>want to buy a NEW car
>every single interior is this monstrosity with horizontal tablets
>i can't drive everyday looking at this shit

>>28461856 (OP)
BMW massacred their interiors. I know technically the G30 and early G20s had iDrive screens that were a bit tablet-looking but compared to that monstrosity they were brilliant.
The tablet across the dash is absolute fucking pony no matter how they do it, it just looks cheap

>>28461856 (OP)
Just, don’t buy a new car? Do you have any particular reason you absolutely need a new car? This isn’t supposed to be bus rider cope, I just don’t see any reason why you’d want to buy a new car. Cars seem to have been perfected in the mid 2010s, just get a lightly used one from then and avoid all this garbage.

you dont need a new car :O

Come home, white man.

>>28461856 (OP)
>>every single interior is this monstrosity with horizontal tablets
Buy 2018-2020 models then? They usually have a smaller display you don't even have to look at if you don't want to. Useful for Android Auto.

>>28461930
what about apple carplay

>>28461873
>BMW massacred their interiors.
It's not just bmw desu, most car manufacturers are doing this trend. Bmw went nuts because it became standard in pretty much all their models
>>28461889
>Do you have any particular reason you absolutely need a new car?
a) because i can
b) because the used market here, especially for bmws, is trash. It's either high mileage cars or extreme-poverty tier models.
If i found anything reasonably priced 2018-20 i would certainly buy one. Looked around, found nothing of value

>>28461924
Too expensive and I can't drive this shit without looking like a bullseye.

>>28461924
So fucking ugly

>>28461993
>muh I ONLY buy SHITTY garbage BECAUSE i CAN!!! Okay?!!!
Kek fucking tastelet

>>28461999
read b) faggot

>>28462001
BMWs were already shit by 2018 kek cry tastelet pussy

>>28461856 (OP)
way i see it, there's 2 options
1) buy an old car. and by "old" i mean however old you need to be able to suppress the gag reflex. hope you know how to wrench.
2) buy a tesla. and when i say "buy" i mean lease, or buy used. at least they know how to do the screen thing well.

>>28462155
teslas suck to drive though

>>28461856 (OP)
I like screens :)

>>28462156
only if you're trying to use them as something they're not.
they aren't sports cars.
they are appliance cars. or semi-luxury, if we're talking about the s/x. and they do those things very well.

>>28462160
I've driven two of them, a dual motor model y and a base 3. They both fucking suck as luxury cars, as well as appliances. They don't even have turn signal stocks. They ride like shit. The interiors are ugly and bleak as fuck. They fucking suck dick
>but ooO muh 0-60 times of the models that no one buys!!!
And if some old guy does buy it they literally never want to fucking run it lol. They're pussyfaggot bullshits LOL

>>28461856 (OP)
Buy a giulia, it's still smoothly integrated below the leather-wrapped dash

>>28462169
rice ahh plastic fiber interior LOL

>>28462172

>>28462173
>noooo plastic fiber isn't rice!!!

>>28462175
Hypocrite Junkie José driving fucking M-M-MONSTER TRUCKS in the parlance of his brown times LOL.

>>28462172
Came like that from the factory. My previous giulia was a 2L and had aluminum trim. It was really aluminum, too, not plastic

>>28462177
>he thinks every car that isn't lowered is a MONSTER TRUCK
KEK fucking ricelet stancelet slowfaglet boyracelet

>>28462181
>factory rice isn't rice okay!!!

>>28462019
Poor Pedro and his 2011 M5

>>28462193
Post not-rice

>>28462200
I'm not hispanic at all, and the F10 M5 Competition was released in 2014 kek cry pussy

>>28462177
Lol I'm in that pic

>>28462202
Which one?

>>28462205
Did it come from the factory with 80,000+ miles too? Fucking poorfag HAHAHAHAHA

>>28462214
Kek you live in flyoversville poorlet

>>28462219
>OREGON IS A FLYOVER STATE
Every damn day with this retard

>>28462225
oregon is fucking flyoverlet hicksville LOL
Why can't you afford proper roads?

