Thread 28478162

Nissan Leaf in 2013

>An EV with the range of 100-130km, batteries deterioated quickly and charging was exceptionally slow. Motor capable of 110 Hp. New price of 40k USD

Nissan Leaf in 2026

>An EV with the claimed range of maximum 600km, at worst conditions 330km, batteries actively cooled and likely to last. Motor capable of 215 Hp. Can charge 10-80% in 30 minutes. Rumored price of 40k USD. Has all the smart gadgets built in you could ever want.

Do people not realize how insane this is? And why electric-driven technology is so much more exciting than combustion engines? In a span of just over 10 years, the technology has been completely transformed, going from being glorified electric bikes to complete cars that outmatch comparable ICE cars in numerous key areas.

>>28478162 (OP)
>40k for the equivalent to a Nissan Versa, but it will depreciate like a rock

>>28478180
So will that Nissan Versa.

>>28478162 (OP)
>Motor capable of 215 Hp.
ridiculous
as long as the trad mfgs try to gatekeep hp like this, they will continue to be shunned
tesla will happily sell you a 500+hp car for 50k and a 1000hp car for 100k. and the least powerful car they sell is 300hp and rwd at that.

>>28478162 (OP)
>still an ugly piece of shit

>>28478225
Isn't Tesla hp figures a geniune black magic sort of deal impossible to replicate? And while 200 to 500 hp may sound like a massive gap, will most every day drivers even know the difference?

>>28478250
>Isn't Tesla hp figures a geniune black magic sort of deal impossible to replicate?
no? why would they be?
afaik tesla still has a pretty sizeable advantage in efficiency, as in miles/kWhr. not as much as they used to have, but its still there. the best non-teslas manage around 3.5 miles/kWhr, which the 3 and the Y manage 4. that doesn't sound like much, but it is.

>And while 200 to 500 hp may sound like a massive gap, will most every day drivers even know the difference?
wtf? yes, ofc they will
dude, 200 to 300 is already a pretty massive difference. its 50% more (or 33% less)
200 to 500 is 2.5x increase. its YUGE

>>28478223
true, but the cost of depreciation is way lower.

>>28478227
I'd say that has cleaner lines than many other modern cuckovers. That's not a very high standard. And those wheels do look pretty stupid.
Is the Renault-Nissan EV platform any good? Some of their older cars are notorious for electrical faults and not passing their first mandatory inspection because the steering and/or suspension components wear out in 4 years.

>>28478336
>Renault-Nissan
Aww shirt niggs didn't even remember they got frenched.. avoid nigsan.

>>28478162 (OP)
>And why electric-driven technology is so much more exciting than combustion engines?
this doesnt excite me even a little bit

>>28478250
>will most every day drivers even know the difference?
If you put it into sport/fast and regularly enter highways? Yes
Even in Chill you are outaccelerating 95% of vehicles on the road

>>28478250
Anyone can make fast EVs, look at Rivian, Lucid, Porsche, Rimac. The difference is every other automaker still has geriatric old cars that they have to protect. How do you sell someone a $125k GTR when a $40k Leaf is faster.

>>28478339
Why not? All the downsides of EV are being slowly rectified and its advantages over ICE are growing ever more apparent. This is a paradigm shift for the automobile industry. They will talk about these vital years decades from now.

>>28478345
KEK no you aren't you geriatric slowfaglet

>>28478426
Post your car

>>28478428
Which one?

>>28478425
nta but evs are just not exciting. they all feel the same (and what they feel like is not *bad*, it just gets boring) and they sound like nothing (unless they have fake noises, which sound fake and gay)
im not anti-ev by any means, and ill recommend a tesla to anyone and everyone who can charge at home and doesn't need to tow regularly, but i also acknowledge their boringness. evs are just not fun. they're VERY good at being transportation appliances, but not at getting your dick hard. if you want the latter, buy a miata, or a lotus, or a m3, or a porsche, or a ferrari, etc etc (with the obvious caveat that modern ones kinda suck so for many of those you wanna go a generation or several back).

