The only presentable american sports car

Yawn. Post Viper.

old corvettes look pretty good

>>28474439 (OP)
nigga wut

>>28474600
AC Cars are very British. The hopped up version is very American.

>>28474637
your moms british

>>28474852
Wey aye man.
https://ac.cars/

>>28474439 (OP)
>the only Ford GT generation to never win Lemans

>>28474565
it has the same problem the c7 has
i dont wanna look at it
sure it's impressive but it looks like somebody squished a camry, I don't care about it

>>28474561
>>28474565
I mean lets be honest, the gm corvette and the fiat viper are not sports cars.
They are lifestyle cars with sporty styling and most people just call them hairdressers cars.

>>28475440
viper
>v10
>manual
>hairdresser's car
truly a room temperature iq take

>>28474439 (OP)
Uninspired clone of a Lola Mk.6

>>28474561
They look great but they aren't good. The C3 had a wagon axle.

>>28474565
Yes.

>>28474569
Vaporware.

>>28474600
Literally an AC Ace without a bodykit.

>>28475477
>C3 had a wagon axle.
...what?

>>28474439 (OP)
The Ford GT40 is pretty cool. Went to the reunion last year. Got to sit in one while the owner drove me around the track.
I agree with >>28474561 though. Corvettes and >>28474565 Vipers are great too. Would definitely pay out for a Corvette if I could find a reasonably priced one.

>>28475477
no one even knows what a lola is less known think it looks like the GT.

>>28475477
>the C3 had a wagon axle
What? The C1 was the only generation to have a solid rear axle. Every Corvette since the C2 has had independent rear suspension.

>>28475081
>broke the standing mile record.
>came back a year later and broke its own record.
>came back and broke its own record AGAIN.
>on an abandoned airport runway
0-310.8mph in 1 mile.
Meanwhile all these hypercars need a private 5 mile test track to hit 270.
Years went by and nobody could take the record away from the GT.
Why cant ANYBODY compete on its level?

>>28475808
So many race cars are Lolas people forget where they come from.

>>28476572
Can't believe it takes a mile to hit 300 when literal Chrysler powered home builds can do it in a quarter. Why is Ford so slow?

>>28476601
The Hemi ate itself in that quarter mile, coasted into the pits and the engine had a complete rebuild before it moved again.
The GT drove itself home.
And BTW, they never hit 300mph with a Chrysler product. The engines have been "Hemi based" for decades, they're 100% aftermarket and nothing is interchangeable with the 426.

>>28476572

only thing left from ford gt was badge everything else was modded or replaced

>>28476675
OK if that's a downside for the Hemi, what's the manufacturer warranty on a 300mph GT? Fully streetable and reliable at full boost on pump gas right?

>>28476572
Who cares? They weren't racing against anybody and the fact that no other GT generation bothered with that record makes the '05 GT's biggest achievement look like cope for not being worthy of the legacy. It's like the one family member that dropped out of Yale to pursue a failed streaming career.

>>28476988
That is rather like saying Andy Green drove a quick car once.
Credit to those that made the thing happen.

>>28474439 (OP)
The Camaro makes a fine present.
It even comes with a bow tie on the nose.

>>28476694
Lol.
No.
>the team put together another 5.4-liter V8. With a stock block, worked-over factory cylinder heads with custom cams, a billet crankshaft, forged connecting rods, custom JE pistons, and a pair of Precision 8685 turbos, the combination makes about 3,000 horsepower
Stock suspension with just after market coilovers.
100% stock body and aero.
https://www.jepistons.com/je-auto-blog/3249/?srsltid=AfmBOoo9J-ImTK7x4YR5w2H-83uRe1yeh6EdSk4v877gogfWnDNsQChA

>>28477011
>not a Ford
>not a GT
>not part of a legacy of winning Lemans

I'd call it a strawman argument, but yours is more of a loose pile of hay.

>>28476988
>>28477596
>pushing the limits of physics
vs
>"winning" some eurocuck race by paying the FIA enough money to construct BoP in your favor

pushing the limits of physics is more impressive to me.

