Thread 28478468

literally all of social media seems to be flooded with post about walkable cities with high density housing. Any discussion about improving roads is filled with anticar faggots seething. where the fuck did these people come from?

>>28478468 (OP)
People who drive are generally obnoxious and self-centered assholes. If you live in a big city, chances are there are better methods of travel than cars.

>>28478468 (OP)
One, it’s social media. The average person isn’t espousing their beliefs there. It’s just a loud minority. Second, is it really such a bad thing to want spics, negroes and white women on their phones off the road by giving them alternatives to driving? Imagine if the interstates were just driven by enthusiasts.

>>28478468 (OP)
All the millennials in cities can’t afford and don’t need cars (despite using uber to get everywhere) and can’t imagine life in a suburb or rural area at all to consider life isn’t the same everywhere.

The WEF and Soros also have this idea that cars are wasteful use of resources and pollute too much so they want them to go away and have been spending money promoting this idea.

>>28478495
People still overwhelmingly want to drive, even faggot millennials. It’s purely an issue of finances, people can’t afford cars. I see a multitude of even zoomers that are supposedly the gayest generation ever regarding cars coming to car meets hosted, gawking at all manners of cars.

>>28478468 (OP)
I think it's because American cities are very unwalkable and driveable so people want to make them very walkable and undeiveable like there was nothing in between. It's like when Italy and Spain decided to go communist right after their fascists died.

>>28478468 (OP)
Just jews astroturfing. They no longer have the power to enact it beyond bots and broke minded white women.

>>28478503
With a car... You can go anywhere.

>>28478503
>It’s purely an issue of finances
Mostly this. Cars aren't very exciting these days and have increased in price and cost to own more than income has for 99% of people.
There's also been years of propaganda in movies and by people who want to appear "green" that cars are just evil.
Then the whole phones thing, they can't imagine missing a discord msg for 5 minutes. And they've lived inside so any form of physical danger seems to terrify many zoomers in stead of exciting them.
The population has increased and towns are more dense than 20 years ago, driving in heavy traffic isn't a good time.

>>28478521
Trip back on faggot

>>28478525
No.

>>28478468 (OP)
It's part of the "climate crisis" push which is a push to urbanize and restrict middle and lower class people to police state friendly cities. It goes along with the expansion of the rental based economy with massive corporations buying homes to reduce home ownership, and deliberately inflationary policies and onerous regulations making cars more expensive and less long lasting to discourage driving and car ownership.

>>28478468 (OP)
Take a roadtrip to /n/ for a few minutes and you'll see. Its an annoying handful of losers who are broke ass losers living in the gutters of dying cities who think if everybody shared their misery then they wouldn't be such failures by comparison.

>>28478521
>The population has increased and towns are more dense then 20 years ago, driving in heavy traffic isn't a good time
Very much fucking this. Im only a 30yo boomer but I recall there being way less traffic when I started driving 14ish years ago. Maybe I'm looking back on the past with rose tinted glasses, but so many fucking jeets and sandmonkeys have come here in the last 10 years, plus Uber, food deliveries and package deliveries that the roads are just completely clogged with them.
If you go up north out of this city hellhole it's much better, but cities are unbearable to drive in leafland

>>28478468 (OP)
It's people priced out of a car that also still live off their family. A majority do not have jobs and just want a super cheap house and to walk away from family without putting actual work twords moving out cause they got media and sitcom views of reality and cities.

>>28478468 (OP)
COVID WFH revolution made people with a brain (office workers who WFH) realize that driving is retarded and dangerous.

>>28478468 (OP)
anxious slaves are proliferating

>>28478468 (OP)
Cars are THEE most jewish of all businesses

There will always be a housing crisis but retards still choose to degrade quality of life for other with forced density

Real question, isnt it a good thing to give city dwellers a walkable city so there are less car drivers around and all of /o/ suburbanites/rurals can just drive and have fun with less npcs and retards on the road? Isnt this a win win for everyone? Why would you as a car owner living outside of a city give a single shit that the inner city is less congested in the future? I live in the Netherlands, which is generally one of the top countries those content creators talk about for walkability and I actually hate that our train system is going through the shitter which caused more bad drivers to be on the road. It used to be so much better.

>>28478649
It isn't a win-win because driving in walkable cities is always fucking garbage

>>28478468 (OP)
They're using not owning things and gen a/zoomers are afraid of being outside

If you lower the amount of distance people can go to access goods and services, it's easier to control what those people have access to.

