>28448893
We're ruled by a cabal of fun police cat lady karens

>>28448962
that doesn't change anything. just means someone is doing burnouts in a clapped out skyline instead of a charger.

>>28448972
Northern Beaches Smash Repairs in Brookvale, bit east though, they do good work.
You could try Pymble Smash repairs or Hornsby Prestige

>>28448962
There's still a significant portion of the scene that is all about commodores and falcons. It really depends on what you're doing, if you go to a drag meet or burnout competition at the nats or whatever you'll see some jap stuff (especially old mazda rotaries or old dattos or corollas with v8 swaps) but it is overwhelmingly V8 commodores and falcons with an increasing contingent of turbo nissan commodores and barra falcons. On the other hand if you go to a weekend track day or drift event you're going to see a lot more jdm stuff (and au falcons).

Every day it becomes more like Mad Max where people have some wild builds but the police will come kill you over it

>>28448984
I guess I shoulda said outer NW

>>28448583
>best of all, no displacement tax
not if you're in NT. they're the only state that taxes by displacement AND cylinder count. it's strange as fuck because for a long time they were formerly home to a stretch of highway with no speed limits for a while. And their highways are 130 limits while everywhere else is 110.

>>28449040
Car Beauty Salon, Lane Cove. Be prepared for a hefty bill.

>>28448574 (OP)
>What is Australia's car culture like

>>28449055
bro that's even further east

>>28448577
I thought that depends mostly on the state. It's wild how much they vary.

>>28448962
>We have unrestricted access to JDM
I thought they were cracking down on imports?

>>28449114
All new cars are imported here.

>>28448899
That's the same culture probably everywhere

>>28449117
Lol what
GT-R ban is global news

>>28448737
I thought QLD was the worst. Other places like France can be bad too, on google maps I've seen speed cameras on little country roads over there but their highways are around 120 or 130 km/h.

>>28448893
Basically in the 70's we had this larrikan culture, just males sort of partying hard and making a lot of noise on the weekend.
This offended a certain type of people called wowsers, I don't know if you have this in America but having a v8 starting getting associated with being a bogan.
I'd say leading up to 2010 something like the "won't you think on the children hysteria" became common in the media so to buy votes politicians introduced tough of crime legislation and "more police". Boomers especially women absolutely ate that shit up, yet its those normies that are harassed the most for going 5km over the limit now.

Look up elections in 2010 and you see their main policies, also this exact time a lot of roads had their speed limit reduced by a lot.

Another weird thing is the tall poppy culture which the UK has as well.

>>28449044
I was looking to live up there, real funny how a place with of the most excess land in their world can have properties still in the hundreds on thousands of $. Don't worry though, theres no corruption in Australia.

Most people didn't want to remove the unrestricted limits. I happen to know a freeway in Australia that despite having some of the most speed camreas on a road still regularly has fatal accidents on it.

>>28448649
A lot of car clubs with 60's and 70's cars but the old days of getting a $1000 car from the 70's back on the road easily are gone. Funny thing is Australia imported a heap of Skylines before America could and we had limited drifting here but now America has overtaken us greatly.

Car meetups are different now, people know if the do a big rev someone will record them and the police will eventually see it.

Take this as a warning Americans, I've seen news of an awful lot of speed cameras going to you.

>>28449291
>I thought QLD was the worst
It is pretty bad everywhere. NSW is leading the way on installing assloads of point-to-point average speed cameras everywhere. Miserable revenue raising bullshit.

>>28448574 (OP)
talks v8's, buys 6 cylinder generally speaking

nah its alright, ive got a bunch of gay old 60s pommy cars, i dont drive like a wanker, i dont drive after midnight, i crooze, i have a disdain for burnouts or drifting or faggotry like that, i enjoy maintaining my cars, i listen to neo psychedelic music, lifes easy and everyone else makes it hard on themselves

>>28448574 (OP)
methhead P platers in 6 cylinder straight piped commodores and falcons doing burnouts, P platers buying nice JDM cars and absolutely destroying them, pajeets with retarded stickers and spoilers on hyundais and camrys, wog drug dealers in AMGs and M BMWs, and retarded bogan drug addict tradies tailgating in lifted dual cab utes
>>28448887
they're clearly not doing a good job at it because they're still everywhere

>>28449317
do the average speed cameras apply to passenger cars now? when they were initially installed they were only for trucks. recently they started talking about making them apply to private cars but not sure if they've actually done that yet or not.
it was funny flying past everyone between wollongong and sydney - not many people knew that the average cameras there were just fixed speed cameras for non-truck traffic. once past the gantries you could let loose.

