Hey all,

I am looking into buying a used GTR. It is a 2015 with around 38k miles. Realy clean with some bolt ons, a 2nd stage transmission and some exhaust work...no cats. They are asking $89k for it. is it worth or should I be looking into something more stock for less?

>>28456786 (OP)
You're looking at a 10 year old sports car for $90k asking us if its worth it? Are you really going to finance $90k to have similar performance to a modern $70k sports car?

>>28456816
It's a fair price but you can get more car.

>>28456816
>a modern $70k sports car?
Its STILL faster than the 2025 c8 z06 around the burgerking LMAO

>>28456786 (OP)
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WBS33AY06RFS16887

>>28456786 (OP)
>red
Get a carbon hood and some nismo aero.

>>28456825
OP isn't taking this car to a race track. Statistically fewer than 1% of drivers ever take their car to a race track. Nobody but idiots compare track times on another continent.

>>28456853
The Americope is real

>>28456855
>doesn't own a car
>doesn't live in Germany
>has never been to a track
>America is coping!
Alright durkesh, its getting late in india, its time for you to go to bed.

>>28456825
its not even faster than a camaro around the ring.

>>28456853
>Statistically fewer than 1% of drivers ever take their car to a race track.
Cool, then your AWD GT-r will be more fun to launch at traffic lights than your rwd corvette lol.

>>28456825
3rd reply and these fucking idiots already show up.

>>28456816
He's larping.

>>28456816
seething vettecuck

>>28456873
>>28456933
I don't own a corvette. I don't even care about them. I down even own a sports car yet. I'm not defending any car nor am I even mildly upset about lap times that don't matter to anyone.

What did you smoke this morning?

>>28456939
>I don't own a corvette. I don't even care about them. I down even own a sports car yet.
You think that wasn't obvious?

Not using it for the track. I just want something interesting as most of these post covid cars seem to be built with Temu parts. I am just gonna keep it as a mid life crisis weekend car. Almost 50 so I need to live a little!

My other alternative was a 2022 BMW M5 but I already have a 2019 Charger R/T

>>28456966
Get the GTR my nigga. They're fun.

>>28456822
I was looking at a corvette, but honestly it has no soul. They have a stingray 2LT near me for $84. I like that the GTR has 4 seats

Raped by Porsche.

>>28456954
>You think that wasn't obvious?
If its so obvious why do you think I care about a corvette being slower than another car around a specific race track?

>>28456979
You're a retarded benchracing bus rider that seethes at the GTR. Of course it makes you mad.

>>28456873
Maybe. It will certainly be way easier to launch at max acceleration on street and be a lot more repeatable. But the point of RWD isn't raw performance at this point, it's for soul and fun. Being able to get the rear end swinging in turns, burnouts etc. It's the same as wanting a manual. Modern performance automatics are objectively better for performance but manuals are considered more fun for many people.

AWD automatic for raw performance. RWD manual for fun and soul.

>>28456984
Speaking of:

>>28456994
if you would simply consult the chart...

>>28456966
What you need to do is some test driving. Test a GTR, test a Corvette, test a M5, test a Hellcat etc. then just buy whatever YOU like the most. You aren't in any rush.

>>28456995
if you would simply consult >>28456994
i.e. fuck off, OP is asking for advice, go shit elsewhere, Tamil.

>>28456997
Biggest issue with the M5 is it looks like every other BMW out there. I have a R/T Charger so I would not get into a hellcat. GTR seems to be the only one that has a uniqohd8tue look to it.

>>28457001
someone's a little angwy
post your "modern $70k sports car" that has similar performance to the r35

>>28456786 (OP)
>~$103K new
>10+ years later and 38k miles later
>$89k
"Mawdz" don't add value and I'd see them as a red flag, as much as it does at least appear to be well kept. I don't say anything against buying a GTR but I'd rather find a nice, stock example that's been owned by some boomer instead, and one that isn't being sold for 90% of it's value 10 years and many miles on.

>>28457003
Nah, I only drive old classics anyway. I'm no couch racer either like yourself, so have fun looking for one to start your sad shit flinging I guess.
Also fuck off, or stay on thread's topic.

>>28457017
>I only drive old classics anyway
Translation: You can only afford an ancient clapped shitbox.

>>28457021
Yeah, sure. Enjoy being a poor couch racer.

>>28457036
Back to vettecuckery, I see

>>28457010
Hard to find ones like that though. Seems hard to find ones w/o mods too. I am gonna try and talk them down to 83 and see if they bite. If not I'll just keep looking

>>28457003
lol based

>>28456990
this is why modern BMW M cars are simply the best in the world. at the push of a button you can switch between full RWD and full AWD.