Their end goal is to have the people be as dependent on the government as possible and be completely incapable of providing for themselves.

>>28478656
Because nothing screams independence from government more than using a vehicle that requires the active import and government management of fuel on a daily basis. LAND OF THE FREE!

>>28478660
also the billions of dollars of taxes that are collected at gunpoint to fund public roadways.

>>28478652
that's the point, the whole purpose is to discourage driving in that area, it is garbage because you aren't supposed to be doing that

like golfing with a baseball bat, yeah it sucks, that's not what it's made for

>>28478660
USA is is a net exporter of oil.
>>28478665
Those roads helped us win wars and develop technology that made the country what it is. It's how goods get to you and the shops yo go to.

>>28478686
win what wars? are you referring to logistics within the US during ww2? if so, that's nothing to brag about because the wrong side won that war.

>>28478689
That was not important, but yes WWII and others.
Having transportation built this country because commerce and quality of life exploded. Mail, medicine, goods and services - we can't have railways connecting every town of 200 people across the country.

>>28478468 (OP)
Leftists babbling retarded propaganda. As usual.

You also have to remember that leftist beliefs are entirely based in spite and bitterness. They will present vaguely plausible arguments, but that's an irrelevant smokescreen. This is why their arguments constantly change and often contradict themselves. They aren't ever making a good faith argument. The actual purpose and motivation is to make things shittier because they're so upset about being ugly loser faggots who hate themselves. So instead of actually improving things they want to make everything shit for everyone and ruin anything good.

>>28478668
That's gay as fuck though. If I'm in a ciry, I want to be able to drive my car to where I'm going, have ample parking day or night, and be able to see my car while eating out
San Diego and Santa Barbara are as "walkable" as I want a city to be. Kansas City (MO) was pretty good too for that. Cities like Barcelona, London, and Rome are just fucking terrible to drive in

>>28478697
do you actually believe any of this gay and retarded jibberish?

>>28478701
Yes. It's the truth. Die mad, faggot.

>>28478483
The paradigm shift is insane.
When I was young, you went and got your license the saturday following your 16th birthday. If you hit 17 and still didn't have a license everyone wondered what was wrong with you.
And yes, thats the "we rode our bikes around the neighborhood until the street lights came on and drank from the garden hose" generation.
Now kids just hang out online and their "friends" are people they play video games with who might live in Japan or Egypt or Chile. They dont care about mobility, everything is brought to them electronically while they sit in the basement eating cheetos and slamming mountain dew.

Cars are shit in cities and there'sliterally no reason for a sane human being to visit a city, let them have their public transport stabtopia if they want it.

>>28478652
Idk man, I would say it's pretty good here even around cities. The only thing that is near impossible is the old town city center for non residents. But you can just park ur car outside and walk or ride the bus for that last 500 meters u fatass. Idk what you people always complain about.

>>28478468 (OP)
I'm not sure what the name of it is but it's a classic example of jews taking something reasonable or even appealing and layering on malicious subtext and implications.
>Wouldn't it be nice to have everything within walking distance? So much healthier, and more parks and stuff.
>hey yeah that sounds reasonab-
>So let me legislate away your ability to drive or own private vehicles or private housing and make you live in a cuckpod in an "enriched" urban center oh and also this will be a political talking point for more than a decade
or something like that, yeah

>>28478707
im not a 'leftist' nor do i subscribe to you mentally deranged MIGA pickup truck tardwife sucking the cocks of big jew businesses nonsense.

>>28478734
Nice schizo babble. Ironic.

>>28478712
>And yes, thats the "we rode our bikes around the neighborhood until the street lights came on and drank from the garden hose" generation.
Didnt help that boomers and cops hated kids.
>Banned from the mall cuz them kids up to no good
>Banned from loitering around (parking lots) cuz them kids up to no good
>Walk /bike around town at night and literally get held up by cops why you are outside
>Years of parents and media scaring kids to not go outside cuz they get kidnapped, killed by crackheads or ran over by drunk drivers
>Force both parents work so hard they barely have time for kids and treat schools as daycare so the kid cant go anywhere thanks to the parent not having time to drive em around
>Make this generation poorer than any generation before in the last 60 years so they can only afford a 5k$ shitbox Honda or go into massive debt instead of a cheap sports car and wonder why they dont like driving
Kids simply adapted to the environment they got handed to them. Opening your phone and sitting on your couch gives you instant, easy and cheap access to dopamine. Being broke and driving with friends to somewhere for an experience is expensive. Not to mention that covid hand an incredible impact on interpersonal relationships for people and the breakdown of friendship /ability to make friends for a lot of people including kids.