>>28448574 (OP)
Its an incredibly mixed bag.

Basing off my personal experiences

>Sandniggers in BMWs
Do not let these "people" near you. Arabs are to Australia what blacks are to America.
>inbred bogans with commodores
Usually dumb as dogshit and can't appreciate anything other than "FARKIN 400 HORSEPOWER DRAGS AT RED LIGHTS MAYTE" and smoking crystal meth.
>fags who put $15,000 of mods into their Japanese car just to stand next to it at the meet and never drive the thing when you invite them to.
Why do these people exist? Can't understand the purpose of sinking so much money into genuine performance parts just to SAY you own them and never use them.
>unashamed initial D weebs who listen to eurobeat while racing on mountain passes at 2am.
Ironically these are probably the best enthusiasts since they genuinely care about performance and will actually hoon their 20k+ cars
>turbofags in TUFF 4X4 FOR REAL MEN (most offroad they have done is a gravel path)
No hate on offroad enthusiasts but majority of them are posturing masculinity without doing anything thats actually masculine like hitting the gym, hunting, camping, etc. They just buy maxtrax to bolt on the side of the car and stand around in the maccas carpark and mutually masturbate.

All in all its a very diverse mix, but overwhelmingly gay. The good circles are an absolute treasure to find but fuck me its difficult trying to find people who actually appreciate automotive enthusiasm as a whole and actually want to drive their car and not just upload pics to instagram.

That Dash Cam Owners Australia tells me that driving quality in Australia is atrocious, at least compared to the UK. Our dashcam compilation channels are tame in comparison.

>>28450057
Those videos have gone from UK-adjacent to US-adjacent over Covid. Wild to watch now.

I live in a semi rural area and everyone here drives a gay shiny ute that they put massive light bars on and drive around with high beams on at all times.
They always put snorkels and shit on them despite not offroading them.

>>28450057
I watch dash cams from the US, UK and aus. They're all as bad as each other

>>28448574 (OP)
It's terrible.

Car faggots here are either:
Bogans who like falcons and commodores
Bogans who transitioned from the above to Ford Raptors
Faggots who drive VAG cars with crackle tunes
Weebs. The worst of all.
4WD faggots who think a Landcruiser is actually worth several hundred thousand dolars or think nothing is better than a Patrol on massive mud tyres.

It's pretty fucking grim over here.

>>28453042
wish i took a photo of some old burger luxobarge that got pulled over by highway patrol in the middle of royal national park around midnight. No idea if he was pulled over for being cheeky, or just because the cop thought no normal person would drive such a car in such a location at such a time

>>28450118
I see so many snorkels despite there being no snorkle-worthy drivable water crossings within an 8 hour drive.

>>28450118
People who drive through deep water flooded or otherwise, deserve to be left to die
Fuck em, they've displayed that too dumb to live and not worth some poor emergency services dudes risking their lives because its always some worthless boomer or middle aged Karen that just decides, nah fuck it

>>28448577
>it's cucked as shit.
How did australia go from being awesome to being a total shithole so fast? Was it all the asians they imported that tend towards being commies?

>>28453218
Successive governments have been making it their business to stomp on our balls for some time now. I know this doesn't really address the cause of the problem but I say it more in regard to the "so fast" part.

>>28453218
>>28453572
the country is one big ponzi scheme for those at the tippy top

>>28448577
Total bullshit

people say cops will attack you for even looking like you have a modified car but in my experience in nsw thats not the case. ive driven modifed cars for about a decade now and never had a problem, driving past cops, next to cops, being pulled over at an RBT, getting the cars registered etc. and theyve all been too loud or too low , with gauges obstructing the windscreen, blow off valves etc, they just do their breath test and send me on my way or let me drive past no issue
maybe im just lucky but i think altough those laws are technically in place, most cops wont do anything about it unless you are driving like a dickhead in the first place

>>28453218
Tighter laws and regulations = more avenues to generate revenue through fines.
Government uses the guise of "safety" but really it's all about finding more ways to fine/tax people for everyday activities.

>>28454214
Depends where about you live as well. In some rural towns/cities the police won't look twice at a modified car, unless it's someone who stands out and the police know cause trouble regularly.
In Sydney it comes down to location. Western suburbs is defect city. Eastern suburbs/North shore/northern beaches they don't care at all.