>>28456786 (OP)
>$89k
>front engine
Fucking kek

All in all, what would you expect to pay for this car?

These are the mods:

2nd stage transmission

GotBoost 3” Intakes
Injector Dynamics 1050x Injectors
AMS 90mm Downpipes
GotBoost 90mm Midpipe
Visconti 330lph Fuel Assembly with Pumps
Visconti Flex Fuel Kit
SD Conversion Kit
Visconti Fuel Pressure Monitoring Kit

>>28457097
They have a 2LT stingray like 5 min from me for $84k. Would this be worth it over the GTR? I've seen 2023 3LT stingrays for like $60k so they seem to not hold value.

>>28457002
>Biggest issue with the M5 is it looks like every other BMW out there
That's true, it has rather subued styling and tends to fade into traffic. That's why I like the M4's sniffer. Say what you will about it, the car looks unique, sticks out and grabs attention.

>>28456786 (OP)
You're going to regret that decision OP.
R35s are expensive to maintain.
They break a lot.
And honestly, they're just not very fun to drive.
Yeah sure, they launch out of the hole like a bat out of hell.
And if you're on track, corner exit with R35s cars is crazy good.
But the end of the day it's just a really big really heavy car
The turbo lag on them is kind of annoying.
The transmission is extremely clunky when it's not doing flat out shifting.
Ride quality is almost as bad as my track car.

It's just not a very good car.
It's very efficient in certain aspects but it definitely sucks to soul out of the driving experience.

>>28457143
Another thing to note is that the GTR doesn't have android auto and only got apple car play halfway through 2018 (some 2018's don't have it). Not a huge deal as you can buy aftermarket solutions. Kind of ghetto though.

>>28457155
Would a 2025 stingray 2LT be a better option?

>>28457219
>iconic sports car with crazy performance and unique driving characteristics that will hold its value
>1 out of 1000000000000000 cheap gm shit benchracer special
No, not at all. Get the r35.

>>28457163
Yeah...I saw people swapping out the system and it was like $4k.

>>28457231
Is what >>28457155 says true? If it was not a good car why would people buy them?

>>28457143
Buy a Z06 instead.

>>28457219
I don't like the c8 Corvettes either.
They have a shit ton of nanny aids going off to keep people from spinning a mid-engine car.
The electronic limited slip tuning is also not indicative of a driver's car either.
But again it's designed to keep retards from spinning.

If test drive a 718 and see how you like it.
See if you can pick up a 718 Cayman GTS in that price range.
Those are extremely good cars both on and off track.
They're pretty damn good at autocross as well.
The GT4 are out of your price range, for those are incredible on track.

>>28457236
>why would people buy them?
Barely anyone did.

Porsche and Chevy were selling more Corvettes than 911s and one month than the GTR did in one a year.
In fact GM sold more ZO6s in one year the Nissan sold GTRs in the past 10 years.

>>28457245
Don't tell that to the couch racers, they'll pop a vein.

>>28457236
GTRs have a cult following. It's similar to toyota tax on tacomas etc. For example, the cheapest GTR nationwide on cars.com is a 2009 GTR with 30k miles and it's $55k.

Additionally, since 2008 they've only sold 19,429 GTRs in the US. In that same time frame they've sold 400k Corvettes. So GTRs are rare.

>>28457236
They were/are expensive, production numbers were low, and they went for over MSRP.

But vette's seem to lose their value fast and there are lots of them I mean, I like the style of the car but I can still put 4 people in a GTR.

At the end of that day, is this GTR Worth the $89k? Will it hold its value over say 5 years if I am not killing it? Should I start at 80k and see where it goes?

Or do I just look for something else like that 2022 BMW M5 for 78k

>>28457245
>GTR will increase in value in the futre
nice self own

>>28457257
GTR's will appreciate in 10-15 years, specially if Nissan doesn't make another one.

>>28457257
>Will it hold its value
Yes, generally speaking it will hold value they only sold 19k of them and considering some have been crashed and scrapped it's probably like 15k left in the USA.

Test drive each car. The value holding prospect or it just being cool to own something rare is nice, but you could easily prefer actually driving another car over it.

>>28457262
thanks! I am gonna go check it out and the M5 tomorrow

>>28457267
Don't be shy about taking them both for a nice spin. A combination of city stoplights and highway. The salesman will have a route he prefers but he can suck a cock.

