Ok /o/ I'm looking at getting a new fun/"enthusiast" daily around 40k USD. Right now I have a GR86 which is great, but would like to get something more practical/refined.

I'd prefer lighter (no american), RWD/AWD, and manual. So far I have these on the list:

>F87 M2 (OG)
Seems like a good fit on paper, haven't had a chance to find a manual to test drive. Lower mileage nice ones do get into the mid 40s.

>Golf R MK 7.5
Definitely a nice interior and comfy as a daily, not really engaging drive, but still fun. Stupid reliable, especially for a VW. Seems like the practical choice. MK8 would be nice, but too expensive and dumb infotainment

>GR Corolla
Doesn't really feel like a step up in the refined department, but I'm trying one out tomorrow. Hopefully it impresses, they do seem fun, but I can't see it being the better choice for me over a Golf R.

>FK8 Type R
I want to test one out just to cross it off, these look like shit and FWD. Interior does seem nice though.

>VA STI
Same boat as the Corolla

>P car
I don't know enough, but I assume anything under 40 will not be a good DD, and I don't think dailying a 20 yo porsche is a great choice.

Is there anything else I'm missing anons? Am I retard?

I'm mostly leaning towards waiting for a nice M2 to pop up.

>>28481397 (OP)
Shit bait
E9, E24 635CSi, E30 325i, E31 850i, E39 530i, LCI E90 M3 Competition or N54 335i, F10 M5 Competition, W124, W126, R129, W140, W201, C5 Z06, C6 Z06
Those are the best cars you'll get in their respective classes for $40k
Already
Godsdamn
Kek cry pussy

You're a retard for even bothering posting here. There's a tumor going around, you'll see soon enough.
Anyway, don't buy a VW, they just fall apart.

>>28481409
Old and shit.

>>28481411
See?

>>28481412
And yet they're all better than every single car listed in OP

>>28481411
>>28481413
>You're a retard for even bothering posting here. There's a tumor going around, you'll see soon enough.
Yep, that was fast

>Anyway, don't buy a VW, they just fall apart.
My previous DD was a MK7 GTI and I enjoyed it for what it was, didn't have any issues, but I rotate through cars after just a couple years.

>>28481413
>nooo you have to recommend ugly slow gay cars on /o/!!!
What's with the incessant need for everything to be as shit as possible and to shun actual good things on this website? Is this a contrarian thing? Just take a look at /ck/ to understand what I mean

>>28481416
>I rotate through cars after just a couple year
You've either either just had ugly slow gay cars or you just don't like cars. Probably both bmaooo

>>28481397 (OP)
Focus RS?

>>28481431
Right, forgot about that. I should try it. A little turned off by FORD quality, but I'm open to it.

>>28481431
>fag-wheel drive
>too slow
>shit interior

>>28481397 (OP)
>but would like to get something more practical/refined.
>for $40k
>lists a bunch of economy cars and a random porsche
bmaooo

The m2 is by far the best choice

What about a Jaaaag?

>>28481443
>gay eps
>"2" series
It's a fuckin' narb

>>28481443
Yeah, it very much seems so. I mostly just want to make sure I've tried everything out in the bracket to be certain while I'm waiting for the right M2.

>>28481397 (OP)
If you're autistic and refuse to buy American, then the M2 is the best choice.

>>28481397 (OP)
all of those are npc econoboxes with factory rice
except one

>>28481447
compare it to everything else

>>28481433
They drive nice but they're not reliable

Throw in the Camaro SS 1LE if you can stand its looks. /o/ retard shilling and shitposting aside its a good car as to how it drives, but I hate how it looks and GM 8cyls are a crapshoot in 2025, nothing like 20 years ago (either it'll last 100k+ miles of abuse or blow up 3x in that time period). It drives like a E46 M3 with more grip or a GR86 with +200hp whichever you prefer and its within spitting distance of a M2 in lbs.

$40k can also get you a base S650 Mustang GT but I heard they need help in the dynamics dept.

I'd go

>ND3 Miata and $10k Fiesta ST -> F87 M2 -> GRC (can be had new for $40k out the door) -> SS 1LE

>>28482717
Ok compared them
It's a fuckin narb bmaooo

>>28482720
All of those cars are gay and/or ghetto as shit bmaooo

>>28482720
You'd think Chevy could build reliable V8's, you know, the same things they've been building since the mid 50's. The fuck happened?

>>28482734
Same problems with Ford and Dodge engines cylinder deactivation and using shit like sintered metal or plasticlip valve phase limiters.
There's an easy fix to that you're gonna end up doing anyway which is rebuild the top end and get rid of all of that shit and use lifter tie bars so it doesn't turn into a grenade when you get curious how high in the band you can shift it.