>>28478740
from your perspective that wouldn't be ironic, it would be what you would expect. read a book.

>>28478743
It's ironic because you were just whining about "gibberish". I'd expect you to not immediately schizo out. Then again, in retrospect, the type of person who would whine about what I said is the type to schizo.

>>28478742
>them kids up to no good
To be fair there are a lot more ethnic kids who are actually up to no good. Most of that is how they are raised

>>28478731
I want my car right outside of where i am at all times

>>28478757
>white kids up to no good
Riding bikes at night, playing ball games in parks and doing mild jackass stunts
>nig kids up to no good
Murder, theft, vandalism, armed robbery, drug use and dealing

>>28478698
What's next? You want to drive the car inside the store/restaurant?

>>28478938
Already solved. It's called a drive through. You can thank America for yet another life changing invention.

>>28478985
>eating in your car because you are too fat to walk for 3 minutes
Disgusting

>>28479005
So?

>>28478468 (OP)
I just hate that having a daily driver is necessary. I'd love to not be shackled to a car in order to leave my house. I wish I could just own a car for leisure, that I take out on weekends.

>>28478483
I love watching druggies shooting up in the streets my children play in.

Take care of the homeless druggy issue and I might consider living in a walkable city. Unitl then, I'll drive 30 minutes to the local Walmart.

>>28478733
what they don’t tell you, that you have to figure out for yourself, is that suburbia cannot coexist with walkable neighborhoods.
You can’t own a detached house, you can’t even own a semidetached townhouse. at absolute best you get a high rise condo, but more likely you’re renting an apartment for life.
I’d love to drive to a walkable neighborhood, park my car and walk from there, but I’d never want to live in one.

>>28478468 (OP)
Because cars are shit (especially anything modern) and car-centric cities are unlivable hellholes.

Just objective truths.

>>28478468 (OP)
It's about taking away another freedom under the guise of a benefit. It's a trick as old as time.

>>28479078
You're a retard. Streetcar suburbs existed for decades, with detached houses and a few local stores for essentials.

>>28479095
streetcars have not existed for over 100 years at this point
you VILL park unt ride

>>28479095
streetcars aren’t walkable either. Might as well call my neighborhood walkable because it’s only a quarter mile walk to the bus stop (followed by 30 minutes to get the 3 miles into town)

>>28479100
Not quite a hundred years but I see your point. The thing is, those old suburbs are worth real money now because they were and are nice places to live. The urban fabric is superior to what has been made post-war.
You can tell when an urbanist group is legitimately grassroots when they're wanting to bring back the streetcars.

social media is flooded with literal bots that push an anti-car narrative.
the elites want the poors and proles to not have personal transportation (apart from maybe a bicycle).

>>28479078
>what they don’t tell you, that you have to figure out for yourself, is that suburbia cannot coexist with walkable neighborhoods.
It can, because they can both exist in different locations. We're not living in a cloistered mega anthill city from a dystopian apocalypse, we have people that want to live in a nice city and people that want to live in a nice neighborhood and people that want to live in a nice countryside and wow look at that they are all, already, different places.

>>28479082
>unlivable hellhole

>>28479300
>photo for ants

>>28479242
You misunderstand. Walkable city fags want to force everyone to live in bug nests. They do not want suburbia and rural to exist anywhere, ever.

>>28479242
I dont have a pile of used hypodermic needles by the mailbox on my rural dirt road.
I dont have to have a locked mailbox.
I dont even lock my vehicles, because theres nobody around who's interested in breaking into or stealing them. In fact, the keys are on the dash of all of them.

Can you show me a "walkable city" where all of that is also true?

>>28479242
oh ok, so all the walkable city people can just move out of their parents suburban homes and into their nearest urban hellscape and shut up about forcing it on everyone else then. problem solved.

>>28478483
*run you over*

I tell you hwhat, if you ban cars in cities, will you legalize hard drugs? No real reason if you don't have to drive anymore, right? #artOfTheDeal

>>28478468 (OP)
>social media
lol. terminally online whingers and narcissists that love reading and hearing their own thoughts

Anon instead of being reactionary and upset, just realize that if we could all walk to work and get food and groceries, and just use our cars for random fun activities, driving would be so much more enjoyable
>t. pedestrian chad for 5 days a week for work and only drives his sports car on the weekend

>>28479678
Do you suck cocks 5 or 7 days a week?

