The combo of price point, reliability, comfort, and feature variety seems unmatched.

>>28481806 (OP)
3rd gen town car

>>28481806 (OP)
Nice Camry!

har, har!

for me its a used genesis g80 sedan
or hell if ur poor get a kia cadenza used or a k900

>>28481806 (OP)
Ehhh sedans suck. You can't sleep or fuck in them. Most like this example also run those stupid rubber band tires. For me it would be a GMT800 Suburban. It's smooth, quiet, it has 90% of the luxury features a modern car has, you can crawl into the back and take a super comfy nap, etc.

I actually prefer the GS of that era. Same powertrain, same materials, same build quality, but not weighed down with useless rear passenger gubbins. Much much harder to find good examples today though.

>>28481840
You can just fold the back seats down to fuck/sleep inside of a sedan THOUGH

>>28481806 (OP)
Just get an S-Class already godsdamn

>>28481840
>or fuck in them
get a wagon
sedan has way better handling than suv/truck
suburban is literally a truck the interior is crap, the engine is pushrod

>>28481845
E39 is better

>>28481851
e39 drove kinda soulless, technically perfect handling but no flavor, no spice, no zest, also stiff as ride no thank u
u buy full size sedan for maximum CUSH you cannot get with a sport sedan or truck

I want to go SLOW and be comfortable when I drive!

>>28481851
There's no E39. There's an ES. ES300, ES350. They're not as good though.

>>28481859
e39 is a bmw model code for their midsize sedan the 5 series

>>28481846
A lot of sedans don't have seats that can fold down. The parcel shelf also makes it so you have to fit yourself through a tiny slit (not the good kind). This is also why they can't fit cargo worth a damn. Just a terrible vehicle configuration.

>>28481850
I had a wagon. Sure it handled but a SUV is far more comfy and practical.

>suburban is literally a truck
Okay??? So it's overbuilt and will last forever? Gee that sounds terrible!

>the interior is crap
Yeah it's not great but I can poke it and it doesn't snap, crackle and pop like a bowl of fucking Rice Krispies like a modern German or Jap car. You're also not sitting in a sea of fake wood grain or PGP and RGB LED's.

> the engine is pushrod
Oh No! It'll last 500k miles with no maintenance with a healthy diet of abuse! I can throw a china turbo on it and make 700+ HP. Man that sounds terrible!

>>28481855
fun um but the E39 is the best sports sedan overall that there is
And LOL @ it being too stiff you have no clue what you're talking about
Just get an S-Class already godsdamn

>>28481859
There is no gs
There's an E9, E24, E30, E31, E39, E92, F10, W124, W126, R129, W140, and a W201, and they're all better than any goyota

>>28481865
my dad had a 540 I drove it through twisties in wv at 95 mph and tested the fuel cutoff for 145
the engines was fast, but it had no soul, and yes, the ride was stiff
>Just get an S-Class already godsdamn
if they made nice interiors I would
I'm a Kia man.

>>28481864
wagon is more comfy than suv, suv is slightly more practical (esp if you do dirt roads a lot)

>>28481864
All my sedans can fold down the back seats and any sedan that can't is a deal breaker bmaooo

>>28481868
E39 540is aren't as good as E39 530is
1. Steering rack > steering box
2. STRAIGHT 6 E39s feel massless on a backroad, whereas the V8 ones don't
And LOL @ it being stiff E39s are soft as fuck what are you even saying
And LOL @ it having "no soul" just because you say something doesn't make it the case
>I'm a Kia man
LOL ok this is just a troll thread what a fag

>>28481874
>whereas the V8 ones don't
I don't remember it feeling heavy at all ever, that wasn't the issue
kia is comfort
bmw is ouch stiff ride pain

>>28481878
For sure

>>28481806 (OP)
>Best value used luxury car OAT?

Its definitely the Lincoln Town Car.

The Lexus is a great car; but you can't get a good one anywhere near as cheap as you can a Town Car and if you're getting a LS430 you're getting a car that was discontinued 8 years before the last Town Car and which had a much smaller production run so its parts are rarer and more expensive.

>>28481918
W140 is better

>>28481892
I never tested a 530 but a 528 was slow as a dog. I liked the 740 way more than 540 but I got overruled.

>>28481918
dont do it its a total shitbox!
>solid rear axle
lol

>>28481806 (OP)
>pricepoint
These are so overpriced in my area that it's not even worth considering as an option. Great cars but these are getting up there in age and you can get a lot more car for less. The only Lexus I would consider in today's money would be the gs with the 1uz or the is350, both of which are also overpriced but within reason.

Like >>28481839 said, I think the g80 specifically the v8s are the best luxury car for the money. Unlike the other engines Hyundai made in the 2010, the naturally aspirated v8 is reliable and the they packed every feature into the interiors of these cars. If you don't want changshit my runner up would be a w204 with a NA v6. They made a million of these and the few issues they have are non catastrophic. You also can work on them reasily compared to the retard shit you would have to do for an audi or bmw (mostly audi).

>>28481806 (OP)
20 year old S class with 300,000 miles on it

>>28481840
God damn sleeping and fucking in the back of a Suburban. Brings back good memories

>>28481840
I've never had sex before and probably won't ever. This is a non factor

>>28481808
>3rd gen town car

This.

The Lexus LS400 and LS430 WERE the best values back in the mid 2010s. The cars were relative unknowns and you could find LS400s/430s in the 100k mile range for sub-$5k very very easily. Sometimes you could get them under $3k from old people for well-running and well-maintained examples. That's why they were a good value.

Today it's pretty hard to find an LS400/430 with less than 150k miles for under $5,000. It's not impossible, but you have to hunt, have alerts set up, and be prepared to buy the same day or day after somebody lists one at that price. Most of the time one of those cars with that kind of mileage will be closer to $10k if not even higher.

For that reason, I have to say they are not a good value. They aren't bad cars, and if you have that kind of budget, great, but don't pretend they are a truly good value like a Lincoln Town Car