>>28454214
i remember getting breath tested and one of the guys was pointing to my headlights because i had installed selective yellow bulbs, another just took a look at it and went "eeyup, either white or selective yellow" and everyone went about their way

>>28454214
A lot of the reasons people get pulled over is that they've done enough dumb shit that they have some kind of profile built up over time for prior shenanigans. Its not actually your car!
So the automatic system in every patrol car sees your number plate, cop wants to know what you are and it'll tell them if you've got a history and current parole, arrest records, defects, DUI, speeding and so on. They'll pull you over all the time and its really not something you can ever shake, or worse yet if you've bought a car from someone with that record, best to get a new set of plates or you'll inherit some of their bullshit for a time until the system figures out you're nobody in particular.
I've driven modified cars since about 2000, mostly northern Sydney for about 15 years which is pretty heavily policed, but never got pinged for anything as I don't have a record for nothing
Closest I got was a mistaken identity one night, but that got cleared quickly as they looked at the car and figured out the S13 wasn't the Commo they were looking for and on my way, packing shit because I'd bodged a direct air vent bov as a temp fix, the car was practically straight through exhaust, massive IC up front, big tubbo, induction roar, too dark tint, probably too low and it was prone to shooting flames out during gear shifts.
Only other times I've been pulled over was cops going 'oh, thats an extremely rare JDM car' and we end up talking cars for about half an hour

Out here in the country, no one gives a fuck what you're driving around really, as long as its not going sideways or doing 200km/h

>>28454391
>I've driven modified cars since about 2000, mostly northern Sydney for about 15 years which is pretty heavily policed, but never got pinged for anything as I don't have a record for nothing
lol >>28454223
>Eastern suburbs/North shore/northern beaches they don't care at all.

>>28453053
>>28450118
Snorkels help if you're driving on convoys on dusty roads to keep your intake out of the dust if you're following cunts, at least that's what all the people that have them and never take them in water say.

>>28454800
Yeah I've been in north sydney the last 6 years and can say police presence is small here compared to west sydney and they don't care much about modified cars. at one point my daily commute crossed over with a hwp patrol route in mosman and drove past him nearly every day for a couple months. never pulled me up for my loud and low skyline. they care more about getting rich soccer mums in their 150k SUVs for drinking one too many glass of wine at lunch.

>>28454815
They probably need to have a prefilter or a cyclone cleaner to work like that.

>luxury tax on 3 series
Australia shouldn't exist. It could have saved the ocean by being oceanic garbage patch

>>28448737
>ow speed limits and you get fined for going even 6km over the speed limit,
It's called a speed LIMIT for a reason

>>28453218
It was ever thus

Depends on what club you belong to. There are some really great, genuine blokes who will go out of their way to help you with repairs and mods. My local Alfa club are fantastic. A weekend cruise every so often, good food and coffee and everyone having a laugh. It's great for the mental health.

bunch of losers paying top dollar for old dogshit commodores and then the rest are 4WDs with canopies and do nothing with it or bare tray and they have to strap everything down

>>28458241
It's a country of criminals, don't expect them to understand asinine things like "laws".

>>28458241
>>28458276
So then when they drop the limit by another 20km/h while the road is exactly the same as it was before, what's that about? You just going to keep slowing down until you might as well walk there just because some fuckwit said you have to? For what? The law being the law doesn't make it not bullshit mate. Don't be so surprised when people are mad about it.

>>28458294
So many fuckwits on the road don't know how to drive, 80km/h on roads is outright dangerous these days.
Those same roads in the US are 57km/h (35mph)

Freeways on the other hand should be 130km/h or faster off-peak hours and 80km/h at peak times, they already have the overhead digital signage ready to do this.

>>28458305
No it isn't. I do it all the time. If those retards don't know how to drive is 60 going to be much safer? Maybe they are the problem, not the speed.

the cars and people can be cool
the government hate everything that can be considered fun and want everyone driving disposable chinkmobiles, with cameras and microphones monitoring at all times for badwrongthink
I hate it. If only I was interested in gay sex and drugs, then this country would be well suited to my interests. Guns and cars? this country hates those, and fucking loves regulations and taxes. tempted to move to darkest africa so I can have some fun for a few weeks before being machete'd to death. Same end result, just gets done quicker and much cheaper than here.