>>28478429
Any of them. Chances are Model 3 beats it in 0-60.

>>28478433
That is true, they don't have the distinct characteristics of ICE. I predict a future where ICE will remain for enthusiasts and racing whereas EV will dominate in the normal every day use which is what most people are interested in.

>>28478426
a plaid (s or x, makes little diff) on chill mode, without cheetah stance, without preheating batteries etc, will out-accelerate anything up to and including a turbo s.
and the turbo s will only keep up (not win, just stay close) if its in full race mode + launch control. if it was in comfort mode, which is what you normally drive in, and just starting normally without launch, it wouldn't even be close.

and ofc, absolutely NOTHING, not even the chiron pursport, or a demon 170, or even a panigale v4 will keep up with the sapphire. the only things faster than that are f1 cars (probably, not sure if its been tested) and straight up drag cars.

>>28478436
LOL not a chance. I've driven a dual motor model y and a base model 3, they're both slow as shit

>>28478162 (OP)
Wait for all the grease fires when these shanedda starts crashing these ev and her fat ass starts fueling these ev fires even more…thanks nissan

>>28478440
Shut the fuck up you little buzzword spewing faggot godsdamn you're a fuckin nerd i literally stopped reading after "chill mode" and "cheetah stance" what the FUCK is this eboniclet BULLSHIT bmaooo

>>28478162 (OP)
>In a span of just over 10 years, the technology has been completely transformed, going from being glorified electric bikes to complete cars that outmatch comparable ICE cars in numerous key areas.
that's nice and all but honestly it's a one trick pony. weee i can go fast man this is fun...maybe after two times. but then when i realise that whether i'm going 10 mph or 100, it's still that same electric motor whine...yeah nah it's just not gonna cut it for me. love revving out a l6 or v8.

>>28478447
Ok bro

>>28478440
>noooo no one drives MODIFIED cars on the street!!!
Kek whenever I see a faggy ahh plaid it's always some geriatric FUCK who never wants the smoke when he hears the APEXBUILT catless downpipes broadcasting all 666 ponies from that TWIN TURBO V8 right into his hearing aid bmaooo faggy ahh tessies get gapped n gaped by fuckin farm trucks BMAOOO

>>28478453
What's the 80-180mph on either one of those?

>>28478457
Faster than whatever shitbox you're driving.

>>28478462
Cope lying bitch

>>28478447
>i drove the two slowest cars this company makes therefore they make no fast cars
yeah i drove a buick envista and a chevy spark so that means the zr1x isn't fast either

>>28478480
Kek cry pussy

>>28478486
Your shitbox is not beating a Tesla on the highway negro

>>28478486
>125x63 1.8kB
What pixelated bimmer do you drive?

>>28478484
>but the model 3 is faster than your car to 60!!!
>why's it so slow then?
>noooo you're not driving the right model 3!!!
I don't care about the minutiae of faggot ev BULLSHITS kek cry pussy bmaooo

>>28478487
LOL what's the 80-180mph of those gay tessies again? Like I said, whenever I see a plaid they don't want the smoke. And it's ALWAYS some OLD as fuck grandpa like LOL what the FUCK is grandpa timmy gonna do when he sees those Angel Eyes and roundel gaining on him at an alarming rate? He sure as shit isn't gonna get the FUCK out of the passing lane I'll tell ya that. They just sit there and get gapped n gaped like little ev pussies bmaooo

>>28478488
Which one?

>>28478497
>>28478496
Is this the power of third-world shitposting?

>>28478497
Do you even have a car?....

>>28478490
>but the model 3 is faster than your car to 60!!!
>why's it so slow then?
>because you drove the slowest version of it
it's like if you said an m3 comp was fast and i said no it's not because i drove a 316i and it was so slow

>>28478507
>>28478506
ev slowfaglets really are in their own litrle world, aren't you?

>>28478512
He said model 3; the M3 isn't a 318i

>>28478513
Not an EV fag and I'd never buy the soulless shit box that the Model 3 is.