>>28482741
Kek how fuckin ghetto
Captcha Y0 8 NGR
Kek

>>28482741
well now the gm v8s spin bearings and iirc the lt1 is a pretty maxed out engine (ie blows the fuck up with any forced induction, heads/cam isn't nearly as productive)

gt350s and mach 1 s550s are still retarded money too

>>28482748
You know what's REALLY ghetto? Driving eurotrash that gets mogged by some nigger blasting by you in a 20k scatpack with 3 broken exhaust studs while shaking he dreads out the window menacingly

F22 M240i LCI with the M Performance LSD and KW V3 coilovers and a remap.

>>28482753
Ignore, report.

>>28482753
>ebonics
What the fuck is a "mogged?"
And LOL scatpacks are SLOW as FUCK I'd literally just flyby him with the 666+ (more like 777+) pony TWIN TURBO V8 and APEXBUILT catless downpipes with fuckin METAL blasting and wave my fuckin SMITH & WESSON out the fuckin window and literally call him a fucking nigger to his face bmaooo

BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
Hear me cummin' through the radio
Watch me go zoom, zoom, ZOOM
Try to catch me, but you're too slow
Too slow, too slow *GASP*

>>28482758
>nooo don't call ghetto cars ghetto!!!

>>28482749
I wouldn't say they're maxed out but it's not like the old days where you could go 5 grand worth of work and make 900 whp with junkyard parts and some light machine work.
All of these newer engines are built way too tight in tolerance which is why a lot of old heads buy used high mile engines for a starting point. Already heat stress relieved and less shit they have to open tolerances up on. Built loose to go fast is not a meme even though it is.
>>28482760
I remember being carless anon, it's okay.

>>28482757
>gay eps
>N54 > n55
Just get an E92 335i already godsDAMN

>>28482765
>I remember being carless
You still don't even have a car so it must be easy to remember bmaooo

>>28482767
it’s a B58 powered god machine

fk8's are great. for a little bit more you CAN find an FL5 for MSRP somewhere. I think they look worse than FK8's though but most people think the opposite.
The M2 is probably the most refined inside and out...just BMW bullshit you're going to have to deal with. It's going to break and be expensive for every little thing.
I hear good things about the golf r but haven't driven one.

>>28482772
>gay eps
>"2" series
It's a fuckin' narb

>>28482770
You're right I drive a wagon

OP is such a ricer faggot holy shit, it really takes a metric load of cocksucking to make the BMW thumbnail guy seem reasonable but here we are.

>>28482776
kek wagons are gay as fuck godsdamn

>>28481424
this website is infested by redditors that like it up the ass like OP

>>28482765
I don't even think its a matter of tolerances. Just the cars have very little in terms of efficiency left you can extract without seriously compromising reliability, especially if they're N/A. Its like a N/A Honda Engine like a F20C or similar that won't make crazy power with bolt ons until you step up to cams and even then. IE GM already did everything they could to get the most horsepower out of the car without it killing itself or not passing emissions at all

Tight tolerances = good for horsepower usually.

>>28482773
Honestly I've seen Integra Type Ss for $40k and its a hell of a car for that amount. I think they depreciated worse than the FL5s. Definitely worth considering if you want a only car, they're really nice inside and spacious

>>28482776
Why is this so fucking hard with you retards; report and ignore the school dropout junkie.

>>28482785
integra:
>fag-wheel drive
>slow as fuck
>ugly pikachu bullshit
What is with these fucking recommendations

>>28482789
Report for what? How am I a junkie lol
school is for fucking NERDS
No wonder you riced out a fucking civic bmaooo

>>28482779
It weighs less and makes way more power than anything else in this thread now seethe
>>28482785
Tight tolerance in normal engines is to extract as much power out of stock castings. When you want to make BIG power and be reliable you don't want binding to any degree.
That's why there's so many Mexicans running sloppy ass 1500 hp LQ4 Silverados and waxing hyper cars down in Texas

>>28482800
LOL no it doesn't now sneed

>>28482800
>waxing hyper cars down in Texas
The mexicans get paid to do that

>>28482775
The M2 is the real new old M3

>>28482776

>>28482813
Kek not even close. That's why BMW uses the M4 for racing. The 2 series is their economy car for women bmaooo

>>28482818
you realize there’s a dedicated M240i racing division, right?
because it’s just that kino and unique.
there’s nothing next to it.
it’s the last of its kind.
the pinnacle of automotive technology.
and the best part: YOU can be part of it, if you are quick. because demand is high and pristine B58 powered M240i‘s are becoming rare

>>28482859
People race faggy miatas that doesn't make them not slow and gay as fuck and touchscreens + gay eps are dealbreakers

>>28481397 (OP)
M4 is vastly superior to an M2, please skip the M2 meme. It’s a cheap rattle box with zero advantage over an m4

>its smaller

It weighs the same .