>>28457155
I've owned 3 r35 gtrs and a few other high-end sports cars. The r35 is pretty easy on maintenance. The engine doesn't have anything special like dry sumps or direct injection and shares most of its sensors with vq37 so it's pretty easy to live with as long as you don't put a rod through the block.

The worst things on the r35 is the brakes as the oem rotors are not cheap. In reality you really don't want the oem rotors anyway. They love to crack and warp. The oem rotors don't offer any preformace benefits over a set of aftermart j-slotted rotors and the j-slots are like 1/3 the cost. If you go with aftermarket rotors and pads a brake job is like 3500 plus labor which is about normal for any big brake high-end sports car. It's a lot better compared to ccm rotors on the z06/grandsport/e-ray c7/c8 vette. Those are like 10k for a set and a brake job is 14k in parts.

The maintenance on the dct gr6 for the gtr can be a little pricey because of the fluid cost but any dct is going to have similar run costs. It was like almost 8 years ago I had the nissan change the DCT fluid for me and I want to say that was like 1200 dollars then. Im sure its gone up a since then, but the corvette guys are paying around that price now for the same type of service. From what ive read its pretty common to have a 1500-2000 dollar bill for a transmission fluid change on a c8 vette.

As for transmission failures a lot of them were teething issues and were almost always related to a seal failing. The transmission issues have largely worked themselves out of most gtrs and the ones left are pretty reliable. Even if the transmission does fail the gr6 is one of the cheaper dcts to rebuild. The cost to rebuild one is like 2-3k which in line with just about any computer control automatic.

The c8 corvette is having high failure rates of it's transmission. The problem with it is its sending metal through the system. I haven't seen rebuild costs for it yet but a replacement is 16k+.

>>28457287
This one has a 2nd stage transmission. Not sure if that is good or bad in terms of it being more or less reliable. Wheels have some road rash but the guy said they can touch that up. Tires he says are new. Gonna check it out and if I like the numbers I will have a ppi done and go from there.

I heard vette's also have transmission issues as well. It looks cool but honestly I was never a covette guy. The M5 looks real clean and would essentially replace my car. But I would honestly rather just keep my car than just swap it for a similar car which is why the GTR for me is interesting, especially since it seems to hold its value (and maybe go up if they do not make anymore.)

>>28456786 (OP)
worth - youre going to molest it anyways
if youre questioning a modded car at 90k youre inexperience so prepare for it being a moneypit by getting it inspected by a thirdparty race garage

>>28457299
Stage 2 can mean a lot of different things depending on which of the shops rebuildt it. As Sheps, Jack's and SSP all have different recipes for "stage 2" transmissions. What that does mean is that transmission probably had some type of failure in it's life and the owner wanted something a little stronger than stock. If it was someone going after power they would have upgraded to something like a stage 3 transmission as that's the point all those shops start replacing gears and shafts to hold more than 640whp reliability. The good news is all the seals in the transmission should have been replaced and they should be tougher seals than stock so the transmission should be more reliably than stock. It will probably shift a little firmer than stock too.

>>28457330
Is 90k too much for it though? My thinking was offering 80 and seeing if they move. I know you never get money back on mods or even home improvements.

>>28456857
>doesn't own a car
I don't? 10 year old cars made by reliable manufacturers are great, by the way.

Do NOT pay for someone elses mods. That should only decrease the value of a car, not increase it.

>>28457109
holy shit isn't that silly haha

>>28457378
I personally think 90k is a bit too much for the mods and mileage. Low 80s would be a lot better price point. When I bought my 2015 FBO GTR with 45kish miles in 2022 I paid about 76k for it.

For this car like 79-82k would be a pretty fair price. A great deal would be a mid 70s price.

>>28457390
I think my max on this will be 83k. Gonna ask 80k and see where it goes. I am in no rush and world really prefer unmodded

>>28457414
not that anon but do it, the worst that can happen is they just say no

Still crazy how their value has stayed so high, i think this thing had a sticker of 100-110k back in 2015 and they still want 90k f or one in 2025 with almost 40k miles.
An M6 from 2015 was around the same price and now those are like 30-40k lmao

>>28457427
That is what interests me. If I can get it for say 83k, I will treat it well and not kill it so it should still hold value in a few years

>>28457386
But they say it is a selling point. What do your tell them when you negotiate?

>>28457414
Check out some of the gtr Facebook group like battalion and gtrlife. You see some pretty good deals pop up from time to time on there and it's easier to negotiate a private seller down than a dealer.