>>28462225
>pooregon

>>28462229
>CALIFORNIANS TYPICALLY FLYOVER OREGON TO GET TO ANOTHER PLACE WITH CIVILIZATION
Bitch where you goin'? To linkup with the hobos in Seattle? Get ripped off at Pike's Place Market? You dumb faggot if you're flying over Oregon to get to the rest of the US you must be flying in from overseas.
>>28462230
Are you one of his cartel friends from California?

>>28462214
your house smells like shit

>arguing over who's the least shitty brown commie hellhole

>>28462278
I don't know; just flyin' around

>>28462285
You have never smelled a ferret in your life, Calicuck.

>>28462295
Why would I want to smell a fucking marmot you disgusting flyoverlet pederast
Fucking weasel
Disgusting

>>28462289
t. some southerner who's living in the jungle in a state that's 20%+ black and 15%+ hispanic

>The state is predominantly White (around 76.62%), but also includes significant populations of Hispanic or Latino (18.7%), Asian (4.45%), and multiracial individuals. Oregon's population is not as racially diverse as the nation as a whole according to QualityInfo.org.

>>28462295
bro your house smells like shit and you're a ricer kek

Ok what the fuck either my cats or the gardeners is making a fucking RUCKUS outside and I still need to wipe my ass

>>28462314
CUTE, ricer

>>28462298
A marmot is a rodent and ferrets aren't rodents you dumb nigger, they hunt rodents.

>>28462308
Would the mad mexican like to try that again, this time in English?

>>28462330
lol whole house smells like shit and piss

>>28462335
t. broke beaner never heard of an air purifier

>>28462213
Anything you believe qualifies as not rice on an enclosed street legal vehicle

>>28462339
xyz. needs an air purifier to rid his disgusting hovel of eau de weasel

>>28462344

>>28462349
>on an enclosed street legal vehicle

>>28462344
Also:
>street legal vehicle
Kek fuckin pussy

>>28462353
Yeah I'm also mentioning enclosed, so no atom

>>28462345
Everyone should have an air purifier in their home. Have you never made steaks for the whole family on a cast iron pan when it's 90F+ outside? Do you like airing out your house and letting all that hot air in? Or do you like your steaks GrAY like your cars?

>>28462355

>>28462345
And yet if Jason Cammisa told you to wear it you'd go out and get it, wouldn't you?

>>28462359
Even with the plastic fiber :)

>>28462359
Yeah if I had the money I'd spend millions on a car
Are there cars under 100,000 USD (before tax) that are not riced from the factory? Or is taste a function of money?

>>28461856 (OP)
I
MUST
TOUCH
KNOBS
WHILE
DRIVING

Man I gotta take a rip and get some fuckin soil
It's almost summer
Gotta get 'em in the ground
'Fore the rain fall down
To get paid
To get the girl
In ya rear-wheel drive

Cause the boys round herr
Drinkin' that SOUR beer
Talkin' 'bout girls
Talkin' bout cucks
Runnin' them red dirt roads out
Kickin' up dust

Yeah, the boys round here
Sendin' up a prayer to all them gods
Backwoods smokin'
Don't take NO shit
Wacky tobacky, wacky tobacky, wacky tobacky, spit

>>28461924
But they removed the physical tacho with the 992.2.

>>28462155
>2) buy a tesla. and when i say "buy" i mean lease, or buy used. at least they know how to do the screen thing well.
at this point that's what I have thinking about doing desu.

>>28462169
I dont understand how we moved away from this to OP

>>28462364
new cars are just tacky as shit and gay as fuck

>>28462366
Yes

>>28462376
Alfa still sells the giulia with the same radio. Unfortunately you have to live with a lcd-only instrument cluster but even that is molded into the same shape as the old, better physical gauges

>>28461856 (OP)
BRZGODS win again

>>28462374
if you can charge at home, its easily the best solution. even if you can wrench.
it is EXTREMELY hard to argue with the value prop of a 5yo $25k LR AWD model 3. its a c-segment sedan with ~500ish hp. for 25k. yea, it doesn't corner as well as an m3, and it doesn't have the interior fit and finish of a lexus, but still.