>>28458305
I'd say compared to America that Australia has higher limits on twisty country roads which can often be 62 mph or 100 km/h but that guy is talking about literal freeways with sections that used to be 110 km/h or 70 mph that have been reduced to 80 km/h or 50 mph, these places are literally revenue raisers as I see police on waze in these areas all the time. I know a freeway that had a 10 km section reduced to 80. You can follow the rules all you want but they still find a way to fuck with you.

Compared to other countries I did notice Germany has a fair few roads that go between 100 to 120 km/h on fairly straight roads. In Texas and other states its fairly common to see freeways with 55 mph limits but also about as common to see 75 mph too.

My hunch is that speedlimits are not really scientifically implemented and were more of a general guideline in the early days but now we are stuck with limits implemented from around the 60's and 70's because basically old people will be offended because we've have those limits for so long.

>>28459702
Yep, 100-110 straights taken down to 80, but also 60 zones down to 40 in a lot of places as well, with fixed cameras everywhere just to really fuck it up. Infuriating.
t. that cunt

>>28459715
If you live in a nice area theres no speed cameras.

>>28459702
>>28459715
bells line of rd used to be 100, it got dropped to 80 but that pissed locals off so they brought it back up to 100. then after some "consultation" whatever that involved, it was brought back down to 80, with some 60 zones for some of the more crowded/trafficked areas. driving it at 100 feels a lot better

>>28459726
so there's cameras everywhere in AUS then?

>>28453218
Australia has always been cucked. The culture was one of servility from the prison colony beginnings. For a while in the 20th century it was acceptable, but never as free as America.

>>28459827
I'm in Adelaide and there aren't really that many. A few fixed cameras at major intersections and other big locations. Adelaide is pretty backwards though, so maybe there are more out east.

>>28448574 (OP)
You’ll never know

>>28459702
>55 mph
Probably a remnant from the Oil Crisis era, when this limit has been considered good for the fuel economy. Not an American so might be wrong.

King Georges Rd has like 5 or 6 red-light speed cameras at every light in a row. Shits ridiculous.

>>28449325
>>28453042
>>>/r*ddit/

>>28449291
>Americans, I've seen news of an awful lot of speed cameras
Cities got chewed out in court numerous times for fucking with light timing to get more revenue so traffic cameras have been banned for a decade+ in any of the states worth visiting

>>28448574 (OP)
There are three countries in the world that have what can be considered an actual car culture. The US, Australia and Japan.
Lots of Australians will cry about whatever law or regulation they want to cry about but that doesn't change anything, the country is still full of enthusiasts who do what they want and view those laws and regulations as a minor headache to just ignore or work around.

Defect? Throw your stock parts back on in an afternoon, get it cleared, then put good parts back on. Or know a good mechanic who you can just send photos of the 'legal setup' to and they'll clear it. Or just get an engineers cert.
Yearly inspections? 80% of mechanics will just check your tire condition and whether head/tails/indicators work, costs $50 and takes 10 minutes.
Police targeting enthusiasts? Most guys in modded cars have never been hassled by police or received a defect. People will not get targeted by police if they are driving like an idiot (every lifted 4wd nigger who weaves through traffic).

>whats it like
shit, pic rel; we made the shittest mitsi's.

>>28461574
oh how the mighty had fallen

Went down to shell harbour the other day and every second driveway had a mitsubishi lancer in it. Whats up with that?

>>28461628
God's chariot

>>28461628
cheap

>>28448574 (OP)
Toyota hiluxes en landcruisers and old 90s ford stationwagons

>>28448574 (OP)
Dead ever since GM killed Holden. Speaking of Holden why didn't sue Square(-Enix) over Griever from FF8? I guess nobody gives a damn about Final Insanity down under.

>>28459837
This, especially since voting has been MANDATORY since 1924. Try this in the US and get January 6'd.

>>28461409
Only 3 countries? Hmmm lets check on the rest of the world

>Canada
Same as America

>Latinoamerica
Same as America but restrained by poverty

>Italy
Ferrari worship

>Germany
None, because car culture is "Holocaust denial" and punishable by death.