>>28478517
The M3 isn't an explosive cuck shed on wheels either

>>28478513
Fuck is that? I can't see shit.

>>28478517
The Model 3 SR is to the M3P what the 316i is to the M3 CS

>>28478571
The dual motor model y was slow as fuck too and the only reason I drove it was because my friend said that it was fast. It's literally his mom's car bmaooo
The interiors are garbage in both, and everything about using the car was annoying as fuck. I don't even care about how slow they are I wouldn't even entertain the idea of driving such a dreadful car

>>28478450
>no you don’t get it I NEED a loud engine to enjoy driving
you’re worse than the people that blast nigger rap on hiking trails because at least they’re far away from most of society. your car is too fucking loud the cops should impound it and fine you for disturbing the peace.

>>28478579
Kek cry pussy

BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
Hear me cummin' through the radio
Watch me go zoom, zoom, ZOOM
Try to catch me, but you're too slow
Too slow, too slow *GASP*

>>28478578
Okay so we've moved up from a 316i to a 330i. Does a 330i being slow make the M3 CS slow?

>>28478584
No it makes G20s slow THOUGH. G80s are fast right out of the box and can be made fast as FUCK with a few simple MODIFICATIONS

>>28478426
As said, most them
Remember:
1. No getting up to the sweetspot where it starts giving you proper torque
2. No gearing. Which also means no need to post launch gearshift while hitting the redline of first or second
3. Tesla has done a amazing job at tuning the autospin setup, meaning it do a really good job at avoding burnouts or losing grip

>>28478162 (OP)
Doesn't go vroom and feel like it's straining, so I can't get excited about it. Marketing execs hear this and tell the engineers to hide a speaker in there somewhere that makes car noises, instead of looking into electric motors that make some cool intense electric whir when doing highway speeds. For the entirety of human history, work has required exertion, and so exertion has become synonymous with power and force. Now these gay little electric motors are silently setting track records around the world and these electric fanboys still don't understand why nobody cares. Make it go electric vroom.

>>28478599
And yet they're STILL slow as FUCK with garbage interiors and pikachu appliance styling bmaooo

>>28478513
>>28478497
>>28478496
>implying your slavcore 2010 BMW is faster than this

https://youtu.be/TQC7cY0YCkU?t=873

>>28478610
LOL my cars are definitely faster than that faggot appliance. What's the 80-180 on that thing again?

>>28478609
>STILL slow as FUCK
Either 99.99% of cars are slow as fuck, which means its a rhetorical dead end, and can't be used to argue anything
Or you are deluded, and thereby are failing to have a meaningful interaction with strangers on the interwebs

>>28478594
Why are fast and slow BMWs allowed to coexist but all Teslas get packaged together with the slowest cheapest base model version? Why do you get to say "well the base model version is slower but the performance version is faster" in reference to BMW but if someone says the same thing about a different car then it doesn't count?

>>28478614
Sure bud

>>28478615
>99.99% of cars are slow as fuck
Now we're talkin'. I don't know about 99.99%, nut everywhere I go everyone mostly has slow as fuck cars still on their hilariously HUGE, beancounter INSPIRED, old-man-appeasing, stock suspensions. Mostly.

>>28478605
see >>28478579

>>28478623
>noooo cars can't go above 163mph why else would daddy elon limit it to that speed?!?
Kek cry pussy

>>28478622
The ones that people mostly buy are SLOW as FUCK. Mostly. And then when you actually do see a plaid it's always some grandpa that doesn't even want to run it. evs are fucking gay as shit bmaooo

>>28478630
>The ones that people mostly buy are SLOW as FUCK
Same applies to BMW

>>28478635
Yeah but at least they'll still fuckin' run it
tessie faggots are always doing 5 under the speed limit with their highbeams on in whatever random lane and then they can never keep up when I hit em with the RockSpray™ bmaooo

>>28478630
You say this as it most people who buy BMWs aren't buying base model X3s and X5s. Most people who buy Teslas buy slow base model crossovers, therefore the Model 3 Performance isn't fast. Most people who buy BMWs buy base model crossovers, therefore the M3 isn't fast.