>>28478468 (OP)
No one wants to take cars away, some just want to have room for public transport so you don't NEED a car to get around. As a prime poor fag, growing up in Texas was fucking miserable because of this, when I was a 18 people wouldn't even hire me if they realized I didn't have a car, like they would literally walk me to the door and watch to make sure I didn't walk to the bus stop.

>>28478468 (OP)
Because brokies can't afford cars since they consoom non-stop.

>>28479912
Stale pasta

I advocate for walking cities because Americans are too fat to deserve to drive.

IMMIGRATION HAS MADE DRIVING UNBEARABLE.

FUCKING AFRICAN WOMEN
FUCKING RICAN SLOBS
4755567747647945747588 OF THEM
ALL DAY
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Zoomers don't actually hate cars, they like talking about hating cars. Despite every aspect of their lives being delivered by a shitbox whether it's their kale at whole foods or their bad dragon dildo from amazon it's easy to virtue signal that cars are bad.

Think about the public transit meme for a second. Who the fuck wants to share a steel box with people they don't like???

They're kinda right tho, transporting a single person with a cage is wasteful. Motoring on two wheels is more fun.

>>28479903
Reasonable posts like this will be ignored.

>>28479929
I cast Holy into the distance. and end my turn. That was a reasonable post indeed.

>>28478468 (OP)
>why did anti car discussion get do popular the past few years?

University system group think. They all want to be Europeans and not just any Europeans; but the most pussy European you've ever met.

>>28479948
I never went to university and I think walkability is a good thing. Needing a car to properly participate in society is not freedom.

>>28479903
>No one wants to take cars away
objectively a lie

>>28480020
Go live in a city and don't try to force everyone else to do so.
>No one says everyone must live in a city
Yes they do. It's a popular leftist POV and the source of most opposition from everyone else. The real question is why have cities in the US been under leftist control for over half a century and yet they're not the walkable utopia leftists demand? Why haven't leftist leaders given leftist voters what they want? And why do leftist voters keep electing leftist city leaders who won't even keep something as simple as the sidewalk in good repair? In many cities, sidewalk don't even exist outside of business districts. For some reason city leftists blame rural conservatives for leftist city leaders not building leftist desired amenities in their leftist cities.

>>28479903
Move to a city. You chose to live in a suburban or rural area and then demanded a government chauffeur and millions spent on infrastructure so you could larp as an urbanite outside of an actual city.

>>28478483
Agreed.

t. I have eight cars between 60 years old and 20 years old, three registered, five projects. I also have multiple bikes and commute by bike on sunny days, and I also have a bus pass. It depends what mode of transport is the best for a given trip, or even multi-modal, e.g. park-and-ride.

Anyone who's discarding a mode of transport out of ideological reasons is a retard.

>>28479300
Whatever these pixels show, that's not a city.

>>28479914
You can't reject reality by calling it a pasta

>>28480187
It's San Diego

>>28480091
>He chose
At 18 I think anon was still living at home

>>28480664
Living with the parents as an adult is a cheat code. The reason to get your own place is to have sex, that's the only benefit - is it worth it? Most nerds aren't getting laid, it's been years for me why do I need my own place? Just to be some financial company's slave? And the best part is you can be there for your old folks when they need it.

>>28479095
Was there perhaps something different about society back then that made it so that streetcars were viable?

>>28481687
>Was there perhaps something different about society back then that made it so that streetcars were viable?
Yes, there weren't people raging about skin color online because that's their only sense of worth in the world. Black people probably see this shit on the internet and freak out and become afraid of the outside world, you would too. Unfortunately, scared male animals are much more violent than calm ones.
I think we should have the right to be racist on the internet, but why should we be? What does that accomplish?

>>28480091
I live in a city you meandering faggot, and public transport was almost nonexistent here till a few years ago, still a long ways to go. But I'll happily do 3 train transfers to get to work than be stuck in gridlock and getting baked in the sun while one of you raging retards cause a pile up because someone thought they could cut off a semi

>>28481695
Huh, I was just thinking about how there weren't as many cars back then, but then you turn it into this racist reddit shit. Weird, weird!

>>28481760
Bullshit, that was a racist coded message and you know it. If you resort to your born-into physical appearance for ego validation then you lost the plot. Raising farm animals taught me a lot about violence and social order.