>>28462372
And it's also push button start

>>28462385
Lovely
>>28462387
Yeah and my problem is i don't even find a decent 3 for 25k.
But i live in a building, charging is not super easy, that's why i haven't jumped yet

Look at a fucking corolla, it's like they want to make their drivers suffer. And somehow it's still better than bmw/mercedes new models

>>28462396
>i don't even find a decent 3 for 25k.
how? where?
i can find them by the boat load.
easily sub-20k for pre-2020 base trim, and around 25k starting for post-2020 LR AWD
apparently 2020 was the year of a major update that causes them to be pricier. iirc its when they added the fancy heat pump stuff that first came in the model y?
oh, and model Ys start at slightly below 30k, which again, great value for a c-segment family friendly crossover.

>But i live in a building, charging is not super easy, that's why i haven't jumped yet
yea, no, like i said, its ONLY a good idea if you can charge at home.
having to always charge at charging stations will get super old super fast. not to mention you'll barely be saving money vs fueling an ICE. well, you will be, but significantly less.

>>28462404
>how? where?
europe (spain). I can find them but the mileage is nuts.

>>28462408
>but the mileage is nuts
so?
are you worried the rear main seal might be leaking? or perhaps the clutch might need replacing? or maybe the intake ports are clogged with carbon buildup? or the rod bearings might need replacing? lolololol

its an EV anon. there's nothing to break. just check the battery status when you do the inspection

>>28461856 (OP)
You're not wrong, this shit is hideous

>>28462169
this but unironically. exceptional driver’s cars. Just make sure to buy a 2020+ facelift model

>>28462229
nta but oregon is sick for driving. the cops don’t give a shit and won’t pull you over for speeding.
that is around bend though. I assume the greater portland area is quite different

>>28462438
The Portland Metro doesn't even have policing, it's like fucking Mad Max.

>>28462314
holy SHIT
I GOTTA GO
SOME SQUIRREL'S FUCKING MY TOMATOES

>>28462438
California is better for driving thougheverbeit
>>28462471
The bay area is completely lawless in some cities

>>28461924

Nigger porsche has screens now too. Porsche is just BMW with less horsepower and better steering/suspension.

>>28463076
It's not a fucking huge screen sitting on top of the dash you monkey

>>28463081

How the fuck did you manage to get this retarded? Seriously it shouldn't even be possible.

>>28463081

>literally 5 seconds on google

>>28463092
Kek you can't even use your eyes you stupid nigger. Imagine not appreciating a well integrated screen and equating it to a fucking nasty tombstone sitting on your dash. Fuck outta here with your 03 Crown Vic you beat off over you goddamn luddite.

>>28463094
That's integrated into the dash you stupid coon AHAHAHAHA

COMPARE TO
>>28462400
>>28461856 (OP)

>>28463104
>>28463099

>Literally a wall of screen

Your retardation is fucking remarkable. We should study you before you manage to infect us with whatever nigger brain aids you managed to acquire.

>>28463125
You need this you black gorilla nigger retard

>>28463143

It's not a comprehension issue you Pakistani fuck; I know exactly what the fuck you said and I still think you're retarded. That is a wall of screen. The only reason you're still coping is because Porsche inlaid the screens in the dash. Nevermind that Porsche adds an additional, completely unnecessary screen just for the passenger to get their greasy prints all over the fucking car.

i just dont get why they dont put them where the steering wheel airbag is
>but the airb-
if i die, i die. those particular ones should be optional. however, passenger seat airbags are not optional. anyone in my care, gets the airbags.

i want the screen in the middle and to not rotate.

>>28462404
>apparently 2020 was the year of a major update that causes them to be pricier
There were major updates to 3 until 2024, but it's arguably the same car.
I'm scouting for 2018-2019 LR models because they have a highest chance of having motors from perfomance trim installed, which you can tune to +150HP for $1K

>>28462408
They're pretty affordable in NL. Worth a drive. High mileage is not a problem for them

>>28461856 (OP)
Look at the road instead then

>>28461856 (OP)
BRZ/GR86 if you need practicality
Miata if you want a 2 seater and wind in ur hair
These two are cheap, affordable to own and get good mpg. Also comes in manual.
If money is not a problem get a 911 without screen bloat.

>>28462225
>Illinois not flyover because of Chiraq

Accept your new Lord and savior. The 2025 is exactly the same btw.

>>28464709
Soul. I would love to get one and convert the back into my sleeping quarters and just live in it.