>>28478622
Traditionally you would buy the SUPER SPORT PACKAGE or whatever its called, to get the comfiest interior setup. With the added benefit that the engine wasn't that bad for overtaking.
Tesla isn't doing that, but it still offers a setup with a worse speaker setup, and traditional car buyers are used to splurge to get that comfy interior and whatnot

Also with that much horsepower on the base model, there isn't any real point in going beyond whatever their 4LR model is called for that segment.

>>28478643
The model 3 performance isn't fast
Post its 80-180mph time. You won't. You CAN'T bmaooooo

>>28478640
God damn what an obnoxious BMW slavnigger you are.

>>28478648
godsdamn what a NERDBALL you are bmaooo

>>28478650
BMW is slavnigger-core. Sorry to break it to you. You're not impressing anyone outside of some ex-USSR shithole.

>>28478647
They're limited to 160. That's why you pick 80-180, because you know the M3 CS with the M Drivers package can do 180. Even though without it it's limited to 155. You know that every other metric of acceleration, 0-60, quarter mile, 60-120, 120-160, the BMW is losing every time. So you fixate on this 180 number because if that's where you put the goalposts, you can't lose. Which is sad considering you're comparing a $150k car (which you don't and will never own) to a $50k car

>>28478162 (OP)
Pretty based honestly. This might be the first EV I buy.

>>28478657
Who's trying to impress anyone? I just only see moms, grandpas, and injuns (dots not feathers) going fucking 5 under the speed limit with their highbeams on for no reason driving these appliance bullshits
Shit's for the boids

>>28478662
Lol the M3 is way fucking faster than the faggy model 3 even out of the box. Not to mention after a few simple MODIFICATIONS
>inb4 nooooo you can't MODIFY a car that's rIcE!!!!

>>28478666
But enough about BMW drivers.

>>28478672
Then post the M3 0-60. You won't you CAN'T bmao

>>28478673
>>28478648
Which is it?

>>28478338
Renault is single-handedly saving the EV market

>>28478675
https://youtu.be/uujWewjpRTM
Post a faggy model 3 or model s doing a 7 sec quarter lol
You won't
You CAN'T
BMAOOOO

>>28478681
Good cars but a bit lacking in range for 2025 standards. And of course the cheap base models aren't worth shit so you're spending close to premium prices on EVs that aren't really premium class.

>>28478663
Me too. It looks really cool in every way. I hope they don't go bankrupt any time soon.

https://youtu.be/q6ktnaHqeig?t=164

Look how compact and cool it is. I just love it.

>>28478683
is that your car in the video? if it's not then no one cares.

>>28478695
So no faggy model 3 or model s doing a 7 second quarter? bmaooo

>>28478699
Are we talking about cars nobody owns now? Might aswell post Tesla Roadster numbers then.

>>28478672
HaHAhAahAHaha no its not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt9mj6qywKs&pp=ygUZbTMgdnMgbW9kZWwgMyBwZXJmb3JtYW5jZQ%3D%3D

and its 2x the price. and its slower.
2x price
SLOWER

>>28478699
is your car doing a 7 second quarter?

>>28478704
And yet >>28478683

>>28478705
Is yours?

>>28478708
>the m3 isn't slow
>not if you spend another $50k on top of its $110k starting price modifying it
>and also make it 100% unlivable on the daily
>and also illegal in every jurisdiction that bothers to check anything

face it faggot. ICEs have lost the speed crown. the $4mil chiron pursport loses to the $250k sapphire in the quarter mile. and it barely inches ahead of the $100k model s plaid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDpQpcPpuc&list=PLHKCmmH-x9mK8UKm8V1hMOO9vwl6FjuMB&index=15&pp=iAQB

and also there's a fat nigger in the thumbnail of your video

>>28478711
i'm not the one posting videos of highly modified drag cars

>>28478800
the one he posted is 100% a track car. it has no seats, carbon hood/roof/truck and DOORS. DOORS. CARBON FIBER FUCKING DOORS.
imagine how unsafe, uncomfortable, loud and extremely illegal all that shit is. imagine how expensive it is to buy a m3 cs AND THEN DO ALL THAT SHIT TO IT.

and worst of all, just how contrary to the ethos of the m3 it is.
the m3 is SUPPOSED to be a sleeper. a comfortable, quiet, reserved, safe executive sedan you can and will daily, except, you know, its spicy.
and those fags have RUINED it.