>>28450386
>I watch dash cams from the US, UK and aus. They're all as bad as each other
You must be joking, UK ones are incredibly tame compared to Australia.
Recent weekly UK upload - 10 minutes of nothingburgers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzpNPCR4xtI
Recent weekly Aus upload - ~30 minutes, many more collisions, people spinning out, or crackhead behaviour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEuug5PDt3A
In the UK link (after the opening advert which is from the US), there's a minor bump with no damage shown at the start and that's all there is. The rest are just near misses at best. In fact, watching UK compilations has long become boring due to how many clips are just the cammer overreacting, and the uploader just wants any content to maintain his sub count.

>>28461574
Naw man they are underrated

>>28463415
>channel of 90k subs vs channel of over 500k subs
Gee, I wonder why the Aussie one has better content.
There are "slower" Aussie channels too. See Scott's Car Cams (he's a pedantic fuckwit).

>>28463415
Insurance in the UK is mind bogglingly expensive while insurance in Australia is pretty cheap.

>>28463441
Just drive un-insured, that's what I do

>>28463441
>Insurance in the UK is mind bogglingly expensive
It's just you, my latest quote is £270 a year.

>>28463436
>Gee, I wonder why the Aussie one has better content.
You're putting the cart before the horse here. The Australian channel has more subs because Australians are genuinely worse drivers.

>>28463445
The Aussie channel has more subs because it's run better.
At least look at some statics.
https://datahub.roadsafety.gov.au/progress-reporting/international-comparisons
UK deaths per 100k is 2.6 and Australia is 4.5 but if you remove the abos in NT it's a lot lower. In my state (Vic) it's only slightly higher than UK.
But even that isn't really a great metric. I'd say that Australians probably drive more on average and own older cars (less safe in a crash).

I've done a lot of driving in the UK and in Australia and in general people's driving skills are comparable.

there's not much in the way of culture
rather australia tends to take in the worst from overseas car culture like takeovers for example
also fuck the police, look at your little computer

>>28448574 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/@DashCamOwnersAustralia
driving on the wrong side of the road has really done a number on them

>>28465199
Take overs barely happen here. Can't remember the last time I heard someone mention the northern skids.
You're also forgetting the massive off-roading culture we have.

>talk shit
>get skid
https://youtu.be/PVf0YOn03vw?si=hv1F7TZf4-QkZCZP&t=40

>>28463638
>but if you remove the abos in NT it's a lot lower.
Oh yeah lemme just remove all the minorities from our stats too mate.
The Australian channel has more subs because Australian "driving" is much more shite. Deal with it.

>>28448574 (OP)
The word hoon literally comes from Australia, that should tell you all you need to know

>>28466164
You're putting the cart before the horse here.
The Aussie channel has more subs because it's older, is run better, and it's really the only dash cam channel that Australians watch.
They also distill it a lot more. The UK channel you posted puts out 3 to 4 videos a week where as the Australian channel does 1 a week.

>>28461574
Fuck off cunt the mangnah and 380 where based AWD and factory supercharger options

>>28453218
>go from being awesome to being a total shithole so fast?
because you were sold a lie created by the government through the tourism board of australia to trick americans into visiting/investing/buying our shit.

>>28459837
>prison colony
overblown, most people who live here have no connection to any of the original convicts
>>28461676
>MANDATORY
its a $20 fine.

>>28449265
he means we dont make any cars here and we are an island so everything has to be imported
retard

>>28449044
>they're the only state
>northern territory
>state
yeh ok mate.

>>28466930
You know how some people say that speeding tickets are only there to make money instead of keep people safe? Well I bet the reason why the fine for not voting is so low is to make money instead of "keeping democracy safe".

>>28467009
They fine you for not voting. Is there a fuck you option or do you have to vote for the least objectionable pos?
I last voted back in the eighties.

>>28448577
>>28453218
Australia is warm Canada, not British Texas

>>28466932
Yes and I mean there is a model-specific ban on imports.
https://www.drive. com.au/news/godzilla-is-dead-nissan-gt-r-axed-in-australia-from-late-2021/

>>28467059
You just have to show up and get your name marked off. Once you get the ballot you can write whatever you want on it.

>>28467269
>model-specific
The GTR didn't comply with new regs and nissan cbf to upgrade it for <1000 sales a year, alot of low volume cars got shitcanned due to that regulation but its hardly model-specific

also you can still import a 2022-2025 GTR into Australia privately

>>28448574 (OP)
No pajeet and muzzie

>>28467009
No the reason they fine you for not voting is to make sure that low information morons control elections.

>>28468865
>low information morons

Yeah, thats the problem. We should be keeping low-info morons, grifters, and virtue-signalers out of politics, not lock them in.