>>28461856 (OP)
>screen scare me so much I lose the ability to drive the car
geriatric homosexual

>>28461856 (OP)
Why do people on this website act like they don't spend 6+ hours per day looking at screens in their house? I understand the hate for touchscreen HVAC, which is bullshit, but having a big screen to look at the map and your music and other stuff is nice. There is literally nothing wrong with how that looks from an aesthetic point of view.

>>28464774
Better question is why they insist on acting like they can afford a vehicle when they've clearly never driven one before

>>28461889
Complaining about screens IS the poorfag cope. He can't afford a new car which is why he chooses an arbitrary random feature to get sour grape syndrome about so he can feel less bad about himself for not buying one. OP could go on BAT and buy a showroom-quality 2010s car for the same price as a brand new car but he won't do that because he is poor

>>28464774
I spend 8-12 hours a day looking at a screen already, give me a break during my commute.

>>28464781
this

I got my pristine white interior 2021 3 for $19k fwiw

>>28462349
I remember the other pic with a similar meal on your BMW’s engine bay and it looked tasty!

>>28462385
Looks nice! This actually isn’t bad at all.

>>28461856 (OP)
>i can't drive everyday looking at this shit
Why not? The software is actually well-organized and responsive, and you still have all the information you need in both the gauge cluster and the HUD.

>>28463745
It's not cope to have eyeballs and a brain and recognize you're a FUCKING POORFAG crying about screens full stop when there are objective examples of them being used tastefully. Not every nucar is a Tesla with a giant ipad glued to the dash you salty bitch. The only cars I'll own with screens integrate them to minimize glare, maximize their lifespan and none of them force you to use the screen to control HVAC or adjust volume. Go blow yourself Ted Kaczynski you crybaby little cunt.

>>28462229
I remember going to school in Oregon and living with my mom. I think I liked the women there more too. Yeah I remember it was in a nice woodland countryside type of town. Lot's of trees and very quiet. I remember Crater Lake yeah the little I guess gift shop place had a hypothetical thing where if the dormant volcano blew up it'd engulf most of Oregon and parts of northern California and Nevada. Yeah but they're also more cucked than California so fuck that place I never wanna go back.

>>28465013

Lexus does use them well, so does Bentley. Porsche does not. Your "White Man's Chariot" is just as bad as Mercedes, Tesla, and the rest with a wall of screen leading the design instead of being subject to it. I mean fuck, at least GM curves their display around the driver, Porsche doesn't even do that.

>>28465202
Stop responding already you stupid luddite nigger, you lost and this endless game of backtracking is beyond gay. Enjoy your ancient screenlet shitbox you autistic cunt.

>>28465202
imo only tesla does screens well. in their rush to imitate tesla, every mfg did the screen thing, but they failed to understand 2 things

a) the screen thing worked for tesla because it played to its main strength, software engineering, and allowed them to sidestep things they were weak on, interior design and quality. tesla couldn't design the same sort of interior that bmw could, much less build it to the same level of quality. but it could make a far better screen only UI than bmw could. so, minimalism + giant screen it is, and later for beautiful design, switchgear, etc.

b) what made tesla so successful wasn't the giant screen in the middle, but having an overall outstanding UX. also investor speculation, sure, but mostly the UX. and the UX isn't the giant screen, but the fact that the giant screen works well, its fast and responsive, its well thought out, etc.. and ofc also the fact that teslas are EVs, and if you can charge at home its extremely convenient. also the fact that tesla's extreme minimalism actually makes for a very relaxing driving experience.

also, imo luxury cars, true ones, RRs, bentleys, ferarris and the like, should stay away from screens altogether, as they will age HORRIBLY. if they can be expected to age at all, which is highly doubtful. chances are, 20 years from now, all the screens in current cars will be dead, with no way to replace them. which is fine if the car in question is a corolla, you just turn it into a cube and send it to india to further poison their environment, yay. but that shit is not fine for a RR or a fefe or a bentley or a bugatti. those cars are meant to be collectibles, to endure.