>>28478818
yeah but if you spend $140k on a M3 and then spend another $125k on parts then it'll be faster than a $45k tesla and that's what really matters

>>28478818
The M3 is supposed to be a homologation race car made from a sports coupe. You're thinking of the M5

>>28478719
https://youtu.be/klPtoTE4ML0 gaoped n gaped by a truck LOL

>>28478832
The M3 is already faster than the appliance, the MODIFICATIONS just made it even faster

>>28478847
this vid goes very hard
love from eurostan
I hate EV's so much it's unreal

>>28478579
lmfao boy did i strike a nerve, who said anything about loud? my old cressida was bone stock and it sounded wonderful. despite all the acoustic insulation that made it surprisingly quiet on the highway, the engine could still be clearly heard and it was awesome.

>>28478506
>>28478610
Can you new fags stop replying to bait ?

>>28478162 (OP)
They make sense at $10K used.
Not so much $40K.
EVs tend to lose 1/2 their value within 3yrs or less.
Make nonsense to buy new.

>>28478578
>0-60 in 4.8s
That’s fast as fuck for a family SUV. Stop pretending it is slow

>>28479845
You're arguing with a idiot. They will just spew their bullshit opinion without any real research or thought.

>>28479535
Every time you buy a used EV you're taking a gamble on having to replace the $20k+ battery. Are you going to put a new pack into a EV that's lost 1/2 or more of it's value? Would you put a new $200 battery into a 10 year old laptop?

>>28479845
Suburbans were doing that 30 years ago. That's hardly impressive coming from a modern electric crossover. Also learn the difference between quick and fast.

>>28481355
>Suburbans were doing that 30 years ago
There wasn't even a single SUV doing that 30 years ago let alone a suburban. The quickest accelerating SUV from the 90s was the GMC Typhoon at 5.3 seconds. It held its record from 1992 all the way until 2006 when Jeep released the Grand Cherokee SRT8.
But by today's standards 4.8s really isn't exceptionally quick for a midsize crossover, that's true. A lot of electric and and turbo AWD ones will do that.

>>28481392
>There wasn't even a single SUV doing that 30 years ago let alone a suburban
You sure about that? And yes this was a dealer option so yes it was technically "production".

>>28481399
forgot link.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15140929/lingenfelter-gmc-suburban-archived-specialty-file/

>>28478162 (OP)
/O/ is a faggot board who all hate Nissan for no reason. Even their favorite Toyota's and Honda's suck now in 2025, gone are the days of the "legendary Toyota reliability". Ignore these faggots. I'd buy that Nissan Leaf if I was a young 20 something and just starting out, and wanted an electric vehicle. I'd get that over a model 3.

>>28481402
>And yes this was a dealer option so yes it was technically "production"
Did you even read the article yourself?
>just buy a GMC or Chevy Suburban and drive to Lingenfelter's Indiana shop with another $38,000 in hand
Yeah sure there were fast SUVs in the 90s if you bought one and replaced the engine. Oh and also it cost as much as a new Ferrari 348.

>>28481355
>Every time you buy a used EV you're taking a gamble on having to replace the $20k+ battery.
a) nowadays its like 10-12k from oem, less from 3rd party. and prices are constantly dropping
b) every time you buy a used ICE, you're taking a gamble on having to replace the engine

>Are you going to put a new pack into a EV that's lost 1/2 or more of it's value?
would you put a new engine into an m3 that's lost 1/2 or more of its value?

>>28481438
You didn't have to drive anywhere. You paid the dealership the $100k or whatever and you picked up the vehicle when it was done. A fully loaded Tesla costs as much as a C8... I said it was possible, not cheap.