>>28457460
that it's not a selling point lmao stock is always sought after

>>28457469
Yeah I was looking there too, pickings are slim and I notice a lot of scammy stuff on fb

>>28457379
I've seen this exact pic posted many times. Who are you trying to impress with a 10 year old beetle?

>>28457460
You tell them no. And that it's an indicator that it was abused, that if anything they detract value.

>>28457564
I see it was sold at an auction and pitched by the dealer. Is there a free way to see how much it auctioned for?

>>28457585
Not sure, but it doesn't really matter, they could have paid $2k for it or $200k. What matters is it's actual market value.

>>28457666
Edmunds has it up now and it lists it as a "great value" being 5k under market. Not sure how trustworthy that is but I am hard pressed to find a comparable GTR for that price point and that low mileage.

Why is this autist shitposting about Nismo 'ring times when OP is looking at a Premium?

You are about 10k miles away from the nikasil I ing on the cylinder walls wear out, then it's an engine out and tear down service.

The amount of people that do not know this and are "in the market" for one is staggering.

>>28457727
Check out previous sales on bring a trailer.

>>28456786 (OP)
$90k for a dried out nissan plastic fantastic car sounds like a lot to me. those things are slower than old camaro's btw

>>28457771
I never heard of a car needing an engine pull at 50k unless you were really doing some stupid shit

>>28457490
I've been posting it since 2023 you clueless newfag

>>28457771
I've been in the gtr community for over 10 years and never heard of this. You can say a lot of things about the vr38 engine but being high maintenance is not one of them. While there isn't a whole lot of high mileage gtrs I know of at least a dozen or so cars with over 100k miles on them and the vr38 is still clicking along strong with no issue. Also while plasma lining was not common in 2007 it is super common in every high preformace car now and even a lot of commuter cars, so with this logic every new preformace car would need an engine at 50k.

>>28457155
>behind of

Going to look at the car this morning. Wish me luck

>>28457973
10 years is a long time to be wrong

>>28458261
Good luck, big guy.

>>28457861
>really doing some stupid shit
I think buying a Datsun qualifies

OP here

Just got back. It has This:

https://www.sheptrans.com/product/sheptrans-stage-2-5-transmission-rebuild-nissan-gt-r-r35/

It was $18k back in 2023 plus all of the other mods listed.

I got the guy down to $85k + tax.

Is this worth it? It is a very solid car. Very good condition, all the lines are straight, no rust. Looks like someone took care of it.

>>28458809
Did you get a pre-purchase inspection?

>>28458288
You're the same queer that pretends every flat 6 in every Porsche is a ticking time bomb, come off it already.

>>28458809
>Is this worth it?
Maybe, did you really love driving it? For what it's worth pic related sold for $66k with 68k miles. So double the mileage.

Also test the M5 before buying anything. That way you can definitively say you like one over the other.

>>28458817
Not yet. I am going to go back on Thursday and have it done by Nissan. But it was real solid....

>>28458824
I liked it. I am not too sure about the M5 just because I hear bad things about them. I am going to get a PPI done Thursday and if it checks out I think I will get it

>>28458847
Cool man. Hope you enjoy it if everything checks out. Still take the time to test the M5, at the very least you'll get to fuck around in an M5 and you'll be able to confirm your decision.

>>28457764
Is that a rhetorical question Anon?

>>28459249
Thanks! I think I am just gonna pass on the M5. It is a nice car but I want something a bit "different"

can't see myself spending $90k on anything less than a c6 zr1

gtr, bmw, to me they might as well be some random kia in comparison. bitch cars

>>28459542
Just not a Chevy guy. Something about this GTR speaks to me.

>>28459583
ick

>>28459542
THAT'S RIGHT BROTHER

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>>28459603
passive aggressive like a woman

>>28459583
I think GTRs are cool too. Post bread on hood when you get it. Have fun, anon.

>>28458845
The real bonus of a PPI is if they find something that needs done, you use their inspection as leverage against the buyer and ask them to lower the price. NEVER allow them to handwave the PPI or suggest they know a guy that'll do the work and make it right. Fuck that shit, get a quote from Nissan on how much the work will cost and ask for that as the discount.

>>28459746
*leverage against the seller

You'd be smoking crack rocks to think $90k for someone's modded gtr is a good idea

>>28459750
Lol why? It is low milage and 2 owners...comps are almost really even close and the car is super clean

OP here...

I was able to get in touch with the original owner. He put about 15k in mods into the car, done by a very reputable person. The second owner put 20k in a 2.5. shep back in 2023. So a total of 35k in mods with a window sticker of 105k...If you just cut the cost of the mods in half you are still at 17k in mods.

