Thread 28469321

>1250 horsepower
>0-60mph in under 2 seconds
>8.X second quarter mile time
>16.5 inch brake rotors
>All stock right out the factory as a dailyable street car
How the hell did GM do it?

>>28469321 (OP)
>How did one of the wealthiest automotive companies with one of the best funded R&D departments make a good car

>>28469321 (OP)
Don't forget
>233 mph top speed
Yeah, it's insane

>>28469330
VAG and Toyota have much higher budgets.

VAG's response is a stripped out track car that sucks ass to drive on the road, can't do 233 in any configuration, and cun't run 8s.

Toyota's response is a 3 cylinder trannyverse mounted """rallly""" car that blows up if you rally it and has the stopping distance of an 80s GM truck.

>>28469402
GM invests more than Toyota. GM also has actual engineers in charge of Corvette and Cadillac which explains why they have been so good recently.
>Response
Those cars were out before the Zora and they are for different things.

>>28469522
where the fuck is VAG's R&D even going? they spend R&D money like they're racing in formula one. GM is supposedly behind Tesla in EV technology, they're racing in WEC, and they're investing in a Formula One program for Cadillac. all while making a budget hypercar, and STILL spending less than BMW and Merc, let alone VAG.

the bean counters at GM must be doing their actual job and cutting wastein R&D while still yielding results.

>>28469321 (OP)
LS is magic and has trivialized power.

>>28469321 (OP)
yawn
call me back when they make it look like this, exactly

>>28469557
It's because GM doesn't spend any R&D money on the cars people actually buy.

>>28469578
people don't buy trucks? GM doesn't spend R&D on trucks?

Cars being fast from factory is lame. Congrats you spent some money.

>>28469321 (OP)
It's the 1999 Hayabusa of the car world.
If you're a rich bitch get one now because the car world will probably never have anything like it (for the price) again.

>>28469557
>>28469522
>>28469402
Because VAG is bigger in size and moves more cars. Also thanks to the EU government they are trying to electrify all the different brands an models including their trucks. This costs $$$.

>>28469659
GM is doing the same. them selling more cars shouldn't mean the R&D is higher. they use the same platform across most cars.
VW>Seat>Skoda>Entry level Audi>Entry level Porsche
High end Audi>Bentley

with the Exception of the 911, and Lamborghini, most VAG platforms are shared to cut cost like GM. and GM is also fully electrifying Cadillac, and Chevy. the Corvette C8 was built to be an EV first and foremost and just happens to have an ICE engine. they'll make an all EV variant down the line. cadillac already has a fleet of full EV models.

they will pass all these BEV platforms down to chevy.

>>28469669
>and Lamborghini
r8 and baby lambos share the platform
only avenzador is still unique and it's going away sometime soon, look at how most of their concepts are based off r8/gallardo/huracan platform and not aventador
urus is an audi too
911 and cayman/boxster are identical from seat back forward, and the drivetrain and rear suspension are also the same but flipped 180 degrees

>still no faster burgerking laptime than 7:08
Lol

>>28469962
>he admits the C7 ZR1 did 7:05 in one image but conveniently leaves it out of this one

>>28469962
p rly did give u brain damage lmaooo

>>28469980
that wasn't street legal, the nismo is street legal

>>28469983
poo has yet to reply to pic related lol

>>28470272
>the nismo is street legal
lmao

>>28469572
With a 7.5L NA V12 too.

$150k+ hyvrid car that can only sell in Trumps EPA america

>>28469402
The yaris has great brakes wtf

>>28470382
>Trannybeanpedia
Lol
https://youtu.be/G9poQEp_9bQ?si=qPbcVhmn_MHyLKrR

>>28470272
>>28470507
>Muh GTR
Bitch, literally who cares. It's 2025 and they're discontinued. They're nonexistent on the streets and nobody drives them. Meanwhile Corvettes are everywhere and people actually drive them.

>>28469321 (OP)
>>0-60mph in under 2 seconds
I'm calling BS on this one, made up number just like with teslas

>>28469569
LT7 isn’t even related to the SBC family, retard.

>>28469321 (OP)
> angry triangular car
my 6 year old self would find this design sick

>>28470645
Burgers time a roll-out so it's literally a fake number, like 5-60mph and act like it's not a lie.