>>28481770
>coded
Literally r.eddit. If you want to feel that I was being racist, then go ahead, I permit it, as I'm sure it makes you feel righteous. My comment, however, is true - there were fewer cars at the time, and so streetcars were still viable. Its like how buses today are kind of forced on the population but only get used by those who are poor. People who can afford to own and operate cars, do so.

>>28481781
>If you want to feel that I was being racist
You wanna do this? Really?
>>28481687
>Was there perhaps something different about society back then that made it so that streetcars were viable?
I've written in edgy fury before, the "perhaps" really just hangs it all out there, idk dawg go be racist somewhere else I'm tired of car discussions having any mention of skin color wtf even is that?

>>28481786
>You wanna do this? Really?
Sure, why not. I don't really give a fuck about your shitty takes anyway. I'm just bored.
>I've written in edgy fury before, the "perhaps" really just hangs it all out there, idk dawg go be racist somewhere else I'm tired of car discussions having any mention of skin color wtf even is that?
I never mentioned skin colour, what the fuck is wrong with you? You are obsessed, and almost certainly terminally online. Touch grass, fuck.

>>28479010
Just move out of America?

>>28481795
I am terminally online, I take 2-10 injections a day to live man, chill. I'm tired of the old "oh those others" arguments. That's such a copout to look strong.

>>28481802
>I'm tired of the old "oh those others" arguments. That's such a copout to look strong.
Can you elaborate on this, sir? I don't think understand what you mean by this.

>>28481817
Moon Bears. It's where you point out an "ethnic" or us vs them argument in place of actually looking at the real thing. "Those zebra-striped people are the cause of all issues, hate them because we aren't smart enough to even understand the real issues at hand."

>>28481834
>Moon bears
I must be retarded because I have no idea what this means. In any case,
>hate them because we aren't smart enough to even understand the real issues at hand."
I've already stated my case, that there were fewer cars back then, and thus, less of a car culture. What is your angle here?

>>28481856
>I must be retarded because I have no idea what this means.
https://youtu.be/nCP3LZoxABs
It was a comedy skit reference. I'm on a lot of chems rn so my mind snipes old references and such.

>>28481863
>Whitest guys you know
Always funny.
>Press conference
The one that always comes to mind is this:
https://youtu.be/wKi3NwLFkX4?si=HVqAitvgaVMfwGgx

>>28480586
>picture shows light residential
That's a suburb. Most of San Diego is a suburb, it's pretty low density.

>>28481687
Residential areas were denser than suburbs today. It's essentially a few things that make any form of shared infrastructure not viable in most of the US:
- Urban sprawl has increased the distances between everything massively, and building infrastructure miles is expensive
- Zoning laws prohibit small businesses from opening up in residential areas, which could have helped reducing the distance to the nearest grocery shop

Technically, not even your residential suburban streets are viable, the low density makes municipal tax-dollar-income per mile of street too low to properly maintain them. In addition, you make your streets needlessly expensive by being like five or six cars wide - they're the same width as stretches of no-speed-limit German Autobahn.

>>28478483
People that take the bus or walk for a "protest" do more harm to the city than anyone driving a car.

>>28481958
>That's a suburb. Most of San Diego is a suburb, it's pretty low density.
Most murican cities are mostly suburbs. Mostly

it's okay OP, you can be honest here.

the question OP means to ask is:
>who is behind this astroturfed anti-car campaign online?

and the answer, as usual, is totalitarians and their shitlib commie stooges

I live in euro walkable city that had passable public transport which I had to use during college years, and the day I stopped using it was one of the best days of my life, even tho I wasn't aware of this moment at that time. Fuck buses and trolleys.

>>28482074
Nooooooooo you have to take a bike everywhere and love it and shill for it online constantly!!!!!!!

>>28482035
>is totalitarians and their shitlib commie stooges
That's not what they're called, silly.

>>28478468 (OP)
Go to Korea.
You don't need a car.
But the roads are there, and are good. You can drive everywhere if you want. Or not. it's your choice.

But in the west, building bikepaths, walking paths, bus lanes etc always comes with restricting traffic to force people to use non car transport.

internet made it obvious that US cities are incredibly awful to be in (whether in car or on foot) and mutts are envious
quite easy to understand

>>28478468 (OP)
Its one part of the global climate change propaganda where private cars, fuels(including the non-car related fuels) are bad thing etc. Same anti-car discussions has been in europoops countries many years before America. Europoops are trying to force same things into Americans and some of anti-car youtuber's who make videos about America, are not even native American youtuber's themselves.