>>28477716
>pushing the limits of physics is more impressive to me.
Then you like the car for the wrong reasons.

>>28478746
>you shouldn't like a car because its impressive, you should like it because you want to be validated by eurocucks.

>>28476089
Dude has to be baiting.
The c3s best variants were extremely fast, especially from 68 to the early 70s, even compared to most european competition, even moreso if you make the cost to performance argument.
The c3 was a great car for its time.

>>28478829
Not even what I said. Your haypile is blowing in the wind.

The point is that you're glazing a "Ford GT" for reasons that don't make it a real GT:
>had to be heavily modified from how Ford designed it
>chasing a record that nobody cares about
>needs to very specific conditions to even achieve that record
...What was even the point? Saving face? What it even sanctioned by Ford at all?

>>28474439 (OP)
Wrong

>>28477028
Kek these things look ghetto as fuck

>>28478968
>fag-wheel drive

>>28478966
its not heavily modified. the entire chassis and body is stock as is the engine block aside from removed side mirrors.
If nobody cared about it VAG wouldn't have spent millions trying to chase it themselves.
the "specific conditions" are a 1 mile airport runway on a dry day.
>What was even the point?
BTFO europe just like the GT40 itself. that arguably is actually what makes a "Ford GT". not seeking validation through staged races.

>>28476572
That's an impressive achievement, on par with the record for fastest acceleration in reverse, fastest fwd car to lap the hurrdurrring, and even biggest amount of cupholders for each passenger

>>28478973
>its not heavily modified.
They didn't even use the original engine that came with the car. They used 5.4L with revised heads, new cams, new pistons, new rods, and new crank. The only thing that was the same with the factory motor was the block. They removed the blower and went with a TT setup with all that that entails as far as associated plumbing all the way down to the mufflers and control unit. The suspension was custom for that car. It required race tires. Mirrors and wipers were removed. They stripped the interior and removed all lighinting. They also added rollcage and parachute system.

>If nobody cared about it VAG wouldn't have spent millions trying to chase it themselves.
Did they? Nobody seemed to have noticed which shoud've clued you in on how many people care.

>the "specific conditions" are a 1 mile airport runway on a dry day.
You forgot to mention that the road surface must be maintained, the airport isn't actually using it that day, and that you've been cleared too go out there. Even for people that regularly participate, it's hardly a situation they commonly find themselves in. Depending on how many other cars showed up, you maybe get two passes all day.

>>28479510
>They didn't even use the original engine that came with the car.
oh no, the car is like 70% Ford instead of 100%. and the heads are still factory. just "revised".
>The suspension was custom for that car.
proof?
>It required race tires. Mirrors and wipers were removed. They stripped the interior and removed all lighinting. They also added rollcage and parachute system.
might as well stop shilling your le mans shit since every race car requires racing tires, gutted interior, and a roll cage full of custom racing equipment. the ecoboost GT is barely "Ford" at all, since multimatic built the car. that 310 MPH Ford GT has more ford parts in it modified than the 2016 one does stock.
>Nobody seemed to have noticed
>14 million view video of them attempting 300 mph
either retarded or troll.
>You forgot to mention that the road surface must be maintained
so like everything else you need to drive a super car on.
>the airport isn't actually using it that day,
its an abandoned runway used by the texas mile every year. anyone can use it. there are tons of runways like it in america.

all this coping to downplay an achievement that no other car can actually do. le mans and european endurance racing has been a joke after Group C.

>>28479541
>oh no, the car is like 70% Ford instead of 100%.
If the entire powertrain and gearbox has been replaced, you're already down to ~50% before even doing anything to the chassis.

>and the heads are still factory. just "revised".
The heads were ported and polished. They basically reprofiled the entire air path which was far different from factory. Factory ECU wouldn't be able to run it well.