>>28469402
How much of this post was just made up in typical shitposting fashion

>>28470645
>>28470719
at this level it's kind of splitting hairs though
1.9 seconds with a 1ft rollout or 2.1 seconds from a standstill. oh no 2.1 seconds that's so slow what a piece of shit car

>>28470641
AND they just keep getting faster.

>>28470744
it's not about splitting hairs, it's about marketing lies
>our car does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds*
*it's actually 6-60
*not even 62 a.k.a. 100km/h like rest of the world uses
*only in ideal atmospherical conditions
*only on prepped drag strip surface
meanwhile, in real world it's more like 2.3, just like plaid, but that doesn't sound as cool as 1.99

>>28470641
Corvettes are rarer than exotics outside North America. They're irrelevant.

>>28470638
Does it have this exhaust? Otherwise that is a different car to the one that supposedly did 7:05 so it doesn't count lol

>>28470641
it's 2025 and GM fangirls are still getting triggered lol

>>28471326
did any of the "production" N attacks do 7:08? otherwise, there's no proof they're the same car as nissan's prototype.

>>28470641
not their fault they can't help that the GTR could never beat the C6, let alone the C7.

>>28471334
it is faster

>>28470272
everyone knows p doesn't reply to female hysterics lool

>>28471484
>Can't into math
Lol

>>28471660
Poo is a female hysteric lol

>>28471476
The production N-Attacks have the same parts, no production C7 has this exhaust >>28471326

>>28471802
>The production N-Attacks have the same parts,
proof? show it going around the nurburgring and getting the same time.

>>28469522
how is stellantis still in business?

>>28471800
>Can't into any source of a GTR doing a quoted lap faster than 7:04
>bean people are not a reliable source
Lol

>>28469402
the new GT2 RS is going to be faster than the ZR1X despite having far less horsepower though?

>>28471802
The extra restricted exhaust to bring the db's down? True.

>>28469321 (OP)
IT'S OFF
FUCK YOU
FUCK GM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

>>28469321 (OP)
Raped by Mercedes C180

>>28470670
Neither is the LS

>>28471923
>proof?
Pistonheads

>>28471935
>GTR faster than 7:04
here >>28471334
friendly reminder the 7:04 time is literally fake lol

>>28472143
prove it's just for bringing gb down lol
also prove it actually did 7:05 on the regular nordschleife layout lol

>>28469346
Imagine the top speed I'd Chevy uses more optimal gear ratios

>>28471635
Doesn't this say more about the driver(s) than anything?

>>28470272
>that wasn't street legal,
Yes it was you muppet
>>28471326
The 'Ring has noise restrictions. Despite this the C7 ZR1 is street legal. Changes done to the car to meet track regs don't invalidate a lap just because you say so.

>>28472736
>Yes it was you muppet
no it wasn't, if it doesn't meet noise restrictions it isn't street legal, same shit happened to the c8 z06, the european version has a different exhaust and rear bumper, because the US one doesn't meet EU restrictions

fucking retard

>Zora
Inb4 Nintendo sues Chevy.

>>28472943
More like the opposite you zoomer.

>>28472967
Fuck ya mudda, bish.

>>28472277
>Pistonheads
no pistonheads source of a production N attack getting 7:08.
>here
bean people aren't a reliable source.
>the 7:04 time is literally fake
C6 SP time is not fake, and actually quoted by racing officials, unlike any faster GTR time.

>>28472886
yet it has plates>>28470638 lol

>>28473245
>No pistonheads source
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/ph-in-japan-blog-diary-archive/28870
>bean people aren't a reliable source.
do your own math then, you have the source on the image here >>28471334
GT3 GTR is faster on both track lengths
>C6 SP time is not fake
C6 SP is slower than a GT3 GTR, and segmented laptimes are valid, unless you want to accept Mero 7:04 is not.
>>28473249
that doesn't have this exhaust >>28471326, retard

>Poo has yet to reply to Xiaomi posting
lol
lmao

>>28473743
Pooh?

>>28473756
Poor?

>>28473707
>https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/ph-in-japan-blog-diary-archive/28870
don't see anything in here showing a production GTR getting 7:08. how do we know its as capable as the prototype?
>do your own math then
why would i need to make up my own lap time when i actually have one that exist? 7:04 by the Corvette SP was timed and actually happened. no faster GTR ever did.
>GT3 GTR is faster on both track lengths
Where is the quoted time by racing officials indicating it actually did both track lengths as the proofs?
>C6 SP is slower than a GT3 GTR
so post a GT3 GTR quoted as going faster than 7:04 somewhere on the internet. bean people are not a reliable source.
>you want to accept Mero 7:04 is not.
okay, it just went faster with 7:05 instead. makes no difference to me.
>that doesn't have this exhaust
and this>>28470507 never did 7:08.