In my opinion nocar cities should be nuclear bombed away.

>>28478549
It's unironically because of the millions of browns that have swarmed into the country

>>28478611
>Not banks

>>28481687
Streetcars were the ONLY transportation option other than a horse, which is far more burdensome than a car

>>28479903
>No one wants to take cars away
Every single action towards this movement has been to try and do this, rather than actually make cities better

>>28481797
The vast majority of Europe is like that too

>>28481786
The guy is right, it's clear he was referring to the turn of the century where railway was pretty much the end all be all.
But I guess you prefer racism over facts.

i cannot imagine anything more MIGA than suburb worship

>>28483339
cities are where the lgbtqiausgpmt+ community resides THOUGH

>>28483339
What does MIGA have to do with wanting your own house without commuting 3 hours? Do we just associate things we don't like with bad things?

>>28478468 (OP)
They are redditors and they unironically belong to a cult.

>>28483385
Massive government interventionism disguised as the laissez faire solution, consumerism disguised as individual empowerment, modernism disguised as conservatism.

>>28483436
mucho texto

i want to have a single family house, backyard, and garage but not live somewhere my commute is now 3 hours and it takes me at least 90 mins drive to have more dining than gas stations and mcdonalds.

suburbs work for me

>>28479005
>my car:
>best music
>as hot or as cold as I want
>best seats, and, man, are they comfy
>only the people I want are around
>best view you can drive to while the food is still hot

>your "restaurant":
>has a restroom

Literally the only thing that's better. So again, why would I want to sit there?

>>28483446
suburbs aren’t mutually exclusive with high density cities, the problem has always been deliberately modeling cities after suburban infrastructure, and thus you get disgusting monstrosities like LA or the Florida megalopolis.

>>28481958
>they're the same width as stretches of no-speed-limit German Autobahn.
I don't get this analogy. The Autobahn is rather narrow, like two or three lanes in each direction on average.

>>28483461
i already live in nyc

our suburbs aren't that bad and don't deserve the hatred the transalt yimby urbanists people give them when the property taxes for them run $10-20k a year on average for a $500-700k single family home (and the area is pretty developed anyways with commuter rail/bus into the city). if i wanted to live in a rural area it would be a 2-3 hour commute one way.

and honestly even the sprawled out cities that they like to point out still have less congestion + lower RE costs than NYC

>>28483339
the ENTIRE thread has been talking about how it's a fine idea being coopted to take rights away, you moronic kike.

>>28478468 (OP)
Cars have been getting more expensive to buy and "own" (if you can call renting your heatable seats ownership) while also getting worse.
Jobs are more concentrated in city centers than before.
Housing is expensive and suburbs are now either extremely overpriced or have been ghettoified.
Put all of this together and you should be able to understand why plenty of people are annoyed that a lot of city centers have been rebuilt to accomodate cars first which means that now the primary factor in road layouts exists to the benefits of a shrinking minority of people.
And let's be honest, (you) hate driving downtown too and don't pretend otherwise. No one, not a single soul on Earth aside from a taxi driver charging by the minute, likes to drive in congested city centers.

>>28478468 (OP)
People want better quality of life.

>>28478468 (OP)
The average car in the US is bigger and more expensive than it was 10-20 years ago to meet emission and safety standards. The average driver has gotten considerably worse so you have to be constantly vigilant to avoid getting hit by someone looking at their cellphone, a pothead, or some illegal
That being said. Walkable cities are nice on paper, but because of current demographics it's not appealing to a lot of people

>>28478468 (OP)
Because it's hip to be dependant on government and then complain when they don't do what's in your best interest. People are fucking idiots, there's nothing more to really say.

>>28484618
>be german who married his american wife
>lived in rural Germany
>wife lives in DC
>first thing I did was convince her to move out of DC and at least to NoVA

Holy shit I hate DC so much. It IS a walkable city and the Metro is decent, but FUCK busses. Niggers, Spics and the assorted drugged up trash littering the busses is awful. The biggest issue with any public transport are the deadzones that see a bus like once an hour and only until 8pm and have little to NO metro connection. It is as you say - walkable cities would be nice if everyone got their shit together and behaved like humans, but because of pot-smoking niggers, drunk spics and rapist Jeets, we can't have shit.