>proof?
Scott Ahlman at Ahlman Engineering made custom Ohlins setup for the car.
Source: https://www.jepistons.com/je-auto-blog/3249/?srsltid=AfmBOooIlReDSS0FzFcD1LOgn4r1gZ_CZSw7JPS6y6W0nIzLulRGH4MT

>might as well stop shilling your le mans shit
Nah, the difference is that all the other GT gens were built to be racecars. The streetcars were an afterthought hence why we got the MkIII and the '16 GT debuting as a racecar way before the production streetcar. '05 GT was just boomerbait and ended up being a shitty racecar.

>14 million view video of them attempting 300 mph
Who cares? There's literally a video about a Chiron made of Legos with more views than that.

>its an abandoned runway
Not the one that the GT you're glazing ran on. Victoria Regional Airport still chartered with United. Chase Field that they use now also still charters private flights. You can just roll up in your car and start doing passes whenever you want.

>>28480117
>The heads were ported and polished.
Omg the humanity!!!!

Dude thats literally high school year one autoshop. Swapping out the rotating assembly is as standard as changing to carbon metallic brake pads.
Its factory suspension with coil overs. Once again something so basic its not even considered a modification, just tuning.
And youre going to go for the gold with "they removed the mirrors and rear seat!!"...

So much butthurt.
Let.me reiterate for you.
>broke the standing mile record.
>came back a year later and broke its own record.
>came back 6 months later and broke its own record AGAIN.
A modded GT has annihilated every super and hyper car in existence.
An entire planet full of billionaires with Ferraris and Lamborghinis and Bugattis and not a single one has been built that can take away the GT's title.
2 guys in a backyard shed have smoked the ever living shit out of platforms with (literally) billions of dollars into R&D.

>>28480117
>If the entire powertrain
incorrect. the engine block makes up most of the engine, and the fact that they can run so much power through it is a testament of Ford's engines.
>you're already down to ~50%
you underestimate how many components actually go into a car. that isn't even close to 50%.
>OMG THEY PUT COILOVERS!!!
sadly, there's more to suspension than just coils. so it seems like most of the cars suspension is actually factory.
>being a shitty racecar.
apparently not since you're bitching about them adding racing components to beat the world, and the car still needs less racing components to do something no other car can than the ecoshart GT does to do something so many other cars have.
>the difference is that all the other GT gens were built to be in some cucked euro series
again, pushing physics is far more impressive. stop seeking validation from europeans. they stopped caring about their own motorsports until FIA adopted imsa regulations.
>Who cares?
far more people than anyone would care about WEC.

>>28477716
>driving alone on a straight line for 10 minutes
vs
>pushing the limits of man and machine by racing for 24 hours nonstop, competing against multiple other drivers also pushing to their limits, having to deal with traffic, debris, darkness, mechanical and driver fatigue, pace, fuel and tire wear, amongst a multitude of other factors
There's a reason why both Dodge and Chevrolet raced their halo cars on Le Mans instead of trying to beat some whatever record no one but Fordfags care about

>>28481743
some faggy 24 participation trophy ceremony in which you pay the FIA to swing BoP in your favor isn't pushing the limits of anything. Ford went WAT for over a week straight shattering world endurance records without validation from eurocucks. meanwhile, all these european hyper car manufactures continue to dump millions in R&D trying to reach 300 MPH.

i bet you think the Mclaren F1 is impressive for going 240 like every other retard, but suddenly speed doesn't matter.

>>28474561
>old corvettes look pretty good
The ones pre C3 do

>>28481838
Your presence is neither needed nor welcome.
Early C3's are gorgeous.

>>28481826
it's surreal to see how 100,000 miles is considered bog standard/expected now. i know that's hair more than 60 years ago, but still. shows how far things have come, too bad the styling isn't as good.

>>28482091
c3s are trash and you fucking know it fag

>>28482099
>I-I'll use my internet forum buzzwords #34 and #71! T-that'll show him!
C3's are based beyond believe. Fuck off.

>>28474439 (OP)
They kinda ruined it, though.

>>28474439 (OP)
>>28474561
>>28474565
correct

>>28474600
this is some other category I can't even classify

>>28482095
100k miles at WAT is very different from 100k miles over the course of daily driving. most modern cars go into limp mode to prevent damage to the components when you push them for too long. my car does.