>>28474060
>how do we know its as capable as the prototype?
because Nismo engineers told Pistonheads it was? Do you have any evidence of the contrary?
>no faster GTR ever did.
yes it did, see >>28471334
>Where is the quoted time by racing officials indicating it actually did both track lengths as the proofs?
Where is the video that shows Jim Mero did a 7:05 lol
>so post a GT3 GTR quoted as going faster than 7:04 somewhere on the internet.
so post a video of a C7 ZR1 going faster than 7:08 on production trim lol
>it just went faster with 7:05 instead
proofs?
>and this>>28470507 never did 7:08.
neither did this >>28470638 lap the ring in 7:05 lol

>>28474098
>because Nissan's marketing team told me
Jim Mero said the ZR1 is even more capable than 7:05.
>Do you have any evidence of the contrary?
do you have any evidence that this>>28470638 wouldn't be just as fast without the exhaust?
>yes it did, see
no it didn't, bean people are not a reliable source.
>Where is the video that shows Jim Mero did a 7:05 lol
Don't need one, since you already admitted it was faster here>>28473743 lol and Jim Mero's time can actually be found quoted on the internet.
>so post a video of a C7 ZR1 going faster than 7:08 on production trim lol
Don't need to, cause you already admitted its faster regardless.
>proofs?
A non bean people source AKA jim mero, which you've already accepted and the internet has already quoted.
>neither did this
Cool, so we're in agreement that neither the C7 ZR1 that lapped the ring was production or the GTR. meanwhile, you already agreed that the C7 ZR1 is faster, and you still have no argument for the C6 SP even if you were to deny it.

GG no RE.

>>28469581
>>28469578
the hummer is a completely different car than the rest of the trucks.
the formula for GM trucks has not changed in almost 20 years, and most of the parts in them are shared with something else. the biggest shift came when people stopped buying short cabs and went to crew cabs.
the eboost brake system is an off the shelf part.
the 10 speed was shared with ford.
theyve made small block V8s for 60 years, and share them with the SUVs.
the transfer case is an off the shelf part.
the SUVs share almost everything with the trucks, and have a higher profit margin.
GM loved this platform so much, they shrunk it down and made it into the new colorado.
at some point, you just keep cranking out what works, and issue small updates to the platform to make it more livable/keep up with Ford.

where GM does better than ford, is there meme nonsense like the Hummer EV ends up actually trickling down into cars people buy. the lessons learned from the hummer directly apply to the base equinox EV

>>28469321 (OP)
The mismatched seats are extremely funny

>>28474673
>Jim Mero said the ZR1 is even more capable than 7:05.
and? show a video of it lapping the ring faster than 7:05
>do you have any evidence that this>28470638 wouldn't be just as fast without the exhaust?
I have evidence that it wouldn't pass db restrictions, making it non-street legal around the ring, see >>28471326
>no it didn't, bean people are not a reliable source.
you quoted trannybeanpedia here>>28470382
>Don't need one, since you already admitted it was faster here>28473743 lol
that is for non-street legal/production cars lol
>Jim Mero's time can actually be found quoted on the internet.
no it can't
>Don't need to, cause you already admitted its faster regardless.
not a production/street legal one on the same track configuration lol
>A non bean people source AKA jim mero
Jim Meor is shilling for his own suspension tunes
> which you've already accepted
as a non-street legal production time
>so we're in agreement that neither the C7 ZR1 that lapped the ring was production or the GTR. meanwhile, you already agreed that the C7 ZR1 is faster,
the c7 zr1 that lapped the ring wasn't production, the GTR was, as stated by Pistonheads lol
>you still have no argument for the C6 SP
GT3 GTR is faster lol >>28471334
>GG no RE.
ragequitting lol

Lol

>>28469522
>Volkswagen spends more than twice as much as anyone else on R&D
>Volkswagen hasn't made a good car in 50 years
HOW?

>>28475459
Lack of innovation, for one thing. VW Golf has looked the same for the last 20 years.

>>28475466
What are they researching and developing, then?

>>28475658
Bitch met the ban hammer.

>>28475246
Lol!!!

>>28469330
>n-n-n-noooo they're not good they just have money
Cope and seethe mein neiger