>>28481514
Battery prices are obviously not dropping when a fucking Leaf is $40k... My 20 year old truck with over 200k miles runs just fine. Why would you need to replace an engine in a 3 year old car?

>would you put a new engine into an m3 that's lost 1/2 or more of its value?
Fuck no unless it's an LS. German vehicles are another example of a vehicle you never fucking buy used.

>>28481681
Anything is "possible". People were running 10s back in the 60s with heavily modified cars. Doesn't that mean a 10 second quarter mile in a production car isn't fast? The fact remains that a sub 5s 0-60 is still relatively quick by modern SUV standards. It's faster than the vast majority of new non-electric cars.

>>28481355
EV batteries even after a decsde of taxi use still maintain 90% of original charge.

>>28481681
>Battery prices are obviously not dropping when a fucking Leaf is $40k
This one has like 6 times the range and KWh than the original Leaf. So prices have fallen near 80% per KWh. Point me to an ICE car with the same progress in value.

>>28481848
Those are not dedicated propulsion batteries. They're trickle charged and discharged compared to a pure EV battery. Taxi's also live an extremely easy life.

>>28481853
>Point me to an ICE car with the same progress in value.
Pickup trucks used to be slow, barebones work vehicles. Now they're luxury sedans with beds that do 60 in under 6 seconds. Even a fucking Versa is an upgrade in every way possible over this.

>>28478250
Volts X Amps = Watts, I.E. Kilowatts
That's how easy it is to gain more power.
That's equally how easy it is to blow your battery and spark your wires at low voltage.

>>28482058
>Volts X Amps
I have no idea what either of these are, beyond being electricity.

>>28481880
>Pickup trucks used to be slow, barebones work vehicles. Now they're luxury sedans with beds that do 60 in under 6 seconds
Over the course of how many decades, and how many times more expensive? A Leaf that's ten times better than just a decade ago for the same price. That's unheard of in ICE.

>>28481880
>Pickup trucks used to be slow, barebones work vehicles
If you need a big engine for towing, its going to be with a big engine for towing as a option.

Pizza van shitbox? A option for 1,7l engine out of the factory, because its the minimum size you don't want to KYS when you encounter your first hill while towing
The same is true for the utility van or truck.

>>28482076
>Over the course of how many decades, and how many times more expensive?
They cost the same as they always have. If anything they cost less considering the features and performance you get.

>A Leaf that's ten times better than just a decade ago for the same price
You know old Leafs were some of the worst vehicles ever created, right? protip! Don't use them as a benchmark.

>>28482127
What? Trucks and vans have never used engines that small in the developed world. They've always been big V8's. Instead of them making 150hp they make 400hp now and even the "small" engine options are 350+hp.

>>28483519
>They cost the same as they always have. If anything they cost less considering the features and performance you get
[Doubt]

>>28483858
My 20 year old SUV would have been over $100k in today's money. There's a night and day difference between it and a new $100k Suburban or Escalade. You know trucks weren't $10k new back then, right?

>>28481355
>Every time you buy a used EV you're taking a gamble on having to replace the $20k+ battery.
People who get quoted those prices went to a stealership who wants them to fuck off the premises. Actual prices are lower.
Ex: evshop(dot)eu/en/battery-pack/1514-52-kwh-renault-zoe-battery-pack(dot)html
Less than 5000 euros.
Yes, it's a scrapyard job (probably totalled car), but it's still fresh, since that battery size was only produced between 2020 and 2024.
That particular battery is likely going to end up at Dala's Electric Auto Repair and Finnish Swearwords.

>Are you going to put a new pack into a EV that's lost 1/2 or more of it's value?
Value is meaningless, unless you buy new every 4 years (in which case you're a sucker). An electric car has less mechanical shit to break down: no oil system is a big one (engine lubrication is one of the most fragile bits in a car), fuel pump is another one, cooling is yet another one (ICE cooling systems are much more stressed than EV ones, due to higher temperatures). There are simply fewer points of cascade failures (fix one thing, another one breaks; how many people can claim that never happened to their old jalopy).