>>28481397 (OP)
>>F87 M2 (OG)
It's that the car in the pic.
It's so fucking ugly it's unreal.

>>28482796
>How am I a junkie
All you do is smoke weed and shit post lmao, faggot ass gardening tranny, bitch you have never and never will do a single pull so stay the FUCK out of the fast lane

>28482974
You're a faggot and you don't even have a car

>>28483104
Chat is this true?

>>28481397 (OP)
Consider also a G42 M240i if you want something more refined ala an actual smooth raily ride. F87 if ur still young and can handle the rougher ride.

>>28482882
I should at least try an M4, you're right. It's just so fucking long compared to what I like.

>>28483482
>G42 M240i
No manual :(

>>28483515
Why do you only like little economy cars?

G42 is a fucking soft commuter yacht

Test drove the GR Corolla today, honestly....kinda disappointed. By no means a bad car, but incredibly overrated and shilled by jurnos, go figure. Feels expensive for what it is.

Checking out an M2 this weekend next.

>>28484163
you need to drive it at the limit.

>>28484163

As an M4 owner: The M2 should be great, though I'm not sure about the N55 engine (vs S55). Also just keep the steering in comfort mode or it'll be heavy as fuck.

the og M2 has a horrible interior.
go for the M2 Competition and get the true UDM experience incl. the S55

>>28484438
Thus is not very fun is it?

>>28481397 (OP)
https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WBA73BJ03NWX67665
2022 BMW 5 Series 540i xDrive
This, OP.

>>28483116
Keep in mind there are a lot of poor third-worlders who copepost but don't own cars.
They aren't here to talk about driving, auto performance, or anything related to cars.
Instead, you get
>X BRAND IS FOR BROWNER PEOPLE THAN ME!
Ironically posted by people who aren't (and never will be) white.

>>28484461
The only thing I miss about my f87 interior is the max AC button

>>28481429
>>28481440
>>28482723
>>28482770
>>28482818
What in the FUCK is a "bmao" (tutpoot)

>>28484891
>manual bmw
fail. feels like a 30yo commuter diesel

>>28484438
Oh I ripped the shit out of it, but obviously couldn't go to preferred backroad or anything like that to push the dealers car. It's fun, very boosty, but you definitely feel how compromised the car is. Even the fiance could tell it was more Corolla than GR. Golf R as a daily does the split personality infinitely better. Track or canyon car? Maybe not.

>>28484454
>>28484461
I haven't entirely crossed out the Comp, but they are (obviously) more pricey, and I'm not sure I want to jump from 220hp to 400, so I've been shying away from them a bit. The seats do seem much better though.

>>28485164
im surprised you prefer the Golf R over the GR Corolla. We don’t have the GR Corolla in Europe but I tried it in my sim and it feels way more direct than the Golf 8 R I’ve driven irl. The Golf feels so artificial and synthetic

>>28485164
>and I'm not sure I want to jump from 220hp to 400
What kind of pussy shit is this.

>>28485238
The Rolla is definitely more engaging and more fun, but the compromise with the livability between it and the Golf R is huge. Honestly, I think it was just too high expectations after constantly hearing about how great it was. I would keep my GR86 over getting the GRC.

>>28481397 (OP)

WRX

Why don’t you just buy a Mustang you absolute faggot?

>>28481397 (OP)
You might be able to find an f-type or vantage for that price range, although I can't speak to reliability or any other daily costs.

I was in a similar boat but splurged for a superfat LC.

>>28481397 (OP)
>>28481409
All these disposable, plastic, turkroach leasebait shitboxes get utterly and I mean UTTERLY raped by Porsche. Remember that brown son.

How about cupra formentor?
310hp, awd, slightly raised golf r basically
You can get it with 2.5l 5 cylinder even

>>28489171
(you) utterly and I mean UTTERLY raped by BMW. Remember that brown son.

>>28489171

>>28489349
>>28489353
what the brown dog yappin about

>>28489456
We're functioning automatic
And we are dancing mechanic

[Chorus]
We are the robots
We are the robots
We are the robots
We are the robots

>>28489353
you know you can just filter him, right?

add these to your 4chanx filters in the comment section
/raped by porsche/i:boards:o
/rbp/i:boards:o

>>28481397 (OP)
Elantra N and it's not even close

>>28489124
I would love a vantage, but that sounds like a terrible idea for a daily

>>28489279
I'm in the US frend

>>28489545
Found an FK8 nearby, testing this week. They also have an Elantra N, guess I'll try it since I'm there

>>28481397 (OP)
>new fun/"enthusiast" daily around 40k USD
>I'd prefer lighter (no american), RWD/AWD, and manual.
THE GOAT of $40k cars is pic related
Most are just a stock mustang drivetrain with all the faggotry of modern "muscle cars" omitted

Literally one of the greatest vehicles ever built

>>28484888
Fuck that is cheap