>>28481826
Now, hold on..

>>28480463
>it's not modification, just tuning!!!
Such cope. Stop the pedantry. If it's modified or straight up replaced, it's a modification. Especially if you have to change other things in the car to make it work.

>A modded GT has annihilated every super and hyper car in existence.
Cool. But who cares? It's a modified one-off one-trick pony that didn't have to conform to any federal regulations like every new car sold and it probably isn't legal to register in most counties.

>2 guys in a backyard shed
M2K isn't a shed. They have their own building with multiple maintenance bays and a dynamometer.

>>28480592
>incorrect. the engine block makes up most of the engine.
The block was literally the only thing it has in common with the stock powertrain. And in relation to this car, didn't even use the one that the factory installed in it.

>you underestimate how many components actually go into a car.
Bro, you're the one throwing out arbitrary numbers. At least by my logic, a car is defined in two major components: a chassis and the means by which it gets moving. Because nearly the whole powertrain and drivetrain was replaced, it's already down to about half. What was your logic for your 70%?

> it seems like most of the cars suspension is actually factory.
Wrong. Read the article. They were adjustable Ohlins, not factory. They were needed because the factory suspension would only let them top out at 270mph.

>you're bitching about them adding racing components to beat the world
Another strawman because that's not what I said.

>do something no other car can than the ecoshart GT does to do something so many other cars have.
Again, the '16 GT was built up as a racecar a long time before the steetcar. And was successful in motorsport like all the other GTs. The '05 GT was neither of those things.

>>28481826
>muh bop
Just because Ford did it because they can't build a competitive car worth a shit, doesn't mean anyone else does it, for example, the Corvette dominated Le Mans year after year without any BOP, because they can built a sports car worth a shit, same for Dodge with the Viper
>Muh eurocucks validation
Then explain why didn't the GT didn't win any of the american endurance races like Sebring or Daytona? Because it was shit, a Corvette C5.R could wipe the floor with it any day of the week and that's not even a mid engine car
>what about the Mclaren F1
The F1 won Le Mans, the GT didn't
Face it bucko, the GT ran alone on an airport because every time it raced against anyone it lost badly

>>28482693
>this retard doesn't even know how motorsports work
all of the cars racing are governed by BoP at all times. no car can race without it. they all have weight added to them to keep them at parity. no car is actually pushing the limits of anything.
>class "wins"
lmao
>american endurance races like Sebring or Daytona?
I.E more shit that runs on BoP and has the same regulations as the euro series. manufacturers use spec chassis built by one of only 3-4 specified chassis builders.
>A european car won a cucked european race after the FIA killed Group C to make everything slower
yawn

face it, retard. you still can't comprehend that the 310 MPH record is a technical achievement no other car can actually do, while some faggy 24 hour endurance isn't shit compared to an actual endurance record lasting multiple weeks with a car running at WAT the whole time. come back when you have an argument other than participation trophies.

>>28481826
>specially equipped
Argument is invalid.

>>28474439 (OP)
I want to like modern Corvettes, but they're embarrassing. The Ford GT was instantly cool when it came out.

>>28482911
Impressive. You've reached levels of stupidity that shouldn't be possible.

>>28482911
>You gottta heckin respecc my forderino it ran really fast once
>Nooo you can't actually race it, thats too white and too european
>those chud Corvettes and Vipers oppress me every day with their race wins, that's why I have my own diverse and ethically sourced record
>the GT is a technical achievement OKAY chuds? It's so heckin valid and special

>>28483727
Green posting meme babble won't exactly make you look smart.

>>28481826
>Ford went WAT for over a week straight shattering world endurance records
Cute, now watch a real car do it https://youtu.be/PKE3aLLD3HM

>>28474439 (OP)

>>28474600
if reddit was a car

>>28483754
>Front wheel drive
>4 cylinders
>40k less miles than Ford ran in the 60s
Lol

>>28482146
It's similar to the twin-turbo Viper owner where they're addicted to speed in a suicidal way.

>>28481826
What is WAT?

>>28486356
Stop yelling.

>>28486356
wat automotive technology