>>28484504
You do realize the people pushing for walkable cities are ALSO the same exact people that say owning cars is deadly for the planet, right? Is this supposed to be a coincidence?

>>28484536
Being relegated to a city center that I can only walk around in sounds like hell on Earth. You fuckin faggots are so unselfaware you don't even realize there are millions of people that hate YOU and want to be as far away as possible

>>28485347
it won't be that bad anon

>>28485360
That is unironically better than the OP especially if it comes with a backyard and garage. Especially if you have kids

>>28485360
These stupid overview photos about suburbs are misleading. Suburbs are much more beautiful on actual street view.

/n/, /pol/ anticar retards should be genocided.

>>28478468 (OP)
Communist infiltration. From this, to electric cars, it's all about limiting freedom of movement.

>>28478536
/thread

>>28479323
Anon, I get your point but that is also retarded. I hate the whole 15 minute city idea but it's still smart to be mindful of this stuff.
Don't add not locking your doors to your muscle memory. All it takes is one time your in a large town.

>>28485360
hellish

>>28483225
This. And people quickly abandoned streetcars once cars became affordable and attainable enough for most Americans. Streetcars were loud, slow, and rode like crap. People can say it was a conspiracy by automakers to dismantle streetcars which I’m sure has some element of truth to it, but in reality it was simply people’s preference for cars that ultimately did-in these systems. The US was victim of their own post WWII success and high standards of living in a way, as millions of people could buy cars which coincided with our biggest period of growth leading to car centric design which was seen as forward thinking *for its time*.
I don’t know what the solutions are. Even building new light rail lines can cost a city billions of dollars that they don’t have. For the US and Canada I can see more use of Bus Rapid Transit lanes over trains to split the difference. Might as well use the road infrastructure already in place to its fullest extent.

Been 3 times to US over the last year. (European)
Twice in Houston and once in NYC.
I liked people in Houston more but the city was pure utter nightmare to navigate. Literally no sidewalks, impossible to get to anywhere without driving.
I wanted to go some mall that was like 1 KM from me and it took me like 30 minutes.
For this reason I liked NYC far more as a City.

Getting around city should not require you to drive.

>>28478495
having +800 cars for 1000 people so that people can live in cookie clutter suburbs and commute 30 miles to work on taxpayer funded highways is wasteful

>>28478761
yeah so youre lazy and selfish

>>28487090
>wasteful
90%of humans are a waste of oxygen and global resources.
There is zero reason taxpayers need to provide food for starving children on another continent that will never amount to anything.
Israel receives more money every year than federal infrastructure projects.

>>28487086
Why Houston? It's such a shit hole (as you found out)

>>28478518
this
notjustbikes is obvious bugman propaganda

>>28487086
in america we despise our cities more than you will ever know
america isn't a good place to visit imo

>>28478468 (OP)
i used to be more interested in urbanism until faggots got involved and started spamming it. everyone who has an opinion in favor of it won't shut the fuck up about it. I want better bus systems and fewer parking lots downtown but that's about it.

>>28487212
it's a shame that they're such faggots. I agree with like 40% of what they talk about, and I own 3 cars in a walkable neighborhood.

>>28487067
You can't fix public transportation until you fix the junkie/"teen"/migrant problem. Anything you do to make public transportation more desirable to the public just makes it more and more desirable for the undesirables.
Captcha jnk0p
It is truly a junk op.

>>28478468 (OP)
Psyop
Easier to kill off massive populations in close proximity when everyone uses public transport/isn't in their own protective automotive bubble. When they create the next covid you'll see
Screenshot this

>>28485360
The only two diagonally-oriented houses are bothering my autism

>>28478468 (OP)
What kind of retard has to drive to use a treadmill at a gym? An American.
Boomers are dying and people are realizing it makes no sense having to drive 15 minutes to get milk or drive 2h one way to sit in front of the computer and bow to your goldenstein overlords

>b-but it was always like this!
no it fucking wasn't this is recent and it all boils down to boomers being completely fucking retards

keep in mind its worth remembering that not everyone likes cars, or even driving. We in this board are a minority in society.
Plus having less people driving is good for people that likes driving
>b-but my road taxes! it's about to go up because of electric vehicles, bikes and bus riders
if you really like cars and driving around, this seems like not an issue at all then

It's the end of the yes-man generation and it's a good thing.

>>28485347
lmao, you are so narrow minded
>relegated to a city center
nobody is saying that