Here's the thing I don't get. If it's a car you REALLY wanted, how could you possibly hate a screen so much that you didn't get the car just because of that? I love my 4Runner but I hate the wiper stalk. It's the most complicated feature rich stalk I've ever seen and every time I need to use it it's annoying. But I adapt. I live with it. I understand there's no such thing as perfect and I accept the flaws while appreciating the strengths. That's the key to happiness. If you only ever focus on the bad stuff then you'll never be happy because you'll always find something bad to focus on. You should be spending your time focusing on good things instead. You can't ignore the bad things and you shouldn't try to but you acknowledge them and accept them and look beyond them.

>>28462349
I can tell by whats on the table that life has made you anhedonic but not only that you're a fake phony ass tryhard.

Would you like me to critique your food again?

>>28465237
Buttons in the cabin usually work for the entire life of the car. Screens -will- fade out in brightness and have chances of developing dead spots or damage or just stop working.
Touchscreen controls also take away being able to reliably use them without taking your eyes off the road.
On top of that, one thing goes wrong with a screen the whole unit needs to be replaced. If a button did break you could replace it yourself with something else or take it apart and repair it. Well, these days they are modules on boards with the other buttons in a section, but you still could.

You know all these 80s/90s cars with original radios that still work and dashboard digi-odometers and stuff that still work?
LCDs can't last 40 years like that, not being powered on for 5+ hours a week especially in a hot/cold car environment.

So every car made with this shit is going to become unusable trash sooner than any car without. And on top of that we're starting to get shit like screen units serial and vin tied to the PCM, needs dealer work and stupid dealer prices to replace.
What are you gonna do in 15 years if you cant find a working one for your kids used car and if you do the dealer wants to charge 3 grand in 2040 dollars to pull out an old ass interface flasher?

>>28465309
You don't know what you're talking about. Toyota made cars in 1991 with screens and they still work fine today.

>>28465309
>oh no i can't buy this car i love because what if i need to give it to my kid in 20 years and the screen doesn't work

>>28465249
I can tell by your hilarious diction and utterly shite mate punctuation that you're a flyoverlet eboniclet LOL

>>28465309
parts becoming NLA and/or parts being DRMed is a real problem for sure

however, there is another viewpoint re: screens here. given that screens are 1 single component that is also essential to the function of modern cars, it is very likely that there will be 3rd party replacements made for all of them. its a single very important item, which is often shared across many models of a mfg at a given time. i think it makes it an extremely large target for 3rd parties to make replacements.

also, given that the component is essential, i think its basically guaranteed that mfgs will eventually be forced to allow its replacement. something along the lines of
>my screen broke, the part is NLA, and the mfg has locked it with DRM so i can't replace it with 3rd party, so my car is bricked for no reason
is a very obvious lawsuit that will 100% happen at some point. and i very seriously doubt any court will side with the mfg. and even if they do, what about courts in other countries, which are not the home turf of the relevant mfg? they will certainly not side with them.

anyway, tldr, im reservedly optimistic in the long run.

>>28465309
>LCDs can't last 40 years like that
I don't know about 40, but my parents have an LCD tv that's like 20+ y/o and still just werks - no degradation in quality, no failures, no problems whatsoever.
If anything, what I'd be concerned about the most is not the screen itself or the hardware behind it, but rather the software. It will be completely outdated 10 years after the car is made, especially when it comes to communicating with anything external and I doubt any car maker will want to take on the burden of long-term software support for their vehicles.

>>28465468
>If anything, what I'd be concerned about the most is not the screen itself or the hardware behind it
This is 100% correct. The reason so much technology with screens turns into useless garbage so quickly has almost nothing to do with the screens themselves, it's always related to the underlying hardware being cheap dogshit.

>>28461856 (OP)
Lada Niva.

You just need to wrestle one from Putins cold dead hands.

>>28465214

>seriously bro, you totally lost
>plz stop responding

>>28465356
Look at thus fucking faggot calling me black cus im not apostropheing my words and splitting sentences with commas and other dumb gay shit like bitch ass get your wifes pegging dildo out your ass and grow a brain.

>>28465654
bruh fr fr on gods family sus bus cap li shaking my head not gonna lie im shaking my head n im not gonna lie

Notice how he didn't deny the pegging dildo, which is apparently still in his ass.

The BMW keys and dinner poster, everybody.

Dont worry bro I screenshotted the whole thing. Really hit a nerve there hmm?