For 85k+tax, is this still worth it?

>>28461205
As long as it's given a clean bill of health with the PPI. I personally am wary of modified cars because I think it proves the car was driven hard.

>>28456816

I legit would rather pay 90k for a 10 year old used car because it will be more reliable than any (((modern))) shitbox out there.

>>28461224
Post covid cars seem to use Temu parts

>>28461213
Well, the first owner said he babied it...heated garage kept. The second seemed to use it as a daily driver commuter. Will see if the Nissan will check it out for me tomorrow

>>28461224
It's the sweet spot of convenience tech but not too much. Keyless entry, motorized seats that adjust based on key or profile, bluetooth audio etc but few cars from 2015 have pedestrian detection, stop/start, lane keep assist and other annoying shit that makes the car spaz out.

>>28461205
Have you even driven a GT-R Anon? They're cool and all but they are stiff, not sound proofed that well and feel a bit disconnected. For 105k you could almost get a C8 Z06. Also, mods don't add value.

>>28461235
Not yet. I went to look at it Saturday but it was pouring. I am gonna take it for a drive this week. I drove a "quiet" can when I had a 2024 R/T as a loaner. Could not stand it. I love loud noise. When they guy started it for me I was so happy that it was louder than my stock R/T. I want to not just wake my neighbors up in the morning, I want to wake the street

>>28461233
All I need is the ability to get something that will allow android auto/carplay without tearing out the stock screen

>>28456786 (OP)
buy a golf R for 25k and tune it. But go ahead and fuck up your finances because you want to be nigger rich and beta flex. you already made up your mind.

>>28461923
I had a Volkswagen already. Why would I fuck up my finances? I can sell it in 2 years and break even

>>28456786 (OP)
>v6
Lol

>>28463115
>V8
Lol

>>28463085
>Why would I fuck up my finances? I can sell it in 2 years and break even


lol. this guy is fucking cooked.

>>28456786 (OP)
>v6
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT

>>28456786 (OP)
>Unironically using the term "stage"
Go ahead, I'm sure it runs great.

>>28456990
Ur thinking sequential. Autotragics don't select gears correctly for performance.

>>28457098
So you like having that dead weight hanging on your front axles?

>>28464035
everything in life is a compromise my friend.

>>28463130
Lol he had a seethe

>>28463951
I make like 180k a year and have like 3 retirement accounts and a pension and 529s for my kids. How am I cooked

>>28456786 (OP)
Why wouldn't you just get a corvette? Don't be retarded.

>>28467585
>like

>>28457257
Current owner of R35 (no mods). Have owned plenty of vettes, tons of other performance cars (domestic and germans mostly). Most of what you see here is nerds doing excel sheet comparisons. A quick breakdown:

- Did one big service when I first got R35 (2nd owner). Was about ~$1,500-1,700 from reliable specialty shop to go through and do everything. That was almost 4 years ago, since then just normal maintenance (oil change) and 0 issues with car.

- If you care about it: I've had more comments/random strangers talking to me/etc in any 1-2 random trips out with the car versus years of ownership of anything else I've had (c6-c8 vettes, 70 GTO restomod, 67 Camaro restomod, charger and challenger hellcats, few mustangs, trackhawks, AMG S63 and C63s, RS7, etc). Just driving 20m to work I saw 3 C8's within minutes on the interstate. Haven't ever seen another R35 in the wild yet.

- Will hold it's value, most likely. At least better than the stuff you are comping it with. Vettes are excellent performance:dollar vehicles, but ubiquitous and still have maintenance and performance parts tax.

- Aftermarket options are well vetted, proven, easy, and reliable. $15-20k and you've got a dailyable 9-second street car and one of those weird situations where mods don't (considerably) hurt the car's value--especially if you buy one with them already and aren't ruining it anymore than it was.

After all those cars, paring down/selling off stuff I never drove or didn't like, etc R35 made the cut. I've even been shopping around for some 'luxury' GT or fun cars but realistically most don't get me much over the R35 except some feminine 'need' like native carplay or android auto which I don't care about. They have bluetooth or cable for audio, and aren't sending telemetry 24/7 to some random third party.

Your deal: A bit high on price IMO, but we're talking enthusiast cars not Toyota commuters. I paid about $70k for '12 Black Edition w/35k miles ~4yr ago.

>>28456786 (OP)
You can have that shitbox or a used C8 Z06, don't be a retard

>>28468348
>c8 Z06
why when Xiaomi is faster, more reliable, and a better daily?