>Would you put a new $200 battery into a 10 year old laptop?
If that laptop was a 2015 Alienware that cost $3000 when new, and I got it for a pittance, bet.

>>28484317
they do still have tranny oil though

>>28484526
The difference between the oil and coolant in an EV vs a gas car is one is a sealed unit and the fluids and filters never need to be changed for the lifetime of the vehicle and the other isn't

>>28483519
>They've always been big V8's.
Hahahahah
hahaha
ahahah

Let me give you a RL example
>The Willys L134 (nicknamed Go Devil) is a straight-4 flathead automobile engine that was made famous in the Willys MB and Ford GPW Jeep produced during World War II. It powered nearly all the Jeep vehicles built for the U.S. and Allies.[1] It was later used in a variety of civilian Jeep vehicles.
This was later replaced by the F4-134, which is 2,2l 4cyl And the F4-134 was produced until the 1970s.

The unique distinction for the US market is that you can buy a truck to pull a small freight train.
But that is something that did not happen until big enough trucks existed.

>>28484559
>The difference between the oil and coolant in an EV vs a gas car is one is a sealed unit and the fluids and filters never need to be changed for the lifetime of the vehicle and the other isn't
Nah, I have an older Renlol Zoe, the coolant tank has a bog-standard cap on it, and you top it up if it drops too low (though, barring coolant hose leak, you only need to do it once every several years). Gearbox oil change is recommended to be performed every 30k km (about 18.5k miles). It's a very thick goo, 75W-80.

>>28484710
no one cares about your shitty french car. in first world countries real evs don't require fluid or filter changes

>>28484716
What filter? There's no filter anywhere. It's a just small trough which holds a bit under a quart of goo for the reduction gearing/diff.

>>28484722
ok

>>28484559
>lifetime fluid
ahh now where have i heard that before

B
Lotsa horse powers means lotsa insurance costs. 150-200 hp is ideal for a daily.

>>28485816
Bayerische
Mahommedan
Werke

>>28487970
I would agree with that, it it worked like that.

ON a ICE the cylinder volume is the only factor, after measuring effectivity per liter of fuel. You get a static output defined by volume of fuel injected and BOOMED.
On a BEV I can get 1HP then 2HP, and then 100HP and t hen 600HP when you floor it past liftoff.
For now a lot of BEV will instead have high premium due too wide tires, old men buying sports car and driving into buildings in the parking lot, and a very questionable backlog of parts not sold at market price

Hey, EV drivers, guess what?
YOU are fucking up the environment.
>https://glassalmanac.com/the-decline-in-car-pollution-poses-an-unexpected-problem-for-global-warming/
What are you going to do about it?

>>28489561
Not my problem

>>28489561
>The solution isn’t to ramp NOₓ back up—these pollutants pose serious health risks. Instead, scientists urge a dual approach: continue cutting harmful emissions while tackling methane sources directly—from agriculture to landfills. Only by balancing reductions in both nitrogen oxides and greenhouse gases can we hope to curb the unexpected side effects of cleaner car emissions and keep our climate goals on track.

????

>>28489759
don't cat converters cut down NOx?

>>28489759
so what they're saying is cars were never the problem

>>28488609
>For now a lot of BEV will instead have high premium due too wide tires, old men buying sports car and driving into buildings in the parking lot, and a very questionable backlog of parts not sold at market price
Every agent I've asked has mentioned electric cars are placed in a separate bin, primarily due to shitslas being nightmares to repair in case of accidents. And also the fires.

>>28490461
>rear
Rear is the same between models.

There is a point on the battery pouch cell recall on the LG cells, but that is as far as it goes.
So let me repeat myself:
1. Old men buying sports cars, and then getting pedal panic while 0-100 in 3 seconds is enough to be inside the building
2. Lack of part catalogue backlog, meaning OEM can charge whatever for a new mint part from Mexico or China per crate
3. SUV tires.....